Jay Cheshire a 17 year old killed himself after he was falsely accused of rape by a feminist.
#FeminsimAgainstMen
Sounds like you have the case of the stawman
Fun story, liberals are activly dissagreeing with her.
The problem here is rather than propagate what you admitted to be what feminism is, you're attempting to declare Emily here as the defacto feminist.
It's like saying conservitives want to force every child to term, and liken to Florida, the women should marry the rapest. That means every single 8 year old girl raped by her brother or father should then be forced to marry them if the man desires.
Conservitism has taken an ugly turn with their own support to clan members, ”Jews will not replace us” chants and supporting a man who sexually harrased and assulted a young girl.
The word has been pretty poisoned though but people cling to it because they would rather see America burn than to support a liberal.
Stop resorting to fallacies, lies and misinformation to distort your own perception.
For once in your life stand up for what Conservitives are supposed to be.
Family values
Loving thy neighbor
Defending the weak
Fiscal responsibility
Left or right I want America to succeed, right now, we need to come together and unite our great country and flush these terrible people that make a mockery of us.
Feminism has taken an ugly turn as of late. True feminism is good but what we have now is the rise of the feminazi which is a problem. The lady in your clip is a Cunt (note the capital c) and that is bullshit. she's trying to push an agenda that raise women above men which is just inequality which is not what feminism is. The word has been pretty poisoned though so many people who would have identified as feminist distance themselves from the word (myself included)
I don't agree with her in total, but what she meant wasn't that men should get falsely accused for rape, but that since the amount of false rape claims are minimal it was more important to allow victims to speak up. So an ends justify the means train of thought.
I literally said in the very first sentence that I don't agree with her. I know it's a case of sacrificing the few for the many which why I created a case based on my opinions of feminism in which I forwarded a text suggesting that all false rape claims should be punished on an equal line as if the rape had happend. So if a woman or man falsely claimed that smoke raped them they would get the same amount of years or months as the alleged rapist would have got. We were about 50/60 voting where everyone voted yes to add that to the annual meet. I'm defending her because op doesn't lay out her case in an objective manner. She is falsely accused of man hate, and he represent one person that I heard about today as the average feminist. I don't agree with her or her ends justify the means, but I don't think it's fair to black paint her for what she didn't claim
@EmilyBenjamin false rape claim aren't minimal, they're the majority.
The actual rape claims are what's minimal.
Please provide sources to your claims, it's very annoying when you have no sources to claims that could be revolutionising. Considering most reports agree upon somewhere between 2 and 10%.
A true feminist don't think that men should be falsely accused of rape. I consider myself as a feminist and I would never think it's a good idea. Feminism is, of course, about elimination of patriarchy, but also about the equality between everyone. Saying that men should be falsely accused of rape would be a contradiction with the feminism's goal.
There's no patriarchy, there's no 'true feminism'.
Feminism is a man hating cult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-VzfBZg1w
You can't tell me that men never were seen as better in any point that women, that never men thought women's place was at house, that women always had the right to work for example. Okay, now, it's much better. It's true. But still, there are men who think that. Yes, there are also women who think that they are better than men. And it's also a bad thing. And for me, yes, there is a true feminism. True feminism is, for me, equality between everyone. Women who hate men are not feminists. They are extremists. And it's really a very bad thing.
Why why would i not tell you that?
I still think men are better than women (Physically and intellectually).
This world was created by men, everything around you, every brick, every wall, every house, every road, every invention, the phone you use.. EVERYTHING was invented and put there by a man. Men are
Give men the respect they deserve.
Don't aim for equality, you cannot be equal to a man.
Men and women are not same, they can never be equal.
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It's been a man's world for thousands of years.
Feminism has no right to exist anymore what we need is equalism which will make women suffer men's oppression and men experience* women oppression
*Notice how I said experience here but not before, well thats because its not as prominent anymore to where its suffering
The literal definition of feminism is equality of the sexes.
@EmilyBenjamin Feminism is a man hating movement.
How on earth do you get man hate from equality? You know what. You believe that. I truly can't bother, you obviously do not care about reliable sources and facts. So enjoy, I'm out.
@EmilyBenjamin feminist talking about facts?
There's literally no right a man has that a woman doesn't, there's fact for you.
