That dress is a bit OTT, but she has the confidence and the body to pull it off! Good on her.
As someone else said, Vietnam is a communist country so although she may not be in Vietnam, she's representing the country and I guess the Vietnamese are still held accountable to their laws, especially famous models. I'm sure she was aware of these laws - maybe she did it because she wants to make a statement and bring people's attention to the ridiculous laws of other countries that control what women can wear. It seems she went all out in doing so.
I've just looked up about it a bit more and it seems they do have a dress code that includes not being half naked. However, if she's doing that in another country and not on Vietnam soil, I don't think it should be their concern.
I've seen way more scandalous things on US red carpets, however, if a country or company is sending you to represent their brand, as in, you are contractually there, and there are laws or clauses in your contract that say you must be dressed a certain way regardless if you are in Vietnam in this case, or not, then they have the right to fine her. If there is no law on their books that says in Vietnam AND any where you go in the world you must be dressed like X or if she is there completely of her own volition, then no fine.
Well, if the rules of this event dictate a certain clothing style or restriction, then she might’ve broken this rule. Likewise, she seems to have worn a very revealing dress, so it might actually break some of Vietnam’s laws. Personally, I wouldn’t care or have any issue with her wearing this if I were at this event. This is just my personal opinion though.
No, I mean if she's in Cannes then I don't see why she should be held to the laws of another country (i. e. Vietnam), but then I don't know a great deal about Vietnamese law.
Because she is vietnamese and vietnam is currently a "Unitary Marxist-leninist one-party socialist republic", aka communist, according to wikipedia. They see her as a representative of their country so if she doesn't represent them the way the government wants then the government will punish her.
I disagree with her so-called 'dress' outfit (which attracts the wrong type of attention from civilized people who know the right way to react & from animistic wolves who'll do God knows what if opportunity strikes), considering its utter lack of modesty, elegance, and class. If she was supposed to represent the Vietnamese people (who are generally far more conservative), I would understand Hanoi's move to fine her.
But I'm a Libertarian and find repulsive the idea of a big government with jurisdiction over its citizens' clothing-choices outside its borders. (Individual Vietnamese and/or Vietnamese communities will have to devise their own way of penalizing her for misrepresenting them.) I'm a dual-citizen of the U. S. & the Philippines, but I'm outside Manila's laws outside PH borders, until I enter a PH embassy/consulate.
But, de-facto laws & jurisdictions do vary among governments, no matter where I am (inside or outside U. S. borders), this U. S. citizen will be subject to Washington's laws on its worldwide income-tax, annual bank-account reporting-mandates, antichild-prostition penalties, and 'War on Terror' allowances (for drone-strike, indefinite-detention, surveillance, etc.). If the 'free' & 'democratic' Washington allows for that, should I be surprised at socialist Hanoi's jurisdiction outside its borders?
If she breaks a law in Vietnam, being a Vietnamese citizen, then of course she should be fined.
Anyone going against the laws of a country should be fined or imprisoned according to the catalog of punishments for the offense committed.
However, since she did not commit a reprehensible crime in the country where she appeared in indecent attire (France), then I wonder if it is relevant to be punished in a country other than the one where the crime was committed.
Unless the laws specifically state that any crime that would be punishable in the country of citizenship would also be punishable, even if committed outside the country of citizenship.
Im sorry of course she should , she always remains Vietnamese and this is not a porn shoot , the attire is completely inappropriate , and she should be fined , this is exactly what she was hoping would happen anyhow , I wouldn't know nor care who she is , but I know now. I live in Thailand , but it does not mean I can follow Thai " age of consent " rules for example , you bring with you your Countries' law , and that's as it should be. Just because something may be passed over in Cannes , you are a representative of your own Nation. She achieved what she hoped , but completely inappropriate way to do it.
