5 Native Pakistanis Who Make Me Proud Of My Pakistani Heritage

[SpiderManFan2002]

So, another fightback MyTake from me as I like to call it. It is no secret lots of immense corruption goes on in Pakistan, disgusting corruption. That does not make me proud at all and I am ashamed of those people who commit such atrocities. But that doesn't make me ashamed to be Pakistani.

Somebody said to someone else about me: "I want that @SpiderManFan2002 girl to read this MyTake. She's so proud of her Pakistani heritage. There is nothing to be proud of. "

Nothing to be proud of? Because no good, educated, Pakistani people exist? Sure.

You've all heard about Imran Khan and Malala Yousafzai, surely. So today I'm going to write about Pakistani people who have done amazing things who you may not have heard of.

Today, I will only write about five due to time limits, but I may do a part two to this MyTake featuring more amazing people.

1. Namira Salim

This amazing woman was born in Karachi, in Pakistan. She was the first ever Pakistani person to reach the North Pole, the first ever Pakistani person to reach the South Pole, she has skydived over Mount Everest, she was the first Asian to do that as well.

Oh and she's also been titled "The first ever Pakistani Astronaut" as she has been shortlisted to travel to space as she is a member (the only Pakistani member) of Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic commercial space liner.

What a woman an amazing role model.

2. Maria Toorpakay Wazir

Surely, you've heard of the term strong woman, right? Well, this woman basically defines that term.

As I've said before it is no secret that Pakistan holds a lot of corruption. There are many people in Pakistan who are not at all progressive and in fact very backward mentalities.

This woman's dream as a little girl was to play squash and just do what she loves. And she knew being a girl in Pakistan would be a barrier towards that due to the many unprogressive people there.

So for the first 16 years of her life, she dressed up as a boy, in order to compete in sports, she used the name "Genghis Khan". Her parents were supportive of this by the way.

She defeated boys in weightlifting at the age of 12 and then turned to squash. In 2006, she stopped pretending to be a boy due to having to provide a birth certificate to play squash professionally.

In 2007 she was awarded the "Salaam Pakistan Award" by the Pakistani president of that time.

She was even threatened by the Taliban and locked herself in her house for almost three years, most likely because of fear.

But that didn't stop her in 2009 as she won third place in the world juniour women's squash championship. She was only 19 at this time.

In 2011, she moved to Canada and now resides there. In 2012 she was given the "Voice of Hope" award by the Canadian first lady of that time. Also in 2012, she was ranked Pakistan's top female squash player.

In 2013 she gave a Ted Talk with an awesome pun "squashing extremism." Squashing because she plays squash, get it? I love puns.

In 2016 she was ranked 56th in the world as a female squash player.

Again another amazing Pakistani woman who I also look up to.

3. Dr. Umar Saif

This man - who is also awesome - is a computer scientist and he studied computer science at Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS). He also received a doctorate from the University of Cambridge when he was just 22, he moved to MIT where he simultaneously taught, completed his post-doctorate degree and worked at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory as a research scientist. After that, he returned to Pakistan and taught at LUMS full-time whilst carrying out several research projects.

He was Chairman of the Punjab Information Technology Board (PITB) from:

November 2011-12 November 2018.

He's received a Digital Inclusion Reward from Microsoft in 2006, in 2008 he received a Mark Weiser reward, a Tech Pioneer award, and an MIT Technovator award, in 2014 he was awarded by the Pakistani government for his contribution in the technology and education sector, in both 2015 and 2016 his was listed as one of the "500 influential Muslims", in 2017 he was awarded a Alumni Award by the British Council, In April 2018 he was appointed United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization for using IT and communication tech for development and in May 2018 Bill Gates praised him, (Bill freaking Gates), for helping Pakistan use technology.

He was also listed by MIT as one of the top 35 innovators.

A great guy and another one of my role models.

