
What notions make someone a Republican? What notions make some a Democrat? Are you Democrat or Republican, yourself?


Read each party's platform.
As far as I'm concerned, in order to be a "Republican" one must agree with the Republican Party's position on every single issue listed in its official platform. Ideologically speaking, this would be closest to neoconservatism. If there are a small number of positions you disagree with, but you still view the Republican Party favorably, that would just make you one of many various types of "conservatives" who votes Republican.
Likewise, in order to be a "Democrat" one must agree with the Democratic Party's position on every single issue listed in its official platform. Ideologically speaking, this would be closest to neoliberalism. If there are a small number of positions you disagree with, but you still view the Democratic Party favorably, that would just make you one of many various types of "liberals" who votes Democrat.
As for myself, I am firmly neither. However, I'm not an "independent" either. I am consistently an anarcho-capitalist, and I find both parties abhorrent. I find the Democratic Party irredeemable and antithetical to everything I believe in. By contrast there are a few positions with which I agree with the Republican platform on, but not enough to support the party in good conscience. There is also a handful of Republican politicians (such as Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Thomas Massie, and formerly Justin Amash) who I find tolerable, but they do not represent an established wing of the Republican Party, and are in fact frequently regarded as "outsiders" by most other Republican politicians.
Where can people find the official paltform for Republicans and Democrats so that people can check out the issues listed on them?
Republican Party: https://www.gop.com/platform/
This can be found on the party's website: gop. com. It has some highlighted positions, but the PDF of the full platform can be downloaded from this page. The PDF is quite long, so I recommend using 'ctrl+f' to type in certain issues that you're looking for--if you don't plan to read the whole thing.
Democratic Party: democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
This is found on the party's website: democrats. org. It also has highlighted positions but the full PDF can be downloaded. Their PDF is more concise, but again, you can use 'ctrl+f' if you need to.
Both platforms will be updated before the 2020 presidential election, but there probably won't be many significant changes. Also, they can each be found by simply Googling "republican party platform" and "democratic party platform".
And you feel as though, for example, someone who agrees with a vast majority of those issues, let's say all but 1, and has consistently voted for that party for the last 30 years, you wouldn't consider that person to belong to that party?
I suppose it would depend on the issue and how central it is to the party's platform. For instance, if someone disagreed with the Republican Party on something like nuclear energy, it would be fair to classify that person as a Republican (in addition to whatever their political ideology is).
However, you simply cannot be a Republican without agreeing with the Republican platform on the taxation because it is too central to the party's platform, despite only being one issue.
Nuclear energy and taxation are both just one issue, yes, but the latter has far more weight than the former.
Regardless, the point I was making is that very few people are in lock-step agreement with "their" party, and the overwhelming majority of people view both parties somewhat unfavorably, for one reason or another, and don't consider either to be a fully accurate representation of their beliefs, yet typically vote for one of the two consistently, and justify it by referring to the party's candidate as "the lesser of two evils". I, however, refuse to play that little game.
Well statistically according to Jonathan Hiadts research, republicans have a higher sensitivity to certain moral conditions then democrats do. Their are about five different stats he used and while republicans scored high on all five, democrats only scored high on two of them.
To break it down, republicans tend to be more cautious (and in bad times democrats are far more likely to become republican, republicans rarely become democrat under any circumstance), they tend to favor, at least in the US, freedom from government control as they tend to mistrust it and most groups that profess to know whats best for you while democrats tend to be for these things. Republicans tend to be more focused on traditional values while democrats tend towards novelty, republicans tend to favor a non interventionist approach to most things (again, they tend to be cautious), democrats are all about intervention.
In the US the conservatives tend to value the constitution more then democrats do, and they are more about the individual while the democrats tend to be more in favor of the group.
https://moralfoundations.org/
I'm neither. The two party system is broken and both sides are corrupt. But if I had to lean one way itd be on the side of the Democrats only because they tend to align themselves more with my social views like lgbt and womens rights more so than republicans who just want everyone to live by the bible and that's an automatic no for me.
I'm an LGBT supporting atheist conservative, though. And nearly all of the conservatives I know aren't religious.
Never heard of that but im sure they exist
These days, if you believe in facts and science, you are a Democrat. If you believe in an invisible sky daddy & a magic baby, along with Trump bullshit (drinking disinfectant, calling climate change & coronavirus "a hoax") you are a Republican.
