The number of good women (as in marriage material) is extremely low.
Our generation is losing a cultural-fight, that started before we were born and the generation before us did not good.
Women returned to more natural behaviour, which stand in opposite to
civilisation and its achievements.
promiscuity <-> monogamy
single mothers/childless women <-> family
In my experience women in their early 20s do not want kids.
Women in their mid 20s begin to rethink, but, if they want kids, they want them later.
And later, meaning early 30s or even later than that, they suddenly come up with "where have all the good men gone, who want to marry and start a family".
This is something that women get taught from a young age.
Marriage is bad, men want to enslave you.
Children destroy your life.
Focus on a carrer and show the men that you can everything as good as they can.
This is everywhere in media and academia. Not many can resist constant brain washing.
Yes the decline of women has caused a decline of men in return.
Why would you work hard to be able to have a family, if there are almost no women, who want a family or meet the requirements necessary? Sex is easy to access, you do not have to prove your worth as a man anymore.51 Reply- +1 y
(lol lost half of what i wrote)
promiscuity<->monogamy
single mothers/childless women<-> family
Women get taught that
marriage is a prison, children ruin their lifes, it is better to focus on a carrier to show men that women can do that as well as them.
In my experience women in their early 20s don't want kids.
In their mid 20s they start to rethink, but if they want kids they want them later.
well later, meaning 30+, they wonder: "where have all the good men gone, who want to marry and have kids?"
Yes, the decline of women cause a decline of men in return.
There is no reason for men to work and better themself.
Women don't want families and sex is easy to access.
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Yes there are especially here in the American South and abroad. It is definitely a lot harder to find in 2017 because of toxic liberal ideology. This generation of women were raised to believe that reducing oneself to a sex object and having meaningless sex with strangers is "liberating" because men did it in the past and they weren't shunned so its only fair. They think two wrongs can make a right instead of maybe challenging some of the morally questionable social norms society has expected from men. I think a lot of women falsey believe that feminist values are completely mainstream. These values may be perpetuated by the media but they are far from being universally accepted (although this is rapidly changing ) That is why marraige rates have taken a huge nose dive. All this being said there definitely are some good women left who were raised by a strong father figure who instilled morality and a sense of personal responsibilty. They just aren't very common nowadays. However... to be fair.. some of our men are lacking too... There are plenty of men in 2017 with no sense of honor and drive to succeed or provide or be faithful our generation seems to ansolutely glorify the thug persona. So it goes both ways.
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Blake that was beautiful LMAO. Perfect answer
+1 yI feel like there are less now than, say, 50 years ago--as least, in terms of promiscuity and family-raising goals. Western society's definition of success is somewhat shifting away from that familial American dream ideal (i. e., the white picket fence house filled with soccer-playing children and a golden retriever) to a more individualistic image where success is more about PERSONAL financial independence. Women are becoming less family, more career-oriented. People won't frown upon a woman for not having kids if she's pursuing a formal education--which can be up to a decade in the making. As a result, it's socially acceptable for women to have kids well past their peak fertility. This means that casual sex is more acceptable too--if "the dream" no longer revolves around getting married and establishing a family, then being ideal marriage material is no longer... well, ideal. And this mentality is not exclusive to the ambitious, career-forward woman, but extends to every woman. I'm not going to tackle morality, because that's always been an issue for the human race, and I could argue that, in the past, non-promiscuity wasn't a product of morals, but simply because it coincided with the idea of success and the values required to realize that idea.
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I agree, mainly because I don't feel like debating you LMAO
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Then you lose by default. xP
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When have you won even once. :O
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I have a vague past memory of winning. I could be wrong though. If you say I haven't won, then, I haven't.
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Perhaps you dreamt it. Our score is 4 - 0. I keep track. 📝
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Yes, master Quintessence
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yyes, they do exist. They are hard to find because most of them are taken. I've only been with one man my entire life and live for my family. I value my innocence at my age. I have morals, values and take pride in being a woman with substance. It's unfortunate because most men I meet think it's an act. It's not , the women they meet & know nowadays have changed their whole outlook on whether or not good women exist. I have nothing to prove to them, so I focus on my family n I.