4. Ali Moeen Nawazish

When I hear this man's name the first word that comes to mind is "Genius!" He completed 23 A-Levels in The University of Cambridge and I know a lot of you are American on here so you might not know what A-Levels are or what the big deal about completing 23 of them is, well, I'm British so let me tell me.

At the top school in my city, a grammar school, only allows you to do up to four because anything past four A-Levels gets too much for students. A-levels are studied over a two year period, and at the end of the two year period, you get about 2 or 3 exams for each subject. He was 19 when he completed these 23 A-Levels.

He obtained 22 A's. And 1 either B or C.

Whilst he was doing his 23 A-Levels he still found time to pursue his hobbies, such as cricket, table tennis, and playing the guitar and go on a trip to Havard to attend a Havard leadership course.

He would sometimes study for up to 12 hours a day.

He has also completed a master's degree in Journalism.

After he completed his 23 A-Levels, he began to work for Jang Media group (a media company in Pakistan) where he was a youth ambassador and a columnist. He used those positions to highlight issues concerning young people in Pakistan which were often ignored. He even helped design an app for the company.

Again, an awesome person and an outstanding role model.

5. Mehak Gul

She is just 19-years-old and she holds the title of "Woman Candidate Master" has won six of 11 matches at the 42nd Chess Olympiad. She is the youngest Pakistani to achieve this title. And she was 16 when she won this title.

She'd been playing chess since she was 6, and she represented Pakistan at the 40th Chess Olympiad when she was just 12!

Amazing! She's got more to show us surely and a true role model!

Conclusion:

These five people who I could think of. There are many more which I could have added but due to time limits, and me needing to write other things as well, I only have time to write about five amazing people who make me proud to be of Pakistani heritage.

I will probably write another MyTake about some more people which I didn't have time to include in this MyTake.

Let's rewind to what a certain somebody said about me: "I want that @SpiderManFan2002 girl to read this MyTake. She's so proud of her Pakistani heritage. There is nothing to be proud of."

Damn, right I am proud of my Pakistani heritage. And the people listed above, and people like the people listed above are the reason why.

There is no denying Pakistan has problems, really really vast problems with issues such as women's rights', rights of people who are not followers of the national religion (in this case Islam), sexual abuse, racism, and terrorism. But let me tell you this it's not the people that cause these problems which make proud to be of Pakistani heritage, it's people who try to solve these problems which make me proud to be of Pakistani heritage. And the people who cause these problems don't make me ashamed because they don't represent me, and I know that there are people out there such as these five people who I have written about who are trying to change this. That's why I will always be proud of my Pakistani heritage.

A lot of countries face the problems which I listed above. Even first world countries like America, the UK, France, and Canada. But does the UK having problems make me any less proud to be British? And do problems in your country make you any less proud to be a citizen of your country?

Because while there are people causing problems, there are also people trying to solve them, because they love their country firstly they don't want anyone to be mistreated unjustly, they want fairness and equality. Secondly, they don't want their country to have a bad name because of some unjust, uneducated, unfair idiots. And thirdly they don't want these unfair, unjust, uneducated idiots and sickos to have the power.

I am proud to be British and born in England.

I am proud to be of Pakistani heritage.

Because it's who I am.

This is for anybody born anywhere and of any heritage- don't be ashamed of where you are born, don't be ashamed of where you live, don't be ashamed of your heritage because if you do some digging, look beyond what the media tell you, you'll actually find there are actually some really awesome people from where you are born, where you live and natives whatever your heritage may be.

Don't let anybody tell you there is nothing to be proud of about your heritage because I guarantee you, there will be something there will be more than one thing if you look. And then whenever anyone tells you "You're so proud of your heritage. There is nothing to be proud of." Drop what there is to be proud of on them, don't submit to them and agree because they're wrong.

The world simultaneously has problems but is also a pretty awesome place.

Don't be ignorant of problems of the places in which you come from, but don't be ignorant about the awesome things or the awesome people of where you come from either.

