Why I Think Trump Will Win Re-Election (Even Though I Don’t Want Him To)

[ManOnFire]

I am a moderate Democrat. That means I pretty much stand in the middle and see both sides in some of the Democrat and Republican arguments. I don’t support or believe in Donald Trump and won’t be voting for him now or ever. I also don’t believe in Kamala Harris and I don’t feel like she will be a very strong leader in spite of her aggressive mom-like speaking. I personally feel that neither of these people will be a good direction for America or the world, as I also continue to get a foreboding sense that darker days are ahead for this country. What they are, I don’t know. But I’ve learned to trust my senses, and the older I get, the less wrong I am.

Trump still maintains a strong following

In spite of all Trump’s lies, misconduct, and all the terrible things he’s said about disabled people, blacks, women, and veterans, he unfortunately still has the favor of a lot of people who choose to look past those things. Conservatives, especially southern ones and evangelicals, will still vote for ignorance as long as it supports their own biases and ideas.

We have seen that 4 years later, Trump still stands strong when we thought it would be the end once Biden got in office. But instead Trump boomeranged back and refused to die like Thanos at the end of Avengers: Infinity War. And the sad part is that no matter how much Democrats fought and still fight to take him under with all kinds of legal issues, or trying to get him on any kind of sexual abuse or misconduct he’s had with women, none of it really matters in the face of his voters. We’ve also seen a lot of black people - both men and women, Latinos, and white southern or evangelical women also stand their ground in supporting him.

Kamala also stands strong…but how much?

No doubt, Kamala has a good amount of followers and there is definitely support out there for her. Question is: just how much really? I think the media, which is still largely Democrat-run and influenced, is building her up to be stronger or more present in the polls than she really is. I also think most people still don’t really know a lot about her as far as she is vice president, was an attorney general, and had a relationship with San Francisco mayor Willie Brown in the late 90s, which some people have tried to use to sink her ship.

I understand that she has to work harder to show herself as strong and use her aggressive speaking because she is not only a woman but a black woman in the midst of a largely white frat boy club that runs the government, and then she will have to face the even larger frat boy clubs of world governments if she wins the election, especially those of meek and self-righteous Europe that often tries to act like they’re better than America but sits around and waits for us to call the shots in world issues before they decide what they’re going to do. How will they behave when a black woman is in charge of those shots?

I don’t think the results will be good either way

I personally don’t vote, though I’ve only ever done it once, and very likely won’t be doing it again. I do not believe in our world’s political systems and don’t believe politicians are in much control of anything. Corporations and forces of great wealth and darkness are what largely make the decisions in this world. Politicians just act like they are the authority. I’m not going to tell anyone not to vote, it’s your right. But if you really want to stop Trump and you really believe in Kamala, then you should do what you feel is best and vote. I don’t think the future will necessarily be better under either one of them.

As unfortunate as it is and terrible to say, I don’t think Kamala will win largely because she is black and female. Even in 2024. You still have many men who are both white and black Republicans that hate the idea of her being president and will work overtime at the polls even harder than they did when Biden ran. Another issue is that the Democrats keep pairing up Trump against women candidates, which is one of the reasons why the party is failing. It spends too much time trying to represent black/woman/sexual orientation as our party’s values or as formidable opponents, instead of putting in more time trying to be aggressive about the real issues. Republicans typically do not regard women and non-white people highly, so Democrats make the game easier for Trump to win.

If Kamala does win, it will be good in the sense that Trump is defeated again, but I still don’t think her own administration will do much better for America or the rest of the world.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump's following is due to Americans' having been dumbed down by their "mis-education" system which teaches them to be obedient, competitive robots of their immoral "Winner take all" society, plus social media which has basically further turned citizens against each other.

[beefcakebradybatson]

As my mother used to tell my sisters and me (re. Trump's possible election),"Be careful what you wish for, you may get it!!!"

[Snakeyes7]

"Mis-education"? You mean the refusal to live under a big brother telling us what it true and what isn't at the risk of social or even legal consequences?

I'd say that's a legitimate reason not to vote for Harris.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Snakeyes7 "Big Brother?" Wait until crypto-Fascist Project 2025 strips rights from all but rich cisgender straight white males, boyo !!!

[Snakeyes7]

You just mashed a bunch of buzzwords together and you sound absolutely insane.

Trump left the LGBT alone on his first term as he said he would and he has not said anything to threaten anyone else besides people who have broken laws that have long been left unenforced and has put many Americans in danger.

[Snakeyes7]

If you want to say that I am losing my mind for mentioning a "Big Brother," then I assume you have been sleeping under a rock when the democrats have done nothing but screech about "misinformation" and their desire to censor it ever since COVID.