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I hope I meet a woman like you one day 😫.
Thanks for sharing
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I agree...
Hopefully 😆
4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. There are plenty good women, but if a man can't find a single one, what does that say about him?
Women's morals and value are changing. They are less traditional, but that doesn't mean that morals and values aren't there. Women now just know that maybe being a dutiful wife and mom isn't the role they want to fulfill primarily.20 Reply
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1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Id say yes but I do disagree with the idea that if a woman doesn't want to start a family or is sexually promiscuous that she is no longer deserving of the title "good woman". My girlfriend was very open to casual sex when I met her and she shares my opinion of not wanting to get married or have children. Yet she is without a doubt one of the most moral-rich and just decent human beings I've ever met
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+1 yThings are different now. It doesn't mean women are automatically low quality. I mean I've only had sex with one man but I'm not one of those pure Christian girls either.
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Well, you don't have to be religious at all 😅. I'm saying there are qualities (labeled above) that empirically, statistically, and objectively promote well being and the flourishing of others. Those are good qualities for a woman to have. It's not just my standard, but I'm referring to what is objectively good for EVERYONE really. If a gender declines in quality, the other WILL follow. FACT. Both are positively correlated
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Fact? Arguable. If that were true murdering, raping mob bosses wouldn't be successful. You can argue certain traits have proven to have positive outcomes but it is not even possible to universally claim that only one set of traits equals success.
Being cut throat, heartless and self driven can also equal great success and happiness. - +1 y
Well, if you notice the qualities that I listed, they're all in sync with biology and evolution. 100%. I can back up every point using biology alone. I think the more closely related qualities are to our natural inclinations, the more happier we are.
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More than likely that is 😅
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Yeah but we continue to evolve every single day. Biology once depicted that we were mentally below what we are now and covered in hair. That wouldn't benefit us now, would it? No. Because we evolve.
Don't get me wrong I agree men and women have traits that suit them and that come more naturally but even if you have more traditional traits you can't rely on the 1950's way of living anymore. It isn't practical. As a woman you gotta be a little cut throat and tough to succeed these days. Lol. - +1 y
BUT! If you both want to live that way... that's fine. Expecting everyone to adhere to it though? Aha. Not a chance. Not in this world.
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That's the thing RJ, it's not the "traditional" way of living or 1950s way of living, it's quite literally the most objectively optimal way of living. I think culture has influenced or masked the true way of living. But, you're right, we evolve every single day sure 😅
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Yep.
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Also, I just want to throw this out there but I'm not sexist or anything 😅. I just want to ask these types of questions because I find them interesting. I don't think women are any less equal than men.
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+1 ythere absolutely are. i know probably about 150 personally and i don't really feel like i have a large social network
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thanks for MHO
+1 yi invite you to my country.(In future , if you could)
your description matches
to indian girls exactly like the ones who are around me.
( dont go to certain big cities which are v. famous like Mumbai , Delhi)
be careful becoz many many girls here dont have sufficient knowledge about sex
if you talk about sex, then there are chances of you getting slapped!
we can RARELY seen any woman involved in activities like -- pre-marital sex, polyamory , or ANY PROMISCUOUS ACT
there are a lot of such women here (every 2nd girl you meet)
i can rarely seen girls
i grew up in between them.
but parents oppose 'love' at the age of 17-23(i think) , so they will strongly oppose it
but after this age when you become financially independent, they may support you
which can end in arranged marriage With a person you love.
there are many festivals and traditional cultures here make them bit religious, ambitious, moral-rich , valuable, highly cultured
because we (boys and girls) always remain in supervision of our parents
our parents always know where we go, what we do , etc
i invite you and wish that you get a chance in future.01 Reply- +1 y
example---
today is Dassera (a festival of Hindus )
many such girls (from neighbourhood) will be coming to my home to wish me Happy Dassera (unlike other days) and i m also going to theirs
ritual ---. we have to worship vehicles and tools such as 🔨
also ,,, we ( boys and girls--along with parents)
go to neighbors , friends , relatives home with Bidi tree leaves ,, keep them on head of elder people wishing them happy dassera and seek blessings from them ,, then we wish our friends and/or siblings in the same way
so we have morals ! we develop morals and disciple living in supervision of people.
www.google.co.in/search
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYes there are still good women out there, but the problem is they are so rare, that they fail the cost to benefit analysis. In other words, I'm not going to go on the hunt for Gold so I just no longer hunt period.