Thank you for reading :)

[Britantic]

1. Naila Alam and Yasmeen Durrani
These two Pakistani women have been honoured by the White House for their humanitarian work. The Honour of Hope Award recipients manage a philanthropic venture called ‘Express Care’ which focuses on providing daily essentials, such as food and medicine, to low income individuals. The organisation also helps with employment.
2. Ayesha Farooq
Ayesha is Pakistan’s first ever female war-ready fighter pilot. The 26-year-old fighter, hailing from Bahawalpur, is one of the 19 women who have achieved the ranks of pilots in the Pakistan Air Force over the last decade – there are five other female fighter pilots but they have yet to take the final tests to qualify for combat.
3. Faizan Buzdar
Acknowledged by the US President Barack Obama, Buzdar’s startup ‘Convo’ has successfully launched a social network for global organisations. His innovation has led to five million dollars in funding from venture capitalists in the US, including Morgenthaler Ventures which has significant holdings in tech giants such as Apple.
Buzdar is a graduate of Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute (GIKI) of Engineering Sciences and Technology.
4. Dr Arjumand Hashmi
A Pakistani-born mayor of a town called Paris, in Texas, USA.
He has successfully created a community and inculcated a pro-Pakistani image in the Southern state that has been a hotbed of anti-Pakistan sentiments, especially during the tenure of President George W Bush Jr. He is an accomplished cardiologist and continues to run his practice as well.
5. Syed Fahad Ali
The Founder of the Aghaz School. This school is a non-political and independent organisation focusing on providing free education to underprivileged children living in the slums of Karachi. This is also a side project of the Pakistan Youth Forum.
6. Dr Naweed I Syed
Dr Syed is a globally acclaimed scientist of Pakistani origin and head of the Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy at the University of Calgary’s Hotchkiss Brain Institute in Canada. He is the first scientist to ‘connect brain cells to a silicon chip’. This is indeed a great honour for Pakistan.
Connecting brain cells to electronic chips opens up the potential to take artificial intelligence computing to the next stage and Dr Syed plays a leading role in this quest.
7. Bilal Masood
Maqsood is a student of Crossing Border Global Studies in Denmark and is also a certified trainer of the School of Leadership (SOL), Karachi. He has represented Pakistan as its youth ambassador on various platforms and is keen to bring about positive social change.
8. Mir Zafar Ali
Ali is an Oscar winner movie visual effects curator. He has given life to characters such as Venom in Spider Man 3 as well as several other Hollywood flicks such as X-Men, The Mummy. He won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects in 2007 for the movie The Golden Compass.
9. Rosheen Khan
Khan is Pakistan’s first female master scuba diver and the only Nitrox diving instructor in Pakistan. She aims to introduce positive social changes with her efforts.
10. Saba Gul
She is the Founder and CEO of Popinjay, a social enterprise that empowers marginalised underprivileged girls in Pakistan with education and provides them with employment opportunities by selling their goods (embroidered handbags currently) to a high-end market.

[Britantic]

I think your list is very light and not very impressive.
Also on Ali Moeen Nawazish uou missed out what you really should be proud of about him that he has founded an organisation called ‘StepUP Pakistan’, where they aim to train teachers and improve education in the impoverished areas of Pakistan.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Britantic Those were some great Pakistanis you also listed, who also completed some very impressive achievements. www.ilmkidunya.com/.../...-made-us-proud--225.aspx

If you read what I said in my MyTake rather than attacking me and telling me my list was unimpressive, you'd see I was under a time limit and could only list five people that I thought of and was going to make a part two to this MyTake.

And hey, at least I wrote it and didn't copy and paste it. ;)

Oh and when you achieve all these things which the five people did, without breaking a sweat, hit me up and then tell me it was unimpressive.

[Britantic]

Just trying to help if maybe you wanted to rewrite a better take. I copied and pasted 2 minutes of research on top Pakistanis.

