They banned guns in Europe and all they people who wanted to do harm did is find new weapons to use like trucks and grenades (I'm serious there's grenade attacks in Sweden). You take guns away and you remove people's ability to defend themselves effectively. The world is a dangerous place, passing laws and confiscating things will never change that. You're a naive fool and a coward.
@Drezi420 2000 guns is nothing. There is probably over that amount in my small Canadian town of only around 3000 people, as evidence of this my uncle owns over a dozen guns. This is a small amount when you think that america has 120 civilian guns per 100 people, compared to Canada 35 guns per 100 people. 2000 guns isn't even a drop in the bucket to the state of california.
Also, what recall are you talking about? I tried to find it so I could directly address this recall and why it didn't succeed, but I couldnt find info on it.
Mfs talk so much about mass shootings but never mentions shit happening where im from.. Not normal that im 16 years old, have been shot once, been shot at 10+ times and got 30 close friends and family members that got shot and killed. But thats the thing about being a black kid in America, mfs not gone care about u
It isn't because of guns. I do agree that we need to have a bit more intensive background checks and such, but I do not think that we should ban any kind of gun outright. If you do so, you're only taking guns away from people who obey the law. People who break the law and want to shoot people, will still find ways to illegally obtain weapons.
Mass shootings are statistically very improbable. More than 80% of mass shootings occur in establishments where you can't have a gun on you. This is not a coincidence. The founders made the 2nd amendment inalienable for a reason. The right to bear arms is imperative to resist tyranny.
Here's why your wrong, firstly there were automatic weapons in that time such as the pickle gun or the multi shot revolvers, so don't make the musket argument also look at he UK, we have guns, and insanely strict gun controls, howeverpeople still kill eachother in droves, however with knifes not guns so gun control is just a plaster on a arterial wound, sure it'll helps psychologically but the persons still gonna die in minutes
Were damn near what, 300 so far? Pretty sure it’s not happening until a group of “white power!” Assholes do it on live tv in a republican stronghold at a nra convention.
ITS THE GOVERNMENT'S FAULT! upwards of 70% of firearms used in shooting are obtained illegally, so banning guns won't make a difference. and there is a knife-related crime involving multiple victims every 12 hours in the US , so should we ban knives?
Republicans are dumbasses, simple. Unfortunately innocent people have to suffer but this is nature's way of using natural selection on the trumptards. Hopefully they won't breed and make more ass spawn.
angry nuts cause these problems cuz of more poverty angry words said on news fuel these nuts they use any thing to do the crazy killings of people who never hurt them they just want to spread more hate when they do this weather they live or die
plus shutting down but hospitals cause this cuz then they are out in streets some thst don't get proper treatment you at least 30 percent of homeless have mental illness cuz they have no 1 treating them cuz funding was dropped to kerp them on their meds or in mental wards due to government cut backs
As much as I agree with the dime-a-dozen-ness of human life, I hope that’s the same attitude that’d be taken if this was an Islamic terrorist act. I feel like we’d be taking a totally different angle on this in that instance.
@WhiteSteve There have been attacks there by Islamic fanatics but every time it happens, there's a tirade on how Islam is a religion of peace. No Western European country is really doing anything major.
Ah, ok, I see your angle. I guess I’m referring specifically to America, I don’t know enough about shit overseas to comment.
Well, I guess we could really say the same about 9/11 by that standard. Bigger death toll of course, but it was “only” 3,000 out of 300M Americans. But we literally went to war over that.
I guess what I’m getting is at is that every time it’s some crazy white guy with a gun a lot of people are just dismissive like , “well, that was just one or two crazy assholes.” I’m from Boston, we got our shit blown up by a couple local kids, albeit immigrants, but locals nonetheless. They sucked at the execution and more were maimed than killed, but that turned into anti-Islam rhetoric real quick. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter if it’s religion or politics or just plain insanity, the end result is the same, but I feel like a lot of people get selectively outraged about it depending on who the perpetrator was and how that affects their own agendas that are important to them personally.
@WhiteSteve Is there an anti-immigration sentiment in Boston now? They are still rude in their own Bostonian way. I see nothing changing. There's definitely an anti-white and male sentiment in the media. Wouldn't that worry you as a white male?
Of all the people I worry about in the world, White men are dead last on the list, lmao.