Another thing to consider. With good women being so rare, if you do finally meet a good one, if it doesn't work out, finding another will be near impossible.21 Reply- +1 y
So true, yes, I agree.
I'm the type of female who waits before things get physical, unless it's just kissing.
It will take me months before I'm willing to trust someone enough to lay in bed with them.
And I haven't had sober sex since I was 16, since then I've only fucked a few times with the same guy high as fuck on pills.
Unfortunately, every single guy I know wants to fuck within the first week or else they want nothing to do with you. Every ex has cheated on me. And I'm assuming it's the same for all the other females who live in my area.
I don't give a shit how much money someone has. Actually me and a guy didn't work out because he thought he could buy a relationship with me.
If a guy looks sexy but he's a cunt then I won't be attracted to him so that wouldn't work out.
And, I also have personal preferences. Be honest, look decent, don't act like an idiot, treat me the way I treat you and we might have a chance.
So in short, I'm probably going to single forever.13 Reply- +1 y
That's kind of bad LMAO.
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Sure you were 😅
+1 yMy wife wants nothing more than just family time with our son she is in all a wonderful mother and wife. There are people like that out there still but you have to go through and search for them.
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Agreed mate
+1 yThey still exist. I met a true 'unicorn' as they call it. But they are scarce and hard to come by. I do see a correlation with the decline of quality men as well. A man can only endure so much bullshit from corrupt women until he finally gets mended.
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So true, especially your last sentence. Thanks a lot
Funny that you blame a decline in good men on women. In life we make choices based on values and motivations. If you as a man choose to compromise your values because of a woman. What does that say about the man? He didn't believe in his values to begin with.
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Well, the main motivation of values to begin with is because of procreation and survival 😅. If you assess that the very thing you're doing everything to obtain (women) has gotten down in quality, why would you still adhere to your values?
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No... values and motivations are different. I want money, its a motivation... my values tell me there are certain appropriate ways to get it.
Your argument basically says men are worthless to begin with and are dependent on women with actual values to keep them in line. I don't know where you got such low expectations for men at but maybe your daddy didn't teach you right. I for one would not have a guy around that didn't or couldn't follow a set of reasonable values. - +1 y
Well, I believe that one decline in one gender positively correlates to a decline in another. That's just a fact. The motivations and values have an underlying biological element to them. No matter what values or motivations you have, they are all predicated by a survival and evolutionary basis. FACT. If men have declined in quality it's because women have as well. That's a fact 100%
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Also, my dad didn't teach me this, so, you're right on that point 😆😆🤣.
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Well, I'm glad you have a sense of humor at least. However, if each gender is dependent on the other to set values... you propose that as a fact, I don't think it is a fact and I think its also impossible to prove one way or the other. So we can agree to disagree on that. But if its true, then it's a societal issue not a problem with women or men. ie its not that the women's decline in values that led to the mens, its a societal issue that is driving a value decline in both men and women. I would never say that the decline in "good" men is caused by the decline in "good" women. Its a societal shift in value perceptions that are driving behavior differences that impact both men and women.
I believe there is an intentional disruption of cause and effect cycles in our society that obviates societal needs for individual responsibility. Who needs to worry about having sex when you can just kill the fetus before its born? - +1 y
Well, there's many ways to prove it because the dynamics of why women do and act the way they do and why men do and act the way they do is because of the other. Evolutionary biology really. A literal yin and yang. Black and white. Either way, lets agree to disagree. Still can't believe you brought up my dad 😅. I was slightly caught off guard by that.
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O would say that I would have nothing to do with any guy that wasn't a "good" guy. that was non productive and lacked motivation and his own values to live by. I would question any man that blames his ineffectiveness on the lack of good women in everything except procreation. I would view him as weak and ineffective. You are either good or you are not, you hold the necessities to change what you are and have the ability to deny a change in values because someone else behaved without value.