[SpiderManFan2002]

2 minutes of research? Honey, you honestly believe I can't google? It ain't that hard.

These people are worth far more than little summaries of two minutes of research they have whole pages written about them which I take time to read and list all their great achievements, the summaries don't have everything.

It's like you're obsessed with me, to be honest. I'm not following you, I couldn't care less for what you post, but yet here you are, inviting me so desperately to answer your questions. And then you come on my posts spout all your opinions, even though I don't invite you, and you even gave someone a link to my MyTake. Thanks for helping me gain more exposure by the way. ;)

Seems like you can't seem to stay away from me, I mean you even did research for me, 2 minutes of your time dedicated to research for me. That desperate to impress me?

Always nice to have a fan, I seem to be growing a fan base on this website? I wonder what you'll call yourselves. ;P <3

[Britantic]

Stay away from you? It appeared in my feed. I gave you my opinion on your Mytake with some helpful suggestions. How are you going to be a writer when you can't take minor criticism like an adult lol.

[SpiderManFan2002]

I can take minor criticism I take it all the time, from people with no agenda. You quite blatantly have an agenda to make every person of colour look bad.

If you're not attacking Pakistanis, you're attacking the Indians, if you're not attacking the South Asians you're attacking black guys. Do you have some kind of secret obsession? Did one reject you and now you can't take it?

Lol, your obsession with people of colour is becoming really creepy.

[Britantic]

I've no problem with POC in fact I helped build a church in India last year and volunteer in a women's shelter where we help a large amount of Pakistani girls and women fleeing abusive husband's, arranged marraiges and abusive uncles.

[SpiderManFan2002]

... So when you're online you finally let all your frustrations on POC out? I get it, I get it, it being politically correct must be so hard for you ;)

[Britantic]

Being online must help you get all your frustrations out about white women and how they should stay quiet about Pakistani gang rapes.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Honey, that's not what I'm doing. Do you even read my MyTakes? I want all women and men to speak out about sexual assault, regardless of the criminal's ethnicity or gender. I want everybody heard not one group of people:

You:

Also you: *talks only about one specific race abusing another specific race rather than focusing on the crime itself and wanting everybody's voice to be heard*

Also you: *claims black guys harrass white girls while ignoring that any ethnicity can harass anyone regardless of gender and that white girls aren't the only girls who get harassed saying that, girls aren't the only people who get harassed*

And are we even going to mention your: WhAt WoUlD yOu Do FoR a ReDhEaD wItH bLuE eYeS qUeStIoN😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Do you have any idea how needy you sounded?😂😂😂😂😂

And why did you invite me to that question?😂😂😂😂😂😂

[tartaarsaus]

Those are definitely 5 Pakistanis who achieved great things.

I generally find it pretty odd to be proud of one's ethnicity, as in my opinion I have basically no connection to e. g. Einstein or all the other Jewish Nobel prize winners (there are a lot), but yeah, painting massive groups of people as crappy (like you mentioned in your MyTake) is pretty much a vast generalisation, and usually ignorant.

And I suppose I agree with the notion that describing an entire nation of people being shit is pretty generalising. I've talked to some people with a lot of knowledge about e. g. Iran, where they clearly have a lot of issues with human rights etcetera, but apparently there are lots of people who really yearn for improvement (e. g. Malala in Pakistan).

I don't feel proud about the Netherlands though, never felt any inclination to feel proud about it. I just don't really feel 'connected' to other Dutch people, at least significantly less than other Jews.

[SpiderManFan2002]

When I say "proud" I don't mean in a way where you believe you are superior. You don't even have to feel you have a connection with anyone. I mean proud he happy you're born the ethnicity you are, don't let others being you down about it because certain people of your ethnicity do bad things, know the problems your country of ethnicity face, but also know they'll be people trying to solve them.

