"Men have responsibilities. Women have choices." Agree or Disagree?

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MlleCake · Accepted Answer

I appreciate why it can feel that way, but I don't think it's entirely true.

The way the world expects each man to be perfectly strong, breadwinners, who know how to lead and do everything is a pretty heavy trip to lay on guys. Men aren't all one way, and it requires a lot of men to really suppress who they want to be. Normal emotions, insecurities and foibles of being a human being are treated like a crime for men to admit they go through. It's not the least bit fair. But it's also something that men can speak-up about and change, more than ever before.

Women and men are whole human beings who experience a lot of the same difficulties in life, and men deserve as much emotional support and understanding as anyone does.

No one has a perfectly easy life.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Anyone who disagrees needs to swallow the reality pill but I’m warning you, it’s not a pretty world without the delusions.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Men only gain respect through AGENCY. They are respect for what they can do. Attractive women can survive off of appearance and identity.

Bananaman177 · Accepted Answer

Women have more choices, men have more responsibilities.

lumos · Answer

Fully disagree. Every functioning adult has responsibilities and choices.
Funny example:
My grandpa’s health has gotten a bit worse, so we had to sell his house and have him move in to a home for the elderly. My mom has two half-brothers. She didn’t want his house because she didn’t grow up in it/had no attachments to it, so she sold her part to her brothers a long time ago. Technically they got all the responsibility to empty it out and sell it, since my mom has nothing to do with it legally. But guess who has been orchestrating the move, the emptying of the house and the cleaning? My mom. Guess who my grandpa ordered to do it all? My mom. Guess who had to do fuck all and barely even tagged along to help her? Her brothers. One of them didn’t help emptying out the house because he was too busy having brunch with his friends. The other brother just sat around with his hands in his pockets and waited for my mom to take charge. Hadn’t she done it, my grandpa would have cussed her out. They got most of it done in a day. Then when they had to finish it up, neither of her brothers showed. One of them didn’t show up because he had a hangover. Imagine that. So my mom, as per usual, ended up doing most of the work on a house she had nothing to do with.
Just an example to demonstrate that gender has nothing to do with it. Her brothers had all the legal responsibilities to take care of the house, but they chose to have my mom do it all for them. There are both privileged men and women who never have to lift a finger in their life, and those who feel like the world is resting on their shoulders. To assume anyone is just cruising by in life without even knowing what their situation is like, is highly judgmental and a pretty shitty person. Y’all don’t know what other people are going through, so to make assumptions like that is extremely arrogant.

madhatters4 · Answer

disagree. all people face both responsibilities and choices.

Investigator · Answer

I find this question interesting, because the answers are very revealing of even this sample size: most of the women are talking about sociological functions, as in they observe everyone to have the same societal burdens and responsibilities. This is a very narrow, monolithic idea that exemplifies the "feminist" ideal of equality, i. e. that men and women are interchangeable and have equal measures of hardship. It is a "narrow" mindset, because it precludes the concept of biological imperatives, something which a lot of women are unconsciously-aware of, but would probably rather pretend don't exist, because it means they aren't truly equals (implying the ideal "world of equals" is filled with asexual clones that are all functionally the same, save for a few idiosyncratic differences in behavior) and they aren't.

The men, on the other hand, are not under any delusions of function: they are fully aware of what they can and cannot do. There is no campaign for men to be stay at home dads or be house husbands, because they are assumed to be self-reliant and undeserving of outside help. Men are the workers of society, they are expected to do the heavy lifting and maintain the infrastructure. Their biological directive is to be providers and they know it. Up until very recently, this worked out pretty well... and then World War 2 happened and suddenly women were needed in the workplace because men were at war. Now, women can occupy the same positions in society as men--keyword being "can", because unlike men, women aren't needed in the workplace. Now, sure, there are some places where they bring unique perspectives that men simply lack, but for all intents and purposes, their involvement in modern careers is entirely optional... unless we're talking about single mothers, then it isn't a choice, although getting involved with the man that helped bring that life into the world certainly was.

