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The truth about modern Equalitarians and Humanist (a. k. a. Equali-nazis) (Page 2)
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(I'm anon because I don't feel like getting hate messages right now, not because I don't own my opinion; I'm open about being egalitarian most of the time)
I like the egalitarian label because it leaves people who "oppose" feminism (or the movement they see as feminism) in a better mindset to discuss problems. It makes it clear that I'm not going to tell them to sit down, shut up, and wait until women are 100% satisfied when they bring up legitimate problems that they have, which some people have experienced. I advocate for women's rights, and I happily support rallies, organizations, and political movements which support equality. I'm not getting nothing done, and I'm not derailing conversations.
I resent being compared to those people, like many feminists resent being compared to female supremacists.
To be clear, I'm not saying all, or even most, feminists are rude about the legitimate problems of other people! Just that it happens sometimes, and people get overly defensive in return.
I am an Egalitarian, it's what i live by and how i attempt to conduct myself, you've done some impressive research, but please don't blanket all of us, we're not all like that, i know you said there were only a few users you've seen, but regardless, the way you said it made it sound like you were targeting all of us. There are 4 societies in the world which are the closest to being true Egalitarian societies, those are, Finland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark. i hope you have a nice day, please do not make another post like this, it doesn't make people particularly popular.
I don't care about popularity. If the other users stop but that isn't going to happen.
You talking about equal rights?
Pffft, please. For STARTERS, let us address sexual harassment and divorce.
A woman can make up sexual harassment and get away with it, literally.
Can a guy? Sure, but who's going to believe them given the nature of "men"?
I know here in New York in a divorce a man can work to pay for a house (that he doesn't even live in) an apartment, all his bills and child support and have NO priors... while his wife or soon to be ex-wife can drink, not work and have prior legal records and she will still GET CUSTODY. Why... because she has a pussy.
'the fuck outta here with your equality bullshit.
Oh and, there's no way in hell he can even get her evicted from the house HE'S PAYING FOR.
Looks like you suffer from misogyny.
No he suffers from reality. Open your eyes pls.
@DJC110995
Thank you. DJC. What I said is FACTUAL. It's not what I heard or read, it's what I've seen first hand many times.
The take owner is very ignorant.
As a child of a divorced family I can attest to the father not even getting shared custody for the simple fact that he is not the mother.
I think I meant joint custody... As in parents get equal amount of time with the kids. I only saw my dad 4 days a month until I was old enough to make my decisions on my own
Yes, yes you can. It's fucked up.
It's not my family and I never said anything about joint custody, she has main custody. I really don't care if you believe me or not. He's a friend of mine that had his life ruined. Your opinion in the case is literally irrelevant.
It's sad you people live in a bubble.
Are you talking to me or did someone comments get deleted? Haha I feel like some questions must have gotten deleted as I didn't intend to offend
@Zendrya Not you since you are talking from direct experience. These guys though don't know the first thing about divorce. Divorce is a business and the one with the best lawyer wins because the best lawyer knows the judge and has an immediate connection.
No offense but I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the opinion owner. :p
@Zendrya Oh, haha!
I know the things I say are factual my friends have gone through it. You say bullshit that you think you know something about when you have no clue. Just stop talking, stop, stop, stop, STOP!!!
All you're doing is tainting other sheeple with ignorance. You're ruining the world, quite literally.
It is a business, just like everything else.
I won't argue that.
But she doesn't have a job and he does. So how could she have the "better" lawyer. Even if you said she took part child support to pay for one that doesn't mean that's what did. Lets say she had the better lawyer, he still has to work within the confines of the law.
How can they manipulate the fact that the woman is not fit to care for a child when she can not even care for herself?
You don't have me sold.
Then again people have gotten away with worse, usually those are people of great wealth, not the average joe, in which I'm speaking of.
I've seen this happen many times, it's no coincidence, it's just sexist.
I feel really bad for Australian men when it comes to family law. Check this out (its real) lh3.googleusercontent.com/.../...-of-Australia.jpg
Why don't Social Justice Warriors and members of the Politically Correct Police ever criticize Islam for the way it treats women and homosexuals? Female genital mutilation, stoning suspected adulterers to death, executing homosexuals, etc., but for some reason Islam gets a pass from the SJWs. Why is that?
