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I voted C only because their was no option to choose neither. Women make perfect sense IF you understand how they operate. Basically men don't understand women and women don't understand men. The difference is women to be perfectly blunt lie and men tend to be straight forward. See women have evolved to be indirect as that meant they where less likely to be injured and harmed since reproduction has a heavy toll on the body of a woman and so avoiding injury increased odds of successfull reproduction and child rearing. For men reproduction doesn't take a toll at all but because of this they have to earn value while a woman doesn't meaning they are far more likely to go out of their way to prove their worth while women will go out of their way to avoid conflict (that would potentially harm them (hence them talking about each other behind their back, it takes the other person down a social peg while not directly harming the woman and her chances of reproducing). For men since they are are replacable they have to prove themselves more and in turn are conditioned to be much more direct. So understanding men and women in the context of reproduction it actually makes sense. Women like drama because it shows that the man is invested in her, if she creates drama and he doesn't react then he must not be all that invested and reproduction is going to result in her being abandoned which of course would have been a death sentence for her. Meanwhile for the man he must prove his worth to her so he will go out of his way to prove that with buying her things and protecting her since the goal is to reproduce and if she is pregnant or nursing or raising a child that is his even though he may die it ensures the survival of her and by extention potential offspring making him more dedicated to her. Each has the same objective but different methodology to get that end. So the complications arise because women have an opposite method of men and vice versa so the issue is comparing one to the other then no matter who you are the other will look complicated in comparison simply because you have your strategy of survival and understand it and they have a different one that is contradictory to your own. So its only complicated if you don't understand the basics.
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@sugarchateau everything?
Yea you cover the entire topic behind why the genders are complex. Whereas everyone else has said one or the other gender is just drama
@sugarchateau Okay, thats what I thought you said just wanted to make sure. Thank you I try to be thorough.
Okay I need you to re iterate that paragraph, but WITHOUT the reproduction shenanigans.
@lacorine197 Why? That is the most basic purpose of life and quite literally dictates everything we do, all things stem from that point, the need to reproduce. Because men and women reproduce differently they both function differently in order to ensure they pass on their genes.
Excluding reproduction tell me why women operate differently
@lacorine197 Excluding aero/fluid dynamics explain to me how a plane is different then a car? See the problem? Your asking me to explain why they are different but not allowing me to explain how they are different. Reproduction is the primary function of all life so excluding that is like excluding biology when trying to explain how a persons body works. You can't divest the two. Women are built differently, they have different biochemistry different genetic makeup (the genetic difference between a man and a woman is the difference between a human and a chimpanzee) different neurological structure (more white matter while men have more grey matter, develop speech sooner then men while men develop fine motor control skills before women (generally speaking)) all of which is due to reproduction and how their roles in it function. Its the reason we even have gender roles and why women are biologically the way they are (neotenous biological traits instill a protective instincts).
@lacorine197 while also causing the male response to them. A woman who was protected was more likely to survive and reproduce since the child would be far more reliant on her do to nine months of pregnancy and then the years of child nursing. For the man being bigger and stronger meant greater resources to feed her and himself and him being willing to fight on her behalf ensured her survival and thus the survival of his offspring. This instinct is due to neotenous traits (child like characteristics). Its all due to reproduction.
Complicated is in the eye of the beholder, lol. If you look at all the posts on here from both men and women you will see that we can be equally confusing. Men probably think men are simpler, women probably think the same. I find a lot of male behaviour easier to analyse, but then I'm male.
There are no rules that apply to all cases, some people are more complex than others regardless of gender and often because their psychology is more complex.
ah the women on here might as well bow down on their knees and suck some d***- bunch of sell outs. the irony is that out of all the women who have responded to this, i see questions based on a guys behavior on their profile pages. how the fuck are men just not as complicated as women if there's questions asked about their behavior? the mental gymnastics are just glorious.
i get confused when men complain about a womens high standards when they don't fit them. however, as soon as we lower our standards, then we get pregnant, then we have to raise the baby on our own cause we "lowered our standards"; guess who gets blamed? you ! the one who felt guilty to the low and high standards shaming. tell me men, doesn't that sound confusing or maybe you all just need to shut the f*** up?
