For all excuses just to hate China

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Trigger warning for sinophobes

Of course it would be a lie to say that there's no issues going on in China. There still are many of them but it doesn't mean your country is better and flawless. Sure they probably only heard about the bad news in China which is actually easy to address because of today's media like the world news being controlled by USA which hates China for how successful they became economically https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/trump-china-economic-war-why-reasons With media brain washing people and China being one of the most hated country in the world being said, I'll start pointing the common excuses people come up to hate China.

Products made in China are fragile AF!

China makes almost everything and all people see is the fake and imitations they make. Ignoring the fact that they don't even take the credit when they make stuff for companies. For example you make say Chinese cars are crap. Of course because all the good quality parts are bought from China and just assembled in other countries and claim they made that car leaving the poorer quality ones in China behind. (They choose the best handles, breaks, wheels or etc.) The power of rebranding. Toyota, Nisan, Honda or etc. are Japanese brands. They're just brands but where they are made or the parts are actually made in China. And of course they have to make use of those crappy stuff left because it would be a waste to throw it away. They'd just sell it for a cheaper price for poorer people to have a taste to the expensive stuff other companies sell. And they complain about "Imitations". When people say Chinese products are fake, they also forgot the original products still came from China. You can ask China to mass produce 1000 pcs of your invention. They're already making 10000 of it before you get to announce it so I can't blame them.

Chinese eat dogs or bats or any other animals!

This had been the excuse to be a supremacist. It's not just China who does it. There are other tribes who do it too but China just being iconic here because of it's fairly large population and China being the most modern one of them all. Well yes in fact there are groups that do but there are also that don't. But the common complainers about this are dog lovers. I'm a dog lover too but the reason why those groups who don't eat dogs and even I don't stop them is because we're not a supremacist. We just like to respect their point of view and culture. They've been doing it for thousands of years way before dogs were domesticated as pets. https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/12545/20150205/dogs-cavemans-best-friend.htm I'm not gonna assume you're a vegan tho but chances you probably eat meat and eating pork, beef, lamb, chicken or etc. doesn't make it any different. If a vegan bashes on you, you wouldn't like it right? Because if you're gonna hate vegans bashing on you but you bash on China anyways for that reason, it's gonna be hypocritical and it doesn't make you any better. Another example is India and they don't eat beef because for them it's sacred. But people in other countries eat burgers, steak, beef curry or etc. anyways and you don't hear Indians complaining about that because they're not supremacists.

I blame them for the COVID-19!

The current excuse people have to come up. It's not like China is exempted for the Covid 19. They are not living in luxury while watching the world burn. And in fact there are way more people dying there than in your country. I have to admit that they spread it also because of their population but it wasn't intentionally. So to those who complain about China polluting the world just don't take responsibility of what their country do too. China never complain about other country's trashes being sent there just to be recycled and 90% of the world is making China manufacture stuff for them. But it's just time they stop taking all their garbage. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/china-has-stopped-accepting-our-trash/584131/ https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/03/13/702501726/where-will-your-plastic-trash-go-now-that-china-doesnt-want-it Now with that going on, what are they gonna if China sends them back? The current economy right now is collapsing yes but haters just don't wanna take time realizing about China being one of the backbone of the global economy the world is depending on. https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2015-10/29/content_22304146.htm https://www.debate.org/opinions/if-chinas-economy-collapses-would-it-cause-a-global-recession

[ShadowofRegret]

Personally, I like the chinese, I think a lot of people (especially in america) are too self-righteous, they like to think of themselves as a shining example of moral superiority while pointing at everyone else and telling them how bad they are, especially the extremely patriotic ones.

There is good and bad in every nation, they want to say such things about China, but chances are, there are people doing the same kinds of things in their own nations.

[Janishope20]

You can't forget China is the worlds biggest dictatorship, since one does not have democracy

[Janishope20]

how can anybody respect them

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Easy only those people who actually see their benefits respect them also they take less credits because of medias you portray.

[zooomer]

@Janishope20 democracy is way overrated, there are tons of other things to criticize China for.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@zooomer Which they didn't ask for. Also yours too and how your people gets brainwashed by CNN world news.

[zooomer]

I dont watch CNN. Although, yea our media is fucked, at least we can go online and look for the truth.

[iOoko]

@Janishope20 the americans are bombing half the world

[Dchrls78104]

You seem to have omitted another important one: that America and the west owe China several trillion US dollars. Maybe they're afraid that one day the Chinese government will come to collect...

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well I'm not exactly mentioning "all" of them because that will involve other countries and I don't wanna start anything with them.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

All reserved until they start comparing China to their country.

[hellionthesagereborn]

They do make crappy parts and while some are good, they also bug them to spy on other nations.

They do eat weird things, nobody really cares in general but they do think its weird and they have every right to do so (because you know damn well china bashes americans and American cultures all the god damn time (and have done so to our leaders faces no less).

As for corona virus, this is china's fault not because they created the virus intentionally but because they have so low health and safety standards that it allowed for this to be created when it would otherwise not have happened.

They also mass murder people and harvest their organs to sell for transplants (about 2,000 people in the entire country are signed up for organ donations, yet they perform over 10,000 a year. They have killed and harvested the organs of Falun Gong praticioners as well as the recent hong kong rights that saw protestors arrested and then they just disappeared. They claim that its from executed inmates but they only perform a few thousand of those a year that doesn't match the numbers.

They have gulags where they torture and "reeducate" the Hui people, Chinese muslims. They are tortured and forced to write essays on why they are what is wrong with china and explain why china and the socialist regime is great and wonderful in order to try and avoid being tortured as badly.

The Chinese people are not hated, no one has issue with the Chinese people as individuals, but the nation, its CURRENT culture that causes it to be one of the largest polluters in the world, commit countless human rights violations, that endorses slavery (its officially illegal but its still very much practiced. China has an estimated 3.8 million slaves.), etc. etc., that's what people have issue with.

If you where to admit that these things are happening and holding china back, that this is not what the Chinese people are about but rather is a product of the constant social engineering at the hands of the Chinese government, fine (I would agree with that). But acting as if legitimate criticism is unfair? That is unacceptable. By your rational no one is allowed to argue or criticize any one for their behavior and I can guarantee you that is something that you personally don't believe as it pertains to other cultures and nations (as china is constantly ridiculing other nations).

