Random reflection: Have you noticed how really every short guy you meet always know some form of martial art like karate or jujustu?

[White-American89]

I'm pretty tall and I'm into martial arts. A lot of martial arts can even the odds for short guys fighting bigger stronger men. Aggressive bullying assholes tend to pick a fight with short guys because they see them as weak and an easy target that they can defeat and are reluctant to pick a fight with someone bigger than themselves.
I was at a bacholer party once where this large steroid freak with roid rage and a need to compensate for his baby dick decided to harrass and pick a fights with a lot of guy, he started on this one short Thai guy who tried to be polite and was willing to overlook the insults but that wasn't enough for hulk Hogan, he took a swing at the Thai guy who block the punch by covering his head and then proceeded to beat the shit out of captain America, put him in hospital. Though the white Ronnie Coleman was the groom's brother it was very satisfying watching him get the shit kicked out of him by a guy who turned out to be an amateur muay Thai fighter in Atlantic city in for some kick boxing tournament or demonstration.
I've never really seen martial artists short or tall picking fights but I have seen some short guys have A Napolean complex, I know a guy like this he compensates for being short by body building. I've also seen a lot average height guys who just like starting shit, fights can happen whether you want to be in one or not that's why many practice martial arts because it can give you an edge to avoid being seriously hurt and defend yourself.

[englisc]

I'm a short guy into powerlifting and martial arts - MMA, muay thai, boxing.

In school when you're a short guy people see you as an easy target for mockery and bullying. This then goes one of two ways:
1) you become less confident, more afraid, more withdrawn, and you allow it to affect you negatively
2) you come up with ways to deal with it instead, basically learning how to stand up for yourself

A lot of people will say "haha short man syndrome/napoleon complex". I don't care that much about this, but at the same time I think that's a bit of an asshole thing to say. Sure, if the guy is behaving like an absolute dickhead then maybe it's well-deserved. But otherwise why would you insult the guy for doing things to improve himself, most likely because he's been bullied and mocked? That's like mocking somebody who is overweight for going to the gym to lose weight. "Haha fatty is just training because he/she is insecure".

What do these people want, for those people to stay in the shitty position they're in? Never to better themselves? Then they can't win either way.

Sorry for the rant, those kinds of assholes just annoy me.

Anyway yeah, it's mostly just the way they deal with being bullied and targeted. In the situation with the thai guy and the roid head, the thai guy was probably pretty chilled right? And the roid head was the insecure dickhead.

[White-American89]

Agreed those bullies helped you become a better person

[Browneye57]

They have to - they are the bully's target, always.
I was the proverbial 98lb weakling in my early teen years. I actually had a kid at the bus stop knock me down to the ground and hold me there 'till I took a puff of his cigarette. We couldn't have been more than 12 or 13, 8th grade I think..
I started lifting weights as a sophomore, training with the football players. They were twice my size. But you know, I got strong. Strong like bull. And thumped a few of those bully types. But I felt bad, it just wan't a match. By my mid-20's I was becoming a championship body builder, even at 165lbs. That was the era of Schwarzenegger and Ferigno. I didn't take shit from nobody.

So yeah, short guys have a point to prove. But really, the only ones even the slightest bit concerned about their height, or lack thereof, is... wait for it... THEM! Most have some kind of napolean complex, or a chip on their shoulder. And really, there are plenty of women that would date them, be interested, but it's in spite of their height not because of it. Oh well, they'll never get it.

[Browneye57]

Oh, and my dad was a short-shit, 5-8, 155 lbs. His dad got so tired of him getting beat up at school he took him down to the local boxing ring and got him lessons. He became quite the feather weight boxer. Even in his forties he was lightening fast. And didn't take shit from nobody. He would always say, "The bigger they are the harder they fall." He was always getting into some kind of scrap, he was lucky he didn't get charged with assault. Knocked out more than a few guys, WAY bigger guys. One punch and they were knocked out cold.
Funny, he refused to spank his children. Mom had to be the disciplinarian. ;)

[White-American89]