@supercutebutt lol
You know that putting disinfectant into the body is already in-practice, right? It's called H202 nebulization therapy, and it existed long before Trump said anything about disinfectant. And H202 is hydrogen peroxide, a disinfectant, of which I'd imagine you're familiar with. Not to mention, whiskey is a disinfectant. Did we just forget that people drink that all the time? Whiskey has been used as a disinfectant throughout history. How's that for facts and science? Lastly, he didn't tell people to go inject disinfectant, he proposed to the doctor next to him that it be looked into.
Umm, you Trumptards need to get on the same page. YOU are saying Trump is a disinfectant genius but your anonymous '45 plus' butt buddy is telling us Trump was "joking" about the disinfectant injection. Which is it?
@supercutebutt butt buddy? I’m sure name fits more appropriately with that name than me. I stand by what I said. He was joking. If you want, I can provide a link but I don’t think your preschool taught you how to use them or use Google to search.
Claiming that believing in facts and science makes you a Democrat just goes to show how ignorant you are. Every Single "science" of "facts" that people come across in this day and age should be taken with a HUGE shot of Skepticism because scientists are just humans that can be biased or paid for through research funding. Almost any hypothesis can be 'proven' as fact for one side of the line or the other with the right willful manipulation of data or blinding self-fulfilling prophecies at play.
"While a pseudo-science is set up to look for evidence that supports its claims, Popper says, a science is set up to challenge its claims and look for evidence that might prove it false" This sums it up better.
blogs.scientificamerican.com/.../
I don't think he was joking, he may have been joking, but it didn't seem like that to me. How about actually disputing what I said rather than avoid addressing the points I provided?
I also did not say Trump was a disinfectant genius, I have no reason to believe he's parrticularly familiar with anatomy, biology, or chemistry. Since I apparently have to repeat myself, I said that Trump did not suggest the public di something, I daid he proposed that our doctors look into it. I also said that you are fundamentally incorrect when it comes to both facts and science despite claiming to be founded on both. He factually did not tell people to drink disinfectant, and scientifically there are medical procedures in which you put disinfectant inside of the body.
Well? Are we just going to run away from our problems and people who oppose us again?
If you guys believe in facts, and science, you guys definitely need to Learn America's policies to developing countries after 1950s. Companies that showing themselves, Good but avoiding spending money for safety of other workers in 3rd countries. Countries become worse after America came for peace, and the Greater Middle Eastern project.
She's still avoiding addressing my points. Aren't you supposed to be an adult? Perhaps we could get you to take responsibility for your words?
Oh, fuck.
Someone is making excuses for Donald Trump. Give it a rest.
The role of the president of the United States is to take advice from the experts, not to suggest issues he picked up from the internet.
No. Excusing him would be "he's allowed to say what is on his mind because he's the president." Saying "he did not tell people to inject disinfectant into themselves" is not an excuse, in fact, excuse is not even relevant to the notiok being conveyed. The notion being conveyed is a fact, he did not tell people to do that. Why do you liberals have such backwards logic?
You can't excuse what didn't occur, lmfao
"Why do you liberals have such backwards logic?" This lmao. This is a good example of what best defines someone from the Democratic base.
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I believe in the Republic in the the existing form of the constitution without any exception. that literally makes me a republican. I don't feel progressiveness in the current definition to be something good in most cases - it causes labeled and division. That would be the democrats, who also believe that the republic should completely go away and be replaced with a national democratic vote, which would give California and NY the ability to override all other states with a popular vote. Constitution says no to that. I stand by that. Also, I'm a war veteran - I like my country as it is, legally.
Well I was raised Conservative, but after I grew up and started thinking on my own, I realized there were some ideas of Conservatives that I liked, and some ideas of Liberals that were good.
When I registered to vote at 18, I registered as Republican, but since then I've changed it to no party affiliation at all simply because I don't like it when people get hung up on voting or cheering for their "team" simply because they are either blue or red, and they don't take the time to actually hear what their team is saying.
Unfortunately it happens a lot.
I think it is better to actually listen to what someone is saying and make a decision based upon your own morals/ideas instead of just voting for the team.
That's why I am independent now.
I can freely vote for whichever one I feel has the better ideas.
