Interesting. This is one of the best things I've ever read on feminazis. MGTOW I know a little bit about. I think there are quite a few guys in that group like you described. However I think there are definitely others who like the group for other reasons like they enjoy being independent and not committing to marriage. Which is perfectly acceptable. Some men enjoy being single, and avoiding the difficulties and responsibilities of marriage/ finding someone and want to live the way they prefer. I don't think that makes them any less "manly" than a guy in a relationship. So while quite a few may be I don't think everyone in there hates women or is misogynistic. I think some are more against the concept of marriage and prefer being single.
So, you think that by crapping on everyone you're automatically correct?
That is exactly what it boils down to after reading it all. Some of what you said is right, but other points were childish. For example, when you were talking about MGTOW all you did was make fun of its members and say bs about it because 'hurr I'm not included in the exclusive club'. Literally none of what you said was valid. The whole point of it is that it's for men who want to check out of social norms and don't want anything to do with women. Basically men that want to stay single, period. Yet you turned it into something about demonizing women. WTF?
I'm not even part of the group, I don't really care for social movements and clubs. However, I hate it when people spread lies and misinformation.
I don't think you got the irony where I "made fun" of the MGTOW movement lol. I put the caption under it to point out that this insulting way of referring to their group is just as bad as attavking women and feminists as a whole. It was supposed to be ironic, not literal. My take seeks to challenge a negative perspective for the betterment of everyone, but my word isn't the word of God, so take why you can from it.
No I got it, you tried to put it in the same category as what Feminists look like when they are 'insulted'. Except your statement had no validity whatsoever.
The thing about irony is that it has to be something true otherwise you're just pulling stuff out your a.
You really need to focuss on yourself instead of raging on a bunch of extremist people who wasted your time while you were writing all this. This is exactly what they want. Attention. an open podium were there thoughts and ideas are being discussed by someone who's clearly mad. I live my life by the' not a single fuck was given that day' quote. Works fine for me. U dont like the way i dress, ooh well fine. U dont like my beard well i didn't grow it for u. U dont like the way i work, i dont care. Just keep doing whatever the F you want. Anyway the feminazis. That was a great part !
I don't feel like I raged at all in this take. I Made an effort to put it together in as positive as a way as I could. Sure, the title was harsh and I made some crass remarks, but that's just my nature.
I am glad that you enjoyed writing this post but I am not surprised. I am not surprised because it was a joy to read so I assume it was a joy to write as well.
You are very wise and I suspect you will do well in life, love and friendships.
Thanks for sharing this take. I will leave you with something that it is truth and will make society better overnight if everyone agreed...
I agree with everything you said feminism, the social justice movement, and all this pc bullcrap does nothing but drive people apart it turns men against women, and people of different races against each other. A lot of feminist and sjw's are the most intolerant people I know. If you disagree with them they do nothing but label you a racist. You can't even have a civil discussion with them. The media and the government love pushing this crap because they want us all to hate each other, so we will never be united. They want us divided so they can run our lives, and destroy our species, so they can enjoy everything for themselves.
@ThisDudeHere I let you to tag empatheticlady and cinderelli on your posts because I thought you are my bro. But you're a hungry creep. You are stealing my crushes one by one.
@EmpatheticLady Well @YourFutureEx was being cheeky with me so I called him out, saying I knew he was in love with me from the very beginning, and of course there was no denying it. So now he is joining in on our little harem under the prerequisite that I win the battle royale competition.
Well duh... America sucks these days. The good-for-nothing liberals have hijacked our destiny and steered it into a roadside New Age/hippyish cry-a-thon retreat in the middle of nowhere, while advertising it as a Minsa Meeting where only the most intellectually elite reside.
Rule #1: Stop Listening To The Elitists They live in a protected bubble where the closest they ever get to a person who lives in the real world is the doorman guarding their Park Avenue penthouse. Everything is a hypothetical thought experiment to these wimps, without the hindrance of real world results throwing a monkey wrench in their flawed assumptions. Just tune them out and mock them like I do, otherwise you go crazy contemplating the Socialist hellhole they are steering us off the cliff into.