"Well, let's see. To keep your man happy as a woman, pretty much stay thin, suck his dick, and be pleasant." - quoted by notorisch_arschloch
but... weren't you just complaining about women not being more efficient? lol i see how men are being cucked by the system, all we need to do as women is be your parrot (like most women down in the bottom) and tell you what you want to here, make you feel as though you're in the right, be thin, and presentable, and know how to suck dick, and we'll be good!
5 years later...
women make me sick!! bunch of gold digging women. all they want is a bank, then they charge you the unbearable for child support, i can't see my kids!! mra all the way!!
lmfao- you all seemed so much smarter when you were being macho and silent, lookin all mysterious and shit.
There is so much false information and stupidity in your comment that i dont even know to begin with, but you're completely wrong regardless. To begin with, a man leaving you after he is pregnant is not correlated with your standards or not, you can never be sure if a man is going to leave or not regardless of how much you test him or how high your standards are, in fact the paradox here is that the thing women use to rate men in (money, status, height etc) that men often complain about, is that the more a man has of these criteria, the more likely he is to cheat or leave, because such men have so many options and less reason to stay committed to one woman, so in fact if women had different standards to what they do now, (not lower, just different) then they might have more luck finding the right man (unfortunately most women including you are to stupid to realize this)
@Djaaaaay (don't comment on anyones comment until you actually have something to say) @alphadoggystyle (you should leave me alone, i've read your mentally challenged thinking before... must i say its sickening )
@cchris987 (why are you responding to my comment with some mumble jumbo bullshit? whats you argument? whats your statement? what are you bitching about? i'm confused)
Nothing sickening or mentally challenging about what i have been saying, I've been speaking facts. If you cannot understand them then you are probably the one who is mentally challenged.
@alphadoggystyle nah, no, usually a mentally ill person always thinks others are not understanding. anyway, truth is, i think what you're spewing is bullshit. you sound like a freudian. every since that bitch entwined sexism with medicine and psychology, we've faced alpha bias (to exaggerating differences between women and men). we are not different due to biology but by culture and society. men are told to toughen up, in spite, they do, they don't show their emotions but they get off wrong when they blame women for the reasons why they don't call out their rapist etc, when in all reality they didn't want to seem less macho. women are told by society and many confirmation bias studies that they their weak, and will always be under a man for support and financial needs. until we bleed this bias dry, we'll never get over this lump. people and the women at the bottom disgust me, because their hypocrites. one minute you don't want to be put in a box yet you box people up.
Opinion owner. Alright , look... I know you're young and see things in a manner everyone's saying. I get it. You're views are not that far off when you're talking about boys /men who are immature or have an ill agenda towards women in general. Although they are a small minority of guys who insist on being jerks. And there are just as many girls/women who act the same way too. To literally put things in perspective , honestly there are a lot of genuine women/men out there who don't act out like this at all. You're right about the standard bs. Men/women need to be for real and stop all this bs. People in general who have great expectations of the other thier with aren't good relationship material. The emasculate guys out there will never be quite right in anyone's eyes , never , not even in GODS eyes. Men really are not that complicated once you learn about us , believe me. Mysterious to some maybe , complicated no.
@cchris987 lol, oh the angry "calm down women" trick. no ones angry, if i was angry, i'd make sure to block your ass. as a matter of fact, if i was so angry, then why in hell are you confronting me, don't you know that talking to people while their angry is causing danger to yourself? i think if you don't have anything of value to say - leave, the door is going back to live feed.
@Djaaaaay
"Although they are a small minority of guys who insist on being jerks."
thats a very broad statement to make, how do you or anyone else really know how many jackasses their is in this world? until you do a study, then your statement isn't factual, its an estimated non-educated guess.