Politically correct has "political" right in the name for a reason. Politically correct, has nothing to do with standing up for what is right. It is about selective censorship so that power can change hands. If they don't agree with your message, then they deem it as offensive. But by their own rules people aren't allowed to speak out against a group unless that group is the majority. Going against the minority in this country won't create a power vacuum that they can take advantage of. That is why they only ever go after the majority, or at least those they believe to be in power.
To be fair there are Christians who do those things to.
@Goldie757 I fail to see how that's fair? What about Hindus or Buddhists? What about atheists? What you said isn't a fair claim at all, it's just used to drag another religion's name through the muck. What would be fair is if you just said people. Extremists aren't representative of someone's faith. People like that are just crazy, unless their religion is specifically based off of those actions that has nothing to do with whatever faith they follow. It's entirely dependent on that person as an individual. Atheists are also more than capable of doing something like that, they don't need a religion to do those things they just need to see it as a good idea. I've met plenty of atheists who had murderous thoughts toward cheaters, absolutely despise gays, and see female "genital mutilation" as nothing different than male circumcision.
Feminism was about equality, it seems to be it's now more about man hating, anything that is pro something is trying to inflate its worth above what it's being compared to. PRO gay, PRO woman.
I am all for equality and im sure many others are, but when you keep striving for more and more thats when it becomes a problem, in any race, gender, or minority of society.
too true. moderation in all things.
I could argue with you all day about how feminists are the biggest hypocrites, but it seems like you're already drowning in the kool-aid. But here, just watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3jnwbSFAUThanks for proving my point. With responses like these I don't need to list names. Have a nice day. ❤
Your stupid video makes no sense.
I really like this video! :D
I will never call myself a feminist. I am an equalist. I tend to focus on everyone but women because I feel the feminists have that covered. I often post on here in defense of men all though gender identification or race is never mentioned in my posts therefore I refer to every man. I'm also part of my schools GSA club and very frequently make posts here defending race, gender identification, and sexuality. Feminism is completely flawed and so is your myTake in my humble opinion
I don't know i just think all of the equality movements (like feminism) are just different arms of egal.
You dont have to use the label, sure, but if you believe in equality, you want females to have it too, and if you do then i will call them feminist. It doesn't have to be a dirty word. :)
No but are you misunderstand I have never seen a feminist movement that solved a man's problem but you have women's problems solved left right and centre. There is a big difference between being a feminist and an equalist @jjmarvin
Yes your humble opinion.
For someone's who's whole post about how people who identify as equalists are all one sided and are confrontational you're one to talk. Very hypocritical
I agreed with you that it's your humble opinion and now I'm confrontational? I think you just wanted to find a way to call me a hypocrite.
No I really wasn't. The way I read it was sarcastic. I saw your comments on every other opinion that disagreed with yours and you were utterly rude so I assumed you were doing the same to me actually.
Utterly rude? I have to disagree with you.
Well its not about solving men's problems though. It's about solving female problems to make sure of fairness to women. It's men's groups that are snot solving male problems. But the egalitarianism comes into play when the people from both women's and men's groups can show solidarity and sincerity with and toward one another. Cuz really if you're egalitarian you're both of those things. And in order to be either of those things (people who fight for true equality for their demographics) you have to be egalitarian or you're not fighting for equality. :)
That's why they are all related :)
One of feminisms huge arguments is they are there to help men too. @jjmarvin
Yes it is, and is based on the principal that in terms of sociology, men and women share a paradigm where those 2 demographics constantly evolve socially from one another, and fair treatment earned for one demo can benefit the other.
For, say, pro choice. It's about a woman's rights over her own body. If we can make sure women have that health care right protected, we're also protecting the male half in any heterosexual couple.
Also, while most rape victims outside of the prison system are women, and women are the ones talked about mostly, our laws will ensure those protections across gender lines.