[Aiko_E_Lara]

" But acting as if legitimate criticism is unfair?" No I'm talking about people making excuses. You can already see them here tho as I said it from the start, "Of course it would be a lie to say that there's no issues going on in China. There still are many of them but it doesn't mean your country is better and flawless."

Also also the virus? It's also china's fault yes but it doesn't mean it's not other countries fault too. "So to those who complain about China polluting the world just don't take responsibility of what their country do too. China never complain about other country's trashes being sent there just to be recycled and 90% of the world is making China manufacture stuff for them."

[hellionthesagereborn]

Never proclaimed my country is flawless, it is objectively better. We don't kill people for being different for starters, our government doesn't harvest people for organs, we don't kill off all life in our rivers to the point where only algea grows their, we don't have gulags where we torture and brainwash people because they are different, its not illegal to question the government, we don't have a social credit system that forces conformity of opinions on our people etc. So yes we are infinitely better then china. That has nothing to do with the value of the historic Chinese people mind you, that is not something that can really be defined in my opinion as better or worse, but from a legal perspective, treatment of others, corruption, environmental, and moral perspective at the moment china is lacking in all those things. Individuals of course are different, but as a whole china is awful. They had a fascinating culture that had a lot of value to give to the world before, but that's gone now. The Chinese government destroyed it and many Chinese people allowed it to happen (many by buying into the communist regime, others simply because they didn't want to be mass murdered and currently because they don't want to be harvested for organs or sent to gulags where they will be "reeducated" with torture (all things that don't happen in the US).

Doesn't mean my nation doesn't have its problems we absolutely do, but we are not mass murdering people, we are not torturing people because they are different, we don't imprison people or make them disappear because they question the government etc. As for the virus, yeah, acutally it does mean its china's fault and not every one elses. It was created in china due to negligent conditions, that's no ones fault but china's.

[hellionthesagereborn]

No one is making china do anything, china is choosing to do what it does. Don't act like china is a slave state. Now do I think its shitty, sure, I don't think we should be throwing money at a violent evil dictatorship, especially one that routinely tries to screw over their business partners and violate international laws and as well as human rights. I don't think its a good thing for businesses to have no ethics and send things to china knowing that china doesn't give a damn about any one or anything, but that is not something I personally have control over beyond telling people not to do it and to try and cut out those companies from my life as best I can.

That doesn't mean china is a victim for this, they are the ones pushing for it and exploiting it. Again, that is different from individual people, that is different from china's culture historically, that is different from the Chinese people, but again, do not claim that legitimate criticism is some how hateful or an excuse, its not.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Make no mistake, I would love to see a free china, I would love to see a china that is not obessed with image, with horrible living conditions and treatment of people. I think its disgusting and demeans the Chinese people. I think they can do way better then what they are doing now, I think their spirit is broken and the only thing they have left right now is misplaced extreme nationalism (hence you trying to act as if china is the victim when they are not (again, the government harvests peoples organs and commits genocide against groups that do not conform to the socialist dicators wishes, the torture and put in gulags those that disagree with them or they don't like etc.)).

I would love nothing more then to see china over throw its corrupt government, become free people and prove their worth to the world by being better because if china does better then that can only help the world (and I mean better, not push propaganda and create a fake image of themselves but actually strive to be better)). But until that happens (and its going to take awhile because as we can see the government still rules with an iron fist (I'd be killed for saying any of this if I lived in china) and the Chinese people haven't been pushed to the point of overthrowing the government)), we are going to continue to criticize what china does wrong in the hopes that the Chinese people will hear it and see what they have become and realize they can be so much better and actually actively strive to change things.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Did I say china is being a slave state? While I'm saying china just has a lot of customers going on before you start straw manning. Also maybe for you you just see them as being oppressed by their government when they're just really obedient and they're not even complaining. It's only supremacists like you complain for them. No wonder why the west has so many SJWs there.

[hellionthesagereborn]

I wasn't straw maning, you stated that they MAKE china do it, that means that china is not an active player in the exchange and that is an outright lie. Their was no strawman argument, just an objective statement of the facts.

As for your supremacist remark, that's idiotically stupid. I just stated things that no supremacist would ever say so clearly your full of it. As for them not complaining, of course because their not legally allowed to complain or they get arrested, ostricised and kicked out of the society or killed. That's why so many try to move to the US (and why when they get here they actually become the most American of people because they realize just how screwed up china truly was after seeing what its like to actually be free.). I don't think the Chinese people are inherently docile and weak as you seem to present. It makes we wonder if this isn't a controlled account as china is quite fond of pushing their propaganda (not unlike Russia) in that format.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Customers makes waiters serve for them now are they slaves? In your strawman fallacy calling it so called "facts"

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"As for them not complaining, of course because their not legally allowed to complain or they get arrested" Well that's a flaw right there but your country isn't flawless. It's the exact opposite where there are many SJWs against any government and want so called "equality" so that's not an excuse to just judge.

[hellionthesagereborn]

No, they don't, no one is made to do anything in that situation. That's like saying the store makes me buy their products, no they don't I CHOOSE to buy products from them. Your the one creating straw man arguments. As for them not being allowed, yeah, they are not allowed to speak out against the government, they will be punished and you know this. You bring up SJW but that's what your doing your bitching and moaning because some one dared question China, your an SJW (or again, part of china's propaganda machine (or brainwashed)).

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"Your the one creating straw man arguments." <-- You're the one... Like that's how it works? Making them for a good deal is how business is suppose to be not slavery like in your fallacy. Yeah they have the option not to but there is also an option not to depend on China's landfill then later only blame them for pandemic. It's partly their fault but that doesn't mean others don't take responsibility for it. If it started in your place because China refused, it won't make it any better. www.theglobeandmail.com/.../ If you don't see "made in china" often, there are also chances that America may have imported from other countries that also sourced form China. Even sources came from there just to be reassembled in other countries and have it re branded.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Its like I'm speaking to a brick wall. It was not a fallacy, I did not say that china was enslaved, you stated that china was FORCED to make a product. That implies force (hence the word force in "FORC"ED) i. e. against their will and working against ones will is slavery, ergo my remark was simply that acting as if china is enslaved by others to do their work for them is inaccurate. Again, this was YOUR argument, not mine, I stated they where not slaves, they where not coerced, they where not forced into anything. Anyway, this is pointless your clearly here to push propaganda and hide the huge problems china has while blaming the US in a vain attempt to cover up all that china does (you know, like mass murder for organ harvesting, oppression of all people but especially minorities, torture, violation of human rights and international laws etc.).

