Problems with the Misandrists in the Feminism Movement and Misogynists in the MRA Movement

[Discovery98]

There is a massive issue that has taken shape in the Feminist Movement and to a lesser extent the MRA Movement. These movements are often seen as hating the other sex when the majority of their members do not actually do so. This is because those majorities are failing in suppressing their radical groups. How is an uninformed layperson supposed to know Feminists are not actually man hating or that MRA's do not actually hate women if the other members of those groups do not denounce radicals?

If you are part of a group and someone is fundamentally misrepresenting the group you have a responsibility to renounce that person and reassert your group's intended goals. When someone says I'm a feminist and then says something misandrist letting it stand means allowing that person's message to represent you.

If you want to keep radicals from destroying the reputation of a group you are in then you must denounce the radicals with measured and polite explanations of why they are misrepresenting the group. A couple radicals with only a couple half-hearted "no that's not what we are about" statements to opposing them will do severe damage to your group's reputation.

They can't do any damage and may inadvertently help you defeat them if instead it's a couple radicals and 5-6 well-written denouncements with explanations about the true nature of your group and 50 other people agreeing with those denouncements. If you don't want feminism and Men's right advocacy to be seen as hateful to men and women respectively, you need to start denouncing people who hurt your group through misrepresentation.

[madhatters4]

a good point. but easier said than done. pointing out a man-hating feminist for woman hating MRA doesn't mean that person can't go on to continue to misrepresent the ideology of a movement.

but i do firmly agree that those radicals do a lot of harm to the overall cause and message of the MRA and feminist movements

[madhatters4]

thanks for MHO

[Anonymous]

What do these people actually do? I only see them on social media, but in real life people are just normal, carrying on with their lives.

[NatashaJ]

Thank you and why are we letting a dumbass with an opinion online change the view of the group? Sure there some fuck up "feminists" out there but I notice most of these femi-nazis don't even do anything so how are they such a problem in society if literal everyone (including feminists) don't agree with their views?

[Opinion Owner]

@NatashaJ they bully people online though and spread false info. So they do have online power.

[NatashaJ]

online doesn't mean anything report them and block them done.

[Opinion Owner]

@NatashaJ I can't because I don't own the internet

[NatashaJ]

Ik but if they are such a issue more sites should block them off

[FakeName123]

Anyone who does their homework realises that not only modern day feminism, but at least since the 60s movement is vile, toxic and man-hating. All you have to do is read quotes of famous feminists of their time.

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” ~Robin Morgan

“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” ~Valerie Solanas

“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” ~Andrea Dworkin

“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” ~Susan Brownmiller

“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” ~Catherine MacKinnon

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” ~Sally Miller Gearhart

“All men are rapists and that’s all they are” ~Marilyn French

“I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damanged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop. I mean, we women are more reasonable. We pop one follicle every 28 days, whereas they are producing 400 million sperm for each ejaculation, most of which don’t take place anywhere near an ovum. I don’t know that the ecosphere can tolerate it.” ~Germaine Greer

“The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together…. Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process…. No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children… Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people’s needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labor, or any external roles, at all.” ~Linda Gordon

[RedHood7]

"If you are part of a group and someone is fundamentally misrepresenting the group you have a responsibility to renounce that person and reassert your group's intended goals. When someone says I'm a feminist and then says something misandrist letting it stand means allowing that person's message to represent you."

"If you want to keep radicals from destroying the reputation of a group you are in then you must denounce the radicals with measured and polite explanations of why they are misrepresenting the group. A couple radicals with only a couple half-hearted "no that's not what we are about" statements to opposing them will do severe damage to your group's reputation."

Best part of the text, although I disagree with the last image.

[Crapulux]

You got it wrong. Modern feminists do hate men, but they hate women who disagree with them a lot more. Case in point:

Feminist: spews bullshit about rape...
Woman: Well, I've been raped, and you got it all wrong. This is how it goes (explains hard facts)
Feminist: "Oh, it's just an anecdote." (resumes her previous bullshit)

[Tanairy328]

That's from Blair white and Laci Greens chat video right?

[Crapulux]

@Tanairy328 Yeah, that kinda hurt to watch, yet it was quite enlightning...

[Barrabus_the_Free]

Feminism, or hatepigism as I saw it referred to and liked since it's more accurate, has always been about hating men. Those self-identifying feminists that don't hate men are naive to the truth of their cause.

MRA's don't hate women. They hate the System that allows women to rob and abuse men on a whim. But they are just like feminists in that they insist on whining, bitching, pissing, and moaning about their rights.

[Anonymous]

Radical feminists are not the biggest problem with feminism. Well, they are, but only indirectly. Those so called feminiazis are just a scapegoat. No feminist actually considers herself a feminiazi, but every feminist points her finger at the infamous feminazis and claims THEY are the real problem with the movement but never actually thinks to pick up a mirror and see the real problem with feminism. It's a diversion that gets in the way of true self reflection and a critical analysis of of their own views and biases.