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Yeah, I understand you fully. I'm just telling you the dynamics of male and female human beings that's all.
I can't speak for others but I know I'm not promiscuous. I do very much want to start a family. As far as virtue and morality, everyone has different standards. I am religious, for example. I believe that is virtuous. Now go set up a poll on this site asking if religion is virtuous or evil. You'll see the atheist brigade rant on about how bad it is. I think I am virtuous, but you may disagree. I do think there are still women like you've described. It may just be more rare.
10 ReplyWhat qualities make a women so wonderful?
For me it is pretty simply:
Very Caring for others (also those that are not part of the groupt), trusting vulnerable and still act predicting, taking care of there body and there heart as well as listening to there intuition. All of which I met also had a strong drive for purpose and a vision in life.
My impression is furthermore, that these women are usually very open for several groups of friendship rather than hanging around only in the same ingroup.
Who can find a women like that, pure like an unicorn, tender like silkhair, powerful like a stream of water and passionate like fire?00 Reply
+1 yWomen can't be traditional because there's nothing in it for us, I was one of those girls. Men are too selfish and uncaring.
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I'm not...
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We don't know that.
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Yeah could be
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Exactly
1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A lot of people these days seem to prefer fooling around to finding something serious. As someone who has never gotten the appeal of it, I have no idea why.
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i disagree, most girls seem to have got that way. All of my homegirls have hoes, none of my guy friends do.
There are, but their number is decreasing exponentially.
That kind of woman isn't really appreciated by the opposite sex though, especially in younger ages.
I don't know, I kinda resent being told that women are ALSO to blame for the decline of quality men. Although I reckon it may well be true, since standards for both men and women have been changing radically in the last decades.21 Reply- +1 y
Why are they rare though? 😫. Those are quite literally the highest quality women.
No. At least not western women. Seems like most of them want to be men. They have no shame and even take pride in being a slut. It's disgusting. Get a foreign woman.
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Oh my gosh, I've been saying that 😅. Western women have demonstrated these behaviors no one likes or finds pleasing, but most foreign women I've met haven't. Why? Culture mainly. Not saying American women are bad, but you'll find a drastically different viewpoint from overseas.
+1 yValues have shifted due to societal changes. Just because a woman has sex or doesn't want to be a stay at home mom doesn't make her lower quality.
"I feel like the decline in these types of women, have caused the decline of quality men."
And why not the other way around?12 Reply- +1 y
I never said anything about a stay at home mom or not wanting sex... Men and women's flourishing are positively correlated. Meaning, if one goes down, the other follows in the same direction.
There are good women and good men, and they really haven't changed much except more women are not accepting of a misogynistic patriarchal society. Stop blaming women for the problems men have because they were taught poor attitudes towards women. I know many women who "fit" your definition of good women, but wouldn't touch your definition of a quality man.
Grow up, learn to treat women as equals, with respect, and maybe you might actually find what you are looking for.11 Reply- +1 y
Did you read anything I wrote? How did you imply that? The genders are POSITIVELY CORRELATED with one another. If a decline in one gender is seen, it's almost always because the other is in decline as well. Now, the question is where lies the problem?
Yes, a lot, but it is true that the most notorious ones tend to be cheaters, promiscuous, shitty... but that happens with men too. It's normal for the bad people to stand out, just like a bad apple stands out in a bag of good apples.
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Yup agreed
Yeah, there are still a lot around.. And they really ain't hard to find... I think.. But yeah there are still good/great women around..
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Hopefully I find one... LOL 😰
I never understood why people cheat on each other or just like to hookup instead of finding someone to love. There are good men and women, but it seems like the bad ones put themselves out there more than the good ones do
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+1 yThe more good women disappear the more good men disappear then the cycle continues
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I agree with that
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I agree with you. By your definition, I’m “good” lol
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Well..
How do we start dating then? LOL
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yOf course there are. A lot of them just assume that guys don't want that type of woman, because the opposite type of woman seem to always get all the attention.
