The Banning Of Blue Story And Debunking Misconceptions (As Usual)

[SpiderManFan2002]

Recently on the news I have seen the banning of the film "blue story" from cinemas in the UK, now this for me has sparked discussion online and among my friends and of course has led people to blow the event which occured way out of proportion.

Firstly, What Is Blue Story?

Blue Story Poster

"Feature adaptation of Rapman's YouTube series about two young friends who become rivals in a street war."

That's the description google gave.

In all honesty, I really want to see this film, because Britain has a problem among young people with "postcode wars." Now I am fortunate enough to not have encountered this problem in real life, but it does happen- and as an outsider hearing about this problem, I don't fully know why this happens.

This film, however, may give me an insight and help me understand why this problem occurs. Sure, I have my own vague idea of why things as such happen- that's a discussion for another MyTake though.

What Was The Incident That Occured Causing "Blue Story" To Be Banned From Cinemas?

The Incident occured in the city of Birmingham.

A fight broke out between youths at the cinema, a girl aged 13, a boy and girl aged 14 and a man aged 19, were all held on suspicion of assaulting police- and a boy aged 14 was held on suspicion of obstructing police.

All five were then arrested on suspicion of a violent disorder after an image was shared on social media showing a number of youths one of which was carrying a machete.

This article reports it better than I can so if you want to know where I get my information from, here is my source: https://news.sky.com/story/birmingham-gang-film-pulled-by-cinema-chain-after-machete-brawl-at-complex-11868986

The Misconceptions I Feel I NEED To Debunk

"The Media Is Hiding Their Identity Because They Are Pakistani"

Firstly, you can't say they were Pakistani because no report on their ethnic background has been publicised. One photo of a group of kids with brown skin does not mean they are Pakistani. They may be Pakistani, they may not be Pakistani.

Secondly, the media has to keep even their identities confidential because while what they have done is awful, they are still children and the law states that because they are children their identity should be confidential.

Section 49 of the "Children and Young Persons Act 1933" places a restriction on reporting any information that is likely to or directly identifies any person under the age of 18 who is concerned in a youth court proceedings as a victim, witness, or defendant.

"There were 100s of armed Pakistanis"

Having already established we can't say for sure these youths are Pakistani because we don't know their ethnicity, I'll move on to the "100s" point.

There were not 100s of armed Pakistanis.

Police drew tasers and used a dispersal order to clear about 100 youths.

That doesn't mean 100s of youths were involved in the attack, what probably (not certainly but my best guess) happened was there happened to be a group of youths fighting and this attracted attention of other youths- so they went to watch and I can imagine they were most likely getting rowdy too.

Not 100s of ✌️Pakistanis✌️ attacking people with machetes.

Does Their Ethnicity Even Matter Though?

No ethnicity of these children does not matter. What stands out to me more than whatever skin colour they come in, is the fact that these people are children.

Rather than gawping at their ethnicity- if there is anything we need to gawp at it's their age. They are so young we need to ask why are they doing this?

What causes someone so young to attack the police?

What causes a young person to carry a machete?

Some people will hate me for saying this because they don't want to admit it, but ethnicity is not the problem here.

Accross the UK there has been knife crime involving Asian youth, white youth and black youth. The common denominator isn't ethnic background, the common denominator is the fact that it's happening among the youth.

I want to write a separate MyTake on UK knife crime, firstly, because I feel like it is an important issue happening in my country which should be discussed and secondly a g@g user requested a MyTake on the issue from me quite a while back.

Until then, thank you for reading this MyTake. :)

[Pamina]

I advise you to stop talking to these "racialists" (a. k. a. "race realists"). They believe in pseudoscience that backs up their racism. There's literally no point in talking to people who choose to believe in pseudoscientifc mumbo jumbo. Might as well talk to Flat Earthers. Just remove their racist comments disguised as "science" and focus on people who actually make sense (whether they agree with you or not).

[SpiderManFan2002]

It's not just them. They can think what they want but I'm also writing this for normies who may be led to believe lies spread by these racists.

[Pamina]

Oh, I think you misunderstood! This wasn't referring to your myTake, I think it's great you're writing these posts! I was referring to the discussion you were having in the comments with these racists.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Oh I get it now! ^_^

But I love exposing racists for what they are and though there may be no point for them directly- it shows normies that actually they don't have a valid argument :)

[Pamina]

Yeah, I used to think like that. But now I've come to the conclusion that more often than not these internet discussions will look like they have been "won" by the ones who are factually wrong. And the reason for that is very simple - the side that doesn't have facts on their side doesn't have any rules they have to follow. They can move the goalposts whenever they want, they can always make claims without evidence, and so on. They can fully focus on rhetoric and well articulation, and with that manipulate the discussion and make it seem like they're winning. And the normies will be like "Hmm, that guy uses SCIENCE and he's always calm and well articulated, he must be right!" even though the science was pseudoscience disguised as science, the calm manner is just calculated smugness, and the well articulation nothing but superficiality.

But this is just my opinion on the matter. If you believe you'll manage to have a net positive influence on the normies, then I sure hope you're right.