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"Never proclaimed my country is flawless" Then who are you to judge? If you wanna make claims like "We don't kill people for being different for starters" Then so does China as a whole. They don't eat weird things. You're only talking about minority there. When no one is making china do anything, no one is also forcing their country to order stuff for them or have a deal with them. But they do it anyways because it's cheaper. All one sided.

[t_dog473]

I have nothing against Chinese people, and in fact I'd consider some of the closest people in my life, people who I call my brothers Chinese. That being said, the Chinese government is a horrible thing, and a horrible force in the world.

Where to begin? Maybe the fact that they're the worlds biggest dictatorship with a president who appointed himself president for life and wrote himself into the constitution. How about the fact that if journalists criticize the government they are imprisoned or killed. Maybe the restrictions on people of faith, Christians are forbidden from gathering and it's even worse for Muslims, millions of which are imprisoned in so-called "re-education camps". How about the decades of forced sterilization of Chinese women? I could go on, but I'll lastly mention the fact the Mao's cultural revolution is the single bloodiest event in history with the murder of anyone who opposed it, murders from this event is estimated to be between 60 and 100 MILLION people. Even at the low end that 10 times more than the Holocaust.

On the topic of COVID-19 or more accurately SARS-CoV-2, it's confirmed now that the Chinese government knew about the virus weeks before the government made any statement on it, and when they did they lied. They knew that it could spread human to human. They knew that the virus was extremely easy to spread and similar to SARS and yet the government approved a massive lunar new year festival where some of the first people became infected with no connection to the wet market where it supposedly began. In addition to that the president allowed 5 million people to pass through Wuhan well aware of the problem. Any scientists were threatened to keep silent and three doctors where found dead surrounded by mysterious circumstances after speaking out about the danger on the internet. To say nothing of all the bullcrap happening with the Hong Kong situation.

The Chinese government is evil, that has nothing to do with Chinese people.

[TonyBologna25]

I completely disagree with how they run their country under communist policies. I also completely disagree with their initial approach towards covid-19 as transparency wasn't of value to them towards other countries. Sure, tribes eating bats might be normal is some small hidden cultures around the world, but it's not normal to the rest of the world populous for a reason. It's taboo for a very good reason- and that's the fact that it's a fucking bat and it's not sanitary. China was also responsible for Bird flu and SARS for starters.

China seems to have a repeating pattern of spreading deadly virus's throughout the world due to large parts of their country being overpopulated unhygienic, and not following any regulations that come even close to our Food & Drug administration. China is good at manufacturing products in mass quantities for a cheap price. Typically not the best quality. I can say that confidently working in the engineering field. They've had numerous accounts of child labor and treating their employees like slaves. This is why they can manufacture products for the entire world so fast and cheap. This is how they've excelled economically so well. By exploiting human beings for cheap labor. It's the same concept of what wells Fargo was doing back in 2007. I do not condone that.

So I completely disagree with this China praising rhetoric. I'm not going to look at a Chinese man, and think negative thoughts, but I will look at how they run their country in a negative way. Their inability to follow basic hygienic standards that the rest of the first world does has costed us way too many lives. How they treat their people is absolutely disgusting as well. They are attempting to control the American media with the leverage they have, and Americans aren't even trying to fight back from what it seems like.

China's inability to practice good hygiene and standards of enforcing food regulations has completely disrupted our economy as well. Millions of Americans are losing their retirement. How would you feel if you put a hefty contribution into an IRA and 401k your entire life, turn 60, and have someone tell you that you've lost 40-50% of it. Now you can't even retire and have to work at that age just to support yourself. That's happening to millions of Americans right now. Lay-offs are starting to occur and it's only going to become worse. Millions of Americans now can't afford their mortgage forcing the federal reserve to print a trillion fucking dollars that's not creating a bubble and inflating the market to severe amounts.

The fact that you're taking away any accountability when that many lives have been lost and disrupted is mind-blowing. Try telling that to the victims who have lost family members and friends and now have mourn. Try telling that to Americans who have lost everything.

China does need to take accountability, so that they can get their shit together once and for all. That way, we minimize the chances of another catastrophic outcome. We don't just say "It's okay China... we know it was an accident... AGAIN" - No, this shit needs to be stopped and accountability needs to take place so that we can avoid things like this in the future. This take is absolute bullshit and I'm surprised that anyone agrees.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

Honestly, "a lot of issues going on", I view as a huge belittlement. I'm sure most people aren't claiming that their own nation is flawless just for criticizing China.
The fact of the matter is that it is an extremely oppressive, authoritarian state, and have official tactics of propaganda, lies and promotion of authoritarian, Chinese-styled socialist, anti-democratic values in place on the international arena. Society is heavily censured, its newest form of control being the internet regulations, and the population is ruthlessly regulated by numerous police forces, including the innermost Gau bou, secret police who either, "invite to tea" or abduct political dissidents and, "dissuade" them from going against the regime. They are continuously combating the promotion of democratic values with regional neighbors and deny places such as Hong Kong a fair legislative system, and Hong Kong are even waving and propagating for a return to British governance seeing as the last governor, Chris Patten, introduced a fair democratic election process before leaving, that was reversed by China. They've also constantly been on Taiwan's back for being a successful Asian democracy, cooperating with nations like North Korea, Pakistan and Burma to isolate them economically, and have inflamed tensions between Pakistan and India for their own gain when they dammed the Indus river valley.

As for Covid-19, they might not have started it intentionally, but they arrested the doctor who wanted to warn the world of it, who later died of said virus. And they have even gone so far as to scapegoat my country, Sweden, as a country doing poorly against it, and have claimed that the virus was placed in Wuhan by American military.

And I have never heard of any such thing that China is burdened with the world's trash, I wouldn't take news articles as a fact for that matter either, maybe that's true and maybe not. What I do know from statistics is that while the US last year ended up as the highest reducers of carbon emissions along with the EU, 80% of all raised emissions was represented by Asia. So I do not go along with your narrative here that China is merely misrepresented by, "big bad US". And you do clearly have a degree of bias in the matter. China under its current communist rule *is* an enemy of the west, and a dangerous force.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Arresting doctors who wanted to warn the world of it? Well that's the kind of propaganda i'm talking about. When it is illogical to actually arrest a doctor in the world of it while many people more and more are actually dying their compared to your country. And how realistic if they just go to china to address their issues without even leaving their themselves. Well yes that's the American controlled media for you

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

That's hardly propaganda as we know for a fact the doctor in question is now dead and he was indeed stopped from warning the outside world. As for the rest of your paragraph, I honestly did not understand a word of that.

