Why is a woman’s virginity so important and sought after in many parts of the world? (Page 2)
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Because ideally, the man and woman should lose their virginity to each other, entwined not just in lust sex, but soulmate quality sex.
It's only hypocritical when men who sleep around expect their wife's to be virgins.
I am a no sex till marriage kind of guy. To ensure that there is zero (absolute zero) chance in my woman's mind that I'll cheat on her.
I suppose she need not return the favor. But the fact that I haven't slept around and she has will always create the suspicion that I find her suspicious.
It's all about trust I suppose.
Ask only for the standard you'd apply to yourself.
A lot of cultures can be pretty oppressive, look at some in the middle east. It's a sense of control on women. The more hierarchal the culture, the more likely the less rights women have, greater poverty and difference between classes, etc. It's about a sense of control for women though and probably religious beliefs of her being pure. It started as a way for a man to know if he's the father if a woman has a child, but I believe many countries have contraceptives so there hasn't been a need for that. But like I said it's a way of controlling women's sexuality.
There are so many strange and outdated views on here clearly passed down from mother to daughter.
I think the single biggest reason is either religion, or the "effects" women are worried about from having one sexual relation with a "random" or man who she's not married to, such as unplanned pregnancy, STI's and the backlash they assume they'll receive. Along with the want and need to emoritnal attachment for sake of family. Quite a few other factors I imagine but those are the main ones IN MY OPINION.
For so many reasons ya lol
I mean it has been that long since women are just NOW getting equal rights. And its not even caught up across the globe yet
1. Its what they have offered men for many years. It gave them value. And it still does in many cultures today. For instance still today in many cultures The man has priority pick of girls. Obviously the virgin girl makes his dick harder so he wants her. Giving her more value. Thats one
2. Women put the pussy on a pedastool. Always making their pussys out to be part of royalty, gods gift to the world
... woman just like lock
and guy = key
a key that can open all lock = master key
a lock that can be open by lots of key = broken lock.
This how world work and it is not fair. but nothing we can do about it.
well from what i know woman use heart and guys use mind.
guy can hire an escort without any feeling at all only pleasure. while i think most woman can't do that. so for me virgin is important coz she never have sex before = higher chance that she won't cheat later on if I treat her right, and i don't need to worry if her ex (which have sex with her before) gonna come in our life.
I know it's always been this traditional thing and I'm often one to break tradition anyway, but even I think there's something really special and almost sacred about loving somebody in that full capacity for their first time.. whether it be a shitty experience or not.
Everyone likes to feel special. More specifically, most people, men AND women, prefer to feel like "the one". Relationships end every single minute of every single day when one partner fails to make the other feel like the one. The only reason male virginity isn't as highly valued is because most women still heap the entire responsibility of their own arousal, stimulation and satisfaction their fellas. There's no earthly reason to fairly expect a virginal male to be capable of achieving or surpassing such lofty goals.
Because you don’t want to date an outfucked bitch with a collection of STDs?
Why does every woman who’s has sex with more than two men have so many STDs to men? Meanwhile the guys that do are praised? Tf?
Because women have a vagina. A warm and wet environment that hosts all sorts of illnesses pretty well. Yeast for instance. It will die off on a dick in a week or two, but it’s always present in a vagina. My Ex was treating it for years. No chance to get rid of it. She infected me with it again and again. Also it diminishes the ability of the body to defend itself against other diseases.
Preach brother.
I didn’t ask why STDs affect women more than men. You think every woman who’s had sex have an STD or what? You’re assuming she’s irresponsible and has sex without a condom?
Great question, archaic beliefs that this is what makes a woman pure and righteous. Religious rigmarole. People not understanding anatomy and thinking virgins are magically tighter than anyone ever and you're only tight once as if your penis is so powerful it could destroy the integrity of an entire muscle group in one blow (pun intended).
I'm sure there's more.
I think there ARE morals connected to sex, though. Just because a belief is archaic, doesn't mean it's bad, haha.
@BrianMerritt I don't mean that all the beliefs are bad.
Here's the thing. Everyone has different opinions and feelings on the subject you know? (I know you know that) I think that if you want to stay a virgin until marriage you have that right. I think that if you want to limit the number of partners you have, then you have that right. I think if you wanna bang 1000 people then as long as all of them consent to sex with you and you are taking the proper measures to remain STD/I free then you have that right.