I agree with you. But actually vegans are not that annoying. Yes, some of them are, but most of the omnivores make fun of them and when vegans defend themselves, they act butthurt. I'm not a vegan, but I think that animals should not suffer for our pleasures. I think becoming vegan is better for your health and the planet. And please, no ,, bacon", ,, protein" and ,, plants have feelings" comments.
Most vegans are fascists who want everybody to become one. Also it's been proven that it's not healthier to be vegan it's just that it's an ideology (not a diet) that they have to say it is. Also there are many ways to eat all kinds of animal products without serving the industrial factory farming I mean you can promote local organic farming instead but no these people want to be fascists who comtrol the way people eat. No thanks.
@Wolfstarking that's simply not natural. Do other animals drink milk from other species? No? So why do humans do that? Meat? Do we hunt it by themselves? I mean, without weapons, with teeth and claws? Do we eat it uncooked, like meat eating animals do? It is not healthier maybe because we ate meat for thousands of years. But scientists say, that human is more similar to herbivore animals. I mean, almost identical. Saying that vegans want everyone to become one, is nothing bad, because meat and dairy farms are polluting our planet. I'm not a vegan. I want to become one.
Well said, its nice to see someone tackle this rather thorny subject. Extremists need to realise they are not helping anyone, they just making things worst with their intolerant attitudes. We all have differing opinions from time to time and some have strongly held views Well constructed arguments are far better than simply trying to brow beat people into agreeing with them and if that fails then they need to learn to just agree to disagree but I guess respect for others opinions is complete anathema to these people.
For example I have greatly improved my live by giving up certain things that most people won't. Things like television, mobile phone or eating animal products.
Many people will say that's too extreme, but for me I don't need those things at all. That said I have never told others that they should be doing the same.
@es20490446e Since you are not pushing that lifestyle on other people I wouldn't consider it extreme, I would more call it a matter of you exercising freedom of choice.
I'm so fed up with all the SHAMING. I'm so tired of hearing ANY term that ends in "shaming".
There are also so many topics that I never thought were an issue until social media told me it was an issue. Like public breastfeeding. Women breastfeed in public in my city all the time... since when was this an issue?
So the random, odd woman here and there has some odd experience with the odd person who doesn't accept this and it's now a national issue? And now all the women taking raunchy photos of themselves breastfeeding. Their poor children...
I'm not completely sure what you're writing about here, but I believe I'm understanding the gist of what you're attempting to say, but just to be sure let me cut to the heart of the issue.
Are you speaking out against those who'd want to post or write anything they wish and are screaming against those on GAG who'd report, delete, or shout individuals down for writing what they feel they must or want to?
If that's not the case, then what are you protesting against? You speaking out against people in society who do this and aren't satisfied with just having their point of view heard, or do you feel they believe they're opinion is the only ones that matter, therefore, they strive to silence anyone else who has or voices an opinion or opposite view?
I'm speaking out against the ladder, not again the people who genuinely have the ability to conduct themselves logically.
By all means if you wanna be a member of MGTOW that's fine, but the group is largely supported by hate culture, it's the same with feminazis: their goal is essentially hate driven, and no matter how you paint it I can't get behind that. My point is that both of these movements could potentially have messages that help people, and make a difference, but they instead take a self serving, loathing and unproductive approach that ultimately benefits no one.
Hopefully that makes sense. My take isn't intended to take away anybody's right to feel or think how they want, but it does criticize how they go about it.
Individuals are not always rational individuals, even when they believe they are doing the right things for the right reasons. I can get behind someone's opinion to believe whatever they wish to believe, but not to suppress another's right to say or believe what they desire. If a person or a group is trying to make changes, but they are doing it in a negative, self-serving, manner they that's just as much compounding the error as trying to silence those who disagree with you.
I get what you're saying now, but so long as forums and panel groups give these groups and individuals a pulpit to shout they're annoyances then how would you suggest changing anything they are doing?
I get what you're saying, and I don't expect the likes of me alone and my writing to necessarily stop that. But just like these people, I am lucky enough to have a platform where I can challenge people to try and take a more positive and beneficial approach to things instead of doing what they are doing. I'd never try to remove anybody's right to feel how they feel, regardless of my snazzy title here. It's ultimately up to whoever reads this to decide if that's what they want to do.