I would never want anybody to be arrogant about it.

I don't feel connected to some of these people, I don't consider myself to be anywhere near their level, after all I'm a 16-year-old kid sat in their bedroom😂 But I do see slight similarities between us, such as I'm into computer science, I'm young, I've faced issues with being a girl in tech, not big similarities by any means, but just little little things.

Thanks for your opinion, as always ☺

[tartaarsaus]

Oh I got that you did not mean superior. It would be bad to think you're superior simply because of that (or in general). But yeah, I suppose what you said on being 'proud' makes more sense. I do some things of that (like not feeling down when others try to bring us down, which happens often).

Hahahaha okay.

You're welcome :)

[the_mad_tinkerer]

Ok, ignorant American here, so I won't comment too much on modern Pakistan, but I'll say two reasons to be proud. What was Pakistan in ancient times, before Christianity, was one of the centers of mathmatic and physics innovation. Also, the food. Like ten times the food. My friend circle includes a few friends of friends who are paki, and I go out of my way to attend a dinner party that they are cooking at. Pakistan for the win. by the way, thanks for the insight into these great people. I love all of them.

[Edanurus]

Firstly the term paki is basically the N word so I'd be careful using it.

Also Pakistan's only about 70 years old so it would be a little hard for it to produce anything in ancient times.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@the_mad_tinkerer Haha, yes we do have some brilliant food, don't we? Also, @Edanurus is right, you should not use the "P-word" it is very offensive and yes, it would be like calling a black person the N-word.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Edanurus Yes, you are right Pakistan was only founded in 1947.

[Edanurus]

@SpiderManFan2002 Indeed though the area was a great intellectual epicenter no doubt.

I do enjoy the food. Shame I'm not in the area any more and have to specify Asian style when I order now.

[the_mad_tinkerer]

@spidermanfan200, @Edanurus thanks, my Pakistani friends throw around that word all the time and don't seem bothered when I use it, must just be them. Sorry if I offended, it cam from a place of ignorance, not a place of hate.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@the_mad_tinkerer It's okay, I know the difference between someone with malicious intent and someone who genuinely doesn't know.

We were both making sure you were aware because in certain parts of the world the term is really offensive. Like in the UK it is mainly offensive because people started using it in a derogatory way to not just Pakistani people, but South Asian people too and even people who were middle eastern. And then there was P-word bashing where in the 70s and 80s in the UK many people who were Pakistani or who just looked brown would get beaten up purely for no other reason than their ethnicity. That's how that term became so offensive.

[Edanurus]

@SpiderManFan @the_mad_tinkerer Yeah I thought about putting the P word myself. It can seem strange because the word brit isn't offensive. Historical use I guess.

[ahmadali01]

Ali Moeen Nawazish, The Highest Academic Achiever of Pakistan

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Success Story of Ali Moeen Nawazish

https://www.careerkarwan.com/articles/ali-moeen-nawazish--the-highest-academic-achiever-of-pakistan

[AkshiJanjua]

ok i am confused here
because in general Pakistani people are proud of their heritage even if they can't list some people who did great things
anyone can be proud of their heritage no matter what

[SpiderManFan2002]

I am proud of my Pakistani heritage, but, somebody on this website told me there was nothing to be proud of about it. I then dropped this, just to be like:
"Nothing? Are you really sure about that chump?"

[AkshiJanjua]

hmm thats great
and list can go on there are many more Pakistani people who achieved great heights
Even Pakistan's prime minister

[SpiderManFan2002]

I know right! It could be so long, and I intended to make it longer but unfortunately, I was under a time limit but I do plan to make a second part to this MyTake xD

[AkshiJanjua]

lol thats so great Asian representation you are putting out
Good work 😄

[SpiderManFan2002]

Hm, well, I'm not going to let someone sit there and shit on my people now am I?

