How Men and Boys Should Be Treated

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Just a short MyTake for those people who think they know how men should be treated. I've been seeing a lot of them lately so it's time I make this MyTake.

Almost all of you are pretty much aware about men's suicide rate being 3-4 times higher than women's right? A common speculation people have is "because they don't show feelings and society shames them for doing it" That's partly true. But there's more to that. Men lacks the appreciation while being pressured to strive. Despite all their hard work and no appreciation, if they show feelings just once, it's all shame. That's once cause and what lots of guys had been through growing up. Telling men to man up isn't exactly wrong but doing it wrong makes it wrong like how society usually do it and manning up became like a stigma for some people that they believe that's always the way people tell men to man up so that's why they think it's all toxic. But you know on contrary, another cause of men's suicide is also caused by some people who say they should open up and it's ok not to man up. It just makes men feel even more useless and that's basically telling them that they're defeated and there's nothing they can do. When a man fails at something, there's a difference between telling him "There there, it's ok to cry" and to give them any suggestions on what should work, give constructive criticism and encourage him "You can do it! You almost did it the last time!". Showing support is different from letting them open up and vent which would bring them lower like what happened to many soy boys today. Teaching men to find solution instead of being letting them emotional and appreciating them is suppose to be how you treat men. Even the his smallest achievement appreciated can encourage him to do more. That's how men should be told to man up.

[HighlyVolatile]

Nice take! One of the unfortunate problems I see these days is that "man up" seems to have become conflated with "don't show emotion". I don't know how people arrived at that.

I always interpreted the saying as more like, "Don't dwell on these problems and the negativity associated. Think positively and work on finding a solution."

[HighlyVolatile]

It's like the people who mistake what "man up" these days got their cues more from Rambo than Rocky if I use a popular cultural reference. Rocky epitomizes what "man up" truly means here as I see it:
https://youtu.be/D_Vg4uyYwEk

[HighlyVolatile]

* It's like the people who mistake what "man up" [means] these days got their cues more from Rambo than Rocky [...]

[HighlyVolatile]

Also, the encouraging way you suggest is the right way as I see it from a psychological perspective:
https://youtu.be/UgVA6nXCj1U

[whirled_up_girl]

I like your mytake. I might not want to tell a person they shouldn’t cry if they’re sad as it is a normal human emotion. However, you brought up a good example of how it’s important for men to lift up other men with positivity. I think lifting each up in our peer groups particularly within our gender is important.

[OlderAndWiser]

I think if you compare the rate of suicide attempts, women make more attempts than men. If you look at the method of suicide employed, men typically choose much more lethal methids of suicide, so they make fewere attempts but are far more successful than women.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I forgot to mention society just rarely address their issues. Again because of the shame for being expressive about it. So that could mean even men's attempt can be ignored until they succeed. Because anything that needs to suceed, there's always an attempt. So yeah men may also have many attempts except they suceed.

[hahahmm]

It's because a lot of these men & boys are confused. If they simply stayed true to traditional masculinity & stopped trying to act like women and please women they'd be fine. Men & boys shouldn't try to be females in any way. I wrote a mytake on that topic once.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's not only guys who are confused but its also society who treats them are also confused

[hahahmm]

Yes but society is made up of people. A lot of simps are running the courts and social programs, along with a lot of man hating women.

[hahahmm]

Not to mention schools where the teachers are like 98% women. And foolish parents let these teachers raise their kids because mom & dad are too busy/lazy to do much of that themselves.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I'm not saying they're not made up of people. I'm saying society it's because it's not gender specific so i'm also including women in this. Unless you disagree, you're just one sided.

[hahahmm]

I've said many times on gag that not all women are the problem. The funny thing is that around 50% of women agree 100% with traditional ideas but if I speak them I'm called "sexist" by certain women.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But did I say all women are the problem? You see, i'm not mentioning any genders from the start but as soon as you like to point out men, then i can also point out women because why not? does it only matter if you address men being the cause?

[hahahmm]

Sounded like you were saying I was being one-sided to be pro male but I guess actually you thought I was being anti-male or something. Dunno. It's all good.

[notwoke]

we should make scholarships and job set asides for women only then let the women drop out of the work force at will to be mothers by creating the expectation that men be the breadwinners. Makes perfect sense if you want to fuck society up and create poverty

[Anonymous]

A man being emotional is a red flag to a woman. She might have sympathy but she won't find it sexy which is one of the reasons I suspect the divorce rate is so high.

Men aren't always being told not to cry, some learn by example.