I am reading several books on the matter of China's regime including, China's Foreign Policy by Alice Monroe, and Authoritarianism Goes Global by John Hopkins, feel free to look any of those up. So it is not a matter of media. But clearly you are a loyal Chinese individual who'd never admit to your country being messed up so going back and forth with you is a waste of time.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Just like a lot of other countries who don't really admit their country is messed up but really wanna criticized and you know invade other countries. Sure the chinese foreign policies and a lot more your talking about the exist but so does yours. But this mytake is just for haters who don't wanna take a look at their own country's flaws.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also there is something called cherry picking. Cherry pick the bad news and spread it over the world to give them bad reputation. And yes we all know that usa is controlling the world news.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

That other countries have flaws is no excuse for China's policies that include meddling in democratization and undermining its influence, and oppressing administrate regions such as Hong Kong and neighboring nations. Sweden for example, does no such thing.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Not justifying anything there. If that's how you're going to say it then also there's no excuse for other countries to have their flaws if that's the case just like sweden you're talking about. https://youtu.be/9HwfVPmFNlg there's really nothing to compare here. And i'm not saying chinese flawless.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

I don't know what Swedish feminism has to do with anything. A very random inference even though I agree it's an issue. Strange also how you've complained about western media all this time yet now you use it as a source. Very inconsistent.
But you can't really compare feminism within Sweden, which exists in all countries, with China's oppressive, propaganda filled and secret police regime. That's just ridiculous. The reason we have cause to really point a finger towards China is because their, "flaws", stand out in the world just like Russia's, or Iran's, "flaws" in terms of a repressive regime, draconian laws, and outsourcing of African countries. You can try to belittle it all you want. Facts are facts and do not change simply because you deny them.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

www.forbes.com/.../#55089c82758b An article on the topic of outsourcing as mentioned.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If you don't know what it has to do with it i'm talking about the flaws they have. It doesn't matter what kind of flaws you're talking about but i didn't ask for it and so do you. And yes the africa china propaganda. Just like what's the west basically do but yes they pretend they don't do it too.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yes they are investing in africa also offering them a good deal but so much better than terrorizing them like bombing Syria and iraq like what the west do.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

And what I said in my previous reply was that you can't seriously compare feminism with China's oppressive regime as if they are of equal gravity.

Give me any source that says the west outsources African nations. I'll gladly take a look at it.
And, "the west", bombing Syria and Iraq has to do with a war against IS, the most horrendous terrorist group in history. You'd further have to define what nations you include in the west, because practically only the US are engaging in military intervention.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

And the deals they offer are not good. They are to put African nations in debt and dependency to China. to shift the geopolitics.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And last I checked this isn't a contest really and I'm not comparing anything. Just accusing them of being terrorist is not an excuse to bomb them. And sure I'm not specifying exactly like how people don't specify the minority there. Just following their logic.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

I've never said anything is a contest.
This is the bottom line: No one is saying any country is flawless, but anger and trepidation towards China is justified because China has far bigger problems than most countries.

I trust you're not actually suggesting that ISIS, as in Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, who've been terrorizing the Middle East around the Nineveh plains for a decade, burning people alive, burying children alive, raping, enslaving, destroying monuments, are only *alleged* terrorists? In that case we have nothing more to talk about.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Another propaganda going on there. Spreading such just using medias doesn't make yours any different.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You're still talking about the minority tho and there's no reason to bomb innocent people there.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

And to claim that innocent people are the majority of those being bombed is too, vile propaganda. And frankly ignorant of the entire history of this conflict.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I'm just following your ignorance logic. Why not? If it's ok for you, so can I

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

That's fine if you're determined to not make any sense. In that case this debate is over.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And it doesn't take a genius. It's fine if you just wanna pretend

[silvermoon84]

I have nothing against Chinese people. I live in New York, the highest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the United States, and if I’m directing anger at anyone for COVID-19, it’s the Chinese government as I feel they could have handled the outbreak better than they did. Also, the Chinese government tried to blame the United States military for the coronavirus pandemic even though it was determined by the WHO that the virus originated in that Wuhan seafood market. In all though, I’m equally annoyed with President Trump for taking as long as he did to start preparing for the virus and now the number of confirmed cases in the US continues to rise at an alarming rate. We have over 10,000 cases in my state alone. I’m not one of those Americans however that condones hate crimes against Asian people or Asian Americans. I realize what’s happening in the world now is not the fault of the Chinese people.

Lastly I’m annoyed with some of my fellow New Yorkers for going out and not going into self quarantine like the government is telling us to do. The only way to slow down the spread of the virus is to stay home so just stay home until this passes over.

[Misterpoll]

Hi Aiko, interesting question, I try to answer you since I'm a psychologist, so the first thing I would like to tell you is that all the big countries are hated for different reasons, obviously the first is people's ignorance, but why do they hate? for historical rivalries reasons, cultural, political differences etc. all the big countries that are hated precisely because their citizens are everywhere, even the USA are very hated in the world.
About the Chinese products, I would say that if people buy very cheap products, it is normal that they are fragile, but there are a lot of quality Chinese products, just think of the great electronics brands, such as ASUS, Haier, JBL, Lenovo etc. About COVID-19 is started in china but i don't think it was the fault of the Chinese peoples there were planned actions by European and American masonry, but I don't want to go any further on this speech here. I don't care about what the Chinese eat, nothing changes if you eat beef or reptile meat etc., as you rightly said. BUT LET IT BE CLEAR I would like to tell you that hatred is now widespread for everything, if we talk about music, movies, clothing, sports, and everything related to culture. Over time groups and social subgroups that hate each other have been created, it is something you cannot fight alone, but each of us as a parent could teach their children that cultural or thought differences should not be hated to avoid conflicts, in short, just choose the people with whom to share your passions, thoughts, etc. we are not obliged to assert our culture over that of others; You should avoid peoples who hate cultural differences because they cause havoc in society, you can try to explain something to them if you have some friend who hate for the nationality etc. but if they don't understand, don't waste time, just leave them alone. I personally never hated a country or a culture, i just choose to deepen the cultures that interest me :-)

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I never said those other big countries aren't hated now did I? Not surprised tho but I'm still posting my point of view here. You can blame china but you can also blame other countries too. It's not only China's fault but I'm not even saying it's china's fault. It may start there but the cause is somewhere else. I'm making this mytake not to stress myself but because I have a lot of time here and I'm doing it for me and to trigger haters here.

