Robotic women with synthetic wombs? Do you think this is fair to future children?

[Anonymous]

I have recently heard that MGTOW has suggested making robotic women with synthetic wombs. Do you think this is fair to future children?
What I mean is, there are children who are born into this world, and children that exist now, that do not know or understand the problems brought about by feminism and social justice warriors. Wouldn't it be better to solve these problems, and teach the children to not cause harm like this? Wouldn't it be better to teach them to work out their issues instead of copping out? I understand why some men feel the need to be this way, but I also feel like both sides are wrong. I also believe that people who love each other should probably not get married because it does the most harm to men. Can people even repair this anymore? It just seems like a waste.

[cth96190]

That a significant and increasing number of men are walking away from women is an indication of how toxic and legally dangerous women have become, mainly because of the cultural Marxist hate movement that calls itself Feminism.
While I am not interested in using a robot as a masturbation aid, I can understand why some men would want that.
Display interest in a woman = risk a sexual harassment complaint, with resultant loss of job or expulsion from university.
Ask a woman on a date = risk a sexual harassment complaint, with resultant loss of job or expulsion from university.
Go on a date = risk a false rape allegation, with resultant loss of job or expulsion from university.
Have consensual sex with a woman = risk a false rape allegation, with resultant loss of job or expulsion from university. Also, every time that a man ejaculates inside a woman he is rolling the dice in a gamble that could result in a child-support order turning him into that woman's impoverished slave for the rest of his life.
Marry or cohabit with a woman = risk false allegations of spousal rape, domestic violence and molesting one's own children. Loss of all assets and future earnings, by the decree of a court. When the man cannot pay the extortionate child support, men with guns will be sent to drag him away to the modern version of debtor's prison.
There is currently a 50 per cent divorce rate, so whenever a man forms a relationship with a woman he is taking a 50/50 risk that he will be destroyed in all the ways listed above.
The only surprise is that some women wonder why a significant and increasing number of men are going MGTOW.
It would be like saying to a woman: "Half the men in this room are psychopaths who want to steal everything that you own and have you charged with crimes that you did not commit. Pick one."
Really and truly, the risk exceeds the 'reward' by a huge margin.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Wow, you have NO faith in women

[FallOutBoy2001]

From a woman's perspective:
Have a man display interest in you = risk having said man stalk you if you don't display interest back, and that can turn sour very fast.
Get asked on a date = risk having said man stalk you if you don't agree on a date, and that can turn sour very fast.
Go on a date = risk actually being raped, with the resultant trauma, and a potential pregnancy, which could resultant in loss of job or having to leave university to take care of the child, if they don't abort it, which will cause some people to say they are murders and deserve to die.
Have consensual sex with a man = risk protection failing, a potential pregnancy, which could resultant in loss of job or having to leave university to take care of the child, if they don't abort it, which will cause some people to say they are murders and deserve to die. They could also be pressured into marrying the father.

[cth96190]

@FallOutBoy2001
Experience and that published statistics for divorce, as well as a swathe of false rape allegations, do not lie.
Reality is what it is. I wish that it was not so.
When interacting with women, a man has to assume a defensive position, because 50 per cent of women will destroy us in a divorce court.
I have also been the target of false and vexatious sexual harassment complaints by batshit crazy feminists, possibly because I did NOT have any sexual interest in them. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
I have seen lives destroyed by false allegations of sexual harassment and date rape. I have seen former colleagues commit suicide because the wife left and the child-support order left these men with less to live on than an unemployment welfare payment.
Look up why Robin Williams committed suicide. The real story was that the court-ordered alimony payments to his former wives exceeded his income and net worth. The next step was prison, because he was unable to pay.

[cth96190]

@FallOutBoy2001
Valid points.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Um, no. He commited suicide because he was depressed.

