What is your thoughts regarding Islam?

[Anonymous]

Why Islam and not other religions?

1- Islam gives logical and simple idea for God - He is a perfect God - He is neither a man nor a son of man nor an Idol or a Godhead (trinity) nor limited nor created - He is totally uncomparable, unique and to Himbelongs all the good qualities, names, attributes and oneness.

2-Islam accepts all Messengers and Prophets of God.
In Islam, we love all the Prophets of God and we can't deny any of them - while in other religions such as Judaism for example - they reject Jesus and Mohammed -- and in Christianity they reject Muhammad... but in Islam, we accept all Prohets without discrimination.

3-In Islam, there is no mediator between you and God -- you can pray to God directly - there is no need for someone in between.

4- Islam is the Only religion that is Not named after a person or a tribe or a group, its name means submission to the One True God, if anyone anywhere at any time lived the life of submission to the true God alone , then heis a Muslim.

5- In Islam (worship) is not about mere rituals. it's a comprehensive term that includes any deed that pleases God. All good deeds are types of worship : smiling, being sincere at work, saying a nice word, and even treating one's spouse gently, all this is greatly rewarded by God. On the other hand, any deed that doesn't please God is a sin;talking bad about people is a sin, cheating, lying, hurting innocent people, harming the environment, etc.

6-In Islam, God is always Forgiving - if you always repent (before death ) He will just accept you no matter how great sins you did. He forgives us out of His own grace - there is no price to be paid in order for Him to forgive. So, it's not like Christianity which says that God can't forgive except by blood of Jesus.

7-Islam is a way of life – it organises each aspect in your life. It has solutions and divine guidelines to problems in your life.

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9-Islam prohibits blind following without knowledge and it invites us to use our brains to know truth, it is based on evidence and logic. The rational mind is the basis for religious accountability and responsibility. The Holy Qur'an is 6236 ayahs , verses, 1046 of which invite us to respect the mind , to think , mediate and contemplate, using the power of the intellect. Allah the Almighty asks us to give proof for anything.

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10-the moral system of Islam is very high and perfect and thus the countries that apply Islamic laws in a proper way have less moral crimes.

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11- Paradise in Islam is a real physical life for both Body and soul, you will go there , eating drinking marrying and meeting with prophets and having wonderful eternal life and free from doing work or worship;unlike in other religions which they think it is only spiritual life.

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8-The amazing sources of Islam were also collected and saved. They are intact, never distorted.

[BCRanger10]

I don't believe in Islam.

Let's take your points one by one.

1 - Christianity teaches that God the Son (Jesus Christ) became man (see John 1.1-14). Without ceasing to be God, He became what He had not been before: a man. I did not cease being a man when I got married. Rather, I became something that I was not before: a husband. Your first point fails on that score alone.

2 - Christianity does not believe Jesus to be a mere prophet. Christianity teaches the Jesus is consubstantial with God the Father, or of the same substance (philosophically speaking). "Substance" means that if a thing is, the essence of the thing must exist. For example, if I am to exist as a man, the concept and essence of "man" - what a man is - must exist. Therefore, according to Christianity, God the Father (God) and God the Son (Jesus Christ) are of the same substance. And as I said above, Jesus became man without ceasing to be God. With all that said, Jesus is not just a prophet. He could not have been.

Additionally, if Islam accepts "all prophets without discrimination", that doesn't lend itself well to the so-called "truths" (using that term incredibly loosely) that Islam claims.

3 - Do you know who else does not require a mediator to pray to God? Christians. I can and do pray to God on my own; I pray the Rosary every day and the Angelus three times per day, none of which require a priest. It's the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass that requires a priest, a man who has been specially trained, formed, and consecrated for this. If what you say is true, then why even bother with imams?

4 - I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God and that He died for our sins and rose again from the dead. I also acknowledge God as "Father", which is scandalous to Muslims. Therefore, even though I live my life in obedience to God's will and commands, I AM NOT a Muslim. End of story.

5 - Islam is just copying Christianity's homework here. Jesus already says in Matthew 25.31-46 that those who minister to the needs of others ultimately minister to Christ Himself. This is... what, seven or eight hundred years before Islam began? The material distinction between Islam and Christianity on what you say here is practically non-existent. The Catholic Church teaches the same things about, say, slander and treating a man's good name with dignity and respect. Islam is not unique here.

6 - The problem here is God is, in this view, a vague and foreign concept. Christianity believes that the coming of Christ to take on our flesh and to brutally suffer and die for us that this is a much greater demonstration of God's love for us, that He would subject Himself to this kind of treatment. The understanding of God that you detail here is, I would say, blasphemous.

7 - Again, nothing unique about Islam here.

WHERE IS #8?

9 - Once again, nothing unique about Islam. The Catholic Church has a very lengthy and rich philosophical tradition. Saint Thomas Aquinas is often regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of all time.