Just one other thing , loose any Western view its simply note relevant. Asia is Asia , we like it how it is , there are too many loud USA views here already , plus general European views , it doesn't matter , you carry your own flag. Vietnam can do as it sees fit , just as Thailand , different cultures , and you do not dress in this manner , its simple.
Let the governments fight over the fine and jurisdiction.
Let's look at the bigger picture, of which this is just a symptom. There are SO. MANY. of these "Red carpet" events - this award, that award, this festival, that fund raiser, etc., ad nauseum, that the mind just goes numb after awhile. Someone ears a dress that shows 80% of their body. The next star shows 81%, and so on. Each has to one up the previous.
But are they really one-upping each other? Or maybe just showing that they must keep going to further and further extremes just to get "noticed" in our increasingly OTT society?
It's quite generous calling that ugly piece of lingerie a dress. I don't agree with the fine, though. If someone wants to dress like garbage for attention, it's their choice. But I would support the organizers at Cannes if they were to choose to stop her at the door and not let her in until she changes into something more fitting for the occasion.
She isn't in her country but i understand that in some Asian countries you could be in trouble for how you represent your country and its a big no no, but then again when are Asian countries not right in the head? (Im Asian and trust me, i know my people are crazy)
International law states that you are subject to the laws of the country you're in, not the country you're a citizen of. So by international law, seeing as this is not illegal in France, she's not breaking any laws and can therefore not be fined. End of the story. It doesn't matter what her function is or whether people find it inappropriate. It also does not matter what kind of government her home country has, she still isn't subject to their laws while in France.
You think the government of Vietnam cares about International Law when it comes to one of their own slaves? Ha!
You think China cares? China has few prisons as they just take people out to a ditch and put a bullet in their brain. The Vietnamese are probably not as kind.
@MrOracle The fuck does China have to do with this? The question is "do you agree she should be fined" and my answer is no, because no one should be fined when they didn't break a law.
I'm guessing it's not that easy for the Vietnamese government to fine her either, they gotta find some loophole first. The more media attention this receives, the harder it becomes to fine her. Vietnam isn't north korea; they wish to have good relationships with other countries.
Vietnam, like China, wants the economic advantages of capitalism, but otherwise wants to remain a totalitarian state, and while they are a bit more sensitive about how they treat foreigners, they have few qualms about severely punishing their own people.
It might not be the PRK, but it's not that far from it either.
Yeah, and the same guy who publicly announced that they'd fine her/humiliated her also definitely jacked off to her photos. Fucking hypocrisy. Since when can a country rule any person's life to that extreme? Maybe Vietnam should focus on their economy that can't lift its ass off into the attention of any superpower much less be a prominent trade/tourism partner instead of focusing on what someone wore in another country entirely.
This is rich, the government officials all go to bordellos and they want to fine someone that dresses a little showy? Probably because they will never get a piece of her and they are butt hurt.
People dont get the point here, all being white knight shit. She is supposed to represent her country which is pretty conservative, so I think yes she should be fined for being an absolute idiot, not for her horrible slutty clothing style, but for not thinking farther than her nose.
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she wore that dress with her ass hanging out because it's comfortable. She didn't expect anyone to look and notice it. lol I can't even say that with a straight face. Anyone wanna admit girls do shit like this for the attention yet? :D Also, she should be subject to the laws of the country she's in when she does stuff like this. Not be penalized by her home country. And people bitch about the USA being so bad and controlling. haha. We let the country the "offense" happened in decide if there should be punishment or not.
There's nothing more fun than going out with your ass on display. I love it. I remember going to the mall in the sheerest little white stretchy shorts and just getting a huge rush from all the gentlemen staring at me like I was their next meal. One guy followed me all the way to the parking lot. I just looked over my shoulder at at him and laughed.
I dont think a country should be allowed to enforce laws on citizens when they are outside of that country. She's an attractive woman and if that's what she wanted to wear why shouldn't she? I love lady gaga but she went to the Grammys dressed in meat so hey to each their own.
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Interestingly, many people seem to think she's dressed 'normally'. Maybe for the bedroom or this kind of events...