[FallOutBoy2001]

I wish the sexs get along better

[cth96190]

@FallOutBoy2001
Williams was depressed because. . .
See the linked article.
www.nydailynews.com/.../...death-article-1.1906241

[FallOutBoy2001]

Shame he killed himself, he was a great actor. My mom said she never thought he would kill himself, he seemed so happy, to which I quipped "it's always the happy ones who end their own lives"

[cth96190]

@FallOutBoy2001
Williams conformed to the theatrical stereotype of the clown who was dying inside.
That is common among artistic creatives who have an IQ in the genius range.

[FallOutBoy2001]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[Transigence]

@FallOutBoy2001 It's not a matter of faith. It's a matter of growing up watching your male friends and family get destroyed, over and over again.

Faith is what you use when you don't know, and cannot know. We DO know. We have a trail of corpses decades old.

Women have ESTABLISHED THEMSELVES to be unreliable this way.

Besides, why should we need faith? Nothing screams "untrustworthy," like a demand for faith.

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Transigence men also have proven themselves incredibly untrustworthy. I've grown up watching both genders get fucked over.

[Transigence]

@FallOutBoy2001 And to think, a couple of hours prior you were shocked that men had no faith in women.

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Transigence no. I was not shocked they had no faith in women, I was shocked that they really only used the one sided argument that "it's the women who are harming everyone" while really it's both sexes.

[Asker]

Sadly, I do understand what you mean. Is there any way of fixing it? It seems like the government is willing to hype this sh*t up because it makes them a lot of money, among other things.

[Transigence]

Well, what's broken? What needs to be fixed? And who is in the position to fix it?

[FallOutBoy2001]

@Transigence both sexes are broken, and I guess it's up to everyone to fix it

[Transigence]

@FallOutBoy2001 I have to disagree. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with us. It's not the players who are broken, but the game.

As for who can fix it, there are only two groups who can do anything about it. First, men and women together could do something about this. This would have the best outcome. And alternately, women alone could fix this. Men alone can do nothing to fix this because society does not give a shit about problems affecting men.

But men are the ones who are checking out voluntarily in droves. If you want to be a part of the solution, you have to listen to our grievances and take them seriously, not just write us off as manbaby losers and tell us to "man up." That ship has sailed.

[Transigence]

Artificial wombs and sex robots are separate technologies. An artificial womb is probably going to be an entire room.

But you're missing the point -- the sex bots and artificial wombs ARE THE SOLUTION to the problem.

We cannot teach children anything because the feminists and SJWs have completely taken over schools from K-Post-Grad, so that vector will not work (unless there's a boycott of government schools).

Sex bots and artificial wombs aren't copping out, they're just boycotting women anymore. It's us saying, "You have nothing to offer anymore and we don't fucking need you."

It's really simple economics, applied to the sexual market. Sex bots will eliminate demand for women, and artificial wombs will eliminate their necessity. When women are no longer needed, and no longer wanted, they will drop their price and increase the quality of their goods in response to changes in the market. Sex bot and womb sales will diminish but stay extant, and that market will constantly put market pressure on women to keep their value high and their price low.

[Asker]

But what doesn't seem right is that you are saying all women need to be replaced because they are all like crazy feminists. That's like saying that all women say that all men need to be taught not to rape when the majority haven't done anything wrong. It doesn't make sense.

[Transigence]

The problem isn't that women are all feminists. The problem is that we live in feminist jurisprudence and we do so with tacit and implicit support of nearly all women. A woman can still abuse our stilted laws to harm men whether they are feminists or not.

But if you, like I, define feminism as someone who believes and subscribes to feminist myths (particularly that of the patriarchy), you'll find that most women really are feminists, even when they think they're not.

[Rainie_]

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MGTOW are honestly as radical as feminazi. Seriously they need grow up and learn to PROPERLY solve their own issues instead of escaping from the problem all together and make an odd little unrealistic world for themselves where they don't come across the "other" "issues". Goddness. There will always be issues wherever you go, YOU CANNOT ESCAPE IT, lol, you just gotta learn to deal with it, PROPERLY. Welcome to planet earth where we live in a society.

[Cosytoasty]

Hear hear!

(ironically enough, there's an android in your gif xD)

[Transigence]

I don't see how MGTOW isn't a proper solution. If you can eliminate the entire solution in one fell swoop, why not?