I think we should respect each other no matter what. I also think that it is wrong to judge people based off of their number of sexual partners (both saying they're lame for having "too few" or dirty and worthless for having "too many"). I think that's wrong. If you are a virgin who wants to be with a virgin that is great and you can ask someone if they are a virgin and no one should lie and hopefully you will find your mate. Otherwise the only thing that matters is being clean.
We have the RIGHT to do anything we want with our lives.
We do have to respect each other as human beings. But respect is earned... we don't have to respect someone who acts dishonorably.
I think that the decisions a person makes about something as serious as sex says a lot about their decision-making. AND, for reasons I've written essays about in other GAG questions, keeping it in one's pants is, I think, a better way to live. It may be archaic, but now there is even science out backing up the benefits of people who abstain from casual sex.
@BrianMerritt There is science out or there are articles out that claim this? Because I can only see it as a potentially psychologically damaging thing honestly. There's a difference between someone who doesn't care and is very free with themselves and someone who doesn't know another way. I think there are too many factors to automatically condemn and disrespect someone over this. Which is why the number itself, to me, is irrelevant because you don't know how they got there.
That's exactly what it is. Sex changes people and it changes a relationship. There's a reason why EVERY friends with benefits situation ends up on GAG as a "is he/she catching feelings?" There's no such thing as NSA.
I'm not telling anybody to automatically disrespect anybody.
@BrianMerritt OK, well then we might be agreeing, but I'm not sure lol
Ultimately, I think it takes a toll sometimes. I can only speak as a girl and I can't speak for all girls, but I think there are too many mixed messages of what guys want, and not all of us are concerning ourselves so much with what we think guys want... but enough of us are. You never know which way to go. Sometimes you make mistakes. Sometimes you make a lot of mistakes, but it doesn't make you unfaithful, or immoral, or any of those negative things people sometimes pin on people. Some people? Sure they might be cheaters. Some people might be immoral terrible people, but I don't think a number reflects those things. Sometimes a number is a long list of mistakes and maybe it does show that that person sucked at learning their lesson at first. And maybe they never did, but you'll never know that just by judging them. And I'm not saying YOU are judging. I just mean "you" like people generally.
The reason I'm generalizing is because I have to for the sake of the conversation.
Cause men are predators in their thoughts and actions. They only want to fuck virgins, but they're running around the globe on a marathon of who will "devirginize" the most pussies. Of course, there's no such thing as man being whores, it is only attributed to the elite, the best of the best.
" "devirginize" the most pussies"
sounds dominant
😂😂😂 totally
@Seth13 something alphas do
Mostly sounds heartless
Ik lol but not so sinister. U guys make it seem as though all men are monsters.
I'm dominant but only intimately. Every other aspect with who I'm dating we are equal
No ofc not, and thank god, cause then I'd really be attracted to wamen only, but it's sad that the good guys are the ones you hear of the least and prefer to stay in the dark
Literally me 😂. I've been fucked over so much I've decided to stay single. I'd rather live my life alone that deal with bull shit. Friends and family are good enough
Which is why so many of us are losing faith in men, cause the good ones have lost faith in us. It's a vicious circle
Honestly yea it is. But nothing can be done. If I'm meant to meet someone I will, if not then I'll learn to get over the urges to be in a relationship
“it's sad that the good guys are the ones you hear of the least and prefer to stay in the dark”
It’s sad they are the ones women turn their back on until they’ve been fucked over by the overconfident fuck boy type, get fed up of being fucked over time and time again, and then decide to do some work themselves.
If women turn the good ones down then you're not meeting the good women. Simple.
Lol it's shirty either way u guys look at it so why argue
Shitty *
Some men just like to think every women are bad and stand by it
Women do the same. I don't do it but I agree most people do
Sex, ultimately can't be separated from its biological purpose, creating babies/offspring. If you look at other animals, such as bears; they actually kill babies belonging to other males, for completion and rights to females and spreading their genes. The idea of a female choosing multiple males, makes males feel insignificant, not special, and also they feel, the behavior of sexual relations with many males makes them impure. Meaning, it’s a hostile person and biological environment to grow “their” baby. Also, that feeling comes from both religious teachings as well as challenges males emotional attachment to love, because when males hit puberty, the girls who they are infatuated with are usually virgins, and that stays with them forever
In before sexually liberated women bash guys who love virginity and say they have baby dicks let me stop them
Nowadays porn teaches virgins that 8 inches dicks are the norm!