The “Old Guard” here, the guys named Sully and Murph that drink Guinness in Southie, Dorchester, and Charlestown bars with neon shamrocks in the window are our in-house bigots, always have been, wayyyyyyy before the Marathon bombing, they were the same guys throwing rocks at the black kids they started bussing kids from different neighborhoods citywide to schools in their neighborhoods, or protesting being biased to black neighborhoods. That’s a black eye our city has to wear for a little while til that generation dies off.
I would not say that there’s at all any increase in anti-immigration sentiment as a result. Honestly, the bomber that survived, you’re more likely to hear “that’s crazy, I wrestled him in high school when he was at Rindge & Latin!” or “my cousin lived in his dorm at UMass-Dartmouth!” He was for all intents and purposes a pretty regular American by the accounts I’ve heard. The older brother was a little less connected to here and the real radical. But overall, it was just some fucked up thing that happened, and now it’s over with. I don’t think it changed anyone’s attitude here, they either felt that way before and after, or they didn’t. We’re a pretty progressive city on the whole, people are by and large well-educated here.
@Malik00 The entire media is on this too even Fox News they report in a biased way to make the masses want guns gone even if the people on Fox are defending gun rights they are still helping to push an anti-gun agenda
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One sided family court cases still vastly outnumber mass shootings and most men choose to live in blind ignorance of that too.
I think for most living with the risk of "it happening to you" is worth it to maintain your framework for the foundation of what you see a society is.
They banned guns in Europe and all they people who wanted to do harm did is find new weapons to use like trucks and grenades (I'm serious there's grenade attacks in Sweden). You take guns away and you remove people's ability to defend themselves effectively. The world is a dangerous place, passing laws and confiscating things will never change that. You're a naive fool and a coward.
Guns are way too accessible.
No. When California changed the gun laws and recalled like 2,000 some odd guns the violent crime rate dropped a big 0%. Soak that up
@Drezi420: LMBO.
@Drezi420 2000 guns is nothing. There is probably over that amount in my small Canadian town of only around 3000 people, as evidence of this my uncle owns over a dozen guns. This is a small amount when you think that america has 120 civilian guns per 100 people, compared to Canada 35 guns per 100 people. 2000 guns isn't even a drop in the bucket to the state of california.
Also, what recall are you talking about? I tried to find it so I could directly address this recall and why it didn't succeed, but I couldnt find info on it.
2000 guns is about 0.6% of California guns.
Sources:
www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153
en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
(Gun ownership in USA, I know it is wikipedia but the numbers come from the Geneva small arms survey)
Making a 0% change to the guns made a 0% change to the crime, shocker lmao
Mfs talk so much about mass shootings but never mentions shit happening where im from.. Not normal that im 16 years old, have been shot once, been shot at 10+ times and got 30 close friends and family members that got shot and killed. But thats the thing about being a black kid in America, mfs not gone care about u
It isn't because of guns. I do agree that we need to have a bit more intensive background checks and such, but I do not think that we should ban any kind of gun outright. If you do so, you're only taking guns away from people who obey the law. People who break the law and want to shoot people, will still find ways to illegally obtain weapons.
Mass shootings are statistically very improbable. More than 80% of mass shootings occur in establishments where you can't have a gun on you. This is not a coincidence. The founders made the 2nd amendment inalienable for a reason. The right to bear arms is imperative to resist tyranny.
Here's why your wrong, firstly there were automatic weapons in that time such as the pickle gun or the multi shot revolvers, so don't make the musket argument also look at he UK, we have guns, and insanely strict gun controls, howeverpeople still kill eachother in droves, however with knifes not guns so gun control is just a plaster on a arterial wound, sure it'll helps psychologically but the persons still gonna die in minutes
Guns don't kill people, people kill people, we need to ban people.
Were damn near what, 300 so far? Pretty sure it’s not happening until a group of “white power!” Assholes do it on live tv in a republican stronghold at a nra convention.
It's not "how many". It's "who".
Wait till some important key figure get shot, and everybody loses their minds.
"How many mass shootings does it take for someone to WAKE UP!"
The answer will always be at least one more.
ITS THE GOVERNMENT'S FAULT! upwards of 70% of firearms used in shooting are obtained illegally, so banning guns won't make a difference.
and there is a knife-related crime involving multiple victims every 12 hours in the US , so should we ban knives?