Kamala Harris advocated for state regulation of what is said on social media, which the first amendment forbids: “The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power. They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop.”

apnews.com/.../kamala-harris-elon-musk-x-twitter-rfk-c7d6ca7cda02e29cb6acc5ad25d3d6dc

Hillary Clinton advocates throwing "misinformation spreaders" in prison, 1st amendment violation:

“I also think are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda, and whether they should civilly, or even in some cases criminally charged, is something that would be a better deterrent,”

www.yahoo.com/.../...mericans-share-150735862.html

John Kerry wants the 1st amendment abolished entirely: “You know, there’s a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you’re going to have some accountability on facts, etc. But look, if people only go to one source, and the source they go to is sick, and, you know, has an agenda, and they’re putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of existence."

These people are directly going against the very reason why we haven't succumbed to fascism and those who cheer for this won't realize the freedoms they had until it is too late.

[Snakeyes7]

www.msn.com/.../ar-AA1rCgC2

[MisterWack]

I’m a former Trump supporter and I endorse Kamala Harris! I endorse Kamala Harris!

The alternative is someone who doesn’t keep an Oath to the US Constitution of preserving, protecting, and supporting THE SACRED DOCUMENT our Founders created & had every govt official swear an oath towards and all our veterans & service members risk their lives and die for. His reasons are only validated by his own false pretenses which also breaks the part of his Oath to faithfully execute the office of President & do it to the best of his abilities. Mike Pence was the one to send the National Guard on January 6th, not this disgrace meaning he didn’t even try to do it to the best of his abilities:

“Allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in The Constitution.”

Border Funding Bill that would not only increase the number of border agents on the southern border also increase the paid wages of those that work tirelessly on strict hours at the southern border in extremely hot & tiring & stressful conditions every single day, and install Fentanyl Detectors at every single crossing checkpoint along the Southern Border to prevent more smuggling of the deadliest drug in this country. Trump was the one who killed that bill that would help solve the Migrant Crisis & Drug Crisis unlike his Broken Down Wall from 2016 playbook left in ruins:

Kamala Harris vows to reintroduce the bill above then sign it into law once reaches her desk.

Remember how he promises to be tough on China? Answer:

He wasn’t then, he sure as Hell ain’t going to be now.

Chips and Science Act passed by The Democratic Majority (which was slimmer than the Republican majority in 2017) creates millions of manufacturing jobs of microchip technology which directly competes with China for control of the global & local markets which will bring hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs which strengthens the economy. GM, Microsoft, and even the South Korean govt has helped fund this all for the express purpose of taking on China.

Pact Act created veteran benefits never seen before and more accessible than ever before too under Democratic Majority.

2026 Drug Cost Cuts take into effect thanks to Democratic Majority.

Donald Trump is serving himself and the MAGA Party all serve Trump for his benefit while Kamala Harris, Tim Walz and Democratic Party have only ONE CLIENT: The American People. 🇺🇸

VOTE Kamala Harris! VOTE Kamala Harris!

[MisterWack]

Tax breaks (taxes decreased under Tim Walz), Child Tax Credit (increased under Tim Walz), 15 week Paid Parental leave for Amazon Warehouse Workers, Hospital & Nursing Home Staff, and School Faculty, Increasing Minimum Wage, etc.(all Under Tim Walz)

Now let’s talk about Kamala Harris’ record: Chips And Science Act for Technology Based Manufacturing Jobs (Microchips To Out Compete China), Pact Act for Millions of Veterans to receive the benefits they deserve for putting their life on the line every day for our freedoms, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (Helps rebuild our Infrastructure), and so much more.

[mobiusforniner]

I will refrain from any political bias, and only quote Lincoln’s Gettysburg address, as reminder to all Americans out there, the first word in this great nation’s name, is “United”.

Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives, that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth

[exitseven]

Kamala was an Affirmative Action hire 4 years ago. Biden promised a black woman to be VP and the choice came down to Harris and Stacey Abrams. She is even crazier that Harris. She has failed at everything she was supposed to do. The southern border is her most spectacular failure. It costs taxpayers almost a half TRILLION dollars to support all these freeloaders in 2023. This year it will be more.

She either cannot answer or refuses to answer any questions regarding the economy. she just say she will create a "Opportunity Economy" She has not said who it will be an opportunity for. She talks about amnesty not deportations when asked about illegal aliens. She night as well say that she will not do a single thing to secure the border besides hand out more welfare benefits.

An administration with her as Commander in Chief will be a continuation of Biden's failed policies only with cackling.