10 - Your point is?

So to sum up, I am not now nor will I ever be a Muslim.

[Cheapskate]

What I find silly about Christianity is that turning the other cheek is not an effective evolutionary strategy, most of the time. Most of the time, eye for an eye is more effective.

If you don't retaliate [proportionally!] to aggression, a lot of the time, you're just gonna lose. Which I suppose explains Christianity's many saints.

[strateguy632]

@Cheapskate still consider jesus often spoke in parables symbolicly.
about eye for eye, imagine a society that did that... TWO people lost their eye... again that was just symbolic that...
a punishment must be proportionate to a crime not whip with lashes someone who ate pork! nor less than the severity of a severe crime.

[jshm2]

I don't believe you or your assertions.

Many branches of Christianity don't teach the "trinity" and Eastern Christian sects don't teach Jesus being "son" at all. Hence your assertion is false that "Christianity teaches". What you mean to say is "my sect teaches". Each sect also has it's own bible and interpretation of it. Your point fails as you forget that trinity is not in the gospels and Jesus was not the only "son" in the bible - it was a term of endearment. Also , the unknown author of John clearly did not read his own work as he later states “And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form. "John 5:37 Meaning Jesus was not "divine" and nothing but a man.

You also fail to understand it's actually "Paulanity" not "Christianity" as it's the only cult not founded by a prophet who followed the religion. Jesus, his half brothers, and his mother and father were not "Christians". None existed until at least 50 years after him. So you've got to cease throwing stones about Islam when your own glass house is in pieces.

[jshm2]

Furthermore, Islam does not have a clergy or priesthood, your assertion on Christians "praying" is laughable as depending on your Christian sect, you have nothing if the "leader of the flock" does not. An "imam" is just the bloke who runs the mosque affairs. You're confusing them with "alim" which are the scholars who interpret and assist in matters of faith.

You don't believe in Jesus Christ, end of story. You only believe in an interpretation of a possible messiah, who likely didn't exist, as the founder of Christianity never saw him either. In your head, Jesus is White, English speaking but an American looking bloke.

So you could never be a Jew, Muslim or Christian, as you are too far gone in your ignorance and stupidity of faith, to come back to the faith. As the bible says of you "... seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matthew 13:13)

Also, the sign of a true Jesus believer is in Mark 16 15-18 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

So unless you can provide a list of cast out demons, and poisons you've drank, you're nothing but a pretend Christian like everyone else...

[BCRanger10]

@jshm2 you have a lot of complaints here. Which one would you like to address first?

[BCRanger10]

@jshm2 and don't say "all of them." Please pick one specifically to begin with.

[Asker]

12- You won't lose Jesus if you accept Islam, but you will just correct your belief in him. In Islam, Jesus, peace be upon him, stands for a good position in Islam. He is one of greatest 5 Messengers of God (Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammed), peace be upon them all). Together with other messengers, they were all special and they were all humans like us. None of them is to be be worshiped ;we only worship God Who sent them. We believe that Jesus was a noble Messenger of God but not divine;we love Jesus and obey his true teachings

[Asker]

Why Islam and not other religions?

8-The amazing sources of Islam were also collected and saved. They are intact, never distorted. This never happened to any book in history. These sources, the Holy Qur'an - the Speech of God, and the Sunnah - the Prophet's tradition - are conveyed through the uncut chain of known narrators who registered all prophet's tradition from His time up to now... besides the millions who memoriseit from cover to cover since that time up till today - Not to forget being documented in front of the Prophet, peace be upon him, by known companions.
The Holy Qur'an is the only book in the world which remained unchanged and intact for for more than fourteen centuries.

[BCRanger10]

Islam has the correct view of Jesus and follows His teachings?

[NamerOfStars]

Well, here's the thing: you fail on the first two points. You may "accept" prophets, but only in the sense that you don't kill them. I don't see you guys preaching the message of Guru Nanak. And your veneration of Joseph Smith is similarly lacking, especially in light of what HE had to say about Jesus. You heap praise on Jesus, but ignore everything He said. Well, everything theological; you're down with charity and forgiveness, which is cool, but you can either have "God in isolation" or you can have "Jesus"; the two are mutually exclusive.

So, no- you don't "accept" Jesus in any religious sense. And given that His whole message was about redefining the role of the individual in relation to God, and seeing the latter as a living entity, rather than a blind set of rules, you don't really accept Him in a moral one, either; something as simple as restoring dietary codes (Halal and Kosher aren't quite the same thing, but it's clearly the same basic idea) shows that.

And claims of moral superiority from a faith that avoids prostitution by 20-minute marriages to hookers, calls for mob lynchings of men suspected of homosexuality, and sexually mutilates newborn babies are pretty laughable on their own.