That kinda reminds me of my uncle he was the same. He was a country kid that grew up half starving around a shithole town, spent his teens robbing and street fighting the older kids and even older men. He spent a lot of time working around farms and wrestled in school so was strong as a bull. He beat the crap out of a few of the local boxers and a black belt karate guy that challenged him, apparently the boxers didn't know what to do when the gloves and headgear came off and the karate guy wasn't expecting to be punched in the face. The only time I saw him fight was with this one big guy who was a prision guard and liked to throw his weight around, my uncle then about 40 was still quick and hit hard, he just side stepped the guy as he charged putting a left hook into his face followed by a straight right and down the big asshole went, as he tried to get up my uncle broke his arm with a stomp.
Anyway my uncle had a reputation as a street fighter and he was always tortured for years by drunk assholes and so called tough guys when he was out.
My uncle was the same except nobody was allowed to spank his kids not even his wife.

[GraveDoll]

Yes and yes.

it like they have to go out their way to prove they are manly or something. The lift the hardest at the gym too. I pissed one off because I had called it tumbling and he was like no martial arts I was like my bad.

Napolean complex indeed. I find many to be angry.
The first time I was called a bitch was by a short guy because I told him no thank you. The main reason why I dont date them. It always a problem with my heels etc. Im 5'8 and if im ok with my height and have no shame in being who I am and told him he should do the same.

ETA
I asked my co-worker: and all of them agree with you. She said most do martial arts and I guess I never really notice.

[Bananaman177]

Everybody treats them like shit, that's why they act like shit.

If everybody treated you like shit, you probably wouldn't be pleasant company either.

[GraveDoll]

@Bananaman177

I dont treat them like shit.

I acknowledge them as people but sheesh. Do you seriously think it was always easy being a tall girl? It wasn't and I still get a comment here or there.

[Bananaman177]

A comment here or there?

How many times did you get the fucking shit beat out of you by a whole group of your peers because you were a tall girl? How many times have you been treated like a creep and a pedophile and a rapist for just looking at or God forbid SMILING at a boy, as a tall girl?

You have no idea what short guys go through every single day, all day long, from almost every single person they encounter their whole lives, and you honestly expect them to be normal, or have social skills? Fuck, HOW?

Every girl can always point to one short guy that they know or have seen or have heard about who has a good life and can find love and make friends normally, and they always want to point to that guy.

I wish someone would point out to them the millions and millions of other short guys who aren't doing so hot. There's a reason men's chances of committing suicide go up 5% for every inch below average height they are.

They're not hanging themselves in their closets for their mother to find their body because they got a few comments here and there. Can you understand that?

[JHAYES317]

Why wouldn’t they be pissed if you wouldn’t date them because they are short?

[Britantic]

Short Man Syndrome
When some short guys think they need to act tough to make up for their short stature. They may also try extra hard to get hold of any women.
"Paul is a little guy with a big ego. He's 5 foot 4 but has biceps the size of boulders. He also looks extra hard for girls on Snapchat or Instagram who he doesn't even know, to act like he can get a girl. Definition of Short Man Syndrome

[JHAYES317]

Well would you date a guy shorter than you? If not, then they are justified in this behavior

[OlderAndWiser]

At my age, guys are not engaging in physical fights. Most of us have outgrown the need to do that. The others are in prison.

I have seen short guys who are attorneys who have a little Napoleon complex. They are aggressive about almost everything and can be very difficult to work with in litigation.

[tenukitanuki]

Only dudes that fuck with me are testing and never push it. I agree that unnecessary aggression sucks; if it's intimate enough like your scene then I'm usually able to nullify it rq. I love my one boy's line "hey my man, that's unnecessary" he'd also give them a "hey... you don't need to be doing that, hm?" Just like that. Catch em like you're the adult and you'll put it to em.

I think the glare people naturally give tends to say it all. My dude's got that dead-eye African stare, looking inside you and that. My bloodline has like the opposite, that psychotic laser eye complete with sunken sockets, looking like you can see everything all the time (especially when you widen your eyes for any reason). I would do that in sales, keep them squinted then raise my brows and widen my eyes for inflection, like, "are you retarded enough to say no to this? I'm doing you this favor here. I'm your papa"

I actually got that from a fella that used it on my foster father on some 10 YR warranty. Point is a good menacing look that tells people you're not right is usually enough to have them cut the shit. The more measured and calm you remain only makes it that much more impactful if you bust a vessel and go APPESHIIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xc_YixFslA

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Haha I love your description of events.