Males get longer prison sentences than women for the same crime.
Here are your fucking facts
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What has feminism done to help men?
Asked them to be falsely accused of rape?
I want to say that this guy is 100% correct and what he said and showed is proof what you showed was nothing and what you said is false especially the definition of feminism, the definition is only "Gender equality" because retarded feminists made it so thats the definition not because thats what it actually means cause its not feminism is a corrupt bull shit organization that belittles men's rights and wants women to overthrow the patriarchy (which doesn't exist as two of the top 10 most powerful people in the US are women) to make a matriarchy which is female supremacy so go learn some facts before you try to argue with facts
Ok, I know I shouldn't, but you really are not catching it. I. Do. Not. Support. Her. I'm literally working on passing better laws that will help men. The last was for making sure men got the same maternity leave if their partner has a disability. Before that we increased mens part of the maternity leave with three weeks. Before that I got every one to vote for increasing the punishment for people who falsely accuse others of rape since we currently lack policy there. If it go all the way through, a false accusation will be equal to rape. That is feminism. After this, I don't care what you say. I work feminist causes that benefit men, because if women are superior then it's not equality, it's not feminism. Not that you would care, considering I'm just a gay, appateny engaged, man hater that front check facts. (I must say I'm disappointed in your lack of creativity there) cheers.
@EmilyBenjamin That is equalism not feminism
Actually feminism is a part of equalism, feminism is just a branch focusing on sex and gender equality. I've researched this for hours and I'm happy to give you a few links if you're interested
@EmilyBenjamin No its not equalism is a 100% different branch made for mens AND women's rights so stop trying to claim feminism created anything that has to do with equality CAUSE IT DIDN'T the actual definition is
Often confused for Feminism, Equalism is the belief that men and women of any race are equal, and should be treated so. Most equalists have a very low tolerance for derogatory terms towards anyone.
Example:
Sally: "As a feminist, I believe that everyone should be treated equally. "
Dan:" Then you believe in Equalism, and are not a feminist. "
I can't see how it is 100% different when both movements are about equality. The only difference is that feminism only focus on equality of gender and sex. Again, I'm more than happy to provide a few links just say when.
@EmilyBenjamin Nope, she's right, that is egalitarianism or equalism.
of feminism.
Feminism is about men sitting with their legs open because they have balls (manspreading)
or talking (mansplaining).
Or how air conditioning is sexist
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or that breastfeeding is not natural
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Feminism has done absolutely nothing to help men or women.
It’s fucked up. You can’t just ruin people’s lives and be okay with it.
Sidenote: Title is a bit clickbaity, what she said was fucked but she didn’t say half of what you put in the title.
She did
there's more
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Oh alrighty then.
Can’t complain about feminism being “misandry” when this is a comment you made here. You’re a misogynist but think feminism is treating men unfairly...🤔 now isn’t that hypocritical.
The most important question is what were they ALLOWED to invent? When were they allowed to lead? Have they always had the same working opportunities as men? Cmon you’re a man, your supposed to be “smart” right? Then use your brain and think about WHY women haven’t invented things throughout history.
For the last 40 years you have equal rights to men !!!
What did you invent until now? besides the entertainment industry.
Why there are few women in STEM fields? even though more women are getting education? you gonna tell me a man dont allows them now?
lol give me a break !!!
Come on use your feminist head and tell me without whining?
I dare you.
@Super2nd Leave them alone, femininity is fragile as fuck.
They're triggered.
MzAsh is right, hun. These things just don’t happen over night- You should know that (although that would be nice. ) 40 years is only a spec compared to the thousands of years men have had those opportunities. C’mon now, be smarter than that. You’re really trying to compare the two?
@Super2nd Dude, women have been under male oppression in all human history under all cultures. They had to BEG MEN to give them the right to vote, I repeat BEG.
Evolution choose men as power holders because it knew that women can't hold power.
To this day, they still beg men for more rights, they can never accomplish anything on their own, they need to beg men and ask their permission and help.
Yeah the difference between me and the woman in the picture is, i'm saying men have done more for the world, whereas she's saying men should be falsely accused of rape and their lives must be ruined.
Maybe if i had said 'women must be raped' then you could hold it against me.