It's not my place to say if she should be fined by her government or not. In Europe, she probably wouldn't be, but she is also far from being dressed in a decent way. Just another girl crying for attention.
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I guess it goes down to the fact if she was well aware of how her government works. If she knew she could get in trouble in some way, shape, or form despite being in a different country then that's on her for getting fined. Personally, I don't agree with a government having that kind of control over its citizens but I also don't live in a country that would fine someone for how they dressed in another country.
How the hell would it be any of their business? Sounds like they just want an excuse to take money from a presumably wealthy individual. The only ones that should have a right to complain are citizens and the local government.
If it is the last of her country and if that law is applied equally and in the same way to every citizen of Vietnam, then of course a fine would be fair and appropriate.
Other societies have other laws and if she breaks the law of her society, she should face the law of her society, cause nobody forced her to break the law. It was her decision wasn't it?
That's not a dress... it's a swimsuit with beads that act like a curtain. I think she should be fined for bad taste. Obviously her intent was to shock, which she accomplished. Too bad because she's a stunning woman... with really bad taste in formal attire.
I ain't a Vietnamese citizen. And while I disagree with her style choice, I would still say that in America she has the right to wear what she wants. But she is a citizen of a different nation.
Wearing such a thing outside of one's bedroom is quite tasteless but I don't think she should be fined for it. I mean who are these people anyways, the fashion police?
She isn’t in Vietnam so the laws of Vietnam are not valid there. It would make absolutely no sense for them to fine her, if they did that they might as well try to fine almost every single woman who attended the MET.
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They're Communists. What do you expect? If the Left gets into power anywhere, liberalism becomes puritanism. My answer? No nip?, no lip? No fine. Slender Asians can get away with under-dressing.
Vietnam is pissed she represented her country that way. But she wasn’t in Vietnam when she did it.
She can make the decision to leave her country and give them the middle finger. But if she stays then she has to deal with the consequences. It’s not any foreigners right to tell them otherwise.
2 people who disliked this wants girls to get raped. Yah, that's what becomes a more likely eventuality when you dress like this. No, I am not one of those men, but I will warn you how to remain safe around them
@_Jay_ yeah, I feel like I should be able to walk into these events naked. It's my right to wear what I want and that includes nothing! Everytime I get thrown out of a resteraunt I should be able to sue the resteraunt for taking away my right to express myself! #UnbanPublicNudity
@_Jay_ no but logically according to your argument we have to allow nudity. Further, if we are arguing about dress codes then we need to talk about how close to nudity we can get, so nudity is not okay? What about wearing nothing pieces of tape to cover your junk? What about wearing just underwear? Wearing a tanktop that is too big so that you "accidently" flash the camera several times? When does it become inappropriate or overly sexual?
@_Jay_ I can't wait to see men at the emmies dressed like this woman then.
Oh, and one more thing. If you think any type of clothing should be acceptable, what about wearing a shirt that has scantilly dressed women printed onto it? What about wearing said shirt on a public interview? Because honestly, if you are entitled to wear whatever you want then Matt Taylor deserves a lot of apologies from feminists.
I think he shouldn't have been judged because if a woman is allowed to wear what she wants to, then so is a man. What kind of stupid question is that? Yea everyone is allowed to wear what they want to. Of course i would prefer if people didn't came to my funeral in bikinis but you do you
It's a stupid question from history since it was a real event. He is a scientist, but got completely mocked and shamed because he wore the wrong thing and it pissed off feminists. I'm sorry for assuming you were like these feminists, but, in my opinion, the best way to understand what you thought was for me to bring up things that might offend you and see how you react.
To that end, I assume you also think MAGA hats should be legal? Same with clothes that have anti-abortion, anti-feminist slogans, or even sexist slogans?
acknowledging that a woman is sexy or beautiful in a sophisticated way is perfectly fine. Jerking off, oggling, and treating only the women you deem as having a lot of sex appeal like fleshlights is another thing. Just because one woman is particularly more sexually attractive to you than another doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the same amount of respect as long as she acts appropriately. who cares what she wears at this point.