So while it's not their responsibility to campaign male causes, fairness is still fairness and everybody benefits. :)
I don't see men gaining custody of their children. I don't see mean receiving a place to go to like women and children if they are abused. Like there are so many inequalities that men have that I just could never agree with feminism who's intent is to better women and ignore everyone else. @jjmarvin
Well like i said, each group has a specific focus. We all just have to work together and be positive.
I mean i want those things, obviously lol. I am a guy afterall. I just don't think it's fair of my to ask women's rights activism to take a pause until everything with men is sorted out first. That's why we need to allocate egalitarianism into its different arms like feminism and black activism and lgbt, etc. We need a simultaneous effort on all fronts.
I just don't understand why anyone would label themselves a feminist (saying women's rights are more important than everyone else's essentially) rather than an equalist who wants and works for equality of everyone. @jjmarvin
Well that's the thing, the real ones don't think that they're more important. I don't think I've ever met a single person who only cares about one social issue. Even racists have a large list of things they agree or disagree on.
A women's rights activist can campaign for their cause but still speak passionately about, say, the plight of gay males in rural areas.
I guess you don't like having basic human rights, do you?
I do there was a time for feminism. There was a point in time where we were so unequal it was needed. But now at least in more developed countries we are so close it makes no sense to continue only aiding women. @Loligirl
"Egalitarianism is an all-encompassing label for various forms of social justice such as feminism, anti-racism, LGBTQ, freedom of religion, etc. If you call yourself an egalitarian then you must support all of those causes."
Nope.
And that's really the only thing that needs to be said to destroy this entire take.
Then you aren't an equalist.
Or feminists are bold-face lying about their agenda. You should ask Erin Pizzey why she got death threats.
I agree with this. Feminism has name for the same reason Black Lives Matters does, becuase, while everyone's life matters and everyone should be equal, black people are the ones being victimized and women are not being fairly. Changing the name ignores the problem.
And both feminism and BLM are hypocrites. If black lives mattered so much to them they'd stop killing themselves.
Feminism is trying to find something to fight for cause there's nothing else to fight for, cause in the West they're equal.
@AleDeEurope
Who is they? I'm pretty sure black lives matter protesters aren't all in gangs shooting each other up in drive bys.
@AleDeEurope Spoken like a racist, generalizing an entire race on the behavior of the few and not seeing anything wrong with it. Well, white people need to stop bitch that "All Lives Matter" when theyre so quick to belittle other ethnic groups for very same shit white people do. So please take your mentally ill pedophile ass into a mental institution before you start mass shooting.
@ras144 You call me a racist and you generalize about white people too? So I guess you're proud of being racist. Call me a racist if you want, I don't know you, I don't care about your opinion, I'm 100% sure I am not a racist, given how many times I've supported black people, but I'm not gonna support a group who doesn't give a shit about little kids getting shot down by gangs.
@vishna I'm pretty sure not all of them are either, but many are. Many will march the streets when a cop shoots a teen holding a knife (which I agree that the cop murdered him, not saying otherwise), but will do nothing when an 11 y/o kid is executed by gang members.
How can BLM expect change, when they don't do anything to change how other black people see black people's lives?
Have you seen people marching in a black lives matter protest? They're a lot of young educated people, the movement is so diverse. Yes, a lot of supporters are black, but they're not all black gang bangers. It's kinda crazy you would go so far as to say many. I would say an overwhelming majority of murderers and gang bangers aren't going to protests and rallies.
@AleDeEurope
@vishna In St. Louis, a man was killed by cops. He shot the cops and the cops shot back, which resulted in his death.
A little black girl in her room, studying, was killed due to a drive-by shooting. They aimed for someone else, but some bullets went into the little girl's room and killed her.
Who did BLM rallied for? Yeah, that's right, the black man who shot the police and was killed.
Perhaps BLM is filled by educated people like you say, and there aren't many gangbangers like I said, perhaps I'm wrong on that. But I'm certainly not wrong when I say they do not fight to save black lives, their actions show that. If they did, they'd start in the black communities. Hey, they can come to Chicago, there's a lot of work to do here.
I think that within the black community there is a lot being done via churches and programs to help pull young people off the streets and away from violence. The black lives matter movement kick started because of police brutality towards black people. So, while I think 99% of supporters are against black on black crimes, that's not what the movement was created for and not what the focus is on.