In high school, I had a friend who was a short, scrawny guy who got bullied and picked on by other kids damn near every day. My friends and I kept it from happening when we were around, but apparently they got to him when we weren't there. At one point, it got so bad he started cutting on himself and eventually tried to commit suicide, failed, and dropped out of school.

Fast forward a few years. I saw him while I was visiting my parents after college and we decided to have lunch together. Apparently after high school, he decided he needed to overcome all this so he joined the Marines. He got absolutely ripped, went into Force Recon, joined some sort of hand-to-hand combat club that is basically Fight Club for Marines, got out and at that point was a semi-pro MMA fighter. He was like "I get to spend all day beating on dudes like the ones who bullied me in school". He's still a short little shit but he's also a killing machine. Literally.

[lernulo]

I don't see a short it, or at least it's a really bad generalization.

I know many short men who don't know martial arts, in fact I go to some disciplines, and I'm used to see men of all heights.

I don't know how it is in USA, but in Spain it isn't true

About which people I see on martial arts, I'm used to see strong women, and fans of noble fight.
From time to time, there is some guy (or girl) who comes to be the next Bruce Lee, but he goes out soon because it needs discipline sacrifice and regularity which goes out of the thinking of that type person.

About short syndrome, playing his cards is a good idea, the best one, in fact.

If you are short and have a hostile society around you, you must do something to survive, may be, read many books like Tyrion, learn a lot of social skills and use them in your favor like Becquio or you can learn martial arts, I don't see the relation between play your cards and short syndrome.
If someone can explain it to me.

[MackToday]

It seems to be some kind of product of human evolution. Being short doesn't make you weak and being tall doesn't make you strong. Somehow we've equated hight to physical power whether real or imagined. Height seems to be some sort of display like the coloring of certain birds.

[GiveMeAllTheCookies]

Not sure about martial arts, but many short men compensate with body building.

[White-American89]

Which makes them look shorter

[GiveMeAllTheCookies]

It does.
But I don't like body builder body too much anyways, but on taller men it looks more proportionate.

[Ephemera1]

This is true, martial arts not so much
OP she likes mho n cookies 👀

[GiveMeAllTheCookies]

@Ephemera1 I do like mho and cookies. 😎

[JHAYES317]

You do realize there are more short bodybuilders than tall right?

[Levin]

There was a short fat bald guy in one of my seminars.

Deceptive.

Low centre of gravity.

Tai Chi practitioner. Obviously, no one has any respect for that as a martial art. But it felt like being hit by a lump hammer. And he was aggressive as hell. Probably some kind of compensation for being tormented and mocked all his life. Chip on his shoulder.

Moral of the story. Don't pick on short rotund bald guys.

[Badballie]

Well you lot of martial arts can bring what you like, my 9 mm Glock, will kick all your dumb asses. Movie Harrison Ford quote. Don't bring knives etc to a gun fight.

[White-American89]

People don't wait for you to draw your gun before they punch you in the face.

[Badballie]

I don't wait, I have a permit to carry my gun in my shoulder holster, so try you luck.

[White-American89]

Try pull it when I knock you out.

[Badballie]

Dead man walking.

[White-American89]

Your gun will never make it out of your holster before I drop you, then I just pull out my revolver and shot you in the head and take your wallet.

[Sevenpointfive]

i don't think i've ever seen a tall martial artist.

[White-American89]

MMA and boxing are full of them.
You ever see how tall Dolph Luger is.

[Sevenpointfive]

while i've watched some mma i didn't see a whole lot of martial arts used. it's mostly grappling and about tapping people out so that got boring to me. i'm not familiar with dolph luger (dolph lundgren?).

[White-American89]

Big bloñde guy out of Rocky 4 and expenables. He was a european Karate champion.
MMA is martial arts. It's in the name Mixed Martial Arts. In you see those with different martial arts backgrounds employing various martial arts& martial arts techniques such as wrestling, boxing, karate, jujitsu, judo, pankration, taekondo, sambo, kick boxing, kung fu, muay thai etc.
Submission moves are part of Jujitsu/judo, wrestling and sambo. In real life if you didn't tap out real damage to your bones and muscles would be done.
https://youtu.be/LWE79K2Ii-s

[Sevenpointfive]

i liked the video. i saw some technique, but it's so offensive when martial arts was typically taught to be defensive. i suppose you still have to win though.