But your counter argument is literally pathetic.
I'm very relaxed darling.
So you going to argue simple science that men are physically stronger than women?
Even the blind know that.
And again, I really hope there are more women who are intellectually high in this society ( i dont have problem with that ) !!!
But you wanna know the truth?
Feminism failed you !!!
Wanna know why?
cause they only focus on bashing men and complaining about how men are sexist. while instead they should support the women with more qualifications to compete in the job market.
They tell you... yea be a whore... be a slut... go fuck 100 men and then accuse them if you like...
Do you think this should be the standard for women?
Instead of lifting the women to a new level of intelligent and professional life.
Are you sure I'm misogynist? lol
I'll say it again, men are Gods and feminism is cancer.
Not a misogynist for saying men are better.
It's a fact.
We have 60% more physical strength.
All top tier scientists are males, men are better at chess. Top tier males have way higher IQ than females.
Every notable brand was made by a man.
Even this woman says men are better.
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I'm jacking my dick off rn, the only time i'll cry is when someone i love dies.
Some stupid internet girl called kdvec isn't going to make me loose sleep.
Honey, don't flatter yourself.
Don't cry when feminist?
Lol what? It's feminist who throw a fit and cry when presented with facts every time.
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You see? I didn't even care to check how to spell your goddamned name.
www.buzzfeed.com/.../inventions-by-women-that-changed-the-world
This might be we can use as a reference what women have invented
If that's what you wanna cool me then.. sure.
@fredrick_27 first off, buzzfeed? Really? That low?
And do you think women just pulled these inventions out their ass?
Do you know men laid the basis for these discoveries?
Men provided the knowledge for these women to go on and invent these inventions?
Use that as references, go to Google, type their names, find their history and records, it's not that hard
Read them all, its not just a person, search about grace hopper, read about her history
@fredrick_27 So in all human history, 50% of the population that female, invented 18 items?
Most of which are completely useless?
You can just say woman didn't invite, we haven't talk about some influential women in the history of mankind
@fredrick_27 dude wtf?
I'm sure there are women who have made great sacrifices and discoveries.
I'm not denying that.
I don't hate women, what the fuck are you trying to accomplish?
Women have done good for this world, i agree, but it's nowhere near as significant as what men have done.
If saying this makes me 'misogynist' then fuck yeah, i'm a misogynist.
That means the statement about 40 years and nothing is wrong, give credit when it's due bro
@fredrick_27 I read it all !!!
just like i said... its all extensions to the real ones !!! even the source code of computer software were written by men then she completed the job.
These women are great !!! none can say otherwise.
but tell me something, why don't these women aren't the role models of today females instead the cheap third wave of feminism's whores?
so who failed the women in the modern world? Aha feminists.
Fredrick_27 don’t even bother explaining anything to these boys. They think a human’s value is based on the amount of inventions they were allowed to make. It makes them feel better about themselves. Like they are important. Misogynists are always the most insecure males and feminism challenges them. They feel threatened by that 😂
Who has denied women any value?
The only person who has denied any value to a human is Emily Lindin who said innocent men should be falsely accuses of rape.
We're insecure.
And this is what she comes up with.
In my experience women love misogynist, i treat them like slaves in bed and they keep coming back.
We aren't a dying breed, we are in abundance.
This is become out of context, we even talk about invention, trying to degrade each gender, what else, war, what we can get from this, feeling better? Man and woman should learn to coexist in harmony, learn to see from different perspective so we all can understand each other and try to solve the problem together, not like this, this create hatred
Dumbass.🤦♀️You said you don’t identify as a misogynist but now you’ve claimed it 😂. Trust me, you are a dying breed. Why else would you be so desperate to bring feminism down if it wasn’t a threat to your existence? 😂 you wouldn’t pay ANY mind if you knew that misogyny and sexism was here to stay. Admit it, you’re scared shitless 😂 i love it
@fredrick_27 And what makes you think i'm against that?
Obviously you need both man and woman to keep the society going.
Plenty of good women here who deserve respect and love.
Only a minority are feminists/misandrists.
This not about who's to blame, look what happen here
@asker Yes, please don't loose hope, there are plenty of women who aren't feminist and love men.