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Well, who said the attention was good? It's pretty superficial attention. Meaning, sex is the only motivation.
Opinion Owner+1 yI agree, but when those women are being ignored, they might not realize that.
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True
+1 yThey are out there they just dont want your ass lmao 😂
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LOL.
+1 yThey're really rare these days with the liberal agenda making promiscuity something to be proud of. Really disgusting
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I agree
I haven't yet. Once I do though im never going to let her escape, let alone find another guy. Can't help you, sorry! Jk. It really does seem like there is a decline of good quality woman. Maybe we're not looking in the right places? I've never tried out online dating, but I wonder if that could be the answer... 🙉
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+1 yYes, there are some good women.
Personally I believe in having morals and I do want a family and I always have wanted a family, specifically a big family.
But I feel like sometimes there won't be someone who believes what I do.
But my boyfriend doesn't want to do anything until marriage and he wants a big family, but Him and I both know that if God doesn't want it to work out then it won't. Cause My boyfriend is a very good person, and him and I both believe in God.10 ReplyI think the only difference today is that what's always gone on behind the scene is more public with the internet and social media. Everything is just out there and more streamline. Tons of girls were promiscuous back in the day, just like a ton of girls are today. That doesn't equate to low character or low moral values. Just talk to men in their 40s, t0s and 60s who actually had a dating life. The story is the same. Just different scenery
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I very much prescribed to the mindset that we are the ones that shape our own reality. And focusing on the pitfalls of society today merely because it's more public online makes it easier for us to act as if that's all that there is, when that's only a part of society. And trying to look back before the internet made things more public is disingenuous because there's a crap ton of stuff that happened in the past that you just never saw because it wasn't out there. Kind of like how there's all these celebrities that make these huge f*** ups the end up in the news today. Few years back you would never hear about it outside of people talking about it as stories. But you wouldn't actually know if it was true. Now, if something goes down you absolutely know it's true and there's probably video of it as well.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI swear the only people complaining are non promiscuous people; its fine liking a nun & all but you guys act like the world is half ending over it. Its just harder to find a girl who isn't open to that stuff, you just need to look harder & try not to put down people just becouse what you like isn't popular; cocks are not some evil thing that makes people a bad person.
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Well, obviously it's non promiscuous people 😆🤣. Also, no one says that you should like a nun. That's not the same comparison
+1 yThere are, actually. Plenty of them in my community that I know of; my religion encompasses a strong moral code that lays out effective rewards and punishments based on certain types of behavior. Our women are from amongst the few, though, so yes it's not very common these days
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+1 yits not as if most guys nowadays are great catches themselves it's a two way street
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You're right Adonis.
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+1 yI don't get how sleeping around can make you less of a good woman, if you want sex and the only "acceptable way" to get sex without being labeled any offensive terms is being in a relationship then we'll have tons of people getting in to relationships solely for sex and those type of relationships are bound to fail.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI believe they still have to exist to an extent but they are rare. I don't think you have a good chance to meet a woman like this. I think there numbers are to low and odds are women like this are already taken. I personally have given up on looking for a woman like this because I honestly don't think I will ever meet one. I mean it would be awesome if I did and I would be so luck to. But it isn't worth putting up with all these other women in hopes of finding something that may not exist.
00 Reply765 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Sure, if that's your standard of good, then I'd think there are such women still out there, though I do think that their numbers are declining.
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Well, what else other standard of good is there? I believe that the standard of good should promote flourishing of the woman, her immediate friends and family, and the future. Those standards I laid out, all promote those.
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Well, that's referring to the investment of the future. I think it's good because it's intrinsically UNSELFISH to want to establish a family. It's difficult and it's the natural progression of life. Having a family is a domain in which almost everyone will find themselves in their life sooner or later.
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I don't see how establishing a family is unselfish unless it's made with the motive: "I want to have children so the nation has more taxpayers to support it." or something similar, which I doubt would be the motive of most people establishing a family. I grant you, it is the natural progression of life for any species that wants to continue existing, but that does not make it selfless in my view. Also, take the example of Sir Isaac Newton. The man never married nor had children, yet is, at least in my opinion, one of the greatest humans to have ever lived. While I cannot vouch for his moral qualities or views, I'd still say that without him, humanity as a whole would be far lesser than what it is today. So I see no reason to label anyone "good" or "bad" based on their want for having a family.