[White-American89]

The problem with a lot of martial arts is that there are often major flaws in the techniques when put into real world scenarios. MMA & Brazilian jujistsu at the start exposed a lot of it. Like there's a reason when in competition the best martial artists from stand up martial striking martial arts taekondo, karate, kung fu, kick boxing etc will generally lose when put in a ring with a muay thai fighter or Burmese boxer.

[Sevenpointfive]

yeah. i guess that's why you don't put an mma fighter up against a boxer in a boxing match. it doesn't work. the fighting is completely different as are the rules.

[White-American89]

stand up martial striking martial arts taekondo, karate, kung fu, kick boxing etc are nearly the same rules except for maybe knees, elbows and headbutts being allowed. For instance muay thai guys kick with the shins but karate guys and taekondo guys kick with the heel and front foot. Kick boxers& taekondo guys rely on elaborate combinations but muay thai guys kick the legs of an opponent so eventually the legs aren't able to kick and the opponent isn't able to stand, this happens in a lot of kick boxer or taekondo vs muay thai fights. Karate& Taekondo martial artists have the problem of light tap in training and competition and no head punches allowed which is fine in sport but when you take them to the street they don't work.
Depends on the boxer and the MMA guy, some boxers have an MMA background.

[Sevenpointfive]

so mayweather beat mcgregor in the boxing ring. if mcgregor gets a rematch in the octagon will he win?

[White-American89]

Switch the boxing gloves to MMA gloves and it's a whole other ball game.
https://youtu.be/H7FIw--9Hs4

[Sevenpointfive]

i think so too

[White-American89]

Mostly because as a boxer mayweather has only fought other boxers and has no idea how to defend against leg kicks and take downs. Even ex heavy weight champion boxer vitali klistkow has a history in MMA.
I watched a pretty intense match from ufc 2016 of two guys from different martial arts disciplines one guy had been a muay thai fighter and the other a Russian olympic boxer. They both had cross trained in the usual MMA disciplines. Basically they fought each other to a stand still. The boxer was able to defend against muay thai attacks though the leg kicks took a lot of power out of his punches and the muay thai guy wasn't able to knock him down. The fight finished a draw.
What you see in a lot of stand up martial arts now is cross training with other martial arts disciplines usually BJJ.

[Sevenpointfive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmrfwkDdirg

[Femdomina]

Yes I have, but most guys are short from my point of view, because I'm also pretty tall and into martial arts. All the guys in my Kung Fu class, and in Judo dojo, were shorter than me.

[Justacatlady]

This was less about the original question and more about you doing martial arts.
I’ve know quite a few shorter guys and none of them was into any type of this

[luvstoned4him]

My great grandfather was only 4'10 and everyone in the town feared him. So just because someone is short doesn't mean they are helpless.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well from what I've heard from short guys, people like to pick fights with them and screw with them so I guess it makes sense.

[Nadim171]

Not really... I don't know anyone that likes martial arts Exept me. Anyways, what martial arts do you suggest

[White-American89]

Russian Sambo. It's boxing, karate, wrestling and judo rolled into one. Muay Thai is pretty good too.
Boxing or wrestling is as good a martial art as any.

[DWD94]

Lol the same women on this thread shaming short men are probably the first to cry about 'muh body shaming'.

[ShadowofRegret]

I am short, and I train in the martisl arts.

However I do not do it because I am short, nor do I even have a "Napoleon complex", I do it because it is part of who God made me to be, it is a part of me as a person.

[GuidoThePizzaMaker]

All the short guys I know were athletes who tried super hard
They werent martial artists but they were strong and athletic.

[Twalli]

I like martial arts and I'm short, but I have always enjoyed some form of combat sports. Until I got a serious concussion in college I wrestled, just like I did in high school.

[Exterminatore]

I haven’t noticed that. I think martial arts is something everyone should do. Lots of benefits.

[MoneyBeets]

Ben Shapiro may sound smart but he doesn’t know dick about marital arts. And he’s about 4’10ft

[White-American89]

Do you know that for sure.

[MoneyBeets]

He’s about 3/4ths of a Joe Rohan

[MoneyBeets]

Joe Rogan*