I believe firmly though that if enough people speak out about it and at least try to inspire others that at least small changes can be made to benefit the world, much more change than sitting silently and accepting it will.
Personally, I respect what you're trying to accomplish, but I also believe very little overall will change, because we've allowed ourselves to be under the illusion that what we say matters and that we have a right to say it. We did this to ourselves when we gave groups and governments the power to censor what we say and do or what we don't want to do, and we give forums the power to edit what we say, because that's our opinion or thoughts, or feelings. Even GAG is guilty of this. If someone posts something others don't like or it believes it is too explicit, then the subject matter is removed. I disagree with this. If something offends you, then you should have the right and power to voice out against it or simply ignore it, but when any group, forum, or government has the power to simply remove it... or in the case of the press... dictate what can and cannot be printed, then we have lost something very fundamental to what it means to be a sentient being. We've lost our voice.
:) You're most welcome. Anytime. I appreciate a good debate. I once heard it said that if people do nothing----then nothing ever changes. However, if people don't talk---then people never change.
I'm supprised (on other posts aswell)... to see so many women against these feminsazi/SJW's... its great to know because from what i see on twitter and those amazing SJW owned complications.. it get the impression most women are exactly those 2 things...
Agreed! Extremism is in a negative way silly and dumb. I was a MGTOW once until I tossed that label away because of this exact reason: I do not want to interpret, that I am a woman-hating misogynist - as the loudest of the group would do. I'm glad I got out of there in time. Blaming penises or vaginas is not rational and doesn't make any sense today.
Extremism has never done anything good and never will.
This is an awesome take As for the veganism , it sucks. I am vegetarian but I was one since I was born and I hate it. I never really tried to make anyone go vegan or vegetarian. Its the contrary for me. I helped vegans quit their stupid ideas cause that is idiotic.
You're mostly right. People SEEK being offended these days. Some people are thrill seekers, some love sex, and others aren't happy unless they find something to be offended by and to be righteous about.
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Interesting. This is one of the best things I've ever read on feminazis. MGTOW I know a little bit about. I think there are quite a few guys in that group like you described. However I think there are definitely others who like the group for other reasons like they enjoy being independent and not committing to marriage. Which is perfectly acceptable. Some men enjoy being single, and avoiding the difficulties and responsibilities of marriage/ finding someone and want to live the way they prefer. I don't think that makes them any less "manly" than a guy in a relationship. So while quite a few may be I don't think everyone in there hates women or is misogynistic. I think some are more against the concept of marriage and prefer being single.
So, you think that by crapping on everyone you're automatically correct?
That is exactly what it boils down to after reading it all. Some of what you said is right, but other points were childish. For example, when you were talking about MGTOW all you did was make fun of its members and say bs about it because 'hurr I'm not included in the exclusive club'. Literally none of what you said was valid. The whole point of it is that it's for men who want to check out of social norms and don't want anything to do with women. Basically men that want to stay single, period. Yet you turned it into something about demonizing women. WTF?
I'm not even part of the group, I don't really care for social movements and clubs. However, I hate it when people spread lies and misinformation.
I don't think you got the irony where I "made fun" of the MGTOW movement lol. I put the caption under it to point out that this insulting way of referring to their group is just as bad as attavking women and feminists as a whole. It was supposed to be ironic, not literal. My take seeks to challenge a negative perspective for the betterment of everyone, but my word isn't the word of God, so take why you can from it.
No I got it, you tried to put it in the same category as what Feminists look like when they are 'insulted'. Except your statement had no validity whatsoever.
The thing about irony is that it has to be something true otherwise you're just pulling stuff out your a.
What you're really doing is false equivalence.
If you say so sir. Lol.
You really need to focuss on yourself instead of raging on a bunch of extremist people who wasted your time while you were writing all this. This is exactly what they want. Attention. an open podium were there thoughts and ideas are being discussed by someone who's clearly mad. I live my life by the' not a single fuck was given that day' quote. Works fine for me. U dont like the way i dress, ooh well fine. U dont like my beard well i didn't grow it for u. U dont like the way i work, i dont care. Just keep doing whatever the F you want. Anyway the feminazis. That was a great part !
