What do you think about the hijap?

[Melanie31]

What do you think about the hijap? It protects us from the evil eyes of men and from sin.

[Lliam]

Hijabs weren't traditional in many Muslim cultures until sharia raised its ugly head in the 1980s after the Islamic Revolution. There are hundreds of photos from Islamic countries showing traditional clothing in the 1800s, all the way up through the 1970s.
It's more of a Saudi thing. The Koran does not command hijabs. I don't think Muhammad even mentioned them.

"It protects us from the evil eyes of men and from sin." What the? So you can accentuate your eyes and lips with makeup but it's your hair that drives evil men wild?

I actually don't mind hijabs. They are just head scarves. It's like wearing a hat. Some of them are pretty and can make women's faces look cute. If anything, I think some Muslim men find them erotic because they imagine what women who wear them are pure. And Muslim men get hard at the thought of virgins. So I don't even think hijabs accomplish their purpose. They only make women look mysterious and sexy.

In the end, hijabs are just a cultural thing but aren't commanded by Islamic religion.

[Garou101]

Is this a joke? The hijab is mentioned in the Quran and in ancient Islamic books from the golden age of Islam and it is widespread in distant Muslim countries, even like Indonesia before the eighties, so where did you get that it is a Saudi culture? The hijab is obligatory in the Islamic religion and it commands it, but it seems that your research sources are fundamentally hostile to Islam

[Lliam]

@Garou101. My statement is based on photos of traditional attire from Islamic cultures dating back to the mid-19th century. They were beautiful. They did include various head pieces, but didn't cover all the hair and certainly not the face.

[Garou101]

Pictures are not evidence to deny a religious obligation based on them. Do you know when the camera was invented and the meter spread in Muslim countries? I know about these traditional costumes, but they are a completely different matter because they are worn with the hijab, and since the hijab is a religious obligation and is worn regardless of whether the clothing is traditional or not, that is why it is not included in pictures. Also, do not forget the other religions in Muslim countries.

[Garou101]

But the shameful thing is that you say that the Quran did not command the hijab? It seems that you do not know anything about other religions.

[Garou101]

It never occurred to you that veiled women would not accept being photographed.

[Lliam]

@Garou101. I seem to have struck a nerve. From what Muslim culture did you descend? Are you a salafist?

[Garou101]

Why did you change the subject😂? You are distorting a whole religion and you know nothing about it.

[Lliam]

@Garou101. I don't place any credibility in your opinions. What makes you an expert?

[Garou101]

My first response to you shows that I know a lot more than you, because my words are based on reality and logic. Unlike you, you speak with confidence about an obligation in a religion and deny its obligation based on images.😂😂

[Lliam]

The Quran mentions the concept of hijab, which generally refers to modest covering, in two main verses: Surah An-Nur (24:31) and Surah Al-Ahzab (33:59). These verses guide women on how to dress modestly and cover certain parts of their bodies to maintain decency and avoid harassment.
Elaboration:

Surah An-Nur (24:31):
This verse instructs believing women to lower their gaze, guard their private parts, and not expose their adornment except what normally appears. It also directs them to draw their khimars (head coverings) over their bosoms.

Surah Al-Ahzab (33:59):
This verse instructs the Prophet's wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks (or outer garments) close around them when they go out, so they may be recognized and not annoyed.

Interpretation:
While these verses emphasize modesty and covering, the extent and interpretation of what constitutes hijab (like the head covering) vary among different Islamic scholars and communities. Some interpret the verses as a command for full body covering, while others focus on the concept of modesty and social context

[Lliam]

@Garou101. So where is this obligation to wear hijabs that you speak of?

I don't think you know anything about all the traditional Muslim cultures throughout history.
You just sound like a fired up fanatic preaching about your own views on religious obligation. Did you get that from attending a Saudi funded madrasa?