[AkshiJanjua]

yeah of course those people are ignorant and dumb
there are millions of problems in their own countries but they are more focused in pinting out other countries's problems

[White-American89]

Very underwhelming. It's like you are saying there's little to be proud of in Pakistan. How about that cricket guy who became priminister?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Very underwhelming? Unless you've completed every single one of these achievements and haven't broken a sweat doing so, you don't have a place to call it underwhelming, have you done something better?

These achievements were no way, "little achievements". And I could only write about five people because I was under a time limit because you know, I have a life outside of this website.

Do you mean Imran Khan? You're commenting on him yet you can't be bothered to google his name. It's a two-second search. Ignorance at its peak.

And yeah, he's pretty awesome too, I mentioned him in the MyTake. He got previous corrupt leaders of Pakistan behind bars, he offered a hand of friendship to India wanting to make peace with them when he returned their soldier unharmed and in good health, he has been educated at Oxford. That's a top university in England, and now he wants to change Pakistan for the better.

But then how would you know all that? You couldn't even be bothered to make a two-second Google search for Imran Khan's name, I mentioned him in the MyTake and you still didn't know about him, how ignorant must you be?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[White-American89]

Imran Khan, that's the guy described as Pakistan's Donald Trump.
I mean your take on Pakistan people of note is underwhelming, surely you could do a better job.

[SpiderManFan2002]

No way don't you go comparing Imran Khan to Donald Trump.

Could Donald Trump pass a test at Oxford? I highly doubt it. He thinks doctors give children Autism via flu jabs, and that America needs global warming when it is cold😂😂

And Imran Khan's dad wasn't some rich dude who could just pass him small loans of a million dollars, sure Imran Khan did come from an upper-middle-class background, but he used the privileges he had to do good.

In Imran Khan's youth, he was playing cricket for Pakistan and brought Pakistan to the world cup. He left a legacy for Pakistan in that sense.

What did Trump do in his youth? Perv at women' beauty pageants, having a hand in objectifying young women, and most likely rip off the American tax system.

You can't compare really😂😂

As for what you really meant with the MyTake, thank you. It just goes to show how much you value my work, you think I could do a better job? To make that judgment you must have seen my previous work and thought highly of that right?

Always nice to hear from a fan <3 😂

[White-American89]

https://youtu.be/4YyBv4s8aSM

[SpiderManFan2002]

Thank you for sending that video. You need to be clearer on how you phrase things you are extremely vague and leave a lot of grey area, which could be interpreted in several different ways.

If you actually listen to what Trevor Noah says, he says that he's not saying "Khan is the brown Trump" (quote Trevor) he is saying that Khan uses a similar format to Trump in order to gain support.

[White-American89]

He even mentioned khan's sexual assault allegations.

[Britantic]

Agreed very underwhelming.

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[Sevenpointfive]

i like that you didn't go mainstream with this and choose your own idols

[SpiderManFan2002]

What do you mean?

[Sevenpointfive]

a quick search has a list of prominent pakistanis in the world. it shows that there are many like you stated.

[Ámayas_20]

While I don't tend to think heritage is anything to be proud of you should never be ashamed of it either, also Mehak Gul shocked me I'd never heard of her but wow.

[Nadim171]

That's great. But I would like to see a mytake about British people that you're proud of as well since you live there you have to be proud and loyal to the UK as well

[SpiderManFan2002]

If course I have one of those lines up, after all England is my country.

I mainly wrote this one because someone told me "there's nothing to be proud of" with being Pakistani, when there is.

And since you've requested it I'll have it lined up for some time but not straight away as I have a job and I got something else planned to write, I hate going off schedule, but I'll add that to my "things to write" plan.

[Nadim171]

To be honest, I think if you leave a country to live in another you should focus more on loving the country you moved to

[SpiderManFan2002]

I do love the UK I've written MyTakes stating that like my one on a multi cultural society.

I was born in England.