I don't feel like I raged at all in this take. I Made an effort to put it together in as positive as a way as I could. Sure, the title was harsh and I made some crass remarks, but that's just my nature.
I also would like to say I wasn't mad at all writing this take, I enjoyed myself a lot actually.
@RJGraveyTrain
I am glad that you enjoyed writing this post but I am not surprised. I am not surprised because it was a joy to read so I assume it was a joy to write as well.
You are very wise and I suspect you will do well in life, love and friendships.
Thanks for sharing this take. I will leave you with something that it is truth and will make society better overnight if everyone agreed...
Offense is never given; offense is taken.
Lulz.
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Lmao.
I agree with everything you said feminism, the social justice movement, and all this pc bullcrap does nothing but drive people apart it turns men against women, and people of different races against each other. A lot of feminist and sjw's are the most intolerant people I know. If you disagree with them they do nothing but label you a racist. You can't even have a civil discussion with them. The media and the government love pushing this crap because they want us all to hate each other, so we will never be united. They want us divided so they can run our lives, and destroy our species, so they can enjoy everything for themselves.
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I thought this was the 2015 edition and that the 2016 one was bigger.
@ThisDudeHere This one is 2016 pocket edition 😅
I stand corrected.
@ThisDudeHere of course you do.
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I couldn't tell if this was in support of my take or straight up making fun of me. Lol.
Either way it's funny.
Both!
Lmao let's be honest here @YourFutureEx, let's not play games anymore...
It's clear you're in love with me, and I totally understand, I'm amazing. That's why you talk aboot me and come to my posts, isn't it? ;P
It is true, he messages me all the time, telling me how infatuated he is with you. 100% legit #fulltruth
@ThisDudeHere I knew it all along.
I thought I was good at it 😵
Did ThisDudeHere tell you in PM? Only he knew.
@ThisDudeHere YOU 😠 I trusted you :'(
I am an untrustworthy sob, so f u
*ded*
Did you dieded?
@ThisDudeHere I did but I'm back.
Oh, so you undieded
@ThisDudeHere I let you to tag empatheticlady and cinderelli on your posts because I thought you are my bro. But you're a hungry creep. You are stealing my crushes one by one.
RJ - Don't get wrong. My love true, but I have other intentions too
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@ThisDudeHere Yes I undieded.
So @YourFutureEx when are we getting married?
You have to win the #BATTLEROYALE for that. I want to kill my enemy and it's the only way.
@YourFutureEx dayum, you uncovered my intentions media.tumblr.com/.../...line_mmwy7j1EGy1qz4rgp.gif
@RJGraveyTrain since the dogs are out now, wanna get to know each other? 8)
@ThisDudeHere LOL
Then I will win it so that our love can be eternal.
@ThisDudeHere Oh god why always me 😭
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RJ - Oh and yes, you have to block TDH too. I don't want to raise his children.
@YourFutureEx oh you don't mind that I'm in a full-lesbo relationship with @EmpatheticLady as well do you?
@ThisDudeHere
Lmaoooooo. What is this conversation that I walked into? XD
RJ, babeh. <3 Minez.
I actually prefer this tbh. This is one of the reasons for the ignition of my firestorm of love for you. 💕
@EmpatheticLady Well @YourFutureEx was being cheeky with me so I called him out, saying I knew he was in love with me from the very beginning, and of course there was no denying it. So now he is joining in on our little harem under the prerequisite that I win the battle royale competition.
Ok imma gonna step outta dis one. Getting a tad bit too confusing.
So unless there's gonna be a foursome, attā un visu labu.
@ThisDudeHere Peace out trout.
@ThisDudeHere foursome? Fuck you. I know you want a bukakke. They're girls, they can't ejaculate. Go fulfil your fantasies somewhere else.
RJ - This time, it's personal.
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I really want to show that admin that once again I'm right & he's wrong. YourFutureEx never loses.
You shade tossin' little whore lmao.
I'll have you know, half of these people who commented don't follow me. Lmao.