The bottom line is that, while modern women are increasingly-convinced of the idealistic world where men and women are effectively the same thing, in both responsibilities and abilities, it seems to be a few women and a majority of men that are aware of the cold, harsh reality: they are NOT the same. The law says they are equal, because they are both autonomous beings that can make rational, informed decisions, but realistically they are not interchangeable and we shouldn't pretend like they are.

Anonymous · Answer

This literally makes no sense outside of sexist delusion. In fact, in my family women have waaaaay more responsibilities. Or I should say they actually own up to their responsibilities.

If you told my mom this she would laugh hysterically. Like many women, her life has been nothing but responsibility. She had to take responsibility and graduate high school unlike all her siblings, she took responsibility for her education and career and got a college degree, masters, and a well paying government job with a pension. She took responsibility when she got pregnant and became a working mother while getting the masters to help her get the higher paying job so she could give me a better life. She has taken up way more additional responsibilities than she should helping out our family members. My mom has known nothing but responsibility, to the point that she feels like she has missed out on enjoying life in many ways and she is one of millions of women with the same story.

You'd have to live under a rock to believe women dont have responsibilities. Everyone has both responsibilities and choices. I am the only one responsible for my life. My life is definitely easier compared to my mom's life growing up (poverty), but my own life is filled with responsibilities. If I didn't handle my responsibilities I wouldn't have achieved any of the things that I have in life and I wouldn't be headed anywhere new either.

OldArmyDog · Answer

It is probably my age but as for dating and going out,..., you'd be hard pressed to find a Female in my are of South Carolina that would "choose" to pay the bill! LOL!!! Males fall into the "payer all too easily these days, we are from a time when Females EXPECTED the Males to pay, "courting", open doors, pull out a chair, Stand up when Females entered the room or to the table, etc. If I invite, I pay- if they invite and make all these plans,..., they are going to pay, it's their deal,, they wanted to go out. Serious relationships are another matter, but only to a point, When I was married my ex would take ME out and it was very liberating to have someone you love just treat you- Males need that too! ( and tho we are not together, we are still good friends) Casual dates tho- I feel that one who invites should be the happy host/hostess. And yes I have invited gals out, happily paid the bill and yet never heard from them again since they waited for that next call from you. SO am I shallow for this way of thinking or are the gals for waiting for it to be all on the Male again- if not they won't bother. In other facets of folks' lives, I believe both have the same ability to choose/decide/ work, places where to live, everyday life decisions, etc. but the in the dating arena, old ways seem to be a live and will in my area at least- sorry to say.

Robertcw · Answer

You can opt-out of this. I am doing that.

I am bucking social exceptions in every domain and am only doing things I want to do.

I ignore critics of my choices and continue onwards with my vision. This is very unconventional , but doing this eliminates traditions including the one where men aren't allowed to not have responsibilities. People notice too.

And most will make your life more difficult out of resentment, but there's only one way to maximize your quality of life and as far as I can tell this is the only way.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Yes the greater burden of responsibility in most cases does lay with men (more often then not), its also true that women have far more options then men do (women choose to work or not, men do not. Women choose whether or not to go into the military, for the overwhelming majority of history men did not. Women choose to keep their children or not, men have no choice, if a man does wrong he is severely and unapologetically punished for it, women are rarely punished for wrong doing and even then it is done begrudgingly and with all the excuses in the world for their actions, etc.).

Anonymous · Answer

Correct, mostly. Women have responsibilities if they choose to. Men have responsibilities if they want to have any life at all. Essentially, men have only one path to success in life, and that is to have a stable, lucrative career. Women can choose to have a serious career if they want, or they can marry a man to take care of the serious stuff and just be a mom or "follow their heart" and have an easy or fun career without worrying about having to earn a lot of money, which many, many women do.

So yeah, women absolutely have choices men don't have.

Anonymous · Answer

It's an oversimplification, but it's quite true in a lot of ways.

