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Thanks, anonymous. Statistics is the only field you can have two experts take the same data and find exactly opposite conclusions. It's all bullshit. I'm sorry, but when the fuck did we start having to compete to exist? Men are absolutely wonderful, and needed. So are women. Good hell, for all the men on this site that are looking for women and vice versa, that should be obvious. We are both complimentary, and necessary. We are nit this artificial competition between sexes. Anybody male or female, with any sense, can see and appreciate that.
@HaveQuestions Oh please, you women started this gender war and we will finish it.
No. Nobody will finish anything. That's the entire point. I didn't start the war. A select group of loud, under informed people did. We all lose this "war." The point is, the "war" is fucking stupid. There is no war. Never has been. If you're so offended and moved by a small group of overly loud people, I have news for you. The entire population loses.
@HaveQuestions There is a war against men/boys and the entire society is a part of it. And yet feminists keep crying how they're being treated like second-class citizen when they are LITERALLY the most priviliged people in the western world.
It's disgusting and funny thing is women don't give a fuck. There's a reason why Trump won, because he's the only hope for men.
Lmao... I am not a feminist. I am a female. Big fucking difference. Trump won because a few loud groups on both sides ignored what the majority of the population thinks. I'm not part of any war against men. I'm part of a war on willful ignorance, no matter who is espousing it. I absolutely hate being female and included in the small minority who espoused ridiculous diatribes they don't even understand. Please don't lump us all in together. I'll give you the same courtesy. There are plenty of women and men who are for both genders.
@HaveQuestions It doesn't matter if you're a feminist or not, the ENTIRE SOCIETY is against men/boys, and you must be really blind if you don't see it.
Nah, lmao. You're only out of bounds because I told you, I do see it. Not all women are against men. Seriously. I am far from blind. And, holy fuck, it DOES matter if I'm a modern feminist or not. I am female. Does not in any way imply I am feminist by today's standards. That is precisely the damn problem. You can't/won't hear me, because I'm female. Guess what? There are many many females who don't like the current feminist propaganda. I'm among them. I am for males. And females. And humans. Crqxy, I know, lmaoooo. Can we talk? Or can't we? That's a bigger tell than any stupid title or alliance with group.
&crazy again, thank you autocorrect
@HaveQuestions And yet no one is doing a goddamn thing to stop this slaughter against men. You've made your own bed, now you're gonna have to sleep alone in it.
Men are trying to talk but get shut down immediately by society, so what the heck are we supposed to do?
No. I haven't made my fucking bed. I am here... trying like hell to have you, and me, heard. I am listening. And I am doing. I have my boys that I work with, 140 IQ, but yet throw 4 in metal bolts at my head when angry. Guess what? I fight for them just like I fight for females. I am not your enemy. Sorry to disappoint.
People are, I am, doing things to counteract. I'd love your support.
@HaveQuestions More and more men withdraw from society altogether, and it's going to be funny to see how the world burns when society and women in general start panicking.
I have nothing against you, but the damage is already done and unavoidable.
It's no where close to unavoidable. That's a cop-out. It's not funny. It's bad. Very bad.
@HaveQuestions Well, too bad there's nothing we can do because society is racing towards just that to happen.
Oh, I know. There's plenty we can do, though.
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Sorry but men are in fact smarter and more capable than women, just because both genders are needed does not make them equal. Society discriminates against men because for equality to be achieved they need to bring men down to the level of women. It all started happening the moment women got to vote unfortunately, since women are typically the majority population of a society due to living slightly longer and having fewer work fatalities due to having less dangerous jobs on average, womens votes becomes something politicians have to cater to, and women almost always vote for handouts for themselves while not really caring about true equality. So western society will continue to move into collapse as men become less and less productive. Women cannot replace men in workforce because they cannot produce the same ammount of wealth that men can, and the welfare budget and help programs will run out of money very soon when there are less and less men around to tax
@Topek looking back in history look at how guys treated women like crap for a long time. I do not agree that women or guys should be put down. You did not mention anything about how much crap women went through. By your way of thinking that society as a whole is against men/boys of whom are part of society so they would be against themselves. It would not be just women who are against them. Not all men and women are against the other.
@alphadoggystyle This is exactly what i've been telling people what you just described, and their only response is: "You're a 'MISOGYNIST!"
@HaveQuestions "Men are absolutely wonderful, and needed. So are women"
Since when? Since when are all or even most people any wonderful?
@alphadoggystyle men are in fact smarter and more capable? No. There is a thing called a bell curve for both genders, in intelligence and capability. It applies equally. Saying what you did is the root of the problem, just like it is when women say it. Your entire rant is exactly what you say you hate.
@ad48hp oh, I've seen more than my fair share of the brutality of people. On the whole, both are wonderful. And needed. I'm not going to give up on the entire species because there are some bad, that's ridiculous.
I don't believe you're a misogynist. Misanthrope, maybe. But mostly just angry, loud, and underinformed.
