Turks are closer to their West Asian and North African cousins in terms of skin. All these people are between somewhere between Indians and the Europeans:
So why can't they just accept that they are in-between? :P
Turkey is a diverse country, western and northern ones are white meanwhile eastern and southerns are brown, and there are Kurds not to forget. Pale skin is considered a beauty priority in Turkey, as it is in far-east countries. Turks are not complexed about white skin, but they consider very brown people like indiands, Arabs and Kurds ugly. Me and my family are pale skinned with colored eyes, one of my cousin wanted to marry with a Brown Kurdish girl, his family strictly refused this marriage just because the girl was Brown. Insecurity in Turkey is another thing, people in Turkey believe people have wrong ideas about their country just because they are muslim like Turkey is a sharia country, women rights are terrible etc.
By the way, Turkey is a sunny country and you can't expect people to maintain their skin colour during summer.
Personally I agree that white is the more beautiful... but while there are many completely WHITE turks, sometimes even with blond hair and blue eyes... the vast majority of turks (who make up 90% of Turkey's population) are brownish, especially after they tan.
Post ANY picture of a protest in North or West turkey and you'll see the brownish color. I have already posted one below you can see for yourself... Let's not discuss Kurds I'm talking about Turks only.
Turks make %60 of Turkey, I don't know where did you find %90
I agree on brownish comment, but, it's not like Arabs, Kurds or Indians as you comment, but more of olive skinned.
By the way, those pictures are Kurdish "korucu", villagers who are defending their village against PKK, their villages are near Iraq border, and they have been paid by the government.
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It is a widely happening mistake, posting Kurdish pictures to prove Turks are brown.
Here are pics of Turkish nationalists:
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They are definitely the most white out of all the brown people. Also you're right, Turks make up 70-75% of the population today, but they made up 90% in 1965.
They make grey wolf signal, which means they are far right mhp voters. MHP gets its votes from religious south eastern Arabic population mostly. Against Kurdish workers party (PKK) Even though grey wolf is a Turkish national symbol, it lost meaning and MHP has a weird sense of nationalism. Arabs and Kurds live next to each other and Arabs hate Kurds, this is why they vote for a far-right party.
Western Turkey is pure Turkish except Istanbul, meanwhile eastern Turkey is very ethically diverse. So, if you want to have pictures of Turkish people, try to find photographs from western Turkey instead of eastern.
I don't like showing pictures to be honest, but, here is a video of street interview from Istanbul, you can also see the diversity in this video https://youtu.be/uRWAjwbui_s
hmmm... yeah maybe 40-50% of Turkey is white... I know 4 people from turkey and 3 of them are white lol.
But they are not Europeans. Turks DEFINITELY have some Mongoloid admixture just like the Kazakhs, people of Turkmenistan and Russians... who are not considered Europeans as well lol.
Weird, I don't know why you brought this "europeanism" lol. Kazakhs Turkmens and Turkish people don't look like each other. Kazakhs and Turkmens are heavily mongoloid, meanwhile only a few Turks have slightly small eyes which is a mongoloid admixture, and that's it. Additionally, we have a lot of Crimean Tatar, Uzbek, Turkmen, Kazakh and Uyghur in Turkey, they also identify themselves Turkish; however, they are not Anatolian Turkish descent.
Many Greeks and Armenians claim we are whether Kurdish-Arabic, or mongoloid. They post Kurdish or Arabic pictures to prove their claim and post such pictures to prove we are mongoloid:
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I saw someone posting a picture like this to prove Turks are mongoloid (those kids are Kazakh)
As for Turks are in between Europe and Middle east, and have an Asian history, also Turkey is diverse; it's easy to claim Turks are White, Brown or mongoloid.
Agree fully with the last sentence.
I'd say Turks are Mediterranean with olive and white skin, Brown skinned people in Turkey are whether gypsy, Arab or Kurd; however, people from outside are not aware of the ethnic diversity in Turkey, and think all the Brown people they saw are ethnic Turks. This is also why most Turks visiting Europe can't people believe they are Turkish, just because they aren't Brown.
It can also be the reason why Turks are insecure, because of many thing known about Turks. It's just one thing tho, the most important thing is actually people believing that Turkey is a 3rd world country, people speak Arabic, and woman rights here is terrible. I saw many women saying "I want to visit Istanbul, are Muslim Turks violent against white Christians?" Or like "Poor Turkish women should wear hijab, or they will be beheaded."
Some Turks are definitely brownish though... there's no denying that... and some are definitely mongoloid mixtures
Some Turks, yes, because of the assimaliton and mixing with middle easterns. I don't agree on the second, by the way, i think you are a german, right? There was a genetic research of how much turks are genetically related to mongolians. It has been found that the genetic distance between Turks and Mongols is equal to distance between Germans and Mongols.
We have mostly Crimean tatars who are mongoloid, here, a famous Crimean Tatar historian in Turkey. encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images
They are the most mongoloid people you can find in Turkey.
The Turks are complexed about many things. They have a criminal record in their history that includes genocides, raping, killing of innocent people and snatching the children of their own to raise them as Turk fanatics (the completely white ones today, as you notice). Therefore they are insecure as fuck. You see them in this forum posting every day the same questions, asking the embers wether they like them or not. Plus, they are mentally fucked up like all Middle Eastern/Arab people. This is because of decades, even centuries of race mixing and their oppressive religion and way of life.