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Well, maybe he did want to have a family but didn't have the capacity to. We don't know what was going on in Newton's head, at least not everything 😅. Either way, I wouldn't say those who don't want to have a family are "bad" per se, but they're definitely not the best they can be. They're not good, that is. Having a family is unselfish because it means sacrificing and devoting your life to your children and kin. How's that not unselfish?
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It's the kindest thing you can do for someone essentially.
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In non-abusive family and good family, that is true. But there are families that are abusive, that are broken, misarable and incapable of looking after their young. The reason families in Africa have many children is because they are increasing the chances that at least some of them survive. Therefore they are also consciously condemning their own children to die via hunger, violence and sickness. Are those people better than Isaac Newton? Because you are suggesting that they are, simply by the virtue of them having a family and him not. And having children and then taking care of them is not selfless, in my opinion. Your selfish desire for a child brought them into this world, then who else would have the responsibilities associated with that then the peopl who brought that child to this world? It would be unfair to straddle it to someone else, wouldn't it? Owning up to your choices in life does not make those choices unselfish.
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Since the childs opinion is not considered, as it is impossible, then it is essentially a selfish choice by the parents. Maybe the person didn't want to be born, maybe they didn't want to experience all that life has in store for them. We cannot know. That is why I wouldn't consider having a family a selfless thing to do. And because of what I've said, I don't consider someone wanting a family to have any effect on whether they are "good" or "bad". You apparently do, which you are free to do so, but I disagree vehemently.
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Well, those are the exceptions but not the norm. Please, don't use the "bringing your child into this cruel world" argument, it's so generic. The fact is the world is suffering as it is. Having children isn't going to make things easier, but it definitely has a element of altruism in it because almost EVERYONE wants to see their children flourishing. Also, you can't speak for the children in Africa being condemned to die via hunger. You don't know all of their situations and no parent brings their children into this world because they intentionally want them to suffer. It's a noble thing to bring your children into this world. Why? Because you can teach them to BECOME STRONG and good. Having no children means your weak, because you don't want to face the challenge.
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And you are simply a blind zealot, just like the people that support ISIS, for different principles. And apparently you are also either too unintelligent or too incapable too have good English reading comprehension either. I never claimed the African parents will have children because they want them to suffer. I claimed that they make the conscious choice of having many children to ensure that some of them will survive. But in making that choice, they understand that some of their children will probably die while young, which automatically means that they willingly condemn some of their children to die. And why don't you stop speaking for almost EVERYONE if you insist one me not speaking for the African children, I never claimed to know their situations or circumstances and yet you claim to speak for almost EVERYONE who has ever had a child, you worthless hypocritical piece of shit. I hope that you and people like you will never be granted power over others, because you are a tyrant.
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I'm not going to read all of that 😅. Let's just agree to disagree.
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+1 yIt's gotten really rare, and they're normally picked up quick. I agree though, women do basically set the standard for men so when they let go most men follow suite
00 Reply You're right. There are less good women. I don't want a family so I guess I'm bad then.
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Never said people who don't want families are BAD per se, but they're not really "good" or "unselfish" people either. You're 38, years old and haven't established a family yet? What are you going to do for the rest of your life until you reach old age and die?
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYour definition of good isn't the only definition of good that there is. If you want o be loved despite your mistakes or faults, you have to offer that same kind of love.
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It's not, but if we're looking at this from an objective point of view, what qualities promote the MOST flourishing of the individual woman and friends and family around her? Those I listed do
Opinion Owner+1 yThat has not been my experience.
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Okay sure
Opinion Owner+1 y"I'm saying there are qualities (labeled above) that empirically, statistically, and objectively promote well being and the flourishing of others. Those are good qualities for a woman to have. It's not just my standard, but I'm referring to what is objectively good for EVERYONE really."