Are you aware of this Greater Middle Eastern Project? Learn why every country America went for "Peace" are became worse than before.
Nowadays im a moderate, but a while back I identified as a republican, all I can say is that my beliefs generally aligned with theirs, for example I was against abortion, and pro 2nd amendment, all that fun stuff, never took kindly on their stance on homosexuality though. At this point though I'm more like, let people do whatever they want, not my problem if you marry the same gender, or shoot a gun, or get an abortion, anything like that, it's not my life to live, it's yours so do whatever you want with it :D
A Republican believes in the individual and that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to with hard work. Further, they believe that government only gets in the way of you achieving that goal. They also believe that once you’ve achieved your goals you can help other with a hand up and not a hand out.
lol.
Democrats believe in government and that it should help everyone from cradle to grave, whether you are Americans or not. In accordance with that belief that have various coalition’s that help with this goal such as unions, LGBT, minorities, feminists etc. In pursuit of this goal, they will use every means possible to make people follow their cause through schools, entertainment, media, sports, books. Anywhere they can inject their politics they will. It’s usually based on feelings and their one common goal is defeating Republicans whom they all dislike more than anything that’s exists on the planet today.
@supercutebutt go read a book and educate yourself
Based on "feelings". LOL!! Coming from the guy who FEELS that there is a magic baby that will welcome him into Heaven after he dies. Hahahah. You are too much!
All of liberalism is feelings. No logic or reasoning involved with being a lefty. Let me guess your teacher or professor told you about climate change and the world has only 5 years to live or we’ll destroy the planet!!! Oh no, you’re so lost. They’ve been saying the planets doomed for 50 years. Go read a book and educate yourself.
You are hilarious! The more you post, the harder I laugh. :)
Cool. I’m drinking a beer shooting a gun with my MAGA hat on. Every time you post I fire another round. Looks like I may run out of bullets.
I hope so. You can't be trusted.
Triggered much? There goes another round. Don’t worry I’ve got plenty of ammo.
You libs are funny. He was joking when he said to inject yourself with it. But you guys can’t take a joke so it went way over your small brains. He’s still President and you guys are still upset. Love it.
I am a moderate and Trump is a retard.
@supercutebutt sigh... back again. More ammo down the drown. There is no such thing as a moderate. If there was, there would be a candidate running or they would have some history. Where in the library is there a book entitled “Great moderated in American History”. No such book, no such party. Just admit you’re a lefty. “Trump is a retard”. Never heard that one before. When you resort to name calling you’ve already lost the argument.
Every president over the past 60 years at least has been moderate... until Trump came along.
Awesome. You actually want to debate something. Most libs shout you down and don’t want to debate. Ok. I’ll bite. Actually you’re only partially right. JFK, conservative Democrat if you really analyze his policies. Nixon moderate to liberal Republican. He brought us OSHA - government agency. Skipping Ford, as he only served a short time. Carter - ultra liberal. He destroyed the economy. Reagan - Conservative. Bush 41 - moderate. Clinton more lib than moderate. Bush 43 - moderate. Obama - hardcore lefty. Trump is actually a populist, one time Dem now a Republican.
They were all moderates... until Trump, who 100% caters to the Evangelic Christian conservative crowd. He isn't one himself but they cheer at his rallies and march around statues with their racist signs and tiki torches and Trump loves any kind of praise so he will say and do whatever it takes to keep the cheers coming. He isn't a "populist", mainly because he lost the popular vote by 3 fucking million. Trump is a narcissist and a dummy. And we need to get rid of him in November :).
@supercutebutt sorry disagree. I gave you examples for each. It’s easy to label other Americans the way you do without even trying to understand why people voted for him. I would explain that to you but you wouldn’t listen so no point. If he were a dummy he would not have built his business up the way he did and be President but again it’s easy to label so you do it. The popular vote is irrelevant as our country chose the electoral vote system. I encourage you to read up on why our Founders set up that system but I believe you won’t. He won using that system. If he knew it was based on the popular vote he would have geared his campaign for that. Finally I hope for four more years as this country needs to remain true to its founding. You probably want Socialism but that system never works is a pipe dream. Some day, when you start paying taxes and have kids you’ll hopefully take the red pill as most people do and understand what’s at stake.