I am finding hard to imagine that Trump will be able to win this election, not because Americans do not want him to be their president but the election will be fixed and Harris will be installed by the people that really run the world.

[Anonymous]

I'll have to disagree with you on the terrible things he's said about disabled people, blacks, women, and veterans when he's never said anything of the sort that wasn't taken out of context

there's disabled people, blacks, women and veterans who support Trump, some of them are a part of his past and future administrations

Trump at worst is a politically incorrect douchebag with the "toxic masculinity" who is easy to become a lightning rod for all sorts of labels from racist to sexist to homophobic etc. whereas Democrats have historically hidden their bigotry behind social justice causes to appear morally superior

if his entire voter base was just straight white evangelical men, he'd never win any election. the things he's accused of only came when he was running for president. before that Trump was beloved by the media. CNN, The View, Ellen Degeneres, Oprah and many more celebrated Trump and wanted him to run as a Democrat

now if you want to go all the labels Trump has been accused of, we can go down that road though you'll have to willing to open your mind

[Opinion Owner]

I'll like to add that Trump would win for these other reasons

1) Trump is campaigning much harder than Kamala individually speaking. his team is campaigning harder than Kamala's team minus the news media like Fox, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC.

2) Trump going into hostile territory/more willing to go into hostile territory than Kamala e. g. Trump showing up unannounced to the NABJ

3) changing of campaign atmosphere. Trump's campaign has remained consistent. Kamala's campaign went from happiness and joy to panic and divisive

[lightbulb27]

agree with a lot of that. I supported neither of the two. between two, Id rather tolerate trump on policies. kamala may be a smoother transition and trump a more painful 4 years socially.

I think Kamala wins in a tight race because of the young persons vote. Swifties and hollywood stars control a lot of minds. Key issues are abortion rights. If those voters get out and vote, I see harris win.

Trump rubs too many people the wrong way. It comes down to what influences for a few middle voters.

we shall see.

[ManOnFire]

This right here! You've got it totally right.

[JHNS98]

The fact that we call elections "races" and willsay that people "win" or "lose", should tell you everything wrong with politics. Treating the most important thing in a democracy like an ordinary competition is very diminutive. Just look at how politics have essentially become entertainment nowadays. Simplifying language around politics also distances the public and opens up the system to polarization.

Nothing against you, just a general point on the use of language surrounding politics. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft

[ManOnFire]

Funny you say that because I always thought the same thing too.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Kamala feels placed, fake, a full time politician representing the political machine. The thing is she represented it so long she has said and done a lot of crazy far left things that now moderates question.

Trump mostly does what he wants and caters to his right wing audience and rehashes his talking points which are divisive, making him usually loved like an idol or hated greatly.

I have neither view but illegal immigration is a legitimate problem in my New England town now, so Trump it is.

[ManOnFire]

You made excellent points. She is super fake and that's what bothers me.

[Smashingdoozy]

I don't disagree with you. Kamala is the better of the two just like Biden was the better of the two. None are perfect. Will there ever be a perfect candidate? Probably not. I don't agree with a lot of things Kamala stand for. But I don't agree with basically everything Trump stands for. So it's a no brainer.

I'm scared Trump will get in. I'm scared for my friends who still live there. I'm scared I won't be able to go back and see my goddaughter. I'm scared for my friends nieces and nephews who attend public schools because their parents don't have another option. I'm scared for my trans friends, the entire pride community. Everyone I know who's an immigrant who are already facing the hate that is spewed across the internet at them.

I'm just scared.

[Vegasrunner]

I agree 100%. It's even more bizarre because Democrats w/ Biden. It's as if they never learn their lesson and want this guy to win. I've said it a million times all they had to do was find a white man age 45 - 60 that could put together complete sentences and they would easily win. I will be casting my vote for Kamala, however I have little faith that she can win.

[msfuntastic]

They did that in 2004 and it didn't work at all.

[ManOnFire]

@msfuntastic That's because in 2004 W. Bush was an actual politician you could do hand to hand combat with. Trump could be easily defeated by another white male politician.

[Vegasrunner]

@msfuntastic Cheetoe did not run for president in 2004

[midnightmoon05]

Out of these 2… trump would be a better leader … that’s what we need…

harrise just doesn’t have the qualifications…

it’s like putting a kindergarten girl be in charge of 2nd grade kids… she just doesn’t have it. It’s that simple.

[msfuntastic]

Leading a mob on the capital to do violence, and being convinced of felony fraud, civilly liable for assault of a woman, is the sign of a good leader? But being a courtroom prosecutor, and attorney general of California, and then VP for 4 years don't cut it?

[midnightmoon05]

@msfuntastic what has she done as VP?