[Misterpoll]

did u read what i've wrote? I didn't blame anyone, i love China XD, click on contunue reading

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I did read and I never said you.

[Electric_Dreams]

China is primarily responsible for the COVID death toll which is now over 1 million worldwide. They're primarily responsible due to their rampant negligence, oppression of essential information, progression of misinformation, and rampant lies.

Just because they've got it bad too, that has no relevance to the fact that they are to blame. China is the ONLY country, that could do this to the world. All the right conditions. Sure, many countries could start such a virus.. but it would not spread nearly as fast AND those countries are not such an essential part of the rampantly dysfunctional world economy. I say rampantly dysfunctional because China IS an essential part of the global economy, so much so that an abundance of other countries are highly reliant on China for essential products, and so what happens now? Well.. I don't gotta' say it, because it's happening.

After though, do the rest of the world's nations correct their economy by cutting out China and becoming self-sufficient again? .. that would be good right? Yeah but China would have a big problem with that, and might be inclined to go to war.

Cold hard facts are more than enough justification for me to have a huge problem with China as a nation. Not its people; many of the nations people are quite probably the most victimised by said nation.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It is also cold heart facts that your government also lie and hiding their flaws also to hide their debts. Making propagandas on how earth started even though there are more factors than that. Also i never said china isn't responsible i said they are but yours is too. As i have also stated there they're making china a dump site just because china accepts recycling their garbages.

[Electric_Dreams]

You are correct.. unfortunately all governments seem to have elements of corruption, lying, and destruction caused upon other nations.

China though.. well they really are a special kinda' corrupt and dangerous...

[theChineseWASP]

Death tolls are only 149,000 world wide right now not one million.

[Electric_Dreams]

@theChineseWASP Oh fuck, I have numeric dyslexia.. this kinda' shit happens all the time. I thought that seemed awful high for number of deaths. May be I was getting dead mixed up with infected though.. it could be that.

I love how you're the first person to have pointed out such an epic mistake that I made haha

[theChineseWASP]

Haha I also thought it was high so I double checked. Thank you.

[Electric_Dreams]

@theChineseWASP I kinda' wish I could delete or change it now because its misinformation.. all because I got my numbers mixed up HEY NOBODY BELIEVE THAT IDIOT (ME) WHO SAID DEATH TOLL WAS ONE MILLION.. I GET NUMBERS WRONG SOMETIMES..

I still stand by the rest of what I said.

[EricBooth999]

There are MANY reasons to hate the CCP, more than there are reasons to like them. It’s not even the Chinese people, although the majority of them have been brainwashed by the CCP and believe their country is the greatest place ever, content with their lack of freedoms. The Chinese people have a long, and beautiful history. On par with Europeans. I have no problem with them.

When it comes to the Covid-19 outbreak, it is China’s fault. If it came from a wet market, it’s China’s fault for allowing these places to exist in the 21st century. If it came from a Chinese lab as I believe it did, it’s also China’s fault and I have absolutely no problem blaming your government. You are all slaves to the CCP.

I honestly hope that one day the west comes together, to destroy the CCP and reinstate the ROC as the government of the mainland. If it must be done by force, then that is how it must be. Millions of Chinese would die which is a shame but the time is fast approaching for the destruction of your government.

If the call is ever made to take the fight to Xi Jinping himself, I will be among the first to stand up, fight, and probably even die for the freedom of the Chinese people. Democracy is not the greatest form of Government but at least we in the west have the freedom to do whatever we wish to, say whatever we wish to, without worrying about being thrown into a camp or something.

Quit defending your garbage government, they have done nothing but oppress you. The CCP uses propaganda to make you believe they care about you. They certainly learned well from Dr. Goebbels, Premier Stalin, and Chairman Mao.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

There are also many reasons to hate your governments too like making propagandas to hide their flaws and debts. And you don't think the world news controlled by one country has brainwashed the world. I'm not defending the "garbage government" they have however I'm pointing out the hypocrisy

[EricBooth999]

All governments lie. Not everybody can handle the truth without becoming a threat, all governments know this. All governments have their flaws. There is a huge hypocrisy when it comes to the media and how they talk about China but the Chinese media does the same. The goal of every government is to ensure their people are content, and part of that stems from having enemies of your state, and allies.

For the US citizens this is Russia and for the Chinese, it is the American people.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But after all this mytake is made for one sided haters who got brainwashed by medias made by racists not exactly defending the chinese government.

[yucychan]

Definitely, there are some things that the Chinese government and local officials could have done better to control the situation. However, as of now, where the virus have spread everywhere already, just simply blaming China for everything is not helping at all. No one wants this pandemic to occur, much less the Chinese.
We need to move on and protect our loved ones, take good care of hygiene, avoid large crowds and travelling for the time being etc.
Of course, there are always gonna be people who are using this virus to justify their hatred and discrimination towards China. And probably not only China, but towards all Asians in general. I saw news that a Singaporean guy was beaten up in UK by a local group for no good reason other than his skin color, accusing him of having the virus which he didn't. I'm quoting this example because it is not an isolated case. I know cases where people where people are just calling out Asians (specifically Orientals) accusing them of spreading the disease when they are not even from Mainland China, they just accuse them simply because they look Chinese.

As one who has been discriminated before just because of my skin color, it really sucked. I don't get to choose to be white, black, yellow, red or purple. So the hate just makes no sense. I just hope that this virus dies off soon and everyone is safe.

In the meantime, listen to some Jamiroquai. I just simply love Jay Kay.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LHj_WC_IzFc

[Agamogenesis]

lol thanks.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Well I definitely disagree with the Chinese government on their human rights record and especially the Uyghur situation in China.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to be racist to the Chinese. You can't stereotype a whole ethnic group of people, or a whole nation based on the bad things you hear. There's good and bad in all communities.

And I tend to go by MLK's quote: "Judge a person by the content of their character". You can't judge somebody just because they're Chinese- their ethnicity doesn't speak for them.

I find the excuse "Chinese is a nationality not a race" stupid. Because Chinese can also be an ethnicity too- and Chinese people all around the world are facing racism due to COVID-19.

The virus is no excuse for racism. Racism will not solve a global pandemic and it won't get rid of it either and it doesn't help- you can't blame every single Chinese person for COVID-19, that's absurd.