I'm just an excellent take writer. *hairflip*
Of course you are. And your teammates too. Your team is overwhelmingly powerful.
I can't think of any male editor who could beat your team. You won it before the contest even started.
But I'm doing my best too. I posted on every take from your team. Your victory is my victory.
D'awww I knew our love was true.
Holy shit
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Well duh... America sucks these days. The good-for-nothing liberals have hijacked our destiny and steered it into a roadside New Age/hippyish cry-a-thon retreat in the middle of nowhere, while advertising it as a Minsa Meeting where only the most intellectually elite reside.
Rule #1: Stop Listening To The Elitists
They live in a protected bubble where the closest they ever get to a person who lives in the real world is the doorman guarding their Park Avenue penthouse. Everything is a hypothetical thought experiment to these wimps, without the hindrance of real world results throwing a monkey wrench in their flawed assumptions. Just tune them out and mock them like I do, otherwise you go crazy contemplating the Socialist hellhole they are steering us off the cliff into.
I agree with you. But actually vegans are not that annoying. Yes, some of them are, but most of the omnivores make fun of them and when vegans defend themselves, they act butthurt. I'm not a vegan, but I think that animals should not suffer for our pleasures. I think becoming vegan is better for your health and the planet. And please, no ,, bacon", ,, protein" and ,, plants have feelings" comments.
Yeah I referred primarily to internet vegan personalities here.
I know 😃
Most vegans are fascists who want everybody to become one. Also it's been proven that it's not healthier to be vegan it's just that it's an ideology (not a diet) that they have to say it is. Also there are many ways to eat all kinds of animal products without serving the industrial factory farming I mean you can promote local organic farming instead but no these people want to be fascists who comtrol the way people eat. No thanks.
@Wolfstarking that's simply not natural. Do other animals drink milk from other species? No? So why do humans do that? Meat? Do we hunt it by themselves? I mean, without weapons, with teeth and claws? Do we eat it uncooked, like meat eating animals do? It is not healthier maybe because we ate meat for thousands of years. But scientists say, that human is more similar to herbivore animals. I mean, almost identical. Saying that vegans want everyone to become one, is nothing bad, because meat and dairy farms are polluting our planet.
I'm not a vegan. I want to become one.
Well said, its nice to see someone tackle this rather thorny subject. Extremists need to realise they are not helping anyone, they just making things worst with their intolerant attitudes. We all have differing opinions from time to time and some have strongly held views Well constructed arguments are far better than simply trying to brow beat people into agreeing with them and if that fails then they need to learn to just agree to disagree but I guess respect for others opinions is complete anathema to these people.
Sometimes what seems extremist is right, what never is right is ranting about it.
@es20490446e I can't agree with that.
Unless you are talking about an extremist's point of view and how they could possibly see what most people consider reasonable as extreme.
For example I have greatly improved my live by giving up certain things that most people won't. Things like television, mobile phone or eating animal products.
Many people will say that's too extreme, but for me I don't need those things at all. That said I have never told others that they should be doing the same.
@es20490446e Since you are not pushing that lifestyle on other people I wouldn't consider it extreme, I would more call it a matter of you exercising freedom of choice.
Ha, love this article.
I'm so fed up with all the SHAMING. I'm so tired of hearing ANY term that ends in "shaming".
There are also so many topics that I never thought were an issue until social media told me it was an issue. Like public breastfeeding. Women breastfeed in public in my city all the time... since when was this an issue?
So the random, odd woman here and there has some odd experience with the odd person who doesn't accept this and it's now a national issue? And now all the women taking raunchy photos of themselves breastfeeding. Their poor children...
I'm tired of everything becoming an issue...
Extremely well said. :)
For me, one word has become my gospel, and I've used it around here before- Balance.
Yessir, yessir!
You basically said everything I think about when I come across members of your highlighted groups. Loved it! 🍾😜💟
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I'm not completely sure what you're writing about here, but I believe I'm understanding the gist of what you're attempting to say, but just to be sure let me cut to the heart of the issue.
Are you speaking out against those who'd want to post or write anything they wish and are screaming against those on GAG who'd report, delete, or shout individuals down for writing what they feel they must or want to?