Okay let's not forget European history of the past 250 years... the unmatched genocide of Mao (China)... the oppression of lower-castes in India... the Rwanda genocide...
Everybody's pretty fucked up in that sense. Europeans are the worst :P
The question is referring to Turkey. Not Europe or China. So we are talking now about Turkey. And Europe in general has a history that cannot be compared to Turkey, wether we are talking about the glorious pages of history or the dark ones. I don't see how Europe is the worst, except that it is today ruled by treacherous fifth column gatekeepers who are destroying it from the inside.
My point that you shouldn't diss turks for committing genocides, when the biggest genocides have been committed by Europeans and other people like Chinese.
West Asia was always richer than Europe except for Italy (which had drained North Africa, parts of West Asia and Europe). Also, the Turks colonized Europeans for hundreds of years not very long ago...
Europeans and Chinese have at least created civilisations among the most glorious in history of mankind. The only thing Turkey has shown since the Medieval times when they showed up is misery, oppression, wars, genocides that stopped in 1974 with their last war against Greece. Since then they have adopted other methods, more quiet and sneaky to contribute to the destruction of their neighbours.
Hogwash.
Absolutely NOTHING compared to European genocides and oppression of other people. Absolutely NOTHING compared to the genocide by Mao.
Like I said, West Asia was mostly superior to Europe. Turks didn't even live in Turkey they lived in Central & other parts of West Asia until recently.
LOL it is historical FACT that West Asia was always wealthier than Europe in terms of per-capita income (except Italy), until America was found... their people exterminated... their riches robbed... and their land taken over & exploited.
It is historical FACT that Europeans have been the most murderous of all and the most oppressive in terms of sheer scale. The Asians have always been superior since time immemorial.
The Persians were ALWAYS superior to the greeks (except in Alexander's time). The Ottomans were superior to most Europeans. The Europeans could never enter Asia beyond parts of Turkey (except in Alexander's time) since they were always defeated. The Abbasid & Ummayid caliphates ruled Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal etc. Spain was conquered by them for hundreds of years. The Huns also raped most of Europe... Then there was Gengis Khan...
LOL.
how can you deny the facts? If you want links to per capita income I can provide them. If you know nothing of empires and the history of territories controlled by them it's not my fault.
European Awakening Network? wtf is that a neo-nazi movement?> I'm german by the way and I don't support Nazism.
You are also MUCH worse than a holocaust denier... don't you have any shame? Are you really proud of oppressing, robbing, killing, maiming people?
I think you should be reported to the police for your outright racism against Turks.
I'm a turkish girl I have really white skin but I have yellow undertone so I dont look as white as scandinavian people. And most of turkish people are yellow undertone tanned skin. İn the east there are kurds and arabs they are more brown
And I want to say turkish people are not all bad. there are bad people like other country have.
Most turks are not even as white as average europeans...
They are on the level of Southern Italians, if not lower. But 50% of Turks are probably white
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Modern day turkey is extremely diverse. There are people descendent from Europe, greece, bulgaria, georgi. There are a lot of kurdish people and Asian originated ones as well.
Most 'brownish' ones tend to be kurds, arabs though. An average turk certainly isn't brown like a kurd or hispanic.
Frankly, I think turks tend to kind of racism due to the extreme ignorence of the people over there, yet I never thought that they get hyped about colour.
Nope. Turkey's population is still 90% Turk and the vast majority are brown (ish)
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Here's a picture of a large number of Turks. They are not white like Europeans, but instead, brown
Not all europeans look like fucking swedes. Brown is the colour of mexicans, indians etc. Turks don't have that dark a tone. And %90 of turkey is definetly not turkish descendant.
Swedes are famous for blue eyes & blond hair.
But yeah, all europeans (except some southern Italians and gypsies) are white and thus lighter than turks... while Turks are brown. Yes they are not DARK brown, but LIGHT brown.
For example, the picture I gave is of Ukrainians, not Swedes :)
And yes, as per official statistics, 90% of Turkey is Turks.
The Turks think they r better than any other race it started with the othman empire when they occupied a lot of countries and they were enormous force it's in the history altho the rulers of the othman empire where good and humble like suliman the justice and bayazid el thany and mohamed el fateh
Of course not all of them are like that
Turks are not a race... they are just Caucasoids with a brown tinge.
But I fully agree with you. They think of themselves as a "race" and are quite unhappy that they are not white like the Europeans!! xD
Well you have the original turks who are descended from Caucasians, then you have the descendants of greeks who settled in turkey over 3000 years ago and then you have all the other peoples arabs, persians, kurds etc who the turks conquered.
Greeks are Caucasoids as well. They are whiter than Turks.
People should accept who they are and throw away this us and them mentality as it hinders a civilisations and people's progress.
I know right? If only Turks would just accept their brownish color and stop pretending to be a white race...
There's nothing to be so butthurt about really.
The original Turks who migrated from East Asia and Mongolia to Anatolia have a completely Mongolian face, broad hairless faces, small almond eyes, dark skin, and some have yellow skin. Of course, in Turkey, there are a number of people with light skin and Indo-European typology, all of whom are descendants of Romans, Greeks, Persians, Armenians, Georgians, and Circassians, and are not considered Turks in principle.
the irony in this is mind blowing
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