All I can tell you today is to stay strong in a time like this. I'm a British Pakistani Muslim and I've had my fair share of stereotyping too- especially on G@G. You know, the old "Muslims are terrorists" or "Pakistanis are terrorists" and they just assume all sorts from their uneducated minds. Honestly, the amount of stereotypes I've come across for Muslims and Pakistanis is so much. I actually wrote a MyTake about it myself a while ago: The Reality of Being a British Pakistani Muslim Girl.

The problem with the Sinphobes, the racists, the Islamophobes is they're ignorant and they aren't even willing to learn about another culture or a different set of beliefs. Their minds are too small to comprehend, that just because two people look similar doesn't mean they're the same. They're not very bright in the first place.

[opnbuk59]

I can understand how you feel you love your country as you should once you start bad mouthing your Homeland on foreign soil your showing your lack of love and support for it feeling national pride gives you a good feeling inside but again i agree with you about one country being better than another no person on this planet is better than the other this craziness need to stop just look at what is really going on around the world we are so divided, governments of most Nations secretly devising ways to kill each other why to be number one the best that's ignorant we all of us around the world yes we have varied lifestyles cultures but that's the beauty to come together share each other's cultures not look down upon elevate yourself above others and it's not about which country produce this or that we are dependent on each other and all this wanting to destroy another country people just why look at us now the whole world lock in doors what purpose does it solve, or servers and who gives a dam which country is better what good is it when you destroy our only home we got, it has to stop why can't people of this world learn to just work together come together sure some countries have it better than others so why watch another who isn't as fortunate suffer instead of building up their country to same standard as yours this hate saddens me hate because you don't look like me ignorant, no one is hating on China but yes you produce low priced products for us to buy but this is another deadly virus coming from China in how many years and no one country is innocent this should be a wake up call of all people of every nation to tell their leaders enough, no more wars no more destruction people just want to live their lives raise their family enjoy what was created for us stop wasting billions on weapons take care of what cares for us please enough already try peace

[Daniel3035]

I find it soo funny how you're using the idea of " I don't stop them is because we're not a supremacist. We just like to respect their point of view and culture." what about Muslims then are you respecting their views and culture?
https://www.BBC.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-50511063
Nope.
As typical Chinese people always full of it ironically the only race to have a flat face yet are two-faced.
You justify eating shit by saying a small minority of uneducated individuals do it? That's like saying a man killed a woman yesterday so I can do it? If those tribes etc knew it could cause them disease would they do it? Probably not. Ironically you should know after SARS that these animals cause disease but do you learn? No.
Please leave and stop justifying your weird eating fantasies we wouldn't be in this if not for your people.
I don't even think your like us you look different for one I mean who else on this planet has a face like yours and think differently how many of us look at stuff like bats and think mmmm yummy? No one but your kind.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yeah they're muslims respecting their point of views and cultures doesn't mean it's not ok to defend yourself if you're going to be a victim of it. If they believe killing humans and terrorizing is a good thing, defending our territory is a right because not belief is affecting us. What are we even to defend on our selves about the chinese point of view? I find it funny how your nation is trying to be a nationalist or a conservative because they don't like their skin colors or culture to change but they judge and, terrorize and invade on other countries anyway. Funnily hypocritical.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Except are the even doing the disease intentionally? It's just you assuming that sars actually came from those animals. But it came from sick animals before you start strawmanning and your swine flu isn't different. Yes and looking for more excuses to be racist like your racial shooting biases which you try to justify a lot.

[Daniel3035]

But you just said you're a dog lover too? So if they're harming dog they're victimising your opinion.
And where exactly have Muslims attacked you? I have never seen in the news china bombed by Taliban or isis if you can call them Muslim. In fact, it actually says in the Qur'an it is forbidden to kill a person so I don't know what you're talking about.
You find it funny how my nation? Sorry, which nation? There's a lot of nations and actually us democrats call that a country. And I don't know what you're talking about not liking to change skin colours? Here in the UK, we have different cultures from all over Christians, Muslims and actually many Chinese as well especially students so I don't know what you're talking about. We were about let your company Huawei install 5g in our country clearly that was a mistake.

[Daniel3035]

Ummm actually yes you are by law you can do something intentionally even if you do not know it. If you eat food that can cause a pandemic then you did do it intentionally if you have to climb a wall would you use your hands or a ladder?
Assuming SARS came from an animals? We know it comes from an animal because that is how bacteria mutates we have scientist who tested animals and they came back positive.
But I agree with you you're a very clever man, "respecting their point of views and cultures doesn't mean it's not ok to defend yourself if you're going to be a victim of it. If they believe killing humans and terrorizing is a good thing, defending our territory is a right because not belief is affecting us"
We now respect the Chinese point of view but we want to defend ourself. If you believe eating food unhealthy for humans to eat and believe putting other humans in danger is a good thing then defending our territory is right too. Here in the UK and USA, we will now put all you Chinese in concentration camps and have you re-educated on what is good to eat so you will not put another human in danger again.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Sure I am but I'm not gonna be judging them. "they're victimising your opinion." <-- Their victimizing your opinion not mine. It's just how you strawman that I like dogs as pet and it already means chinese eating dogs affects me too. Also I had a pet chicken but I also eat chicken. Those are 2 different things and you just failed to learn the difference. And you don't know what I'm talking about and it doesn't take a genius to understand that's just an example. Like how people make stereotypes about muslims being terrorists. You finding it funny is something to laugh at when you even don't know what I'm talking about.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's not the kind of food itself but the quality of it the eater didn't know. Because swine flew from america exist, should we all stop eating pork? Or should we all stop eating pork with swine flew in it? Those are 2 different things.

[Daniel3035]

But you just judged us 😂 for protecting ourself?
And that is exactly what I just said so you admit it. You had a pet chicken and ate a pet chicken? Your right they're different you don't eat your pets...
I think you don't understand because your argument is my argument you just verified my argument lool.
Like how people stereotype Muslims as terrorists? Did you not say Muslims kill people and think it's good? You are right funnily hypocritical.