"To literally put things in perspective , honestly there are a lot of genuine women/men out there who don't act out like this at all. You're right about the standard bs. Men/women need to be for real and stop all this bs. "
i agree, i just think its ridiculous that people really thought that we're all that different. the women on here and the men on here are sad cases. i'm pretty sure non of them wouldn't like being put in boxes just because of their gender. we all want individuality yet - ugh!
"The emasculate guys out there will never be quite right in anyone's eyes , never , not even in GODS eyes". that sounds like you're shaming them, and i can't speak for god.
@Djaaaaay
"Men really are not that complicated once you learn about us , believe me. Mysterious to some maybe , complicated no."
sweet heart, no one is immune from being complicated.
if they were so damn perfect, this wouldn't be so damn true. :
If you're independent then it's like 'you don't like me'.
If you're dependent you're clingy.
If you ask him directly then you're aggressive.
If you don't ask him directly then it's 'speak your mind woman!'
If you give them your phone number then you're 'too upfront'.
If you wait for them to ask for your phone number then they're scared of rejection.
If you don't want to have sex with him you're cold bitch.
If you want to have sex with him you're a slut.
If you dress nicely then it's 'all women think about is clothes and jewels'.
If you don't dress nicely then you're a tomboyish lesbian.
If you have a successful job then you're too independent.
If you don't have a job you're a gold digger.
If you eat then 'you're going to be fat'.
@Djaaaaay
"Alright , look... I know you're young and see things in a manner everyone's saying. I get it. You're views are not that far off when you're talking about boys /men who are immature or have an ill agenda towards women in general. "
don't try to give me a back handed compliment, or you will be disrespected.
Opinion owner. I was ( agreeing ) primarily with you except , one thing and you happen to be wrong on. I'm not a little boy and I've been further around this world than you'll ever comprehend. I've never since 18 had any female problems and I still don't. I'm only trying to help alittle for others who find life alittle stresssfull. I've also been high status since I was 18 . I can tell you all about women and thier strange ways for years on end , believe me , story after story. And basically I have a very positive out look about women in ggenral , so I'm not talking bad about women at all. I dont oppress them and they don't oppress me either. Now about (complications ) doesn't have anything to do with being or acting perfect. All I was emphasizing is the high standards you said you were confused with , and feeling inefficient about it from guys. In other words ; if guys try and make you believe your inefficient or your standards are off... then you just got lied to !!
@Djaaaaay
" In other words ; if guys try and make you believe your inefficient or your standards are off... then you just got lied to !!"
i know and its sickening. it's just, i keep seeing these guys talk about "high standard" and they don't even reach the median standard. then when we fall from trying to give guys a chance, we're told we have bad taste, or we need to change, its always "our fault", when we were trying to appease people. sometimes i think we try to please society too much. i'm sick of hearing it. on gag, men just let women have it, all of it, show us no mercy, but the girls and women on here, (the majority) are so soft, and just give in, and be fair, when they aren't being fair to us. do you know whats it like when guys make articles telling us, women, how we're not "worth it anymore", plus a bunch of political movements, that they blame their lack of relationships on. then they also drag biology into the factors for their ways, they dont see how that could harm them
Opinion owner. Ok... I do understand this and it sickens me as well. This stuff they're always saying is a reaction to all of feminism. And quite frankly I only believe in the Bible and what GOD says to men and women alike. Of his commands we are to obey. That being said , ultimately its (mans ) fault for letting women feel or act this way in the beginning. When someone wants to complicate things ; they're representing the devil. I know beyond any bullshit out there that there are a lot of great women who just want to feel and be treated for thier own worth. For example ;( the only expectation I have of my girl is that she just be herself and of course don't lie or cheat) . The same goes for me also. nothing complicated about that. One thing I've learned about your s/o when I was quite young is , to always state clearly (all) your intentions and let them know up front your plans and compromise with thier intentions and plans as well. This always works great for both !!