[HaveNoName]

A prophet is a prophet if he shows a miracle. You cannot be a self proclaimed prophet.

[HaveNoName]

... a miracle done my God's permission.

[HaveNoName]

... by

[jennifer_bloom]

I do not have a problem with Islam, but I do not appreciate rhetoric that vilifies non Muslim beliefs and practices. In the same way that it’s wrong to interfere in somebody’s relationship, it’s wrong to interfere in their religion and faith. But I also respect the right of Muslims to practice good beliefs without interference by atheists or other religions or different branches of Islam. I will not fight for them if there is a war but I will avoid robbing or opposing them. And they will get the same kindness I show all others.

[Agape93]

It's a religion who's practitioners are increasingly making it harder to find it tolerable, and it's teachings becoming increasingly clear just how tyrannical it truly is.

[sawno]

To me its one of many Abrahamic religions but for an Abrahamic religion I prefer Jesus as a prophet due to how peaceful and miraculous he was. The god I don't believe in though, I don't consider any god demanding sacrifices in his name to be a divine being. I would never ask for harm in my name, so by that logic I'd be better than a divine being if that God was one. I have no God complex so my only logical conclusion is that the prophets in the Bible didn't talk to a singular Devine being. If they talked to a being at all they likely encountered a mix of good and evil ones. Along with writing their own rules and interpretations, of course.

[strateguy632]

your opinion best MATCHES jeremiah chapter 7... see for yourself the real judaism. then same book jeremia 31 about a new covenant.

[strateguy632]

honest translations use italics for the added words.

[sawno]

@strateguy632 Reading the chapter you pointed me to that reads like an evil being. If you replace the word lord with Satan the entire text makes perfect sense to me. Goes completely against what I believe the good beings that guide to be like. The ones I believe in made it a point to never do something that harms free will and they go out of their way to ensure nobody worships.

[Cheapskate]

Religions:

... make claims without evidence
... celebrate those who believe without evidence, and castigate those who demand evidence
... empowers some people to control other people based on piousness (willingness to believe without evidence), or arbitrary characteristics (e. g. men control women, parents control children)
... drives wedges between people (sect A and sect B, believers and unbelievers), which can lead to entitlement, tribalism, bigotry, dehumanization, and violence

[Cheapskate]

*piety

[strateguy632]

but books ARE evidence how do you know ANYTHING about history that you didn't see! by books.
even if you ask people they might lie for various reasons.

[jshm2]

You're not the brightest, it seems.

Evidence alone means little to any claim. There would be no need for courts, judges or lawyers if it was just a binary matter of "evidence or none". That's not how the world works.

You're playing yourself as a victim or just a fool, as "belief" cannot be celebrated. Nor is it something that can be evidenced at the best of times. You've no evidence you will wake up tomorrow, for example, you only believe you will. So it's your asinine and insular mind that is being castigated.

Social, legal and civic structures rely on people being in control to varying degrees. You wouldn't like an illiterate to be in charge of the English department. But expect religion to accept anyone to run them instead, as you're ignorant of their hierarchies and knowledge.

Religions make laws and civilisations adapt them. You only need look at the US notes in your pocket and the constitution to see it's trust and belief in them acting under God that drove them.

It's people like you that which fall into entitlement, tribalism, bigotry, dehumanization, and violence, then try and hide behind religion or other masks.

[slatyb]

@strateguy632 Myths in books are not evidence. The Noachian flood and the Exodus never happened. Jonah want swallowed by a whale, the sun didn't stand still in the sky.

[slatyb]

Do you believe the Book of Mormon? If not, why not?

[DrPepper12]

The greatest story ever sold. It's a scam for control. That's all. great answer @cheapskate

[strateguy632]

1, "Islam gives logical and simple idea for God: He is a perfect God."

but every religion says the same: our god "is perfect and unique and mercy" so equally logical and simple.

2, then you describe using "not" like decribing pants, not a shirt, not a skirt, not sock um and not shoes. there you described it? "neither a man nor a son of man nor an Idol or a Godhead (trinity) nor limited nor created - He is totally uncomparable" seven "not"-s. but why not say god is spirit? well that is not unique to any religion.

"all the good qualities, names, attributes and oneness." if so not "simple" anymore.

more importantly the quran described ala as mercy so... we can know with certainty, the book contents aren't from that mercy source.

[Dargil]

Islam is incompatible with Western Civilization. For that reason, one way or another, there must be an impassable partition between the West and Islam. There would have to be some form of ideological reform within Islam so that it no longer considers the outside world to be the Province Of War. Until that time, the West will always be at war with Islam. My hope is that Islam will recognize its limitations. That means that until then Western Civilization will have to monitor any Islamic region for development of weapons of mass destruction and suitable delivery methods (specifically, Iran) and neutralize them when they become an identifiable threat.