Attacking? What kind of snowflake are you? Which part were you triggered by? 😂 i said nothing mean or rude 😂 i don’t kiss ass just cause she’s a woman. And i bet you she doesn’t even feel attacked herself, she might not like/agree with the comment but isn’t feeling attacked. Just you 😂
@Super2nd Don't worry about her, it's her time of the month.
Just take a break for awhile, you guys need to drink water
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Too bad for him. Do note though that you're using a single person called Emily Lindin as a representation for a decentralised movement. That is the main thing I think about feminism, there are good and bad people in it. Can't say much about it as a whole, except that it is more or less redundant in the West, since it's so decentralised with so many different people in it. It hasn't got a clear doctrine
I believe the women who falsely claim rape should be punished. You are damaging someone's life, false claims can make it harder for real victims as well.
Falsely accusing somebody of anything is already a crime, if I remember correctly. But yes, that should happen, falsely accusing somebody knowing that they didn't commit the said crime should be illegal
What the heck are you talking about? You're literally twisting her words to fit your views. I'm not defending what she said in that tweet because it was very ill composed. But you are giving a subjective opinion as if that was the norm. Honestly, that's kind of messed up.
@EmilyBenjamin you know very well she is a cunt for saying that !!! so dont even try.
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Emily, here you go. Can calm down now, okay?
She had NOTHING to do with that poor guys suicide. So bringing that up is presenting a very biased and even lying about the facts about this matter. She did not say that men should be falsely accused of rape. She did not falsely accuse someone of rape. And she is not a representation of the feminist movement. Which is three very important things op got very wrong.
She supports the cause.
Please leave before you piss me off, you're trying way too hard to defend this garbage human.
Why do you hate men so much?
I defend this 'garbage human' because currently you're the one with false accusations.
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Take a goddamn look at this picture again.
She represents feminism, she is a feminist.
Its funny how feminist say they also care about men's rights but this bitch just said that men should be falsely accused of rape to end the patriarchy, the same pos you're defending.
is she your mom? Do you intend to marry her? Are you a lesbian?
@super2nd I'd gladly take a look at your sources, whereas mine range from 2-10%. I'll happily send you the links
And now you are falsely accusing me. Charming. No she is not a my mum, nor do intend to marry her. I've looked at the picture enough times. And I 100% agree that the results don't always justify the means. Her claiming to be a feminist doesn't mean she represent all feminists, nor all females. I'm saying that you have twisted the truth to seem worse than it is. And then you lie about what I say and who I am, which has nothing to do with this argument. Please, keep to facts that are relevant to the subject, and calm down with the labeling and false accusation.
@super2nd I never said I agreed to the statement. I don't, I have stated three times on this post that I do not agree with her. I was serious about the sources, id very much like to see where you got those numbers, since those are quite outrageous and if true needs to be forwarded to the public. And I believe you got the matter a bit off, she did not mean that men should get falsely accused of rape, but that the few who does is worth it if the majority of victims get actual rapists behind bars. I can't say this clearly enough, I do not support this. And she does not represent feminism. The majority of feminist fight for the rights of women, lgbt member AND men. Just because a few fucktards misuse the ideology doesn't mean they are the norm. And why would you say that we are not equals, honestly, what would that do, or rather, who would that help? You simply come across as misogynistic prick.
'She does not mean.."
She did mean that and when she got the backlash she hid her tweets, even most women turned on her.
Are you seriously defending this woman's statements?
Jesus Christ...
You're the type of women who'd click that heart button on a tweet like this, you really hate men, don't you?
What women? women are leaving you behind !!! lol
nobody wants your disgusting man hating cult after being exposed for years !!!
The biggest blows to you was in the last election when 53% of WOMEN chose TRUMP over HILLARY !!!
you think people like me being sexist? lol then you can go to the male feminists who proved to be the biggest creeps to women.
Thats the truth Darling !!!
women came to realize they can't be equal to men in EVERYTHING !!!
and that's fine, doesn't mean we are disrespecting the women.
So spare me your feminists shaming tactics !!! It doesn't works on me.
What women? women are leaving you behind !!! lol
nobody wants your disgusting man hating cult after being exposed for years !!!
The biggest blows to you was in the last election when 53% of WOMEN chose TRUMP over HILLARY !!!
you think people like me being sexist? lol then you can go to the male feminists who proved to be the biggest creeps to women.