[Dyrunn]

I once heard the following comparison: "Having an argument with an idiot is like having chess with pigeon. You can do all the right moves, but the pigeon will strut around like it won and poop on the board anyway." I. e. it doesn't really accomplish anything to have a discussion with people who don't just have different world view from yours, but also a completely different definition of "truth" and "facts" and "reasonable". Also, I tend to agree with Pamina's advice, simply because in the long run, arguing with bigots will make you very sad and exhausted, and all the time spend arguing with them cannot be spent on useful, fruitful activities. But I've tried too, when I was younger. Still try sometimes, but only when the person is at least open to learning new facts and in general, uses a reasonable argument. Of course, that does also mean that I have to entertain at least the possibility that they are right, because it wouldn't be honest of me to expect something from them that they cannot expect from me. But to be able to that, their viewpoint, when looked at honestly, mustn't seem reprehensible to me from the start. And most racialists come with lots of pseudo-scientific arguments, but eventually seem to just want one of the following things: to make their country have "less" inhabitants who they think of weird or strange (usually they don't explain how exactly they want to accomplish that, because then the Nazism would become much too clear), or to blame one or more societal groups on their personal failures. People with ideas like that just aren't very interesting to argue with.

[Lightningfire]

I must admit, I do agree with you that it’s the age that is more disturbing than the race. The fact that people are our age group (and sometimes younger!) are going round stabbing people is shocking. We know this, the question is why?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Absolutely, the age is the most disturbing thing.

[MackToday]

Sounds like the UK Stasi wants to shut up the truth. The number of stabbings and gang fights in the UK is shocking and all because of "migrants" who don't belong there in the first place. They've created a pressure cooker that is going to blow right under their greedy asses.

[SpiderManFan2002]

No not really, if you look at the actual problem- British born teenagers are committing these crimes.

[wankiam]

very well written and your site nemesis should take note but im sure she won't going on what she is saying about the latest terror attack

[SpiderManFan2002]

They won't take notice unless it follows a racist narrative.

[wankiam]

ain't that the truth

[Black_Dynamite77]

Agreed some racist posted this pic claiming the media blurred and white washed the pics so the criminals appeared white.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Well, in my opinion, that is a blatant lie set to spark fear and create divide among communities in Britain.

[Joeshek]

Um, I don’t know if you’ve never read statistics but wth its does matter. Certain ethnicities disproportionately cause much more crime. What you’re saying is that rattlesnakes should not be distrusted because even garter snakes bite. Turn off political correctness and let your brain actually think. Imagine you’re an alien from outer space and you see a certain group of people who make up 13% of the US population but cause 55% of murders and robberies but you see another group making up 65% of the population and causing 30% of the murders and robberies. Are you going to pretend that your eyes don’t work?

[SpiderManFan2002]

No it doesn't. Why don't you turn off your racism and let your brain think.

The thing is they're not aliens from outer space, they're human beings just like me or you- and whoever commits crime surely has a reason. Rather than looking at the colour of their skin, and stigmatising a whole community of people- look at the content of their character and ask: "Why would you as a human being do this?"

[Nachowedgie]

Observing statistics and facts and coming to logical conclusions isn't racist, it's intelligent, something you evidently aren't @SpiderManFan2002

[SpiderManFan2002]

@Nachowedgie If you're going to broaden it to ethnicity and act as if a whole ethnic group is responsible for a crime- why don't you broaden it to "human beings" and act like humanity has a problem?

[Joeshek]

@SpiderManFan2002 if you think race is merely skin color, then I will be black if I go tan, and Indians and Blacks must be the same if the skin color matches. But race is biological — scientists can look at a Skeleton and determine race. They can look at DNA and determine race. In fact skin color, while visible, is not the determinant of race. But let’s get caught up in emotion, call names and ignore facts.

[Joeshek]

And I don’t want to hear about how men are so bad (even though they cause 90% of crime). Police should assume women are just as likely to be culpable. We’ll adopt your “we are all humans” mantra

[SpiderManFan2002]

Excuse me? Name calling? You're the one who told me to turn off political correctness, I'm just telling you to turn off racism? Is that too much to ask of you?

I never said it was. But we're all human beings and all have the capacity to commit crime. Some do, most don't. Tell me what is the difference if a person of race A and a person of race B commits the exact crime? Will you stereotype one race over another because of some so-called stats you've seen?

[SpiderManFan2002]

Who's saying that men are bad? And yeah, when being suspects of a crime women should be just as much as suspects as men.

And so glad my fact that we're all human beings is rubbing off on you :) <3

[KrakenAttackin]

I wonder if you will change your tune when a group of these "humans" has grabbed you and is using you for some TAHARRUSH. A stupid liberal like you will still find a way to blame white men for this.

[SpiderManFan2002]

@KrakenAttackin Because these humans are the only ones which can do such things?

And oh yes! Racism bingo 101 "bloody liberals!" - I don't consider myself to liberal by the way ;)

[KrakenAttackin]

You are 17, you don't know anything about anything. Come back to me in 20 years.

[KrakenAttackin]

This is what feminism and PC culture have done to once great societies.

[SpiderManFan2002]

No, this is what cuts and austerity have to done to our great socities.

[KrakenAttackin]

These cuts are to programs that never should have been proposed. The politicians have bankrupted great countries.

[jwsstein]

You go girl tell thankyou for taking up for the human race

[SpiderManFan2002]

"taking up the human race?"😂

[KaraAyna]

Good take

[SpiderManFan2002]

Thanks :)