He inherited his wealth and he has a personality that a fraction of the country enjoys. He has a low approval rating but we have a broken system that elects presidents. It's a joke. But if we get out and vote in November, we can send the asshole, and his asshole lickers, packing. :)
And I am not a socialist, you fuckstain. I am a science major who works and who invests. I have already amassed a nice return on my investments and I will crush you in net worth because I am smart and not a dummy, like a typical Trumptard, who counts on Trump welfare when times get tough. I don't believe in magic (Christianity), I believe in reason and facts. Now kindly go fuck yourself, as I find your gaslighting incredibly annoying.
@supercutebutt science major huh? That explains it. Girl, you don’t even know my net worth. I am running circles around you and your Cracker Jack education. I live in Beverly Hills and piss away what you earn in a day or will earn in a lifetime. I guess I’m supposed to cry because you called me names. Get real. Good luck with Creepy Joe in the fall and you definitely need good luck in life because you have zero common sense. Looking forward to four more years of Trump. Have fun with your hate.
You are a loser and people despise you. Now kindly grab hold of your penis, manipulate it until it stiffens, and insert it into your own lubricated anus.
Oh, and stop being an anonymous coward. You are as much of a pussy as Bunker Boy Trump.
Send a thank you note to your professors. They taught you well SJW. For a supposed scientist you lack critical thinking skills. You’re consumed by your hatred. Pity you poor girl. Your comebacks are so weak. I’m laughing at your inept attempts to bother me. You are truly sad and not too intelligent.
This has been like a boxing match only you’ve failed to lay a glove on me since you’re reduced to middle school name calling with penis and butt references. So, I will no longer be responding since most of us conservatives have to go work for living and libs usually don’t wake up until noon or one. I will leave you with the knockout blow. Go to your professor or mom and dad, get some markers and draw a “safe space” in your room and that will protect you from the mean widdle conservative bad man who likes Trump and keeps hurting my liberal feelings. Goodbye.
OMG, you are such a snowflake. You are Bunker Boy Jr.
There are psychological attributes that usually decide where people politically align. For example creative people are usually more liberal. Industrious people are generally more conservative. Disagreeable people are generally more libertarian. So on and so forth.
Can you elaborate on the disagreeable aspect of many/some libertarians?
Both center right/left parties are fine in my opinion. With regards to US, Republican Party atm seems to be edging towards far right. So, I were to choose I would go with Democrats, a party whose leader openly demonises ethnic groups in 2020, supports idiot conspiracy theorists, supports racist movements, denies scientific theories, disrupts global trade by adopting protectionist policies in the name of nationalism can’t be my choice.
Republicans believe that they rule the country.
Democrats believe that it's the rule of the people by the people for the people.
That's the basic ideology.
These days Republicans are more conservative and right leaning; Democrats are more liberal and left leaning.
According to the parties' individual members, their personal ideologies come in front too which may or may not go by the respective party's basic fundamentals.
I’m a Democrat because I like all of their beliefs, I like the things they support and the platform. Of course On every side there extremist that make the party look like a joke. But I don’t vote vote on the party, I would rather vote on the person. Liberals are more accepting of people and different cultures and conservatives are rather close minded and don’t like change, they are afraid of change and moving forward so they choose to stick with their old ways.
Would you like to ask me how I feel about the changes that conservatives are allegedly close-minded to?
They don’t approve of the lgbtq community, trump is passing a law that bans same sex marriage couples from adopting and yet they say they are pro life? If they want so badly for a woman to forcefully have a baby, then why are they against a loving couple adopting a child to give them a home, food, education and love.
I approve of the lgbtq community, or at least a majority of the policies they support. I'm also pro choice, technically.
In theory Republicans support small government and Democrats support big government. In practice, most Republicans support big government and most Democrats support bigger government. Most of both support massive deficits and unnecessary wars. Pointless virtue signaling is a trademark of both, depending upon the issue. Most of both have double standards.
I'm a libertarian and a member of the Libertarian Party.
I can get on board with that
In my opinion, here are some general differences:
1. Republicans are more for "small government," Democrats prefer "big government," at least economically.
2. Republicans are a little more individualist, Democrats more collectivist.
3. Republicans are a little more religious and believe religion should play a part in people's lives. Democrats are more secular.