I know Islamists and their sympathizers will dislike these assertions. They will never possess the capacity to conquer the West because they will have to be stopped.

[Smartman5]

Yes, Islam is a religion exactly as you described. But there will still be those who do not accept it. I am Muslim and I believe in Islam. Non-believers will understand in the afterlife what a wrong path they are on, but it will be too late. Yet Allah is most forgiving.

[Asker]

Why Islam and not other religions?

8-The amazing sources of Islam were also collected and saved. They are intact, never distorted. This never happened to any book in history. These sources, the Holy Qur'an - the Speech of God, and the Sunnah - the Prophet's tradition - are conveyed through the uncut chain of known narrators who registered all prophet's tradition from His time up to now... besides the millions who memoriseit from cover to cover since that time up till today - Not to forget being documented in front of the Prophet, peace be upon him, by known companions.
The Holy Qur'an is the only book in the world which remained unchanged and intact for for more than fourteen centuries.

[Asker]

12- You won't lose Jesus if you accept Islam, but you will just correct your belief in him. In Islam, Jesus, peace be upon him, stands for a good position in Islam. He is one of greatest 5 Messengers of God (Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammed), peace be upon them all). Together with other messengers, they were all special and they were all humans like us. None of them is to be be worshiped ;we only worship God Who sent them. We believe that Jesus was a noble Messenger of God but not divine;we love Jesus and obey his true teachings

[Asker]

I couldn't able to update without getting cut 8 and 12...
so I made below your reply

[Smartman5]

These articles are very true

[Asker]

if it correctly it's from Almighty, if there any wrong in writing it's from my part.

[Levin]

The problem with these religions is they are exoteric. They are socio-cultural systems and there is compulsion. So better a morally imperfect Western nation that has freedom, over a Islamic nation where people are only good because they'll have their hand chopped off if they aren't...

But I don't agree with a socially imposed religion. Religion should not be dogmatic or absolutist, and it should come from within.

[strateguy632]

compulsion? but quran 2, 256 specified no forcing, in pure islam. and even catholic stopped threats of inquisition. protestant don't force anybody!

[Levin]

Most Islamic countries seem to be theistic states rather than true secular ones. Islam gets wedded into politics, legal realms, social life and culture. Plus, of course there is the threat of violence, honour killings and 'shaming' to keep people in order. I've met quite a few violent Islamic people in real life, and I allegedly life in a secular country.

[AviatorTom]

Islam is a religion, and if someone wants to be part of a religion and its beliefs, that's fine with me. Just don't use religion as an excuse to harm others... no radicals please.

It's interesting that every religion can trace its origins back to a human, not a supreme being. What does that says about religions in general?

[crossdressingrihno]

If they aren’t part of my religion, I don’t care what religion they are part of.


As long as you don’t stray too far out of my code of ethics, I don’t care too much about what people believe with the exception, if we share the same religion though that’s mostly because my branch closed down like 6 years ago and I’ve been isolated ever since.

[DrPepper12]

Islam is a beautiful religion with a very rich, diverse and deep culture. It IS a way of life people outside the Dar-al-Islam really can't understand, only appreciate. The singularity of Allah and DIRECT prayer without intermediaries also make it beautiful. The offer of salvation is not unique, nor the hadiths, nor the rituals, nor the Hadiths, nor the idea of "karma" for lack of a better term but the very real and non-negotiable communitarian nature of it is commendable.

[Anonymous]

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[Opinion Owner]

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[FatNeville]

This sums it up.

[TheWombRaider]

There is a huge difference between Christianity and every other religion. All the other religions you die for your God. In Christinanity your God dies for you. There is a huge difference in saying Jesus Christ was a prophet and Jesus Christ is the son of God. Astronomical difference. Christianity doesn't recognize false prophets either.

See it's simple if Jesus Christ is not who he says he is. (Son of God) Then we wouldn't be talking about him to this very day.

[jshm2]

Positive.

But these days it's Muslims - not Islam - that people are hating on. Islam is just plain and simple monotheism - nothing else.

[loveslongnails]

I don't give a shit what you believe, so long as you don't force it on me or try to inflict it on my form of government. There are plenty of Islamic theocracies in the world that you can go live under.

[Miristheiss]

False religion.

Followers are deceived and will parish if they follow Islam until their deaths.

[Pohjolan]

A violent religion and completely incompatible with Western values.

[Anonymous]

A false religion made by warlords for warlords

If you read the Quran, in Arabic, which I have you would see just how many backwards ideas it preaches

[patrick994]

I honestly find it too extreme on certain points, I am happy to be a Christian

[OtterMan68]

when I see people in Islamic countries lynched, jailed, or executed for blasphemy or apostacy, it makes me think very lowly on Islam.

[Anonymous]

They can fight over piles of sand and cut eachothers heads off all they want. Just leave my 401k out of it. Do that, and I don't care.