Men are expected to be breadwinners, and have little or no say whether or not they want to be parents, since birth control is the responsibility of women. But women have a free choice whether or not they want to be mothers, since the guy has to pay child support regardless. They also get to choose if they want to stay at home or work, and the man has to find a way to make it work.

Browneye57 · Answer

Didn't you post something similar earlier? You're on FIRE!! This goes along with... the burden of performance is on the man. He is responsible for EVERYTHING. If you fail, she'll bail. Guaranteed.

emmily2396 · Answer

So your mom didn't have the responsability to feed you, change your diapers, help you do your homework, etc? Obly your dad raised you? That was just an example.

Pinay_ako · Answer

This is so sexist. We all have responsibilities and choices. But it is all up to us to be responsible and choose the right choices to make it out alive

Киттйлинк · Answer

Nope. We all have choices, and we all have responsibilities... it is our choice to determine if we take those responsibilities or face consequences.

Only vegetables regardless of sex, have no choices or responsibilities.. and that is sad.

Lightning8 · Answer

I think there is something to be said for the fact that it's more acceptable for a man to have more responsibilities compared to a woman, than for a woman to have more responsibilities compared to a man.

That's just societal, but women also expect their mate to be either equal to or better than them in competence. So when it comes to at least the necessities in the relationship, it's usually more on the guy.

LazyAlex · Answer

Women have responsibilities, men have responsibilities. Men probably have less choices though because they're expected more of, for bringing money and supporting the family and what not. The question is quite vague though 😂 Women still have lots of responsibilities too, everyone does.

BeMuse · Answer

You have choices in dating as a man, you just have to be willing to make those choices and walk away when you’re not getting what you want. In order to negotiate a better position you need to have other options and be willing to stand for what you want and risk walking away. It’s like negotiating a new job salary by pulling multiple companies into a bidding war. If you have value people will be flexible to your demands if someone else might snatch you up.

Anonymous · Answer

I have a responsibility to feed myself, pay my bills, feed my cat and her to the vet. If you're a functioning adult, you have responsibilities. If I chose not to do this stuff I'd be homeless and broke, no is gonna "take care" of me.

ForteExe · Answer

I'd say both men and women have responsibilities and choices, however men's choices are certainly more limited than women's. That said, women are under much higher pressure to commit to their life choices at an earlier age than men so it's hard to compare the two. I get what you're driving at but I don't think you've worded this properly to convey the question you're trying to ask.

Anonymous · Answer

Very complex question when considering the world that ranges everywhere from rich trust fund boys becoming presidents to poor little boys forced to become soldiers and rich women “following their passion” to travel and collect pottery or whatever to poor little girls being sold into marriage at age 12. Etc.

XxXLuna_StarXxX · Answer

In my opinion, they both equally have responsibilities and choices. Of course they’re adults. Adults have responsibilities and choices to live their lives. Without choices, there’d be no responsibilities and without responsibilities, there’d be no choices

Spawnface · Answer

Its only sexist to point out flaws in a woman. But society is a male dominated patriarchy which all men are scrupulously invested in oppressing women for the petty reason of maintaining manhood.

Really, screaming banshees should be considered invalidated the second the go full retard. Nuerotic screaming is childish by the way.

Anonymous · Answer

When it comes to getting pregnant it's 100% percent true. When a women doesn't want a child, she has a get out of jail free card (abortion), when a guys doesn't want a child, tough shit, he's forced to pay child support, even if the child isn't his. When he fails to pay child support for a child he's doesn't/didn't want he's a dead beat father, when a women aborts a child she didn't/doesn't want she's praised.

Clo917 · Answer

No. Every functioning adult, whether they're male or female, has responsibilities.

Anonymous · Answer

Well take a look at certain parts of the world where military service is mandatory or forced for men, even here in the USA men are required by law to enlist for the draft. For women in all that it is strictly optional.

men not only have responsibilities but sometimes they have no choice at all.

The girls here saying otherwise have no idea what they have compared to men what they have to do.

SkipStop · Answer

Not really. Both have these, but women have more choices. They got more freedom. But they still have responsibilities.