Thats the truth Darling !!!
women came to realize they can't be equal to men in EVERYTHING !!!
and that's fine, doesn't mean we are disrespecting the women.
So spare me your feminists shaming tactics !!! It doesn't works on me.
Ok very VERY clear lines are apparently needed I think this is the fifth time I say that I DO NOT under any circumstance agree with her. Again, please, when you reveal information new to all of mankind, kindly add your sources. According to the national election pool 54% of women voted for Clinton. Please don't dodge my question on sources, I'm trying to be open minded and let you change my mind. I'd gladly change my mind if you can provide reliable sources.
I did check for myself and I find no documents supporting your claim, could you please help me, since you're clearly more skilled at looking up info. (I've already tried the government officials so I assume you have a more reliable source.)
Yes white women voted for trump, non white women are also women. And I don't check the media of neither republican nor liberals. I check the number given by the government, which is currently republican. So you can keep your twisted left wing truths.
When did I blame anyone? I stated facts that the majority of female trump voters were white and that women of non white backgrounds also were women. Therefore the majority of women who voted, voted Clinton while the majority of women who voted for trump were white. And I'm still waiting for your sources that you apparently is the one lucky enough to observe.
Well you can say in the comments what sites you used. Type it out.
@Super2nd She's the epitome of delusion, don't bother with her.
Maybe I am, but unlike you I haven't falsely accused anyone.
Yet another feminist cunt who doesn't give a fuck about the well being of the male half of the population. She is a disgusting "human being".
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And anyone who defends her (e. g., @EmilyBenjamin ) is a disgusting person as well.
She literally doesn’t say that in that tweet lol, but her comment is still disgusting nonetheless. Sounds like a chick that hates men for no good reason.
There's more
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If someone falsely accused me or someone else of rape a lot, I'll get my lawyer ready for a murder trial. Completely fucked up and a perfect example of feminist goals
110 retweets (not all fans!) 92 likes.
She found 92 women among 150 million to like that.
I don't think she's representative or has any impact. And she closed her twitter act after this: www.ajc.com/.../
One in 150 million women, 92 likes...
Anecdotical attention seeker
As long as these men are Democrats, she's fighting a good fight
Maybe we should focus on this emily, not feminism as a whole, and I feel sorry to this Jay Cheshire, even his mom commited suicide one year after his son did the same thing
Feminism is misandry.
You wanna focus on me? Cool, that's kind of flattering. What would you like to know. I'm an open book.
Just to be clear, I'd gladly change my mind on most of these subjects if any of can provide reliable sources, there has been none this far. But please, let us at least try to keep it civil, it's quite annoying to be repeatedly told I'm an inferior to men and that I'm a man hater. Especially when I work quite hard for mens rights.
I mean Emily Linden, that feminist who post the tweets in Twitter, clearly you better than that
Emily Lindin
Well, I can't say I wasn't disappointed that I'm not gonna get a good grilling. But thank you anyway
The statement reveals a mind that operates in evil mode.
The statement also tells us what Feminism is really about.
The statement is also part of the reason why I am a MGTOW monk.
One woman doesn't represent a whole movement. You should know this.
I am a feminist. That womans comment is disgusting.
Feminism is just meh, Don't really care about them. But the 'feminists' there are morally reprehensible.
That's not what she said, but the actual tweet is still nonsense. Although there's absolutely some who actually agree with your statement.
Then all the powerful men should just fire and destroy women, which they can do very easily.
Now they are getting bold enough to be open about it.
But feminism was always about manhating. Its just more obvious
Its already happening. Than people wonder why feminism is no longer respected.
I'm a feminist just not s fucking Nazi they need to learn what EQUAL means
She’s so sick in the head it’s disgusting.
... This is a joke, right?
No, this is real, it happened, yet we spend our time to debate here instead of trying to figure out how to solve the problem once and for all
@fredrick_27 ... That makes me feel ill. She should be in gaol. That's not how equality works.
I don't think so, we need people like her to make us realize a movement can be more extreme to some extent, It help us to realize that mentality would create so much hatred to each gender and provoke society to the point where understanding, love and harmony are gradually forgotten
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