Republicans are dumbasses, simple. Unfortunately innocent people have to suffer but this is nature's way of using natural selection on the trumptards. Hopefully they won't breed and make more ass spawn.
angry nuts cause these problems cuz of more poverty angry words said on news fuel these nuts they use any thing to do the crazy killings of people who never hurt them they just want to spread more hate when they do this weather they live or die
plus shutting down but hospitals cause this cuz then they are out in streets some thst don't get proper treatment you at least 30 percent of homeless have mental illness cuz they have no 1 treating them cuz funding was dropped to kerp them on their meds or in mental wards due to government cut backs
Honestly after Sandy Hook I knew nothing was ever going to change. If dead little kids doesn't faze them, nothing will
More accurate: how much money is needed for the politicians to wake up?
People always ask this question after every mass shooting but nothing gets done. We’ll talk about it for a few weeks and forget about it.
Oh i thought when it says bear arms i thought it meant the right to hang 🐻 bear arms on the wall like family Guy said
Why are people worried? The country will function. 30 people dying in a population of 300+ million is minimal.
As much as I agree with the dime-a-dozen-ness of human life, I hope that’s the same attitude that’d be taken if this was an Islamic terrorist act. I feel like we’d be taking a totally different angle on this in that instance.
@WhiteSteve It is; look at Europe.
I don’t really follow the goings-on in Europe, I’m not sure what you mean.
@WhiteSteve There have been attacks there by Islamic fanatics but every time it happens, there's a tirade on how Islam is a religion of peace. No Western European country is really doing anything major.
Ah, ok, I see your angle. I guess I’m referring specifically to America, I don’t know enough about shit overseas to comment.
Well, I guess we could really say the same about 9/11 by that standard. Bigger death toll of course, but it was “only” 3,000 out of 300M Americans. But we literally went to war over that.
I guess what I’m getting is at is that every time it’s some crazy white guy with a gun a lot of people are just dismissive like , “well, that was just one or two crazy assholes.” I’m from Boston, we got our shit blown up by a couple local kids, albeit immigrants, but locals nonetheless. They sucked at the execution and more were maimed than killed, but that turned into anti-Islam rhetoric real quick. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter if it’s religion or politics or just plain insanity, the end result is the same, but I feel like a lot of people get selectively outraged about it depending on who the perpetrator was and how that affects their own agendas that are important to them personally.
@WhiteSteve Is there an anti-immigration sentiment in Boston now? They are still rude in their own Bostonian way. I see nothing changing. There's definitely an anti-white and male sentiment in the media. Wouldn't that worry you as a white male?
Of all the people I worry about in the world, White men are dead last on the list, lmao.
The “Old Guard” here, the guys named Sully and Murph that drink Guinness in Southie, Dorchester, and Charlestown bars with neon shamrocks in the window are our in-house bigots, always have been, wayyyyyyy before the Marathon bombing, they were the same guys throwing rocks at the black kids they started bussing kids from different neighborhoods citywide to schools in their neighborhoods, or protesting being biased to black neighborhoods. That’s a black eye our city has to wear for a little while til that generation dies off.
I would not say that there’s at all any increase in anti-immigration sentiment as a result. Honestly, the bomber that survived, you’re more likely to hear “that’s crazy, I wrestled him in high school when he was at Rindge & Latin!” or “my cousin lived in his dorm at UMass-Dartmouth!” He was for all intents and purposes a pretty regular American by the accounts I’ve heard. The older brother was a little less connected to here and the real radical. But overall, it was just some fucked up thing that happened, and now it’s over with. I don’t think it changed anyone’s attitude here, they either felt that way before and after, or they didn’t. We’re a pretty progressive city on the whole, people are by and large well-educated here.
*being bussed to black neighborhoods
Did you say that after 9/11? But sure everything will be normal if its a White TERRORIST, right?
If all we are allowed to have is muskets but the government, military and criminals have AR15s how is that gonna work out for the people?
That's the idea, a defanged populace is an easy to oppress populace
@Malik00 The entire media is on this too even Fox News they report in a biased way to make the masses want guns gone even if the people on Fox are defending gun rights they are still helping to push an anti-gun agenda