Those are just general differences. Neither should be taken to the extreme. I don't mean to suggest all Democrats are Communists or all Republicans believe everyone should convert to Christianity, or go to jail.
Republicans fundamentally believe the people own the government.
Democrats fundamentally believe the government owns the people.
Everything else is camouflage.
The people own the government? The police are allowed to kill the people but the people own them? Our government can send people to die in a nonsensical war but the people own the government? Are you the dumbest man alive?
@supercutebutt
"The people own the government? The police are allowed to kill the people but the people own them?"
*Yes. The same as the military. Hopefully only those who deserve it. There will always be a few bad actors but the principle remains valid.
"Our government can send people to die in a nonsensical war (?)"
*Yes. They volunteered. And who decides what is nonsensical? You? Was eliminating ISIS nonsensical?
"But the people own the government?"
*Unfortunately not, because of the embedded Deep State democrats who believe the people are serfs.
"Are you the dumbest (hu) man alive?"
*Since you are here, I could only rank #2. But I did my best.
But thanks for taking the time to respond. Dialog is good.
Republicans are supposed to be people who value small government
Democrats big government
The reality is neither party looks out for its constitutes
In my short life time I have seen the Republican party turn from Neo-conservative to libertarian to Trumps America first
0 principles
Democrats are shit too because they don't believe in God
The best predictor psychologically of someone falling on the right or the left of the political spectrum is the big five personality test. People who score higher in trade openness tend to be on the left and people who score higher in orderliness tend to be on the right
Democrats generally want the government to take care of people, and use its power to protect the defenseless and the outcasts of society. Republicans generally want to be free to live as they wish and build strong communities that can solve their own problems.
Well, that's a question based on Opinion for some, and Fact for others! I "consider" myself a Republican simply for a few choices and beleifs Republicans have made, however I don't agree with everything... I just agree more with Republicans than Democrats. But recently, I've kinda given up. It's just too much to keep track of.
Cons are more family and country types and for the old way of lifestyle. And liberals and democrats are against them and trying to change everything and do everything their way. So their agenda is like gay people becoming a thing, taking away religion, supporting Iran and muslims, whatever look at any liberal dominant area they are trying to turn it into that.
i've voted for both. I believe our government should be strong to lower the debt but i also think wealth needs to be spread because jobs are being replaced with machines programs that use to train American's for job are no longer around so people are being left behind and the rich just get richer
The hidden agenda for Democrats is to be able to have total control of everyone else's life from womb to tomb. The Republicans, on the other hand, want you to fend for yourselves through thick and thin. The Democrats are for the people IF they obey the party edicts. The Republicans are for the businesses and groups who fill their coffers.
Both have been corrupted and therefore should be ignored in all future elections.
Republicans are the scam party, so basically if you insist on believing in magical solutions they are the party for you. Everyone else is a democrat by default.
What sort of magical solutions?
Perhaps the most straightforward example is trump's "it goes away in April, it'll be like a miracle." thing (about the coronavirus). Notice how this didn't immediately raise alarm bells throughout the Republican party that we have someone in charge who doesn't know what he is doing. Instead, they were happy to believe that, yes, in fact, it will go away in April.
There are a lot of other examples - even the belief in trickle down economics is a belief in magic, of sorts - but probably the most prominent example is religion. All religion is rooted in the belief that magic is real - if a religion lacks magic it's usually just called a philosophy. If there was no immortality or miracles mentioned in the bible, for example, what would even be the point of believing it?
I didn't believe that it would end in April, I'm not sure how I feel about trickle down economics, I haven't looked into it, but I have no reason to belief it's false, and me and all my conservative friends aren't religious at all?
We've been trying trickle down economics for the last 40 years but still have poverty. Plus every time republicans are put in charge they push their trickle-down policies to further extremes which has, without exception, led to economic collapse and stimulus checks for everyone.
Meanwhile, the debt balloons to create more cash for their rich friends to hoard. There's not really anything to like about this system unless you are a billionaire, so the republicans work hard to craft the message that it's "edgy disobedience" or "super-chill dynamism" to want trickle down economics. That is the scam. Because there's nothing "cool" about helping rich people take your money. Thays just being tricked.
But if how you describe yourself is true, it seems like you only vote Republican because everyone you know is doing it. Or maybe you don't even bother to vote? I don't know your friends, but probably half of Republican voters do so solely because of abortions. Or at least that's what they say would be their main reason. But they might have also fallen for the "it's cool to be robbed" thing I mention earlier.