I have seen posts, even by some black people, about how hard it will be for people to value black lives, if black on black crime is prevalent. But it's important to note that the overwhelming majority of black people aren't violent and on the streets. And, the level of crime is seen in certain areas. Chicago is a hell of a lot worse than some small city, and that's a mixture of history and unfortunately culture. This might be a little jumbled, but I hope you see where I'm coming from.
I couldn't care less what anyone believes or stands for as long as it has no direct harm to myself or my family. I personally am a men's rights activist. It is what it is. Everyone believes in something. And it is not our place to judge someone based off the views they hold. That in itself is hypocrisy.
You're an MRA? Lol. So you like standing up for Rapists and "DudeBro" Culture? Do like eating grass out of the yard? My god, sometimes I fear for my fellow women. Some of you are such luddites.
And you're pretty stupid.
@Loligirl no, you are what is toxic in today's world. Nothing but judgmental scum who feed into the medias bullshit. You have the nerve to judge me? Do you realize that men can also be raped? But that's justified, right? Its women like you who are what's wrong with society. Its women like you who make me fear women's place in this world.
Yes we know men get raped. You don't have to worry about society jumping to the defense of the woman when she accuses a man of rape. I work at a high school and just last week a girl accused a boy of raping her. The students blame the girl and said she wanted it. She now has to transfer to another school and the boy will be returning to the one I work at. I believe this is one of the issues the MRA and some equalitarians complain about. No one gives men a chance in rape cases but I beg to differ.
We all have our opinions. For people to call me stupid because I simply don't follow their beliefs is what is wrong with this world. I don't have to share the same beliefs as anyone else. Yes, women get raped every single day and half of those women don't get justice. Half of those women are blamed for the mans actions. Was I in anyway stating that a man who rapes should be let go with nothing but a slap on the wrist? Absolutely not. However, since I am MRA I am wrongly accused and blamed off of peoples assumptions for what I stand for. Not once was I asked how far my commit was in the MRA belief. Not once was I asked what my beliefs were at all. Instead, I am called stupid and made out to be a complete moron ("Do like eating grass out of the yard"- really? Damn pathetic). Its women like this that make me follow men. Because you people refuse to believe that a man could have it hard as well. If you don't have a vagina and tits than you are scum. You guys have proved my point.
Never said the MRA wants rapist to get a slap on the wrist. I see MBA supporters on here claiming men accused of rape are unfairly judged and don'the understand why feminist organizations come to the defence of the female rape victim. This is an example of why they do it. Also I didn'the accuse you of doing this. Hence why I said SOME. Also never said "if you don't have tips or a vagina" you are scum. You're stereotyping feminist like you said you hate being stereotypedone as an MBA supporter.
FINALLY, someone made a Take talking how stupid this Feminist vs Anti-Feminist war is. Of course, both sides are too immature to see that they're just as good/bad as the other.
Thank you!
"Most Western nations are egalitarian in name but there is no "true" egalitarian society as patriarchy still exists"
What patriarchy in the Western world do you speak of because that no longer exists here.
That's your opinion.
No it's not, asides from double standards that both sexes face, women have the same legal rights as men so no, we do not live in a patriarchy in Western countries and to think that we do is delusional.
Take it or leave it it's still an opinion.
nice argument.
Not an argument. Stating a fact. Your statement is an opinion.
No it's not, do you have evidence that there's still a patriarchy in Western countries like the U. S, Canada, etc?
Do you have proof there isn't?
you're the one claiming there is patriarchy so the burden of proof doesn't lie on me, it lies on you. To try and shift this burden on me is a logical fallacy
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
In other words you don't have proof.
We respond to crimes against women in sexual assault with "What was she wearing?" or "What was she doing out that late?" is enough to prove that we live in a patriarchal society. The fact that a woman will get called a prude if she wears a skirt that goes down to her ankles is enough to prove that we live in a patriarchal society. A guy being called "the man" while a girl is called a slut for taking part in the exact same series of intimate exchanges with the opposite sex is enough to prove that we live in a patriarchal society. Women are commonly seen as untidy if they don't wear makeup and if they do wear makeup, they are still seen in a negative light, usually as a high maintenance sort of person. Men and women still are not making the same amount of money for the same job yet. Sanitary pads and tampons have a luxury tax. There are still more male higher ups over female higher ups. Our country still has not been ran by a woman.