[Daniel3035]

Well, in that case, I can say it's not about pigs from America but the quality. Point is you did know these animals can cause disease like SARS you made the same mistake twice. Swine flu came from birds something you shouldn't eat the birds passed it to pigs and pigs to people that's the difference we did not eat birds.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Did I say you? I'm talking about people making excuses so there goes your straw man fallacy. "You had a pet chicken and ate a pet chicken?" And you're having problems with it not my problem and that's what I'm talking about strawman fallacy. "Did you not say Muslims kill people and think it's good? You are right funnily hypocritical." Im using people's notions as an example and yeah that's like the 3rd time you've strawman in your new responses so far. " I can say it's not about pigs from America but the quality" So basically what im trying to say. It's not the animal they eat but the quality. But it's just you generalizing that all of what they eat isn't edible and causing diseases

[jeemm]

I love most Asian cultures, traditions and countries including China. That being said the thing about some Chinese people consuming dogs isn't just about food... They boil them alive and/or beat them to death while there are multiple of more preferable and humane options they could choose instead to put the animal down. I don't know how small of a minority of people it is that do those things but it certainly does exist and it's supposedly something of a tradition or a celebration or a festival type of thing that doesn't exist anywhere else in the whole as far as I know. You can google stuff like "Chinese boiling dog alive". Those that even end up on the internet are a small portion of them.

My opinion was only about this as I believe the virus situation to be something that could happen in a multiple of other countries.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well of course that is a flaw than they have but again it's not just china who do it but other tribes too. Well yes be can be inhumane but that don't harm other human beings like what other countries do that just shoot anyone for their race, school shooting, they try to be conservatives because they don't like their country to change culture and their race and skin color but they terrorize and invade other countries anyways because supremacy. Not better than boiling dogs alive. That's why despite that China is a peaceful country because they respect each other no matter how inhumane you think they are.

[888theGreat]

Your defense is , yea they kill millions of people , but it they could kill 10's of millions of people. Great defense.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@888theGreat in your strawman fallacy. Guess that's what you're only good at.

[Janishope20]

Well no doub that we in the west have finally found out that we'd been builded up an Frankenstein out of controle. The sad story is that every westeren country had trown billions into China, and closed there eyes for the fact that China still is a Regime controlled by the Comminist party, with no absolute no kind of democraty, so only a little child must belive information from China, only thing we know is the planted the Virus in Europe, and then suddelly were able to reduse the virus in China. Guess Trumph were right all the time , to be aware of everything China do. But when this horrible pandemi is over and the West has overcome the worst fears and their economies have recovered some of the many billions of euros it will cost. Then one must hope that the childish belief that globalization is only good will be over and that we start to concentrate on creating jobs in the West, and not in the East, and at the same time we begin to be far more cautious about leaving production of everything to Chinese. This will certainly require a decade of slow growth, but this will be well spent in the long run.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Oh Trump sure predicted that when because he knows how much trashes he put there. But still tho trump owes them trillions of dollars in debt

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And talking about the virus is a way to hide that

[Janishope20]

I'd think only brained washed chinese , think this thing happend by accident, knowing the Chinese regime wouldn't mind killing a thousand of there own , to make things look as an accident, but its hard to belive that if so the virus suddenly ended so fast.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Because it happened accidentally and not intentionally. It's not like china is the only country exempted by it. In fact there are way more people dying there than in yours. If you think it's brainwashed chinese who say those were accidental, don't you even consider yourself brainwashed with your media?

[iOoko]

it ended after everyone was quarantined. it wasn't easy

[AllThatSweetJazz]

I don't really care about eating dogs, and I'm not super bothered by the products.

These are pathetic excuses for excusing China from being hated.

These are trivial compared to the bullshit they do on the reg and it is perfectly valid to shit on China.

I don't blame the Chinese people for what the Chinese government does. That's the problem, the government. Ignoring WHO rules, ignoring intellectual property laws, currency manipulation, the freaking Uyghurs, military expansion into atolls in the South China sea, veiled threats, all the other viruses out of China and now this thing? Nuh uh, not cool, no sir.

If eating dogs and cheap products are the best you can come up with as to why people are hating on China then please fkn spare us. We don't need to hear it.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You mean you don't need to hear it. Only people who gets brainwashed by media and are you even one?

[AllThatSweetJazz]

"You mean you don't need to hear it."
Correct.. and the majority of the population... basically anyone who has even glanced at china.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And did I say this is for the majority of the population? No. This is made "specially" for them.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

So you made it for the sinophilic gimps to all come in for a circle-jerk?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well it's their choice if they just wanna come here to be triggered. I'm prepared for it

[AllThatSweetJazz]

If they're going to come and jack off with you about how wonderful China is then why would they be triggered?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I can also ask why would someone who's triggerer jack off about how wonderful China is?

[Izumiblu]

Uhh the world did not make China take garbage or manufacture stuff. China’s economy is largely based on their cheap labor a market which is controlled by the CCP

The CCP intentionally misinformed the world on what was taking place regarding wuhan virus. They will pay the price for it too because it’s going to force America and the EU to diversify their supply chains. India and Brazil are nicely poised to take advantage.

Truth is there is no significant racism towards the Chinese people that manifests in a globally harmful way. It’s the gross dishonesty and malfeasance of the CCP that is harmful to Chinese people.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"made in China" actually is the most common thing you find in markets, clothing stores, machine shops or whatever. You are not making us indeed but you're still our customers though. But nope we're not doing it anymore that's why we're not accepting it. Also before you start strawmanning about "making china do it" you make with reserved for you but that's not automatically make them slaves. Not only their labor is cheap but the world orders a lot from them.

[Izumiblu]

They can choose not to do it. The CCP chooses to position the labor market of China as a competitive advantage and they structure their policy to keep it competitive so we in the west will continue to buy it. The entire supply chain of the world is built this way. The only slaves in this are the slaves created by the CCP, in forced labor situations. Otherwise it’s all entirely voluntary from both sides. And you’ll continue doing it to the extent you can because that’s what your government wants.

Also China isn’t a majority of goods in American markets. Our imports in total were $3.1T of which China was less than $600B.

Even as we have reduced our trade with China through our policy our economy has done quite well. China’s economy has been anemic and the wuhan virus situation has only served to expose the CCP for what it is. The world will continue to diversify out if China became the government cannot be trusted there.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"They can choose not to do it" While that's an option, there is also an option not to depend on China's landfill then later blame them for pandemic. I mean it's partly their fault but that doesn't mean others don't take responsibility for it. If it started in your place because China refused, it won't make it any better. www.theglobeandmail.com/.../ If you don't see "made in china" often, there are also chances that America may have imported from other countries that also sourced form China. Even sources came from there just to be reassembled in other countries and have it re branded.

[Izumiblu]

The two are not related. That’s just ridiculous.

It started in wuhan. They CCP deliberately lied about it. It has nothing to do with mutually agreed contracts and services.

