I think they do. These days a woman can just say she was raped and people are inclined to assume the man is guilty before it's even been proven. I understand this is a delicate subject and I'm not saying you shouldn't believe rape claims, but like anything else, you have to go into it without biases and a critical mind.
Also, men's shelters have been reported to shut down due to lack of funding, and men also have a higher rate of suicide because they don't have the same resources as women.
Women have support groups, marches, days dedicated to them for all manner of things. Men sort of get left behind.
However, that doesn't mean there aren't female struggles or issues. We all have our shit, but in the modern day I think men have the shittier end of the stick.
You are right on your decision to say that, There are a lot of girls who when drunk become obnoxiously horny and push men to have sex with them even if they are uncomfortable. Then in the morning they claim rape.
Female struggles in places like the USA are really over exaggerated, But there are some struggles but they are not struggles men don't deal with either.
Depends. Women are shamed and objectified and bullied when people find them attractive by both mrna nd women alike. She'll b labeled a slut by everyone if she's hot and men want her. Men yes we odjectfy them to and no one cares but they at least don't get the title of a slut or whore if they are attractive to people. Both have it hard in many ways yes. Bit men with never know how hard it is to be a women and be hated by women and men for doing things and having to be perfect. And women will never know how hard it is to be a man and have to be strong and reliable all the time and not be able to be weak
In fairness I've only ever been called a slut or who're by other women, ironically by slurs and whores who are probably self conscious about being sluts and shores lol.
No they are sluts by definition, it's up to them how they choose to live their lives but they shouldn't project their own insecurities to try to hurt others.
Yes, for the simple reason that women are now the golden goose. If you have a woman in your company or a part of a project that project becomes better. Now don't get me wrong, I love women, in commercials, movies, music etc.. but woman have started to become preferred over men. I suppose you can call me out on this but that's a trend that I think I see happening.
I agree on the STEM thing. I was offered a STEM place at college with a grant and a half scholarship even though I didn't quite have the grades to qualify and didn't even apply for that.
People need to step outside their 4 bedroom American home and live for a month in Myanmar or Ethiopia... then you’ll know who really has it bad in 2018.
Okay, so women have it worse it Myanmar and Ethiopia. That’s fair to say. What about in countries like America? Why do you think it is that people would have to leave the country to see a place where women have it bad? Could it possibly be that because in modernized first world countries men actually do have a much more difficult time? 🤔
Yeah, no one’s saying that isn’t tough, but women in 3rd world countries often aren’t even recognized as independent individuals, much less given equal rights/treatment, so I’d say that’s also pretty bad.
@CarpetDenim My intention was to point out that (men and women) have it way worse in other places and the whole “first world gender issues” thing gets put into perspective.
But if we focus on gender issues in the first world, I don’t see how men have it any worse than they did in say 100 years ago in 1918 ... I mean back then if you were a man you were given a rifle and told to go fight a war or face prison. Struggling to find out where modern society puts up barriers for men in a way that simply turning back time would turn say average joe 9-5 into a superstar community leader and role model.
Obviously, life is different for men and women. Comparing my misery to your misery is theoretically impossible to accomplish with any validity and, more importantly, what benefit comes from deciding that men face more difficulties than women (or vice versa?)
y'all face sexual harassment in the office y'all face rape / sexual assault from the other gender (yes woman can fuckin rape men) y'all are treated like lesser beings in eyes of certain groups (just like we were in the past)
Example for being treated like less, A drunk abusive mother wins custody over children over a father with a good job that doesn't drink, Now he is forced to pay child support or face jail time
I'll say it like this - both men and women have it worse in DIFFERENT aspects. The experience is not and never will be the same or even opposite - just different.
@Trollfather I think men are more practical in that aspect thus why they are more successful. Women seem to either use the wrong means or often do it for attention. Like I think more women attempt suicide than men.
Yeah they may attempt more but men actually kill themselves - ultimately go through with it. I think women just realize it's not worth it and have second thoughts before going through.
@GnarCute A study done by the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention in 2014 stated that suicide was the 10th leading cause of death in the U. S., imposing a cost of $51 billion to the US annually. Other additional facts showed by the study were:
1. The annual age-adjusted suicide rate is 13.26 per 100,000 individuals. Men die by suicide 3.5x more often than women. 2. Women attempt suicide 2x more often than men. 3. On average, there are 121 suicides per day. White males accounted for 7 of 10 suicides in 2015. 4. A firearm is used in almost 50% of all suicides. 5. The rate of suicide is highest in middle age—white men in particular.
Women who do not actually take their own life are not attempting suicide. Rather, they are attempting to get attention. Taking your life and downing a handful of aspirin during a pity party are two different things!
"She don't throw any t-shirt on and walk to a bar She don't text her friends and say, I gotta get laid tonight She don't say, it's okay, I never loved him anyway She don't scroll through her phone just looking for a Band-Aid
It's different for girls when their hearts get broke They can't tape it back together with a whiskey and Coke They don't take someone home and act like it's nothing They can't just switch it off every time they feel something A guy gets drunk with his friends and he might hook up Fast forward through the pain, pushing back when the tears come on But it's different for girls
She don't sleep all day and leave the house a wreck She don't have the luxury to let herself go She won't call just to curse from a wall, she can push When the going gets tough, yeah, the guys they can just act tough
It's different for girls when their hearts get broke They can't tape it back together with a whiskey and Coke They don't take someone home and act like it's nothing They can't just switch it off every time they feel something A guy gets drunk with his friends and he might hook up Fast forward through the pain, pushing back when the tears come on But it's different for girls
It's different for girls Nobody said it was fair When love disappears, they can't pretend it was never there
A guy gets drunk with his friends and he might hook up Fast forward through the pain, pushing back when the tears come on When the going gets tough, yeah, the guys they can just act tough So tough It's different for girls" J T Harding / Shane L McAnally / Dierks Bentley
I agree so lets not make men discriminated like women were discriminated just a while ago. I like that women are protected now more than ever and it should be a standard. Women also had it bad when they didn't have a right to vote, were victims of domestic violence, prosecuted as witches and burned at the stake, abused in a lot of ways, so men haven't suffered much as women but men participated in wars and had their share too I guess. Still today there are places where little girls are sold to arranged marriages and also places where genital mutilation happens and we should keep that in mind. I know you referred to the western word and the first world countries butt I still wanted to mention all this, we need to protect both sexes and simply try to become better people day by day
I don't think so! Men make their own problems and then they blame society when they get butt fucked by the system.