But just as much as I love England I love my heritage too☺

[Nadim171]

It's fine to be multicultural, yet not all cultures are suitable with britian. Some cultures are barbaric which caused the clusterf*ck in the UK right now, sorry there is no other word to describe it

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[ZeussLightningBolt]

That someone was ME!
5 good Pakistanis doesn't make up for the 200 million bad ones.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

Actually 135.4 million bad ones, if you wanna be accurate.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

You know what?
Forget religion and people.
Forget the problems.

Write one on tourism, geography, wildlife and cultural heritage.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@ZeussLightningBolt What proof do you have to show 135.4 million Pakistanis are "bad"?

Some may have alternate views to us which may immoral. But if they haven't been taught that their views are immoral, then is it really their fault?

People who are educated should try and teach them right from wrong, what is and isn't immoral. There are many good Pakistani people in the world, I just listed 5 off of the top of my head. Do you have any idea about how ignorant you sound?

[ZeussLightningBolt]

135.4 million Pakistanis want Sharia Law, not only in Pakistan, but in other Muslim countries too. Any Muslim who wants Sharia Law to be the law of the land is bad. So the majority of them.

YES! It IS their fault! They should be able to think for themselves. They are nothing but a bunch of blind sheep, and Anjam Chouhdry (however you spell it) is their Shepard.

Oh wow, FIVE out of 200 million! Yeah, you proved me wrong! My bad!

I'm not ignorant. But I AM, so is Ben Shapiro because I got that from HIM.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@ZeussLightningBolt Tell me how you believe Sharia Law works.

And no it isn't their fault if they are not educated like us, because they don't have the privileges we have, not everyone in Pakistan is blessed with free education where they can sit in a classroom and openly discuss alternate viewpoints. We in our societies have that and we are privileged to have that.

Those were just five I listed off the top of my head. If you read what I put, it says I was under a time limit and therefore didn't have enough time to list absolutely everyone. I can think of many famous and non-famous great native Pakistani people. For example, many came to the UK in the 50s, the 60s, and the 70s, and helped grow our workforce and contributed to society in a great way. They with many other immigrants helped my country's economy, boom but I supposed because of the ignorant prejudices you hold, you'd automatically look at their passport and think:

"Hmm... Native Pakistani must be bad."

[ZeussLightningBolt]

Four male eyewitnesses to rape
Getting stoned for adultery, even if there is no evidence
Getting stoned for premarital sex and PFD
Being allowed to marry a child and start fucking her after she has her period
Being allowed to honor kill and acid attack women
Stoning of homosexuals and transgenders
Getting lashes for wearing your headscarf wrong, or just because a man smiles at you
If you're a woman, having to keep your head down and face hidden when a strange man knocks on your door

Just to name a few

"but I supposed because of the ignorant prejudices you hold, you'd automatically look at their passport and think"
Women not being allowed to have an education.

Even if this isn't what Sharia Law is, it doesn't matter, because these practices exist in Pakistan.

No I wouldn't. I only think your men are piece of shit people. I don't know why you are defending them, especially since you are not a hijabi. You do not thinking your men are abusers and your women are oppressed?

by the way, Shezadi told me I know a lot about Pakistan, so only YOU think I am ignorant.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

I know. I know. You admitted these problems exist in Pakistan, but you still refuse to accept it is a MAJORITY, not a minority.

People can get killed in your country for leaving Islam.

Even if this isn't the law of the land, I don't know anything about that Khan guy or his policies, it doesn't matter, because the majority of the population is brainwashed and holds radical ideals.

But I will give Khan credit for banishing radical Imams from the country.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

by the way, I don't hate you. I just hate your views and mentality.
Don't worry, I won't kill you for being a Muslim. You don't have to be afraid of me. How could I possibly harm you?

[SpiderManFan2002]

All of the punishments you listed are in very extreme circumstances, and should be never really be used. I don't know the exact rulings on Sharia Law myself, but I am in contact with a professor who studies Islam so hopefully, he should be able to clear up the exact rulings on Sharia Law with me with evidence from Islamic texts.