No where in anyone’s mind does it say in exchange for goods and services the world must pretend the CCP isn’t a bunch of lying shitheads

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's a factor actually. And how is it actually a fact that the CCP lie when the CNN also creates fake news? That's not making them any different.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I meant fake news to hide their debts to china from the world

[Izumiblu]

Most people recognize the difference between a people and their government. I quite like China , the people. I quite dislike some cultural
Practices and the CCP. I’ve traveled to many areas of China. I’ve been to wuhan. I have very fond memories and experiences there. With the people I met and worked and socialized with. Me pointing out that China bears responsibility for much of what is happening in regards to this virus does not change that for me. It merely recognizes that things need to change there in response to what has happened. I don’t expect the CCP will improve. I believe they will double down and become less open and more restrictive The people really can’t do much about it quickly.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Sure their government has flaws and so do yours so there's really nothing to judge about the country.

[Izumiblu]

You are making the argument that because a country has flaws you cannot say that you demand better than to be exposed to a pandemic because of a governments desire to protect its image.

That’s so petty and dysfunctional. Are the Chinese so weak they cannot stand to be better than that?

You complain about others being hateful to the Chinese. I think you are more hateful to them than I am. I recognize they can and should do better. You expect that they be given a pass so their feeling don’t get hurt. You should be ashamed.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I'm making the argument for those excuses people make. And are they even weak that you really think I'm standing up for them? Actually no just giving my point of view and pointing out how they get judged while they're basically the same. I'm not demanding anything here but it's up to them to be supremacist and make excuses. But ironically saying "so that their feelings don't get hurt" basically like you taking my mytake personally saying "i should be ashamed"

[Izumiblu]

Not sure what you’re talking about.

You’re basically saying the world should just accept what’s happened from China without being critical toward China because no one is perfect

^^that is the definition of dysfunction and it’s very reductive. You are standing up for no one except your own hurt feelings. You want to help the Chinese people? Expect their government to do better. Expect that they can handle criticism just like anyone else. Don’t single them out like children and demand they be treated with special sensitivity because they can’t handle being treated like anyone else. It’s insulting and hateful because the Chinese are perfectly capable of the same demands anyone else is.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It doesn't take a genius.

In how you straw man, shall we just go with that one? "You are standing up for no one except your own hurt feelings." Like really you can assume my feelings are hurt here when there are no name callings and ad hominems going on here but you assuming however just means you're talking it personally. Assumptions are based on feelings and feelings aren't logical so that's for assuming I'm hurting my own feelings here. I had things to back up there not feelings but data

[Agamogenesis]

I partly agree and partly disagree with Izamiblu. The responsibility lies on the government to fix things however the real culprits were a minority of uneducated people that consumed and trafficked wild animals. I think blaming the CCP for everything is too harsh since we can see the government in Italy and the U. S. failing just as badly to contain the spread if not worse. The blame for this epidemic is for a minority of uneducated people who traffic animals, often illegally. But it is certainly the CCP's responsibility to see that this situation is fixed. It was supposed to be fixed after the SARS epidemic but education and enforcement was not strict enough. Hopefully after this incident the response will be more permanent.

Anyway my main point is that I somewhat agree.

[Agamogenesis]

Also @Aiko I think you do a little too much back and forth with people it's honestly embarassing. SOrry just saying...

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You "think" so that doesn't mean "actually" maybe embarrassing for you probably because you just don't comprehend anything here. Sorry just saying

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If you're going to complain about me repeating same arguments over and over again then people are also repeating the same argument over and over again so if they can do it i can too. Whoever said i can't? this isn't a reaction paper that i have to explain everything with my feelings but i'm going with data

[andreasderjuengere]

'Hate' is a tool for the intellectually poor.
I do have a number of points where I don't agree with Chinese culture, or ways of economical procedures.
But my 'hate' would not give a solution to any of those; it rather produces even MORE problems.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yes that's it people can't just disagree but they just choose to be haters to make themselves seem cool.

[andreasderjuengere]

Seeing a downvote: let me add that the cowards and the frightened ones also use hate as a tool.
Many 'westerners' are living in a 'bi-polar' world; only the extremes count. Compromise is not an option.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The only thing truly wrong with China, is the CCP. Period. Every other issue can be resolved with time, patience, etc. But the CCP is the leftovers of Mao, who took after Stalin. So it's Stalin's evil, rehashed, just with a different ethnic flavor.

I've met many Chinese who don't like the ruling party. And I'm convinced if it weren't for communism, the world would feel very differently about China. But as long as the CCP exists, China remains a global threat. The CCP is basically organized crime. It'd be no different than a country being taken over by the Mafia, except the Mafia is usually a little wiser about system resources.

[JimmyQ]

Dude, save your energy. It is a pretty well known revelation that China is the BEAST that has been foretold in the Book of Revelations.

You worship the dragon (Satan).

You kill and/or imprison any spiritual leaders who openly preach Salvation through Jesus Christ.

You kidnap children to sell their organs on the open market.

Human beings mean nothing to you, except maybe a hearty meal when cooked to suit your taste.

And yes, it is a known fact that your people created this virus with the intent to murder as many people as possible.

So, you don't like it. Tough toenails. Go peddle your propaganda somewhere else.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

In your belief the dragon is satan and little do you know christianity is actually spreading their. The kidnapping of children part actually a minority there in crime is actually everywhere in the world because there is also a child molesters in your place who killed children afterwards. So you go peddle your propaganda elsewhere

[behnam1999]

First, to all those who are babbling about Democracy and such things... I have to say there is no real Democracy in the world.. And even some of the countries that are famous for their Democracy and Freedom are not democratic and free really!

Second.. I do not think that a democratic government is the best type of government. It's all about majority.. And it only works when the majority of people are all knowers and literate in terms of politics and can make the best dicisions.. The best decision does not have anything to do with the minority or the majority.. It does not have anything to do with numbers. Democracy is more idealistic than being realistic.

[behnam1999]

Third, so many countries that US claims are dictatorships... are not really dictatorships.. Even if they are a dictatorship.. US caring about human rights and bringing liberty to other countries is a joke.. Qaddafi was said to be a dictator.. I do not have enough information to say if he was or not.. Anyway, Americs didn't like him.. America claimed it wanted to bring democracy to Libya.. But today.. Take a look at their country.. It's divided into two parts, eastern and western and they are killing each other and their weapons come from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and US.. America doesn't want a safe world..

So please do not blame China for not being democratic.. Because I do not believe you.