All a guy really needs to do to live a happy drama free life is to, A) get a decent job, B) don't grope women at work, on the subway or in bars , C) live modestly, D) stay single, E) don't get random women pregnant, F) have sex only with prostitutes on a pay as you go basis, and G) love your dogs and cats.
This is what "walking the straight and narrow" actually looks like for guys living in the 21st century.
Men have it worse because the rule of thumb, "girls are weaker than men" so obviously we can't do 90% of what they can. Bs
Girls rape guys Girls Sexually assault guys Girls Sexually harass guys Girls cheat more often than men. Girls even when bad parents get custody of children most of the time Girls get more social back up because they are female. Girls can get men arrested for shit they didn't even do.
I wouldn't say we "have it worse" all in all. The problem is that the rising attention to "women's rights" is one sided and only serves to fix our societies gender problems when they affect women, so we're removing pitfalls of sexism while leaving the leg-ups, which leaves the other gender worse for wear since they lose their leg-up and the pitfalls stay.
In other words, having a movement based on equality only focus on one side of the problem wasn't the best idea.
I would say on the grand scale of things that men probably do have it harder, yeah. Most of what's against women does tend to be sexual situations, though at the same time they will also try to use that to their advantage.
But then, men are still the ones who run stuff so they shouldn't be letting so much bad happen to their own.
I don't think it can be quantified to a comparable scale Men have issues Women have issues Some of the issues are the same others are different In some aspects of life it is better to be a man others a woman What gets to me though is that there are a lot of people out there who claim men don't have any real problems men don't don't experience sexism and men have all the advantages
Women will always be more sexualized, but as of late, men are becoming more and more attacked. So yes, today they have it worse. The last 200 years? No.
@ericclayton things don't sound that great for men 50 years ago. I can't imagine having to work all day to support another person who stays at home all day.
I mean that's around the time domestic appliances became in use in most households. A stay at home wife basically has all her housework done in about 2 hours and the kids are at school until 9-3. All she has to do is make dinner for 5 or 6. That's about about 4 hours work per day.
@Catholicgirl22 you’re... I don’t even have words. While I think if a woman or man wants to be the stay at home mother, thas their choice, you’re 20 and I don’t think you understand what it’s like to be a stay at home mom. Actually, I’m kind of convinced you’re a man on a pink account.
While women were becoming more equal in society and the workplace in the 1970s (1968 ;)) I was referring to the 40s and 50s and decades before, when women literally weren’t allowed to work, and couldn’t vote. In the 70s/60s it was much better, but they still weren’t respected in businesses.
My point was that it isn't the 40's or 50's, what matters is how things are now.
Op's question, while I see the hypocrisy fro extreme feminists, I believe men and women both have their own struggles. The media and establishment only pays attention to female issues, however. That's the difference.
Women in 40s definitely worked (see ww2) en.m.wikipedia.org/.../File%3AWe_Can_Do_It!.jpg . Women worked all through the 50s too. Women have always worked since the industrial revolution and before, as nurses, teachers, maids, cooks, wet nurses etc. Housework and child rearing at one time was very hard work almost as hard as the manual labor jobs most men worked. Buisness was usually reserved for a certain class of people but was opened up as more typists and Secretary's were needed. en.m.wikipedia.org/.../File%3ASweatshop-1890.jpg Even today there's gender inequality in refuse collection, construction, haulage, sewage work, mechanics, lumberjack, plumbers yet no real push from feminists to even the gender scales with those industries or with gemale dominated industries. You seem to be focused on middle class women in the past or the middle women In Jane Aust in novels
Fuck yes. We're just supposed to sit and suffer the wrath of what women are trying to do to this society, glorifying every action on them. That's one of the reasons why I hate society.
Can you show me one instance where, from a legal, employment, or social standpoint, women have it worse then men? I'm only asking for one. Are you curious if I can show you volumes of instances where men get screwed under identical metrics? I can (and so can anyone else who isn't illiterate), and with hardly any effort.
@glenns I’ve posted this weeks ago, are you ok? Do something productive with your time instead of trolling websites trying to prove how men have it so much worse. Have a great day/night.
White Males have it made and have done so for at least the last 5000 years. Males in general have had it made for the last 5000 years.. Modern times or not..
* Note... In general throughout the world.. Yes slave, war and poverty are exceptions.
Not necessarily worse, but women do have it easier. I voted other because it shouldn't really matter! I'm not going to speak for other men on here, but my thing has been to work harder and kick more ass when the pendulum swings against my favor.
@glenns legally no, but possibly socially. I honestly don't know, and I can't say with any authority. As for the studies I referred to, it was based on the experiences of Transgender people who report the changes in thrir lives, including the "Self Made Man" experiment.
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