Right back at you then, when women masturbate, oggle ar men, or desire sex with a high sex appeal man, it is wrong. Womem should be more sophisticated with how they lool at men. Just because one guy who hit on you was a model and the other was an unnattractive loser doesn't mean you can get offended. The fat and ugly men deserve as much respect as the hot ones, so you MUST turn down ugly guys in a respectable way.
I guess it's not the matter of a Vietnamese government. But if she violated the dress code of Cannes Festival the organizers of this festival are allowed to punish her
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No she should not, on that same token though, she's from Vietnam.. which is a communist, leftist marxists one party government.. basically everything that the left here in the states wants.. they will punish her because they will see her as a representative of their government. This is what happens when that kind of government exists.
No that's so silly if they do, she looks stunning and it's not like she was actually showing off any extreme intimate areas, i see girls dressed in less down at the pub before
@Jamie05rhs There is a time and place for everything. You dont want wear a dress like that to a public venue. Where there are photographers everywhere. You wouldn't wear a tank-top and boxers to church, and you wouldn't wear a suit to sleep
@Jamie05rhs Haha exactly man! To me its a matter of principle. Yeah this woman looks super sexy and that dress looks hot as fuck on her. But thats someones daughter/sister. So I try and apply this principle to every female. I get where you are coming from though.
@Jamie05rhs I miss being a libertarian, but once you realize they really can't take a stand against anything, it makes you feel despair. Like they let sexual deviance slide, they let abuse of workers slide because the "free Market" , they basically say anything goes. That sounds great at first, but the consequences suck!
You end up with a bunch of whores and people who care only about money.
No she looks fine no one should be fined for not wearing clothes anywhere it's a load of rubbish you should be able to walk around naked if you so wish
Of course not, people should be free. But we still live in a world that does not believe in freedom. Instead we believe the government should control how we dress. Nice.
Holy shit... She is absolutely gorgeous. The Vietnam government should encourage her instead of fine her. She is a good example of their women and could boost tourism profits. I thought Asians were supposed to be smart...
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No. What happened to feminist who wanted women to have the right to do as they please w their own bodies? Only ones complaining are probably the nasty looking women.
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As a society we need to stop letting women parade themselves around almost naked for cheap sexual attention. Men dress with dignity, women shouldn't be exempt.
So you want the government to step in and control how people dress? When does it stop for you people? Stupid liberals everywhere who think they aren’t stupid liberals but really you’re just the same as them.
@kaazsz They control how men dress. I can't walk around with my cock out. Why do you believe women should have a right to? I am far from a stupid liberal, and your schoolyard shaming tactics just show your maturity level. Expecting women to live up to the same standards as men, isn't wrong. It's "equality".
It is not the government’s job to regulate how we dress! This is absurd! You people are ridiculous. Everyone out there wants a dictatorship. Oh no! A scantily clad woman! Someone call the government!
It sickens me to be honest. You think your values are so great, that they must be enforced by violence. We need guys with guns to make sure that women don’t show too much titty. Nice.
@Kaazsz (Your 1st ASSumption) You are right, it's not the government's job. It's societies. Which is why I said in my comment... "As a society"
(Your 2nd ASSumption, which you have done twice) You keep trying to shame me with petty leftist attacks. I am far from leftist, and although the standpoint of the speaker is irrelevant to the topic, you inject it because it's your only way of attempting to validate your nonsense assumptions.
(Your 3rd ASSumption) People want a dictatorship. No one said anything about dictatorships, expecting women to live up to the same standards as males, is not a dictatorship, it's simple equality. I am sure you would have an issue with someone exposing their cock to your child, and that should equally go for someone exposing their vagina around children.