@Djaaaaay no, i can't even drag feminism into this, guys have always thought this, every since i could remember. even in 50's tv shows there was this kinda thinking going around. it just seems like its feminism because of social media, i bet 9 times out of 10 people especially men, barely even encounter feminist. there's always a guy on here who blames their relationship shortcomings on a political movement lol, thats' how ridiculous this is. i don't blame mras for my father being a low down seed spreading irresponsible person. i believe guys blame stuff on other aspects because they go against what they like, so they play the blame game, just like the low and high standards issue. its an issue because they realizes no one is putting their opinion on a pedestal and breaking their necks trying to fit their standards.
you're factually wrong, men and women are biologically different, its very easy to prove and has been proven already in many ways. Men are superior and will always be. Sorry but if you ever want to be happy the best thing you can do is accept this fact, as a woman you will still enjoy several types of privileges that men dont have in spite of being inferior to us men.
@cchris987 wow shaming me about deciding whether i wanna block him or not. well, man, chris the manly man, if you had a troll on your comment trolling you, you'd block them, right? or is it different because i'm a girl, it automatically means i want him to agree with me if i wanna block him- get the fuck off my comment and go have a fake ass protest elsewhere! this is the shit i'm talking about, why are you dragging my gender into something you disagree with. you, the sexist freak, could've at least said that but left out my gender (cause it isn't really important). and no, thats not how the holocaust happened, holocaust happened when a power hungry hateful male wanted to control people, and he dislike them, so he harmed them-thats how the holocaust happened. no one is superior above someone due to who you were born as. dumb prick
@alphadoggystyle those same privileges are the same ones that got us (women) in this mess anyway; we fall for your man made "traditional roles then next thing you know you're blaming us, calling us bitches, baby makers and saying we're gold diggers. so which one do you all want? this is why people should keep quiet. one minute you don't want a traditional weak female, next minute you do (that sounds complicated and it seems like you don't know what you or any other guy want). sorry, but if you ever want to be happy the best thing you can do is accept this fact, as a male you will still enjoy several types of privileges that women don't have. i may have a vagina and yes, you may have a penis. i may have boobs, and you have nipples that don't consist in as much fat as mine does but i will never bow down to you crazy, sexist, freudians, confirmation biased ass bastards.
@cchris987 and i'd like you to kiss my ass nicely. :) he also didn't list privileges women had either. why don't you ask him to do so as well. oh, and you're hypocritical, controlling, and ill minded. i noticed you didn't harass the other women and their opinion because you must've liked how they said women and not men. but i'm the one who has an issue with people disagreeing with me? lol bullshit. why don't you go down in the female response of this question and find a women to dictate over, i'm pretty sure a lot of 102% won't mind. they will love having your kids, cooking and cleaning around the house and sucking whatever it is you like. sorry, dude, but i'm not breaking. you and your social media bullying can exit off this page.
1. i use an iPhone to assess this app, so it doesn't allow me to view the question only the comments that was made
2. I rarely comment on what guys say cause I'm not gay and I don't care what they say
3. You making wild assumption only makes you look crazy. So chill and stop taking everything so seriously.
@cchris987
1. i use an iPhone to assess this app, so it doesn't allow me to view the question only the comments that was made
so out of all the female users with different opinions as mine, you just happen to not harass. mhmm and pigs fly and sit on toilets to shit.
2. I rarely comment on what guys say cause I'm not gay and I don't care what they say
that doesn't make you gay if you comment on a guys opinion... study logic.
3. You making wild assumption only makes you look crazy. So chill and stop taking everything so seriously.
you don't tell anyone to do shit. i can calm down if i want (if i was actually angry). and i'm making wild assumptions?
"Why are you so angry its not that serious." -assumption u made
"Lol it's funny that girls on this site block people that disagree with them, being surrounded by people that agree with you is how the holocost happened." - assumption you made
If you're independent then it's like 'you don't like me'.
If you're dependent you're clingy.
If you ask him directly then you're aggressive.
If you don't ask him directly then it's 'speak your mind woman!'