[Garou101]

Hahahaha, you mentioned Surah An-Nur and it mentions covering the head, and at the same time you ask where is the obligation? The hijab is part of the Muslim woman's dress code, as stated in the Quranic verse. All Islamic groups recognize the obligation of hijab, and as I mentioned before, it has been prevalent in all Islamic countries since ancient times, even in distant countries like Indonesia. Or do you want to assume that Islam entered Indonesia in the 1980s as well? Surah Al-Ahzab does contain an obligation on hijab, but it seems you don't know the original language. There is a hadith from the Prophet Muhammad regarding the obligation of hijab after the verse of Al-Ahzab (the reason for its revelation is the proven hadith of Anas in Sahih Al-Bukhari that Umar ibn Al-Khattab said, "O Messenger of God! Both the righteous and the wicked enter upon you. Why don't you command the Mothers of the Believers to wear hijab?" So God revealed the verse of hijab. When this verse was revealed, the Prophet veiled his women from foreign men, and Muslims veiled their women from men.)

Do you know the verse, "And when you ask them for something, ask them from behind a partition?"

[Garou101]

And have you heard that since the shirt usually has a slit at the front so that some of the neck, throat and chest are visible, God has commanded that it must be covered and covered, and explained how women should draw their veils over what the shirt does not cover, as God said: “And let them draw their veils over their bosoms.” And drawing: putting one thing on another, and the veil is the plural of veil, taken from the word “khamr,” which means covering and concealing, and the singular of the word “jib” is “jib,” which is a slit in the length of the shirt.

The meaning of “and to draw their veils over their bosoms” is that Allah commanded the believing women to cover their headscarves tightly over the uncovered areas, which are: the head, face, neck, throat, and chest. This is done by wrapping the veil that the woman places over her head and throwing it from the right side over the left shoulder. This is covering oneself. This is in contrast to the way the women of the Age of Ignorance used to do, when they would let their veil hang down behind their backs, so they were commanded to cover themselves.

[Garou101]

There is evidence from the Prophetic Sunnah, such as from Safiyyah bint Shaybah, that Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) used to say: When this verse was revealed, "And let them draw their veils over their bosoms," they took their azur (a type of garment), tore them at the edges, and covered themselves with them. Narrated by al-Bukhari (146).

On the authority of Umm Atiyyah (may Allah be pleased with her), who said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) commanded us to bring them out on the Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha: the young women, the menstruating women, and those who remained in seclusion. As for the menstruating women, they should refrain from prayer and witness the good deeds and supplications of the Muslims. I said: O Messenger of Allah! What if one of us does not have a jilbab? He said: Let her sister wear one of her jilbabs. This hadith indicates that it was customary among the women of the Companions for a woman to go out only in a jilbab, and the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not permit them to go out without a jilbab.

[Garou101]

To deduce from the verse in Surat Al-Ahzab, the deduce from this verse is the meaning of the jilbab as it appears in the Lisan Al-Arab dictionary, which is: the wide garment that covers the entire body, and it has the same meaning as: the sheet and the cloak, so the woman wears it over her clothes from the top of her head, letting it hang down and letting it hang down over her face and the rest of her body, and whatever adornment she has on her body, extending to cover her feet.

[Garou101]

All this and you say where is the obligation of the hijab? I know a lot about Islamic cultures but I was right about you getting your information from places hostile to Islam, and you tell me Islamic culture throughout history and I am the one who speaks to you about it here and you are talking about pictures from the eighties and you left all the sects that confirm the obligation of the hijab and all the books of interpretation since the era of the Prophet Muhammad, and now you turned the matter into a drama, what school is funded by Saudi Arabia 😂😂 Does the fact that I do not accept your mistakes and your spreading of lies and your distortion of religion mean that I am funded by Saudization? Don't you notice that you are the fanatic here and no one else

[Lliam]

@Garou101. I referred to photos from the mid-1800s through the mid-1900s, not the 1980s.