I do know one thing, in many Muslim countries Sharia Law is distorted and not practiced in the correct way.

As for Sharia Law in the UK? We don't need it. Everybody is happy with British Law, so let's keep British Law. It works for everybody.

"No I wouldn't. I only think your men are piece of shit people."
So my grandfathers, and their male friends, who came to the UK and helped boom our economy are (quote you) "pieces of shit" just because of their country of origin? Isn't that a very racist thing to say?

" I don't know why you are defending them, especially since you are not a hijabi. You do not thinking your men are abusers and your women are oppressed? "

I don't wear the hijab physically but that doesn't mean I don't wear it metaphorically. I am modest. I wear modest clothes, I act in a modest way. The hijab is more than an item of clothing on your head, in Islam, the definition of hijab is: "principle of modesty in all ways"

So no, I may not be wearing what we call a hijab on my head, but I am modest in many other ways so I am metaphorically wearing the hijab.

I think a lot of our women are oppressed by our men. But that doesn't mean all our men are oppressors. My grandfather a person who grew up in Pakistan his whole life put every hope in his daughters to succeed, to go to university, to become successful careerwomen. The fact that they were girls didn't bother him because they were his children and he wanted all of his children to succeed, the girls and the boys.

And he's just one example of many Native Pakistani fathers who push their daughters to succeed.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@ZeussLightningBolt Nobody said anything about you killing me. Or hating me. We're behind a computer screen for heaven's sake it's not as if you can crawl through and strangle me.

We can't really comment on whether these problems are a majority thing or a minority thing. It seems like they are a majority problem, from what the media show us, but we can't really say on whether they are a majority problem.

I'm not going to lie, lots of sick things happen in Pakistan, so many, we hear about so much, and to me it does look like it is a majority problem- but it also looks like a lot of people i. e. the new generation, are fighting back against these radical ideas and you need to acknowledge that not all our men are scum like you suggest.

And just to clarify England is my country, Pakistan is my country of heritage. And I am aware that people can get killed for leaving Islam and I completely disagree with that. If somebody wants to leave our religion and go join another one, or not join that one at all then you know what? We can't judge. Because we've all sinned before. The only one who can judge is Allah. Nobody else.

And actually, I'd like to backtrack on something I stated in a previous reply. Some of the punishments you listed for Sharia Law are not even true now I read your list again. But as I said I have enquired to the professor who studies Islam and Christianity and hopefully he should get back to me.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

Some girl messaged me and told me, "That SpidermanFan girl told me she is scared to death of you, and thinks you will attack/bully her because she is Muslim."

[SpiderManFan2002]

@ZeussLightningBolt Oh cool, people talk about me? I must have a fan club. Who messaged you? They talked about me I have a right to know. You can PM whoever spouted that BS, but no, it ain't true, I'm not scared of you we're behind a computer screen for crying out loud what can you do to me? Nothing.

[ZeussLightningBolt]

Nah that's fine. I'm not gonna tell you.
I wouldn't hurt you in real life either, just because we disagree
I'm not ANTIFA.

But people think I'm some kind of neo-Nazi. LOL

[SpiderManFan2002]

I don't think you're gonna hurt me, you could never hurt me don't worry. ;)

But WOW. This person talks about me behind my back, and now you don't want to tell me about it? I assume they told you not to, they must be afraid of me if they can talk BS about me behind my back, but not just straight up say to me.

At least I have a secret fan club though xD

[ZeussLightningBolt]

I'm surprised you're even still talking to me.
Most people would've blocked me by now. LOL

[SpiderManFan2002]

I only block if somebody is a pervert towards me. I've had many of those, unfortunately, hence, I don't show my face on here anymore. I got tired of their sick degrading comments. And their perverted requests.

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[SpiderManFan2002]

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