[midnightmoon05]

I don’t like a lot of each…
Dislike more of what her plans for us.

[midnightmoon05]

More of his plans are better for the country.

[Avicenna]

@midnightmoon05- apparently, she doesn't think we should, you know, actually examine Harris's record in a one-party state, much less her positions.

Anyone that wants to make US citizens out of tens of millions illegal invaders has automatically disqualified themselves from office.

[msfuntastic]

She dealt a lot of foreign relations thing like NATO, worked to help Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion. Researched the cause of the migrant influx and how conditions can be improved in central America so that people don't come here as much (and now they don't). Fought to expand voting rights for local elections. Helped establish a gun violence prevention admin which brought forth new laws and regulations, and more.

I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't wanna fork over $4,000 more a year because of the Trump tariffs on Chinese products, or see the department of education shut down, or loose the affordable care act, or see my parents social security and medicare being cut, or see a national abortion care ban.

[DrPepper12]

@Avicenna Damn!! I NEVER had you pegged for not only criticizing but disqualifying St Ronnie for POTUS!!

[midnightmoon05]

Most of her policy’s are to get votes.
And we will be in much worse if we continue to give out free money… in the long haul. Most who wants to vote for her are only seeing the surface of the issues we have been facing… not the depth of the real issues … I am not saying trump will be able to fix much in 4 yrs…. But for sure… she will drown us further.
@Avicenna yep!

[ManOnFire]

@msfuntastic "Researched the cause of the migrant influx and how conditions can be improved in central America so that people don't come here as much (and now they don't)."
- How so? Bukele in El Salvador made those changes, not Harris.

[Avicenna]

@DrPepper12: What a surprise- you love illegal invaders, no matter whether it’s Hamas invading Israel or the CCP, MS-13 or others.

Reagan got suckered by the Democrats, who promised border enforcement in return for legalizing 3 million illegals; the goal wasn’t unlimited immigration like it is for Harris and her puppeteers, and he had to give something in return. Harris isn’t even pretending there will be any enforcement, and the numbers of illegals are much, much higher, with continued unlimited immigration and naturalization the goal.

[Vegasrunner]

@midnightmoon05 The VIP doesn't do anything. That's a foolish statement that a bunch of morons have been brainwashed into saying.

[midnightmoon05]

@Vegasrunner she is another puppet.

[DrPepper12]

@Avicenna
Your words:
"Anyone that wants to make US citizens out of tens of millions illegal invaders has automatically disqualified themselves"
IDGAF about your excuses. The logical fact remains that YOU would disqualify Reagan! LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

[Avicenna]

@DrPepper12: LMAO, you are a good example of why leftist propagandists are so dishonest and anything but logical.

Can you point us to any evidence that Reagan actually wanted the illegals to become US citizens?

He didn‘t- he thought he was making a deal to prevent further illegal immigration. In contrast, leftists make it clear that they want „a path to citizenship“ for foreign rapists and gang members.

Do you know the difference between three million and tens of millions? I guess they don’t teach that at Hamas Propaganda School.

Finally, 1986 was a long time ago and the numbers of illegals have grown hugely since then, making the policy of deliberately bringing in unlimited numbers of illegals in violation of US law especially awful. It’s also a violation of the deal the Democrats made in 1986 promising to secure the border. We now know the Democrats are lying through their teeth whenever they claim they’ll enforce the existing laws mandating border enforcement.

In a nutshell, as usual, you’re full of BS.

[Vegasrunner]

@midnightmoon05 That's just something that losers who believe government is designed to fix their problems think.

[DaveJord]

The politics in country have neglected males, especially white males, in places were globalization has killed manufacturing jobs.

Men are a huge demographic, white males are still a majority. But you would not know that as you look into the democratic party. No body anders to white males there. The Dems pander to every demographic but one... white males and issues white makes care about. Like inflation, jobs with pensions, lower taxes. You wouldn't have to increase minnium wage if you cut taxes.

But Trump is a looney town. He's doing my damaged then good to my demographic. It's sad, depressing, and yeah... if your white male... might as well move to Canada. United States is not a friendly place... the women don't respect you as a man, white equates to racists or privilege... or reverse racists.

[DaveJord]

Its all about women reproductive rights, abd woke-dom. The Dems don't talk about a single thing white males get fired up about

Like the Trump taxe bill. That fucked the middle class. If increase minium wage, guess what, it's still minium wage. After inflation you'll be right back were you were. But all you've down is squeezed middle class into paying more taxes, and higher prices everywhere for everything.