Problem: Nearby radioactive waste
Solution: Move it far, far away

Problem: The air stinks 9 months out of the year
Solution: Move somewhere that has clean air

Problem: Engagement with women doesn't pass a risk/reward analysis
Solution: Don't engage with women

[Transigence]

eliminate the entire problem... not solution.

Don't eliminate solutions :)

[Rainie_]

@Transigence LOOL that is some dumb ass short sighted "solutions", it's IS running away, you're not solving anything.

Problem: Nearby radioactive waste
Solution: Research, find a way to dispose radioactive waste properly, and also find a better alternative to nuclear power. (Obviously an authorities matter which needs to be dealt with anyhow)

Problem: The air stinks 9 months out of the year
Solution: Find the root of the problem, if it's a factory, file complaints to authorities for smell pollution (and possible pollution in general) and make sure the smell pollution gets dealt with.

Problem: Engagement with women doesn't pass a risk/reward analysis
Solution: Find a woman that fucking passes your dumb ass risk/reward "analysis".

No actually just avoid women cause we don't want you anyway. 💁🏽 It's all good. There's some billions of people out there.

[Transigence]

I'm sorry, I was a bit vague. MGTOW is a solution for men, not a solution for women or society, or the state. The withdrawal of male support of women and the state would actually be quite problematic. But it is a good workaround for men, for now. Even after the bachelor tax gets imposed, it will probably still be a better deal.

There is no way to "properly dispose of" radioactive waste. The proper way is to bury it in a mountain, far, far away.

Filing complaints does nothing to fix the air problem (it's similar to voting), and I don't personally have the capacity to scrub the air. The only thing I can do to affect MY life is to move away from it.

As for engagement with women not passing risk/reward:
We have no way of knowing which women are the "good ones." All we know is that there are very, very few of them. Women have been known to be "good" for decades then suddenly turn and rend their man. It's not about the players, it's about the game. Don't take it so personally.

[Asker]

@Transigence don't you just take a chance and roll the dice? after all, there's no way of really knowing who's bad or good. it's not fair to blame all women, any more than it is to blame all men.

[Transigence]

I don't really blame women for much, other than succumbing to their emotional desires to the exclusion of men's needs.

My main gripe is with law. It used to be that if you didn't like who you were with, you could get a divorce and that was that. Now society somehow sees fit rob a man of half his shit without regard to whether she had anything to do with earning it. Child support laws are abusive and family court judges are biased against men and corrupted (they get some of that money matched by additional federal funding).

A child born into that marriage, regardless of the father of that child, is considered a product of that marriage and the husband is responsible for it, financially, even after divorce.

It's the institution of marriage that has been deranged that is the real culprit. But of course women know this and do nothing to fix it because it benefits them in the short term. I don't blame women for this. They are just a product of the system.

[Asker]

@Transigence this i completely understand. these laws are unreasonable. the system is such a mess though, that it's hard to know where to start.

[Transigence]

It starts with listening to the angriest men and taking their grievances seriously. Not just persecuting them for being angry, but trying to find out why.

Until you understand and give a shit, nothing will change. Nothing will change for men -- society only changes for women.

[Asker]

@Transigence that makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Maybe you all need few lessons of basic biology to realize that all that is total nonsense, scientists can not create synthetic organs to save a life (therefore the need for organ donations) and you think that is possible at any time in near future to create synthetic wombs that will carry children? Jesus wept lol, this is not a Hollywood movie. As for groups of people that have their own opinions and beliefs well live and let live

[Transigence]

Actually, we can create organs conceivably, it's just unethical to pursue the research, because it requires stem cells.

However, somehow it's not unethical to use stem cells from mutilated boys to create cosmetic products for women to make them appear younger and healthier.