All those things you mentioned are double standards against women however they don't in anyway impose on the legal rights of women. A patriarchy is defined as a social system in which males hold primary power in social political contexts (families, gov't, private property, etc.). This isn't true because patriarchal families are not common place in Western countries, in Canada (I'm canadian) we have a feminist PM that has a cabinet 50% female and male, women have the same opportunity as males as they can potentially have any job they want including president (just because a female president has not happened yet doesn't it mean it won't eventually). Women have no legal obligation to be mother or wives, it's a personal decision they make for themselves in Western countries and they are allowed to own private property. None of this reflects a patriarchy.
www.cbc.ca/.../...ral-government-cabinet-1.3304590
To counter balance all these double standards you wrote against women, let's take a look at some of the ones against men?
-How about gender biases in family courts and how they favour women with majority of mothers winning child custody cases? "Mothers accounted for the majority of custodial parents (82.6 percent) while 17.4 percent were fathers, proportions statistically unchanged from 1994"
https://www.census.gov/prod/2009pubs/p60-237.pdf
-How about that 4/5 of young adult suicides are by men? https://www.poverty.org.uk/37/index.shtml
-Men have 0 reproductive rights despite the fact that it takes both a woman and man to make a baby
-In the U. S, all males aged 18-25 are required, under law, to sign up for the draft otherwise they will be fined $250,000 or spend 5 years in jail. This is something that women are not required to do.
-male rape victims receive less support than female rape victims + other forms of male discrimination: https://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/
The point is not that males suffer more than females, it's that both sexes face double standards and it doesn't indicate a patriarchy
Also, to counter your point about gender pay gap. This does exist since men are payed more in general but this is because women, in general, take more time off work, choose less paying and less riskier jobs. This isn't because of some patriarchy that is forcing women to be in less paying jobs and working less hours to tend to kids, it's something women CHOOSE to do.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0283.pdf
Read this: hubpages.com/.../The-Patriarchy-Myth-And-Other-Feminist-Half-Truths
I see you chose what you wanted to respond to and ignore. In short this was a waste of time.
I responded to the gist of what you wrote with credible sources as proof which you incorrectly said I didn't have. No, this was not a waste of time because your failure to counter argument what I wrote just goes to show that you're just another feminist trying to push feminism down other people's throats and have nothing to back yourself up. Why do you think modern feminism already has such a bad name?
Um. No. This is another issue with equalitarians like you. You fall right into the people I was talking about in this article. :) A feminist? Common attack used by a equali-nazi. I'm not a feminist but that doesn't matter because according to people like yu anyone who doesn't agree with you is a feminist. You give equalitarians a bad name but continue doing what you're doing. It just proves I'm right.
Your entire response is ironic and hilarious because you're giving me shit for assuming you're a feminist but you just assumed I was an egalitarian/equalitarian when I never stated I was lmfao. All you did was spout out a bunch of nonsense (like the existence of a patriarchy) and have no evidence to back it up, that doesn't prove you're right at all lol.
Not ironic but I find your hubris amusing. Assumed? Clearly you are the only one assuming. I've seen you posting on this site before. I don't have evidence for my statements? Try again. Unlike the "evidence" you provided which is inaccurate.
Look around you, we are sexualized in the media, overweight women are too ashamed to leave their homes and unaccepted by society, women are deadlocked out of attaining high rank in their careers and shamed for shunning their "Traditional Roles" and 1 in 4 women are raped, all while 90% of all high ranking positions and almost ALL of the world's wealth are held by cis-white men... we live in a very patriarchal and racist society
If you have evidence, you certainly have not provided any. You mind elucidating how my evidence is inaccurate? If you're going to claim something, you need to back it up. It's common sense.