The real problems with feminism are dishonesty, entitlement and victim mentality, all of which lead to a very unrealistic and gynocentric definition of "equality".

[Opinion Owner]

And let's be honest about the fact that MRAs are nothing but a reaction to the problems with feminism. When feminism goes away, so will MRAs.

[Unit1]

cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...2-8659-34f54b2b1eb5.jpg

That's very ridiculous! Let me fix that for you!

♂ > ♀ = MGTOW, MRA, Misogynists
♀ > ♂ = Feminism (in the first world countries), Misandrists
♂ = ♀ or ♀ = ♂ === Egalitarian

[RedHood7]

MRAs are hardly misogynists and MGTOWs are offensive at worst, they're mostly just not willing to have a relationship.

[Unit1]

@RedHood7 Neither are all feminists misandrists. There is actually a need for feminism in the third world countries, where women are still viewed as objects and properties and assets. Women can't even drive there. Every culture has their fair share of extremists.

[RedHood7]

@Unit1 feminism hangs on hate and fear. It, as a broad and larger movement, needs to hate on western cukture, needs to hate on judeo-christian values, needs to hate on men and treat us as opressive by nature, needs to spread lies about the 'wage gap' and about 'rape culture'... The average feminist isn't really into reading much of what the main feminist activists said/believed on/proposed to society. What the average main feminist is able to do is label anyone who disagrees with feminism on any level a 'misogynist pig'. Feminism tied itself to social conquests that are not it's own and now the average useful idiot is unable to discern between hate and defense against "bigotry". I dont make the case that this is mere stupidity, I make the case that this is intentional. There is no politcal interest in a confident and well-educated social class doing it's own thing, but there is a political interest in claiming women are eternal victims of the oppressive and all-encompassing patriarchy.

[RedHood7]

@Unit1 third world countries is a very broad definition, and I think you should use it carefully. Brazil is a 3rd world country still, and we are hardly oppressive. The only thing oppressive about Brazil is criminality and the government's predatory keynesianism.

[RedHood7]

@Unit1 just realized you also didn't understand one thing about my comment: I didn't say 'not all MRAs are misogynists', I said there are few misogynists in the MRAs. Which is something that cannot be said about feminism.

[GARY-]

I see no problems within the MRA movement & I've yet to met a rational feminist who can give me a reason as to why he/she is feminist.

Also, that ridiculous image you placed at the end isn't accurate at all. I'll fix it for you.

Man > Woman (Mysogynist)
Man < Woman (*Feminist)
Man = Woman (Egalitarian)

[Unit1]

Exactly what I was thinking but instead of Misogynist I'd put in either MRA or MGTOW.

[GARY-]

That wouldn't make any sense since MRA and MGTOW are not mysogynist at their core. Only Feminism comes up with nonsense such as #Mansplaning to attack men for having an opinion.

[Anonymous]

Your last poster is nonsense. Feminist do NOT believe in =
At it's core feminism is a hate group. The loudest and most famous voices (dworkins, solanas, steinem, koss, greer, etc.) were all misandrist.
NOW and WAR have spewed lies and suppress male issues.

It isn't the "femnazi's"... it's the feminist.

[Skylar_williams]

Feminism is the belief that women and men are equal and should be treated as such. No hate.

[Straightedge_Atheist]

@Skylar_williams
Then why do feminists say things like "kill all white men" and say all men are potential rapists? And why do you feminists want to get rid of anything manly? You want to ban toys for boys, ban the boy scouts, ban father's day, remake movies that were all male with a female cast, teach men that masculinity is "sexist".

[Skylar_williams]

@Straightedge_Atheist you must be trolling.

[Straightedge_Atheist]

@Skylar_williams
Why because you don't like facts or anything that makes the feminist movement look bad?
Feminist calls for women to kill male babies and men:
www.thesun.co.uk/.../

SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto by valerie solanas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto

Need I say more? But go ahead and deflect by using the troll card.

[Opinion Owner]

@Skylar_williams You can quote the definition for days... the actions of feminism is what make the group what it is. And feminism is a hate group... at its core.
I can have a group called "complete happiness" but if I go around being a prick to everyone then the definition doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

There's nowhere near as many feminists or MRA's in the real world as they claim online. I see most of this shit mostly just online. There's a bit of a feminist presence in college (no surprise as the vast majority at college are women) but in just about every other place in real life people are neither.

[Muglintar]

'#killallmen - is all i need to know about feminism. Third wave feminism is not about equality, but about establishing and securing superiority.

[John_Doesnt]

The MGTOW is stupid because all the men are whiny. The feminism movement is only stupid in America because women have equal rights here. Feminism still belongs in the rest of the world though.

[Unit1]

It's not equal if the man highly risks loosing his assets in the divorce court.

[John_Doesnt]

@Unit1 it is equal because the MGTOW are just complaining about paying on a date or opening doors.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

That last graphic though... Feminism doesn't not represent equality.