You are indoctrinated. You obviously know nothing about the various Islamic cultures. You are just a 24 year old radical preaching some Sharia interpretation of the Quran that you were taught.
You don't speak for all Muslims.

And I am not, in any way, anti-Islamic. I have Syrian, Palestinian, Afghani, Pakistani and Persian friends. But I do disdain people like you who are as fanatical as Goyim-hating Zionists or head chopping, woman-stoning Taliban.

[Garou101]

Read your comment well at the beginning, didn't you mention the eighties? And why do you repeat what you said that you responded to before? The previous responses prove that you are the one who does not know anything about Islam and I have proven this, and because I say the truth and reject your distortion of religion, you made me an extremist funded by Saudi Arabia and turned the matter into Salafism. What is the atmosphere of conspiracy that you live in, man? Be realistic, and where is the fanaticism? Do you want me to say that you distort religion and deny its obligation and I praise you and tell you great work? Of course I will say that you are wrong, don't be so dramatic and vulgar, be open and realistic, and do you think in all your mind that I am a prompter lol, you are literally talking about yourself here, you want to deny a fact and you want everyone to agree with you on this, and if someone talks to you about reality, logic and the life we live, I become an extremist 😂

[Garou101]

As I said before, the hijab is obligatory in all Islamic sects since the time of the Prophet Muhammad. You literally know nothing about Islam and are even hostile to it, and yet you tell me this? Be realistic, you are talking about yourself.

[Garou101]

I will clarify some things for you.

I am not expressing a personal or extremist opinion. Rather, I am stating what all Muslim scholars and their schools of jurisprudence have agreed upon, based on the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Let's not forget that the hijab was mentioned even in texts from the Golden Age of Islam, as I mentioned previously.

This is not indoctrination; rather, it is a firm understanding based on legal evidence agreed upon by the majority of jurists and Muslims. However, the prevailing view for centuries has been that it is obligatory.

[Lliam]

@Garou101. Your opinion means nothing to me, kid. Most Muslims don't want to live under the fundamentalism that you are so attached do. Go back to Saudi Arabia, marry a virgin, keep her under lock and key, and beat her regularly to let her know who is boss.

[Garou101]

Did you lie and believe the lie? What extremism are you talking about? Is it because I told the truth that all Muslims and non-Muslims know that you became an extremist? Or is it because I did not praise you for distorting religion that I became an extremist? What does Saudi Arabia have to do with it?😂
Speak to me with reality and logic. I spoke to you about history, religion, and linguistic dictionaries, and you did not find an answer, so you evaded and attacked me? Don't you notice that you are the extremist here? You confirm my words about you, you are just an enemy of Islam, and I also discovered something new, that you are truly a mentally ill person

[Lliam]

@Garou101. You didn't prove jack, except that you are an extremist who knows little about Islamic cultures. All you have done is rant. Wasting time on you is worse than talking science with a Christian Creationist.

[jshm2]

There is no such thing as "hijap" I think you mean "hijab".

It has many different meanings, From "scarf" to "state of modesty".

So if you're wearing nothing but a hijab, you would not be considered "in hijab" etc etc.

It actually is functional clothing, as far as I am aware, and is worn by all women regardless of faith in hot regions. It keeps the sun off the head, keeps the face cool, and sand/dirt out the hair.

[MrChinaski]

Genuine question. Why do islamic women feel a need to cover themselves?

[DrPepper12]

The Koran commands feminine modesty

[Gwendoline]

I think it's nice provided it's a choice. I used to volunteer at a women's shelter in England, we got a lot of women fleeing their husband’s, father's and families.

[katiesmuff]

Whatever trips your trigger is fine with me. It's none of my business and doesn't harm me or anyone else and you should be able to do as you please.

[strateguy632]

But "evil" men still see your face... women have pretty faces?

The neck is not attractive. if the goal is about sin, then don't cover neck, that is not attractive, just pretty face called niqab.