If you give them your phone number then you're 'too upfront'.
If you wait for them to ask for your phone number then they're scared of rejection.
If you don't want to have sex with him you're cold bitch.
If you want to have sex with him you're a slut.
If you dress nicely then it's 'all women think about is clothes and jewels'.
If you don't dress nicely then you're a tomboyish lesbian.
If you have a successful job then you're too independent.
If you don't have a job you're a gold digger.
If you eat then 'you're going to be fat'.
If you don't it then 'are you trying to be anorexic or what?'
And then we're the more complicated gender, right.
That's it?
@Djaaaaay who mentioned the Bible? Besides, it was my answer to the question, I don't say I live in the middle, I do what I want, I don't do what someone expects. By the way I based my answer on so many questions I see around here. Either it's "She had sex with 2 guys is she a slut?" or "Does she like me if she does that and that". My point is that people differ. Not all men are the same, not all the women are same. People in general are complicated and fucked up. That's why this site exists anyway, so we can understand better each others' differences
@cross98 Not lopsiding anything. And I said It was a lie. Look it's like this , your an independent person from what I gather. Sooooo being that said , I know it doesn't matter what I or anyone else says. My only mention about your opinion was that of the question at hand. As many blocks I've been around in my years up to today , I can certainly understand why Women think men are more complicated and why they think thier not. I mentioned the Bible because men and women alike are commanded to do what GOD said , not mans way.
@Djaaaaay i wasn't referring to you when i stated lopsidedness, but towards the comments and the question alone. there are people who don't believe in the "bible" basically what was man made as well, since there's million other gods duplicated with the same power and sexism in other cultures as well. and as for how many women think men are complicated, for each of us, there's ten of them (guys) who think the same about us. my statement wasn't that men are more complicated than women and that wasn't anons opinion either (may i speak on her behalf), but trying to put a whole group in one box, is continuing a harmful paradox.
I think men believe their less complicated, but I believe their more complicated because woman are generally more open with their thoughts and feelings... You have to read A guy a lot of the time because they don't share and most times it can be difficult trying to figure out what their thinking, or what's going on with them...
Sorry, that's not really going to help you open up... I think a lot of people today don't want to invest the time into a true relationship or getting to know another person... Which I guess makes both men and woman hard to understand... When you meet the right person they will care what you have to say and want to know also...
@Serenity65 That's what I'm hoping for. But for now, it's pretty hard. Not to mention it's just extremely hard to meet new people nowadays.
I love how women are either like upfront and are like "it's us" or just like "I won't admit to anything, so BOTH!"
I voted women xD I know I'm complicated as hell. I've had guy friends attempt to argue with me, but they use logic and so usually lose or just give up
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Who is more complicated for men to deal with, or who is more complicated for women to deal with?
women do have a far more complex brain.
1. The horminal system is more complex in women (testosterone, Oxytoxin, estrogen)
2. Woman have more a complex organ system as well (reproduction)
3. Neuro-pathways of a womans brain is more complex at well
4. As far as the psychological brain goes, women think far more complex than men.
5. There are far more phenomenons related to how complex a woman is than men. For example: Kangaroo care.
Kangaroo care
THAT BEING SAID... complex does not mean more advanced. There are disadvantages to "straight forward and A wack load of stuff happening for the same result"
Complex makes complications and much more vulnerablity to error.
-There are about 15% more diseases for women than men
-Mental disorders are far more difficult to control and it is more common
-Even minor things such as Vitamin B12 does not work as well in woman than man. Vit B12 makes DNA in your body (in case you care)
-There is less common sense with using emotion for decisions therefore more mistakes can be made in life... and women are less likely to learn from them.
I guess it depends how much you understand the other gender. The thing is men or women will talk to each other and ultimately you will naturally understand your own gender better. I think men are harder to read when it comes to their intentions but I could pinpoint it a lot easier than any women could. Women are hard to get and you need to push a million buttons and levers for her to even give you a chance because of the fear of not knowing what the man's intentions are. So, the man that is serious has a harder time understanding women. It depends it depends it depends in a dating aspect. BUT, generally men are simpler creatures that necessitate very minimum things to be happy. Women have the emotional and hormonal factors that kick in once in a while that throws men on a fucking rollercoaster ride.