OH HELL NO. Son, you're just talking out of your ass now. You get to have the life you want, but don't you dare tell me it's the only best way, and don't EVEN tell me it's science. Human beings have never lived all one way, and we never will - people thrive and have well-being in all kinds of arrangements. This world, and human social structures are not simple, black-and white, one moral and decent way to be - the women you are looking for are stuck in 1875. That's why you're having trouble finding them.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThere probably are, they just don’t come as expected. Maybe change your way for finding quality women. The problem these days is that everyone wants different things, it’s all about grabbing happiness while you can.
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+1 yYes but she's 40. Lol
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Lmao, that's too bad
Being promiscuous doesn’t make you not a good woman... how is that even remotely related? Can someone explain?
00 Reply497 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They're still out here its just hard finding guys to match
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThere are, but promiscuous women or women who don't want families are just as good as the ones you describe.
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I don't think so lol.
Opinion Owner+1 yNo need to insult them though.
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Did I insult anyone?
Opinion Owner+1 yYou were implying that people who don't share your views are no good. I wouldn't say it's insulting, but it's close.
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I didn't say that either. I said they're not bad, but they can't be called "good" either. Not the same as what you're implying
Opinion Owner+1 ySaying they're not good does imply they're bad. They can absolutely be called good, even if they don't fit your specific views.
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No, it doesn't. If you read my other posts to users on here, you'll know my position. Read my viewpoints on this page.
Opinion Owner+1 yThere are way too many other replies here for me to read through all of them, but I'll take your word for it.
+1 yAre there any good men who have the same values? Even in the times of old traditions, men were more promiscuous and morally lacking than women (because of the more freedom they had).
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThe short answer is yes but with technology and media I think people have different expectations than they ever had and because so much options I think a lot of people are much more picky now.
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+1 yThere are none left. Fuck hoes and get money.
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LOL okay Dan
+1 yThere are plenty of good women, just maybe not by your standards. :)
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My standards aren't even strict 😅. How else would you define a good woman if you take out my standards? The standards I laid out promote the flouting of friends and family around her, promotes the flouting of herself, and the future.
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Why does she need to want a family to be considered good?
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That's the natural progression of things and it's intrinsically UNSELFISH. It's literally investing in the future and promoting the wellbeing of others.
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Also, it's her maternal nature as a woman to want to rear children.
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I disagree. I know plenty of women who aren't inherently motherly. Also there's a reason people are choosing not to have kids these days.
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I can unfold all of those ALL DAY 😅. I don't think there's nothing that's going to change your mind... I can even go into biology when talking about promiscuity in females if you want..
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because of the madonna/whore complex. Reserved guys want a reserved girl, and unfortunately a lot of them feel empowered by having sex with lots of guys, which isn't good by reserved standards. Whatever happened to only fucking people you like. can't stand these unloyal hoes who complain about everything when they just need to fix themselves. Abstinence is more empowering than hoeing out and thinking you're cool
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@Sadboylover... but it's cool for men to do it?
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no, fuckboys are fuckboys, fuckgirls are fuckgirls.
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@Sadboylover lol. Whatever you say.
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+1 yYes. But they are very rare to find. And the younger you are, the more difficult it is to find them.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yBetter abduct a female u get hard for, then wash her brain until she is the obedient little female u crave
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+1 yHigher possibilities of those women in religious areas
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+1 yProbably. It's unlikely we will ever cross paths when she's available though.
00 ReplyI am a traditionalist
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Same
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Yeah, we’re a rare breed
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I agree again 🙂. Why aren’t there more women like you?
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The amazing USA, you?
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Just did
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+1 yI married one.
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Hope I'm that lucky
+1 yThere is, somewhere.
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Somewhere.. 😅
+1 yYes there are
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And you're one of them
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Maybe
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Maybe...
Not - +1 y
Rude
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Thank you
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Why u acting weird
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Why u acting normal
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Message me on the other one
2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yeah, but they are pretty rare.
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Why are they though? 😫
Lol
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+1 ySure, I imagine so.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWell of course it's our fault.
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+1 yDepends on where you are.
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+1 yYes there are
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