@Loligirl
That's quite probably the dumbest shit I've read all day. Both sexes are sexualized in media, I don't know where you live because I see fat people everywhere, especially food courts. 1 in 4 women are raped? Source? 90% of white cis men hold all the wealth? That sounds more like a problem with capitalism but anyways, source?
Common sense you lack. It's your job to make sure the information you provide is accurate.
The sources are all pretty good to me, why don't YOU tell ME how they're not accurate.
Shifting the task to me? I'm sure with your train of thought they are good. This is often seen in cantankerous individuals. It's not my fault you were in such a hurry to provide evidence that you failed to fact check your "sources".
Okay so let me get this straight.
You claim things like a patriarchy exist and can't provide evidence for it
You assume I'm egalitarian while you can't provide evidence for it
And when I ask what's wrong with my evidence because I really fail to see the problem with them, you can't even tell me what's wrong with them.
So from my understanding, you're full of shit, just like your mytake.
Okay so let me get this straight.
You claim the patriarchy doesn't exist and can't provide evidence for it.
You don't deny being an equalitarian but get upset that I know you are one because I've seen on GAG claiming the belief.
I respond to your original post disagreeing with your opinion and you say "nice argument" and get upset when I respond with information.
And when I inform you that your "evidence" and "sources" are inaccurate you get upset and blame me for your inaccuracy instead of going back to verify them.
So from my understanding, you're full of shit, just like your life.
1. I did provide evidence, the one that you think is faulty so that's bullshit
2. I'm not an egalitarian, I may have identified as one in the past but I also considered myself an atheist and a feminist back then to, shit changes. You still haven't provided that "GAG evidence" though.
3. All you responded with is "Take or leave it, it's still an opinion"
That's not exactly information, your entire mytake is an opinion, at least I backed up what I claimed.
4. All I legit asked you to do was tell me how they're inaccurate, if you can't even tell me that then I have no reason to believe that anything is wrong with my evidence.
In short, you CLAIM to have all this evidence but where is it? Huh? I'm still waiting.
1. What world do you live in where faulty information is considered "proof"? Denial world?
2. Proven but if you're to dense to see that then it's your fault.
3. Not an opinion. An observational piece. Though by GAG terms myTakes are opinion pieces. Hence the name "myTake". You have still failed to provide any evidence.
4. If you can't go back over the inaccurate information you gave yourself then you won't make it in this world. I'm not here to baby you. I gave you the information. Still waiting on your evidence.
1. YOU STILL HAVEN'T TOLD ME HOW IT'S FAULTY, IF YOU CAN"T DO THAT I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO SAY.
2. If it's proven then I need evidence otherwise, you're full of shit. It's not called being dense, it's called common sense. You're going to claim something, you better provide evidence.
3."observational piece" fancy words for a mytake based on observational and anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal evidence =/= scientific evidence thus rendering this mytake with no factual merit.
4. It's not called babying, it's called good argumentative skills.
Again, it's you continuing the whole "I don't need to provide evidence but you need to provide evidence oh and your evidence sucks but I won't tell you how it sucks because I'm not here to baby you" sureeeee. You can't tell me what's wrong with my evidence because you're just trying to deflect my argument. I'm getting real tired of this charade Asker lmao.
You can throw all the hissy fits you want but it won't change the fact you're wrong. Not gonna hold your hand through this. Come back when you can provide evidence and argue properly.
Lmao still repeating the same nonsense. This is been you through out this entire argument: "You're wrong! I won't explain how or even give you proof but you're wrong because I said you're wrong!"
perfect example of the argumentative skills of a 5 year old. Nice.
"Lmao still repeating the same nonsense. This is been you through out this entire argument: "You're wrong! I won't explain how or even give you proof but you're wrong because I said you're wrong!"
perfect example of the argumentative skills of a 5 year old. Nice."
Spoken like a true child upset that they were proven wrong. Don't start an "argument" if you can't face the truth.
To prove me wrong, you'd have to provide evidence whilst counter arguing my points which you haven't done so you really haven't "proved" anything except what a hypocrite you are by writing a mytake complaining about egalitarians who complain about feminism, as other users here have pointed out. I'll quote you:
"I'm sure you have seen these users posting on GAG calling themselves "humanist" or "equalitarians". They call everything and everyone sexist who don't agree with them."