[DJB72]

I think you'll find that's bollocks. If your men are so pathetic they can't stop themselves assaulting a woman that's a them problem. You should find a group of REAL men to protect you if that's what you want

[andreasderjuengere]

Back in Malaysia I noticed that the hijab often is an item of vanity and fashion competition.

I find it pointless, and thus ignore such ladies wearing it.

Which - in a way - also serves its purpose :)

[ShivaniPandey]

As being a Hindu I don't like it very much but when my boyfriend who is a muslim asks me to were then I were it happily.
by the way I look very cute in Hijab.

[DrPepper12]

Muhammad never discussed it in the hadiths nor does the Korean command it. It's a cultural choice, not a religious proscription. It's foolish like all religious nonsense

[Garou101]

Frankly, it is really a religious matter, not a cultural one, but it is clear from your words and from many of your different comments that you are a person who is strongly hostile to Islam.

[Paige90]

I think you mean "hijab" and they look stupid!

[glennos89]

So why aren't men protected from the eyes of other woman then? Sexual attraction works both ways

[MrChinaski]

I would never tell a woman I loved what to wear. That's their husband's job.

And before you pile on me, that was a joke.

[loveyouoak]

I don't think the hijab protects against the evil eye of men and sins. I think we should be able to use our hair freely.

[Staximus]

Do you know why that was really invented? To protect your face from the sun and sand out in the middle of the desert. If you're not out in the desert, you don't need to wear it

[Garou101]

It's a religious matter and you're conveying it in the desert 😂 and you're interpreting things the way you like

[Staximus]

@Garou101 it was invented to keep the sun and sand off of your neck and face 2000 years ago you fucking idiot. Long before your stupid fucking cult book worshiping the fucking pedophile Muhammad was even written. You know why Muslim women started wearing it after that? Because Mesopotamian women wore headdresses to distinguish themselves from slaves and prostitutes.

[Garou101]

Lol why do you make things up to suit your whims? But it became clear in the rest of your comment that you are an anti-Islam and that is why you deny that the hijab is a religious matter, and all your information is wrong because the obligation of the hijab is mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah, but you are a sick person of course you will not think logically

[Staximus]

@Garou101 where in the Quran does it mention women have to cover their head? It doesn't you fucking idiot

[Garou101]

It was mentioned in Surat Al-Ahzab and Surat An-Nur of the Quran, and there is an obligation for it in the Sunnah as well, so the only fool here is you because you are just a racist against Islam and despite this you make things up in your head to deny the obligations in Islam

[Staximus]

@Garou101 one of my good friends was Muslim but I think all religion is equally stupid

[Staximus]

@Garou101 Christianity is just a stupid as Islam, they're both cults worshiping a man. All the other religions that worship a so-called God are just worshiping an imaginary all powerful magic big daddy in the sky. It's all a bunch of bullshit.

[Staximus]

@Garou101 Jesus Muhammad Buddha whatever. No man is any greater than you or me. Fuck that bullshit

[Garou101]

Islam and Christianity worship a man? Man, don't Muslims worship a god called Allah? How did you make them worship a man? Stop being racist, man, and live normally.

[Staximus]

@Garou101 religion is for idiots

[Anonymous]

Based on your pfp (wallah I know it's not you), seems like there are two more things you should cover up properly.

[Bklynbadboy12]

Its funny you say that cause I think it makes Muslim women look even sexier!!!

[Cheerfull009]

Only Muslims thinks like that but others are against Hijaab

[In_Trance]

It does a shitty job. Because you still rail

[Jerre]

I’ve never given it any thought

[Jerre]

@Melanie31 Thank you for the Like

[Anonymous]

It protects from sunlight

[MrChinaski]

So does 50+ sunscreen. So far as I can discern the primary purpose of the hijab is to subjugate women.

[Garou101]

@bddddd Where is the submission in this? Do you love playing the roles of the oppressed and the atmosphere of drama to the point of stupidity😂