They increase minium wage, does that mean all the rest of use get an automatic cost of living adjustment to our pay? No, we won't, do margins between whitenand blue collar jobs narrow... making all of poorer... and taxes are everywhere on everything, and abundant as hide fees on the internet.

[DaveJord]

I pay taxes in California, to rebuild beach front homes in Florida. You know why nobody lived in Florida in the 1940s?

Hurricanes, dumbass!!!

[blueonblack22]

You rarely post about on politics @ManOnFire

Even though I disagree with some of the things you posted above I always will respect your opinion.

My main issue is how many people on the left talk to and label anybody who voted or plans to vote for Trump. Like HRC’s infamous “deplorables” comment or the automatic “Trump Supporter” assumption regardless of the person’s backgrounds and reasons for that decision.

You didn’t see conservatives going around labeling and discriminating anyone who voted for Biden in 2020 a “Biden supporter”.

[Alex-Snow]

You make some excellent points. This will be the first time I am able to vote in an election. I registered as an Independent. While both have their strong and weak points there is no way I can vote for Trump. I think he only cares about himself and not our democracy.

[SixFootSexy]

"I don’t think Kamala will win largely because she is black and female."

This is exactly what democrats think, "Ahh the country is so racist and sexist we can't have nice things."

What if what we want is not another deep state puppet which is what Biden has been and Harris is like... "Oh I wouldn't change anything from Biden's administrative policies."

Gimmie a break, who wants that? Who wants a WWIII? Who wants a total economic meltdown? Who wants more racebaiting and abortion celebrated? Who wants freedom of speech to be criminalized and X shut down?

Not me, I will not be voting for her because I don't want any of those things. The woman is the ultimate empty suit and head.

[sawno]

Does kamala really have supporters though? I haven't seen one. If they exist what about her exactly? Because I see a ton of default democrats, I see never trump. I never see someone have a hardcore pro kamala stance.

[Anonymous]

In 2020 it was hard to truly have a fair election.
Between the covid bullshit that had impacted everyone’s way of thinking and the whole George Floyd think which I still think was a CIA staging designed to make the masses rage-vote left.
Biden got the leg up on Trump


But ultimately proved to be an impotent and incompetent leader


This year the left is going all in on the sympathy vote for the philipino-indian woman with the dark skin who talks as though she’s running for president of her kid’s school board


Either the public has truly evolved into a mindset of inclusivity and progressiveness like the media has been pushing for the last 15 years.
Or once in the voting booth they will vote for the tried and tested white man


I think deep down Americans aren’t ready for someone like Harris to be known as their leader


Those who support her are a loud minority but unfortunately loud doesn’t mean their votes count for double

[DrPepper12]

Trump is NOT going to win. You heard it here folks.

[ManOnFire]

Hopefully not.

[Dongie]

He is winning!!

[saraupstairs]

George Clooney, is that you?

[Dongie]

😅😅😂

[Avicenna]

@saraupstairs: Hamas Pepper knows a lot about stealing elections, so I'd take him seriously...

[saraupstairs]

@Avicenna
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but the CIA made the terrorists listen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4vsh1zDA

[Avicenna]

@saraupstairs: I’d have guessed they‘d use Empire of the Sun too

[saraupstairs]

@Avicenna

I don't know that one.

[bobby_bush_eater]

How bold...

It's almost like it's 50/50

[bobby_bush_eater]

No need to worry, democracy has spoken old friend...

[IHateBeingaMan]

as another user says, i doubt it will go away anytime soon, but me and lots of Americans, believe that the Electoral College should cease to exist, be abolished, many people the US will never be a true democracy until we have elections that the winner is determined by the Popular vote only.

[Dongie]

It takes no genius to compare Trumps 1st term to his second which had her and biden in office. The open border with the rape and murder. Inflation, and the wars going on. I don't have to overlook anything as far as Trump is concerned. Firstly, I don't believe fake news nor have I seen or heard Trump be any of those things you mentioned. Have you or do you go with what others said he's done?

[ManOnFire]

Do you believe so easily that he HASN'T done what others have said he's done?

[saraupstairs]

Dongie,

Joy Reid says that Trump will bring back slavery!


You know it's true, because she's on MSNBC!

[Dongie]

Yes, Man, I don't believe Democrat voters at all.

[Dongie]

I know, Sara, they're amazing over there.

[Dongie]

She doesn't believe that. I'd say she knows quite a bit about reality but leaves her brothers and sisters back in slavery to the DNC.

[captain_voidwalker]

I'm voting for trump because he angers and strikes fear into politicians who have made a literal career out of fucking people like me and you over. Even if trump does nothing just bu upsetting them it makes me smile and that's more than any other president has done for me

[ManOnFire]

Some truth here.