(Your 4th ASSumption)... This should be enforced by violence. At NO POINT did anyone say anything about violence or enforcing shit with guns.
You need to read before you respond and you need to stop making up shit in your head to argue against. If you can't argue what I actually said, then don't bother arguing at all.
As long as you’re not trying to use the government, aka guns and violence, fines and imprisonment, to punish people for not following things that society should be handling, then I am happy.
Because she is seen by the government as a representative of vietnam since she is a popular model. If she represents them poorly then they will see it as her committing a crime against the government.
All the free publicity she is getting from talk of a fine is worth a lot more than the fine itself. Well done Vietnam for being her agent and only taking a small slice of Im sure very large pie
@Amara_, so fucking what? The Vietnamese government is a tyranny that wants to control every aspect of life. If they don't like the clothes, they can JUST NOT LOOK. A fine? That's only what inferior, shit-hole countries do.
I do not think communists hate women, but I guess USSR was one of the first to have women soldiers, so maybe they do hate women. Regardless this is not about her being a woman but rather about her misrepresenting their country and promoting what they see as bad kinds of behaviour.
@devilman666, so, you're saying that the totalitarian pukes who run Viet Nam are a pack of lousy tyrants who can't handle a woman being comfortable with her own body.
@Herelbe I'm saying that the totalitarian asswipes who run vietnam are lousy tyrants who can't handle women publicly being comfortable with her own body or wearing anything they deem inappropriate. In their minds her actions reflect onto them and thus they can hold her accountable if she ruins their image.
They allow things like this in the privacy of your own house and probably ignore many dress code violation in their own country, but once you are being watched by the entire world it is a little different. For example, china and vietnam both have religion even though it is banned. They allow these things, just not publically in a way that can challenge the government.
@devilman666, I don't give a fuck how they see it, any more than I give a fuck how Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, etc. saw how Germany was supposed to be run.
@JustWorthlessMe, they would, SO FUCKING WHAT? It is possible for uptight, authoritarian leftists AND uptight, authoritarian rightists to BOTH BE WRONG! Any non-moron understands that. You obviously don't.
To be clear, I wasn't saying you had to give a fuck about what they though/think, I'm merely pointing out that that is the communist agenda, to control the image of things, they portrayed stalin as a god, every other leader as at least a hero of the people, the communist party enforces what you are allowed to think about the communist party and the communist party restricts how you are allowed represent the communist party. Anything that challenges the party/government or the image of the party/government is destroyed and anyone who does so is punished. A fine is nothing, under stalin she would be in the gulag for making the communist party look like it lacked modesty.
That said if this didn't challenge their image then they would likely let it go. If it was a small event in vietnam that didn't get much attention then they would likely not fine her, but since it is on a worldwide stage it is more important to them. Like I said, they allow sects of religion as long as the religions dont threaten the governments power, which is why even though they banned religion you will find religious statistics about the country on wikipedia 12% buddhist in vietnam and 16% in china being the highest percentages of religious groups in these two athiest countries. Of course this is according to wikipedia, but you can find similar data all over the internet.
This just comes back to how important image and portrayal is to them. If it isn't a big enough event to cause their image harm then they don't care. I doubt they actually care that much about her wearing something like that, they are simply following their dogma of protecting the parties image at all costs.
She is vietnamese though, as they see it she is a representative of them. Also, they are communist, wikipedia labels them a "unitary Marxist-Lenninist one-party socialist republic".
Yeah but she's a fashion model. It's not like she's there as an ambassador or in any official capacity to represent Vietnam. I understand they might feel that it's an embarrassment to the country but still, they're being ridiculous.
I agree, that is why I pointed out that they are communist. Do I need to point out the ridiculous things stalin did? Because if so then I will stary with the great purge, it is ridiculous to kill and imprison hundreds of thousands of your own people.
I think it is relevant to this situation since the USSR helped establish communism in vietnam and it shows the ridiculous lengths that communists will go to in order to have full control. Taking away rights is just the communist way.
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