[Opinion Owner]

@Transigence just because IN THEORY you can create organs using stem cells doesn't mean that we can do it. Even if we assume that we can create an artificial womb , how exactly will you use it on an artificial woman to grow real babies? A foetus is not a hens egg to keep it warm and get a baby, its development is depended from the whole of the womans body and not just a womb. The ignorance in many of the comments is breathtaking

[Transigence]

The author of this question got it fucked up. Artificial wombs and robotic women are separate technologies. An artificial womb is most likely going to be an entire room, and there will be a lot of equipment to do the things a mother's body usually does. But it's a real technology being worked on, and you have some good questions, so if you're curious I suggest you look into it.

And I've heard, though I don't know if there's any truth to it, that we're already able to regrow our natural adult teeth using stem cells.

[somebodysaycheese]

With synthetic wombs and wear is it they will get the eggs and children actually need the bacteria from the birth canal once they are born. And a fake womb... in what world can that work? It's too unnatural god, nature whatever you believe in will not allow that... Fucking crazies.

[Transigence]

All of that stuff can be gotten on the free market.

[somebodysaycheese]

@Transigence lol... ok

[worldscolide]

i think both sides have it wrong.. I think MGTOW are loony and Feminists are just as bad if not worse...

the artificial womb thing will never happen, but the sex bot thing likely will. and i cite the following when it comes to my issues with feminists

https://witchwind.wordpress.com/

[cth96190]

MGTOW are loony in your opinion, because we do not believe that interaction and involvement with women survives a cost/risk/benefit analysis.
Interesting.
In what universe is it a rational act to take a 50 per cent risk (the current divorce rate) of being stripped of everything by a court, of your future earnings being confiscated by the court and of being turned into the woman's impoverished slave for life via a child-support order?

[worldscolide]

@cth96190 sorry i kind of Generalized.. You probably aren't loony... but there are those that are in the extreme.. those are the ones i dont like..

[Josht11]

Synthetic wombs? this shit is never gonna happen I'm all for robosex but your a retard to think that children don't do better with both parents.

[Intraluminal]

Men want to have a relationship with a woman, not a tinkertoy. Itll never happen. There may be few losers who'll try it, but That's it.

[Distant]

I don't think you know men very well, lol. Combine the movie "Her" with "Ex Machina" and you would 10000000% have men lining up to buy them in the millions.

[BertMacklinFBI]

what was the issue exactly that caused the robotic womb to happen?

and also, i think the boys would be stoked to have a robomom lol.

[BertMacklinFBI]

im probably way off here :P

[Asker]

i saw a video about it by a creator on youtube called sandman. i thought i was going to throw up.

[Intraluminal]

Only to most impossible losers would want it anyway.

[Asker]

@Intraluminal 😊

[Transigence]

@Intraluminal Nobody really wants it that way. It's called "settling."

[Intraluminal]

@Transigence
It's called beating off with a really expensive sex toy.

[aliceinwonderland69]

Even if they could come up with the science it will never be legal. It's also unnecessary as they could adopt or use a surrogate. The real problem would be being brought up be a psycho single Father. They are nuts.

[Scrambledagain]

Just to clarify here, does this question refer to the robot with the synthetic womb children (I. e children of robots) or to men that are so fucked that they have to think of shit like robot women?

[Asker]

It sounded like he was saying they should grow real children out of synthetic women.

[Scrambledagain]

Ok, well that's creepy. That will cause mental shit for a child (no biological mom). These men are so stupid that even the robot would reject them. So I wouldn't worry about it.

[LaVilaine]

I'm guessing they would only select XY pairings, as they really only value men.

[Josht11]

I don't get why they'd even have children I thought the movement was just about being your own person no commitment.

[LaVilaine]

@Josht11 they can't make up their damn minds. And they think women are the problem. Ha.

[Josht11]

they have definitely jumped the shark on rationality, first they just just want casual sex no commitment then no women then robots.

[LaVilaine]

@Josht11 I think we should just gather them all up and send them to a remote island somewhere. They can go their own way very very easily.

[VicarioVivere]

Let's round up the radical feminists, too, and let them have a death match with the MGTOWs.

[LaVilaine]

@VicarioVivere Yeah, I wouldn't be opposed. That way we could have real conversations.