Both genders can be complicated but I voted women because were generalizing and for me it's clear. Bring beer, show up naked, i'm happy.
You'll never have a definite answer there are reasons you can say that each gender is complicated.. Neither really fully understands each others.. Many of us would like to say women for good reasons.. But guys can be just as complicated in certain circumstances.. Individuals are the most complicated.. Complexity is what life is about without it there's nothing to achieve ;we won't learn how to grow. We are all unique individuals with unique experiences. We are complicated in our own ways.. For the most past.. Lol..
Well, let's see. To keep your man happy as a woman, pretty much stay thin, suck his dick, and be pleasant.
Of course, to keep a woman happy as a man, well, you can earn 7 figures, take her on 8 vacations a year, and be built like the Rock and still wind up in the doghouse, but when you ask what's wrong get told, "If you don't know, then there's a bigger problem."
If it floats, flies or fucks, stick to rentals. Anything else is just a headache.
women tell you what they want or show you all the time... you just don't listen so by the time you ask "what do you want?" we are so frustrated we don'y give a shit and it's easier to say "I don't know" then try to tell you or show you again.
Luckily, not all guys are bad listeners
In my experience, both.
Even I don't understand some women sometimes so I can see how men would have trouble.
But, they too are complicated. I do not understand their reasoning a lot of times. They would rather hurt their girlfriends' feelings then to appear less manly in front of their friends. This I will never understand.
"Women are complicated" Of course we are! You make us!!! We have to constantly guess what's the meaning of all your actions. "Does he love me, does he not." "Does he like me, does he not" "Does he cheat on me, does he not" what more did you expect? Your riddles complicate us, the riddles we constantly have to solve.
thank you @TheSheWolf6 i almost popped a blood vessel reading the other girls comments. next thing you know, their complaining about a guys behavior... the irony.
I think more women then men. Women are biologically more emotional and think differently then men. Most men are simple in their thinking and women tend to have a more complex way of thinking. So I think that makes us more complicated.
Woman! Hands down. Men are simple and they say what they mean. Girls or women like to fucking play games like stupid little immature children.
Couldn't have said it any better myself
@msg812 no. I haven't played games since I was 16. I'm good.
Women are, and it has hormonal causes I think. More emotions mean less control of what you desire and what is a good choice. I noticed how much simpler I felt after my puberty settled and I become testosterone-driven. Emotions play a far far lesser role in my decisions.
I'm in no way saying women are bad decision makers, but in their personal relationships they might be. Emotionally they are so so complex.
Women are more complicated for sure. But that's part of the reason why we love them βΊοΈ
Even physically and the way our bodies work, women are more complicated. I mean not only that, but women's minds are like spaghetti and guy's minds (or at least in their teenage years) are low key just blank lmao.
Being "complicated" has more to do with personal experiences during lifetime that with genitalia. So I voted C), but in reality I just disagree with the concept of this question.
Exactly.
Women. Hands down.
While men can also be complicated - men are way more often straight forward and say what they want instead of expecting others to be mindreaders.
Women are far more complicated.
Men are simple. Keep our stomachs full and our balls empty and we will be happy.
Women though I will not deny that there are complicated men as well.
But in the grand scheme of things men are very singular and straight forward women are not.
It really really depends on the person
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Women, because I have had it explained to me like this: men's minds are organized in such a way that everything fits into a categorized box and they can focus on one thing at a time. Women's minds are organized in such a way that it's like a big ball of mixed-up strings and everything needs to get done at the same time.
women are because they have no idea what they want, you can never satisfy someone who has no idea what he seeks, men despite being simpler and more to the point are great liars, i admit, women are not easy to understand but men are can't be believed.
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