If that's not the case, then what are you protesting against? You speaking out against people in society who do this and aren't satisfied with just having their point of view heard, or do you feel they believe they're opinion is the only ones that matter, therefore, they strive to silence anyone else who has or voices an opinion or opposite view?
I'm speaking out against the ladder, not again the people who genuinely have the ability to conduct themselves logically.
By all means if you wanna be a member of MGTOW that's fine, but the group is largely supported by hate culture, it's the same with feminazis: their goal is essentially hate driven, and no matter how you paint it I can't get behind that. My point is that both of these movements could potentially have messages that help people, and make a difference, but they instead take a self serving, loathing and unproductive approach that ultimately benefits no one.
Hopefully that makes sense. My take isn't intended to take away anybody's right to feel or think how they want, but it does criticize how they go about it.
Individuals are not always rational individuals, even when they believe they are doing the right things for the right reasons. I can get behind someone's opinion to believe whatever they wish to believe, but not to suppress another's right to say or believe what they desire. If a person or a group is trying to make changes, but they are doing it in a negative, self-serving, manner they that's just as much compounding the error as trying to silence those who disagree with you.
I get what you're saying now, but so long as forums and panel groups give these groups and individuals a pulpit to shout they're annoyances then how would you suggest changing anything they are doing?
I get what you're saying, and I don't expect the likes of me alone and my writing to necessarily stop that. But just like these people, I am lucky enough to have a platform where I can challenge people to try and take a more positive and beneficial approach to things instead of doing what they are doing. I'd never try to remove anybody's right to feel how they feel, regardless of my snazzy title here. It's ultimately up to whoever reads this to decide if that's what they want to do.
I believe firmly though that if enough people speak out about it and at least try to inspire others that at least small changes can be made to benefit the world, much more change than sitting silently and accepting it will.
But that is just me personally.
Personally, I respect what you're trying to accomplish, but I also believe very little overall will change, because we've allowed ourselves to be under the illusion that what we say matters and that we have a right to say it. We did this to ourselves when we gave groups and governments the power to censor what we say and do or what we don't want to do, and we give forums the power to edit what we say, because that's our opinion or thoughts, or feelings. Even GAG is guilty of this. If someone posts something others don't like or it believes it is too explicit, then the subject matter is removed. I disagree with this. If something offends you, then you should have the right and power to voice out against it or simply ignore it, but when any group, forum, or government has the power to simply remove it... or in the case of the press... dictate what can and cannot be printed, then we have lost something very fundamental to what it means to be a sentient being. We've lost our voice.
That's understandable and I totally get that. Thanks nonetheless for commenting and talking with me.
:) You're most welcome. Anytime. I appreciate a good debate. I once heard it said that if people do nothing----then nothing ever changes. However, if people don't talk---then people never change.
That is a very good saying.
It truly is. I agree.
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I'm supprised (on other posts aswell)... to see so many women against these feminsazi/SJW's... its great to know because from what i see on twitter and those amazing SJW owned complications.. it get the impression most women are exactly those 2 things...
Personally don't have twitter, tumbler or any other social media. Only keep Facebook because of family.
Agreed!
Extremism is in a negative way silly and dumb.
I was a MGTOW once until I tossed that label away because of this exact reason: I do not want to interpret, that I am a woman-hating misogynist - as the loudest of the group would do. I'm glad I got out of there in time. Blaming penises or vaginas is not rational and doesn't make any sense today.
Extremism has never done anything good and never will.
But yeah, everything is correct =)
This is an awesome take
As for the veganism , it sucks. I am vegetarian but I was one since I was born and I hate it. I never really tried to make anyone go vegan or vegetarian. Its the contrary for me. I helped vegans quit their stupid ideas cause that is idiotic.
You're mostly right. People SEEK being offended these days. Some people are thrill seekers, some love sex, and others aren't happy unless they find something to be offended by and to be righteous about.
Yes, thank you. Now if only those that do this actually try to have an open mind and do something...
That last gif with the guy and Chloe girl morphed tripped me up for a sec haha. Side eyeing Chloe is me
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You have given me ideas on to what write about next. Solid take. 😊
Glad to hear it, link me to it when it's done.