@MysteriousDarkness thank you. No, not all men and women are against each other. And society as a whole will lose when they place them as enemies.
@HaveQuestions sorry but no, the evidence prove that men are smarter than women on average, i only care about facts here, and the facts prove me right, and you wrong.
@alphadoggystyle lmao, great. I'm glad you're only interested in facts. So then, please. Go ahead and list your peer reviewed sources to back your claims.
You can't because there are none. Here is a great (albeit short) summary of the applicable research to date. It ends with this resoundingly accurate statement: "perhaps the whole issue becomes so politically charged that it is virtually impossible to have a rational debate."
Oh, and if it makes you feel better about reading it, it's written by a man. www.psychologytoday.com/.../are-men-really-more-intelligent-women
@HaveQuestions the sole link you posted does not refute all the evidence posted in the OP, The evidence is overwhelming, men are more intelligent than women on average. its fact.
@alphadoggystyle lol, overwhelming? That was the entire point of the article. That people who claim it is "overwhelming" are dead wrong, and it couldn't be farther from true.
It is amazing to me, that you insist on keeping using the exact same tactic you say is the flaw of the group you are against. Yell, scream, pick and choose evidence that is convenient, ignore evidence that is not. Here you are, doing the exact same thing. "I don't agree with you because! Just because! Evidence, and blah, blah, blah, evidence and yeah! Because!" It's too bad.
You do realize that is the most fatal flaw of any researcher or consumer of research? Research works with with null and alternative hypotheses. You're already wrong the minute you claim something has been "proven." I'd be great if people, MEN and WOMEN both, could stop bring so lazy and actually read, and think.
@HaveQuestions the people who claim it is overwhelming, are deadly correct. its you who are dead wrong, so is the person writing the article you posted. I haven't yelled at all, im typing on a computer but apparantly you are to stupid to realize that. And i dont pick evidence, i can with common sense (which you and the group you mentioned lack) see that the evidence posted in the OP is credible while your article is not. The only one here who was wrong, was you, not me. And by the way, if you are trying to argue that nothing can be proven, then any sort of discussions regarding scientific findings would be null, we always have to go with the present evidence. And currently the evidence shows as that men are smarter. So its a fact based on current evidence that men are smarter. We also see the same results all over the world, so dont expect these results to ever change in any meaningful way.
@alphadoggystyle again, I am laughing so damn hard at this response. Okay, sure. The guy who wrote that article, a summary of all the relevant issues and current research, who has written over 1100 scientific papers and 75 books, who has taught all over the world, yep. He's full of shit, and not credible, because you don't like him. The group I mentioned? The American Psychological Association? You think they're completely full of shit too? Nooooo, definitely not credible to conduct research. Lmao... see, this is the problem. You're not "yelling," and yet you cannot make it through 1000 words without calling me names? Trying any kind of ad hominem attack on me you can come up with, just because you can't back your claim any other way? It's absurd. No, that's not even close to what a null and alternative hypothesis mean. And no, that's not how accurate interpretation of results happens. I'd be happy to talk through it, but I'm guessing you'd tell me I'm full of shit and not credible.
@alphadoggystyle if you are going to simply insist that you are right, no matter what, and you think somehow that telling everyone around you who knows what they are talking about that they aren't "credible" simply because you don't like them, I am afraid that you are proving your own point very damn wrong. Is it intelligent to refuse to learn? To refuse to read other evidence that is credible and contradicts yours? Is it intelligent to call people names? Sorry, but your own behavior in this conversation is otherwise. Science, intelligence, is about seeking answers, even if you might not like them. Being open to new information, and assimilating it. Not burning it to the ground because "I don't like you, so you're not credible." Quit the damn tantrum long enough to have a halfway reasonable conversation. You, and I might be able to learn something. That's my entire goal. Learning what has happened to bring about attitudes and positions like yours. And what to actually do.
@HaveQuestions Could you point out where i called you "a name"? I do think there are some bad words suited for someone like you but i haven't said them yet. And it doesn't matter how credible that person is, he didn't pick a side of the argument, he just avoided it for the same reason politicians avoid that topic. Its controversial, and since the evidence clearly shows men are more intelligent than women people have a lot to lose by talking about it, which is why people avoid it, to avoid being targeted by feminists.
@HaveQuestions The problem here is that you actually didn't bring any evidence at all that refutes anything written by the OP, the evidence in the OP is overwhelming and established and proves my stance correct, that men are smarter than women. And the only thing you could argue with was a post from a psychologist who only looked briefly at the evidence and didn't do any tests himself on the intelligence differences between the genders. So no you didn't bring anything of value, unless you have anything else to bring to the table, you clearly lost this debate and we can conclude men are smarter on average than women, based on the evidence we have. Case closed. And if you cannot accept that fact, then you have proven that you actually dont want to learn, which also would make you a liar.
@HaveQuestions and although the Ops evidence is enough to prove me correct, here is some other evidence.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbMRmtEoS0&t=1675s
If you truly want to learn then look through that video.
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Women ;)
we are both smart