Yeah. pretty comical since only about 3% of worlds population have 8 and longer 😂😂
Only fool's believe those assumptions from movies and a lot of pornstars those days have around 6-7 with petite girls thet makes it look longer.
It's universal
if she's a virgin, it means she's not pregnant. so if the guy has sex with her then it might make him the first one to make her pregnant and his 'seed has been spread'
men like fresh pussy cause it shows she's chaste and they have this weird idea that it makes her less likely to 'cheat'
Lol you get it unlike some of the stupid answers by some women here.
Men don't think investing in another man's kids is a good investment. Cleanliness has a lot to do with it as well. Best way to make a group of men not want to drink from the punch bowl... stick my dick in it.
Of course many are desperate and quite thirsty...
I guess the same reason so many women responded with "ewww gross" on my question about buying used sex toys. Men don't want a used vagina
Would you purchase used sex toys? ↗
A vagina depreciates like a car. The more you drive it and more miles you put on it the more value it loses. The more penises that enter a vagina the less valuable it is.
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I think most men don't care if a girl is a virgin or not. They just don't want a total slut who slept around with 25+ guys.
But it's okay for men to sleep around? We're people too and have the same if not higher sex drive as men. Why do we have to suppress our sexual desire and hide the fact that we are sensual? It's complete bullshit.
@leley "have the same if not higher sex drive as men"
men generally have higher sex drives than women
You don't know what are you talking about.
@mateus Why?
@leley You don't have to suppress anything. It's just a social glitch that no body likes but no one wants to be the first to brake it for fear of being shamed. It's called pluralistic ignorance.
Sex drive is individual regardles of gender. There are women with high sex drive and women with low sex drive. Same applies to men and it is constantly changing. Some people can have high sex drive for some time then have low drive for a period. It is never constant and is gender related.
I meant "not gender related" in the last sentence.
@mateus Of course, any one woman could have a higher sex drive when compared to any one man but in the overall population men definitely have higher sex drives than women. It's biology. Man have like 7x more testosterone than women. The average male has a higher sex drive than the average female.
Psychological research has yielded substantial evidence supporting what most people already suspected: men do indeed want sex more than women.
journals.sagepub.com/.../S15327957PSPR0503_5
The article was published in 2001. Most of the research in the article is from the 70's and older. There has been a great deal more that we have learned in the last 50-60 years. You just have to update your information. The artical is very narrowly focused and it resarches very limited spectrum of what sex and sex drive is.
@mateus www.psychologytoday.com/.../the-reality-the-male-sex-drive
I heard back in the day females was property to men and if they was used they will lose value now later on in life around the 1960 men were falling in love same as women was getting equal rights but the virginity rule stills apply to females. I think maybe it's because females are more powerful so men try to make them look bad as a tactic that was used for many years. I understand female have a right to do anything with their body's. They are not objects or animals but human beings. You really gotta dig deep into the past and see why stuff was started than you will get your answer
Because they are primitive and don’t understand that there is birth control now. Also religion stigmatized it as a precious vagina gift. Also men know that they can be the #1 man if no one has been there before... which just shows off how insecure guys who only want virgins are. A girl can’t tell you that you have a baby dick if yours is the only one she has seen.
lol wrong nowadays porn teaches virgins that 8 inches dicks are the norm
Why is that so bad?
Honestly... I feel like having too much experience can actually hinder a relationship... because u can consciously or subconsciously be comparing your partner (that you should love) to all the other partners you had. That's not really fair, or healthy. And don't tell me it's easy to not compare them, because humans are programed to always find flaws.
@virginbish what makes you think past lovers were sex Gods? lol
Lol, can't a girl dream?
Alright y’all dicks can’t be 18 inches... a man will die from lack of blood circulation if it gets to more than a foot. And I was talking about men’s insecurities not about how partners affect people... but yeah a couple of pre marital partners doesn’t hurt anyone... sex with like a crazy number probably does...