[Transigence]

Actually implementing that in a nation that allows people to possess firearms might get a bit technical. Sounds like a recipe for brewing domestic terrorists.

[LaVilaine]

@Transigence desert island. Problem solved.

[Transigence]

It's not about the destination, it's about the actual act of rounding us up and forcing us to move.

[LaVilaine]

@Transigence I would think y'all would like to be somewhere away from us evil witches.

[Transigence]

We're fine where we are. I'd rather stay near the porn and X-Boxes if it's all the same to you.

[LaVilaine]

@Transigence what do you need porn for? You don't want women in your lives. Unless it's gay porn.

[Bandit74]

We are far off from that being available for the general public.

The worst MGTOW can currenlty do is avoid marriage which might make it so women find it harder to settle down.

[Transigence]

What makes it hard for women to settle down is that they are 30-40 and have a bunch of children.

Women who aren't 30 and don't have children don't want to settle down.

[Transigence]

What if MGTOW really catches on in a big way? Suppose 3/4 of all men swear off marriage (there's been an informal marriage strike before MGTOW ever found its way onto the internet). What are the potential society-wide consequences of this?

[Bandit74]

@Transigence
Even if it was 1/4 th that would still be pretty big. For every one guy that swears off women there is one woman who has no one to date. This would also allow the guys who are still on the market to be even picker when it comes to settling down.

[Anonymous]

Feminists and Social Justice Warriors are running our universities and schools, so those kids won't even have a chance of not being indoctrinated.

I don't really see a fix unless society collapses completely.

[Transigence]

There's one way out -- take education back from the government. Create large home-schooling groups.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but this is something I think needs to happen anyway. The federal government controls state school with money and threat of withdrawal of money.

[Distant]

It's the other way around. Universities and schools are turning kids into feminists and social justice warriors. I've personally seen dozens of normal girls go into gender studies courses and then come out swinging "patriarchy" and "1/4 women are r@ped!". Students are somehow entering universities, paying thousands of dollars and coming at more stupid than when they entered.

[Distant]

out* not "at".

[Opinion Owner]

@Distant that's actually what I was saying. :)

[Asker]

@Transigence you have a point. The government has gotten way out of control.

[Asker]

@Distant have you heard of sargon of akkad? He has a petition on YouTube to ban gender studies in university. I've already signed.

[Distant]

@Opinion Owner, my bad. I must have misinterpreted what you were saying.

@Asker, I have not but I'm about to check it out now.

[Asker]

@Distant he's amazing.

[anonman32]

yes, feminists are trying to make sperm from their own DNA pursuing the same goals would be only normal.

[Asker]

are you kidding? that's sick!!! stupid feminists!

[anonman32]

yep, radicals are radical.

[Asker]

man f*ck them... i'm so sick and tired of them.

[anonman32]

me too, but this MGTOW is no better in my opinion.

[Asker]

i love you for that. if you weren't 21 i would be your right now. ;-)

[Asker]

yours...

[anonman32]

i guess you don't like younger guys?

[Asker]

well, it's not that i don't like younger guys, but i don't want to be a pedophile either... perhaps 11 years is crossing a line? but i still think you're awesome...

[anonman32]

im 21 not 12. I've always wondered what it would be like to have sex with an older more experienced woman.

[Asker]

oh. well then that's different then. Unfortunately, I live in Florida... which is much further away then Belgium.

[anonman32]

well i never implied that i would to have sex with you :)

[Asker]

i know that. ;-)

[anonman32]

but thanks for thinking im awesome :)

[Asker]

sure :)

[somebodysaycheese]

Lol, I'm pretty sure it's the lgbt. same sex couples are trying to do that male and female.

[Waffles731]

MGTOW is a freaking waste

[Transigence]

Yeah. Too bad they're perfectly rational.

[SarahsSummer]

What on earth are you talking about?

[bcromartie]

Where did you "hear" this?

[Anonymous]

Let the MGTOWs buy fleshlights

[Opinion Owner]

They're pathetic.

[ConsultantIsBack]

Lol @mgtow
Just lol