"Feminism is equality - it is a form of egalitarianism and if you do not believe in it then you are not actually an egalitarian but an idiot using it’s name to benefit yourself."
We can all see through your shit and I've wasted enough time trying to bother with a person who has the maturity of a 12 year old. Good luck trying to convince people how modern feminism is about equality, Asker because you're going to need plenty of it.
"We"? Says the girl who just claimed to no longer to be a equalitarian. You proved nothing except how pretentious and full of shit you are. But a kid such as yourself would'not be able to comprehend.
I've been wanting to touch on this for sometime. I'm sure you have seen these users posting on GAG calling themselves "feminists". They call everything and everyone sexist who don't agree with them.
I don't call myself a feminist and I call people sexist only if they are being sexist, does that count
I guess this myTake hit you in a sore spot.
If Feminism was self correcting it might have stood a chance at not being recorded in history as just another wacky hate group. Like in say Physics, someone comes up with a theory and others in that field try to reproduce it and tear it apart to find any and all flaws in the theory to see if it will stand on it's own, Feminism does the opposite of this, just like many other religions or hate groups, propaganda etc..
So by your statement "Equalitarians" are another hate group.
well said
"So by your statement "Equalitarians" are another hate group."
No not even close. Feminism is taught in academia and is immune to criticism and self correction, it literally has more in common with things like religion or propaganda then it does rational thought.
Philosophy, ethics in particular, is essentially what "Equalitarians" are, which is something that is hotly debated and critiqued.
People are going to think what they want, And they will perceive things differently. That fact cannot be escaped. Now we can either respect those differences, Or we can continue to destroy each other over those difference. Now.. If you (the reader) wants tolerance and respect, Then be prepared to give it. Don't be hypocrites. No one owes it to you to think like you.
I still don't know what's the basic difference between these two ideas, because.. Feminists claim, women and men are equal and hence women should have equal rights as men. Equalitarians claim, men and women are equal hence both have equal rights.
I say, fuck you both, men and women are not equal, if they were they wouldn't be divided into two different groups aka man and woman.
But.. But
Men and women should have equal rights, because they are both humans.
Honestly, no two people are equal. Some are good at being a doctor, some programmer; some are more intelligent than others and some less. Equality is nonexistent.
Awesome MyTake.
I really think "Egalitarian" and "Humanist" are just MRA projects, designed to confuse recruits away from Feminism. It reeks of patriarchy.
To be fair - modern day feminism has become just as bad. It has become less about equality and more about priority. Now this is not to say that that is all feminists, but it is many. Egalitarians advocate for equality, and I am all for it if feminists are going for that too, but from what I've seen that is far from the case.
"but the aim to solve everything makes it unable to ever concentrate on just one thing, leading to nothing be solved in the end."
then why does feminism promote itself as equality for all? You're literally criticizing them for doing what feminism is also trying to do.
I'm criticising them because they criticise feminism for doing the same. They fight for the same thing yet they hate on feminist.
Usually from them I just hear how they say feminism only cares about women and nothing else. Feminism says the egalitarians are useless because they can't pick on something specific. If you want people to understand feminism then you need to take a solid stance that you stick by no matter what. Feminism flip flops way too much on this subject and that's why a lot of people are confused and think it's just a lie because they say whatever they think will get them support. One day it's specifically for women and say standing for everyone won't get anything done. Then the next day when someone calls them sexist they say they stand for everyone. You have to pick ONE side and stick by it. Don't use what egalitarians are doing as an excuse to flip flop just because someone else does something stupid does not excuse you for doing it.
Not my job to have people understand feminism. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.
LOL SO YOU WANT MEN TO PAYING FOR YOU ON DATES? Ohh so now that men are asking for equality, women are giving us a backlash.
WHAT A SURPRISE!!
/s The oppressor doesn't want to lose her power position... and keep men 2nd class citizens. Unacceptable. Women ARE the enemy of not just equality, but also men, boys & society.
Great, all women suck
Thanks for trolling.
Men are waking up, your oppression won't last long no matter how much you demonize equality now...