100lbguy · Answer

I'm quite sad of so many guys agreeing this shit, Margret Thatcher was a British PM and she took many responsibilities and change UK in a lot of way, there are female CEOs, why does the gender have to depend on the person's skills. Plus to the guys who are agreeing this shit, doesn't mean women don't have responsibilities of their children, so they could easily leave them then.

Hrithik1994 · Answer

No i dont agree at all every person has certain responsibilities ans certain choices in life irrespective of the gender... A girl and a boy both have to choose their career theri life partner and in the same way it is the responsibility of both guy and a girl to take care of their family their kids... their pains...

Unit1 · Answer

Pretty much. Make men great again. Let us rally our brothers and resurrect the patriarchy to establish equality again. /s

Anonymous · Answer

"responsibility" & "choice" is SO vague that anyone who agreed is stupidly only thinking of few (out of many) scenarios of a lifetime.
Everyone, while differently, has had both choices to make and responsibilities to take on at points in their lives.

dantetheexplorer · Answer

I think there's a specific context for when these words are often used. Judging by the response you have received, some people might not be aware of the context, and subsequently its implications.

Pamina · Answer

Not if that means that men have no choice and women no responsibilities.

AmyLuv · Answer

We have the same kind of responsibilities, just like men have the same kind of choices.

Kinsey · Answer

Disagree. Everybody has responsibilities and choices in life.

_lauren_ · Answer

Lmao, are we going to play like we dont have history books that talk about the changing lives of males over decades but dont mention women doing anything other than domestic work until the 1910s

NormaTavish · Answer

No that's just silly. We all have responsibilities and everyone has different circumstances so making sweeping statements like that just doesn't make sense.

Kaneki05 · Answer

No is to short for answer on this according to this website but the answet is cleary just a no and anyone who don't get why or say's yes are not very bright.

Rei02 · Answer

You can choose to take or not a responsability. And at the same time you must accept and take responsability of your own choices.

Poormanscomedian · Answer

yes , two sets of standards. Men don't have the options afforded women. Women can make more mistakes, and get by with more.

NicolaD · Answer

Disagree - Responsibilities and choices are in everyone’s remit irrespective of sex

lili123172 · Answer

Disagree--Everyone have options in life and responsibilites. It makes no sense as to have one particular gender the option to have responsibilities and the other not. We all have responsibilities wether we want it or not

Aynsof · Answer

Men have responsibilities and choices Women have responsibilities and choices

chunlilovesvega · Answer

Men have to deal with so much hardships in order to survive -- just because they are superior and they have penis

bente2 · Answer

Ok then what responsibilities do men have that women don’t?

BlahBlehBluh · Answer

This question needs more context, some explanation for what's drove you to ask it.

Massageman · Answer

We all have both responsibilities and choices. Sometimes our choices may change our responsibilities.

stevemeh · Answer

If inchoose tonhave less resposibilities then that would be great. I have no choices in whatsoever.

Juxtapose · Answer

My roommate is female and pays her side of the rent and bills, so i'm calling bullshit.

whocares22 · Answer

Only when it comes down to an accidental pregnancy.

Il_Marduk · Answer

I disagree. I think that All of us, male and female, have responsibilities and choises. :)

YHL6965 · Answer

Not entirely true but I understand why it can feel that way.

Katerina_Belle · Answer

Please mansplain this, I’m intrigued...

Probitatis · Answer

Surely both have... well... both ! We ALL have responsibilities and choices.

WhoDatGuy · Answer

It's my responsibility to avoid commitment.

Anonymous · Answer

Agreed. women have opportunities. But women are more responsible than guys in general

taleswapper · Answer

It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

HarleyQuinnirl · Answer

Both sexes have responsibilities and choices.

KLTheErudite7229 · Answer

Both genders have responsibilities and choices.

Levin · Answer

Can you elaborate a little?

Pinky_what_why · Answer

lol, tbh it should be the same you think

SweetEvilKitty · Answer

We all have responsibilities and choices.

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