What if they tell you "it was amazing sex" or "it didn't work out, but we had lots of sex... was fun"
Would that not make u feel like he still sometimes thinks about her?
@virginbish you are a child. Everyone assumes that their partner had a good time with one or more of their exes as an adult and it isn’t something that people really talk about much either. I’m extremely confident in myself little girl.
What if they brought it up tho... would that not make u go like wtf?
And yeah sure... u can be confident, but that's not really tasteful in my opinion
@virginbish you don’t really understand the concept because you are barely out of childhood. No man is stupid enough to go in to detail about the nitty gritty of his sex life wifh a girl friend. A friends with benefits maybe , but a friends with benefits doesn’t really care. Just ask the guys on this site... none of em are stupid enough to tell their girlfriend about the time their ex let them fuck her up the ass.
My god woman... do u not know how to reply aside from pointing out my age? Ffs, just explain it. And I will have u know that someone actually did... and they were in a committed relationship... and he didn't understand why that was such a big deal, but the girlfriend was upset. So yeah... it does happen. but u r right, that makes sense, a guy would prolly not do that unless it was friends with benefits. Just so we have it straight, u would get annoyed if your boyfriend did talk about it in detail right?
@virginbish any woman would be annoyed. Only assholes do that to their girlfriend.
What if he has a big dick and wants a virgin. How is he insecure?
@proteingal there are plenty of things that make men insecure. Like pre-mature ejaculation , too much body hair , not having a nice body , not understanding female anatomy. Both genders can be very insecure.
And how a virgin doesn't know what a sexy male body looks like?
@proteingal men have insecurities too. I’m serious, this includes some hot guys.
Not the answer to my question
@proteingal they do know or better yet different girls have different stands... yes this includes virgins
How wanting to date a virgin shows his insecurity?
@proteingal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0thpEyEwi80
This trope in media
Why would a guy prefer a promiscous woman over a pure one?
@proteingal you are going to extremes most people loose their virginity at the age of 17 . It’s not as if most adult women who have had sex are hoe bags, that’s just disrespectful. Most adult men aren’t virgins either unless they are Tim Tebow. In adulthood people strive to have a relationship with someone who is their equal intellectually , emotionally and sexually. Adult men do not expect women to be virgins either... teenage boys are in to it because they can brag about deflowering a girl and it makes them feel special... grown men also like sex and a little girl who thinks virginity= purity will make him run. He wants a woman who is independent and has a career and is mature emotionally and confident in her sexuality. Not being a virgin doesn’t make someone a slut.
" He wants a woman who is independent and has a career and is mature emotionally and confident in her sexuality"
you literally said that sex makes a woman independent, confident, have a career and be mature emotionally
LMFAO
if this was true that would apply to most women as most women are not virgins
LMFAO
Adult men know they can't get a virgin
@proteingal I didn’t imply a correlation. It’s just something that most people choose to do. Just wait how cute it will look in your 30’s
why would a woman in her 30's appear as cute? lol
@proteingal being a virgin at 30 ain’t cute
and that's great.
Why would a 30-year-old mature woman be considered cute.
it's not a compliment.
You thought you could diminish virginity? try again
Because those people are looking for a serious relationship and to start a family and that's the quickest efficient way of evaluating the girl's background, education, health, character, etc.
The better question would be, why wouldn't it be important? Or, what kind of men would actively look for very experienced women?
Men give value to vagina. And it just so happens that virgin vaginas are on top hierarchy.
Ask yourself, or your fellow man why.
The best answer
Oh puh lease
Like not being a virgin has ever stopped a guy from chasing her lol
there's a point where it also hurts her too
I also see many guys that wanna stay away from the virgin lol
Im one of them 😝
@TripleAce for the average man of course lol but just because men prefer virgins, doesn't mean non virgins are doomed.
Virgins didn't always have a reputation as the meek, innocent, babes in white-flowing dresses the word conjures up today. There was a point when virgins were actually seen as powerful and virginity signified female independence and autonomy more than sexual abstinence. For women it was always a sense of power.. A since that you are waitin for the man went for you..
Yep, there was once a time when it was something to be proud of.
Especially women from more noble families, who could afford being more selective, had better education, etc.
@dipta Exactly 8)..