If you favor no taxes at all on the rich, and the top 1% keeping everyone else in defacto slavery, then you are a Republican.
If you support homosexuality, beastiality, and abortion, then you are a Democrat.
the Two have been switched around. During Clinton’s campaign the color schemed was switched just to screw with people. When Jefferson died his party was put into the category of right vs left. Instead of being united we have to divide ourselves every 4-8 years instead of working together. People need to be united.
I read up on every view point side by side. Thought I was a Democrat but I am a Republican. I only have 4 topics that both sides need to figure out
I'm neither. My political views and stands are balanced with common sense for the well being of all.
I'm a conservative and I took that test and they claimed I was a Libertarian liberal. (The Libertarian part may have been true to an extent, but I'm no liberal).
Old ancient decrepit racists are Rupubli-tards...
Everyone else is in the other tent
So I, a 25 year old, is old, ancient, decrepit, and racist?
You may not be, but you're in their company. There's a perception problem and a reason why their ranks are getting depleted en masse. Combine that with Prezident Pussy-Grabber's insane hold over all those sycophantic ball-less fools, and the party of Lincoln is careening off a cliff. It's like radioactive poison.
Yeah I mean trump, accoridng to the same media that claims he's losing steam, said he had a 2% chance to win the election, some even claimed he chances were "virtually zero." This was repeated thousands if not millions of times. The left is biased and they try to speak things into existence, and it's absolutely futile.
And just as an example, someone we both know momentarily ago said "Republicans are old people" yet here i am, a young man. You can say things all you want, but that won't make them true.
HAHAha! "losing steam" ... WTF? I don't think that because of anyone in the media repeating any one point -- are you kidding>? Talk about an over-simplification. Anyone with half a brain who's been watching his presidency these last few year should be able to see for themselves the cartoonish, unbelievable, embarrassing, reckless, ineptitude (I could go on all day) of of the Orange Menace -- the petty, lowlife gifter, ... so pathetic and shallow, the disaster in chief is not exactly 'subtle' now is he? -- He broadcasts his ignorance and how unsuitable he is daily. He's never got above 50%, more than half the country despises him, ... the ones who gave him a chance, a lot of them are horrified and turned off by what his presidency has been, and his base has remained unchanged, maybe decreased a little (by a sliver cause they're hard-core stupid) ut still. He'll be historically known as a 'blip' -- a one off --- the time a full on psycho sociopath weezled his way into the white house. Do you really think the country has an appetite for MORE? -- FOUR M-O-R-E years of tweets and stupidity and international shame, and that illiterate dipshit? Not fucking way in hell... no way, no how, not again, trust me. HE HAS GOT TO GO. mark my words
Yeah, and "statistically" Trump allegedly had a 2% chance of winning. Unfortunately, these polls, studies, you name it, are often biased nowadays. And I do agree with you on the younger people differing from some of the stereotypes that the older Republican generations had. Like I really dislike how abrasive nearly all established conservative new outlets are. Granted, many left-wing outlets are particularly rude and demeaning, hatred breeds hatred and I don't support hardly any conservative news organizations solely based on how confrontational and dismissive they are. People need discussion, not condescension. And just as an example of how I may differ with stereotypical Republican beliefs, I fully support things like homosexuality/gay marriage. Though many conservatives my age that I'm familiar with don't oppose homosexuality.
Republican is conformity to religion while Democrat is conformity to a dictatorship.
I'm Republican and atheist, though?
I’m republican. The democrats motto is “defending yourself is bad now give me free stuff”
You didn't mention what a Republican was
according to political science, the difference between parties in what essentially is a 2 party system are almost negligibly low.
So someone who, for example, opposes capitalism and someone who opposes socialism have very little difference? Or someone who supports authoritarianism and someone who supports libertarianism also have little difference?
no. those examples you mentioned are individual datapoint in the spectrums and if you compare 2 people with each other, it would depend on the individual case on "how far" they are appart. the differences can be really big. those would be the extreme ends of left/right, authoritarian/libertarian. if you graph all members of a society along those spectrums, you'd get a classical bell-courve, meaning the "majority" is closest to the center. so therefore in a 2 party system, the parties can't move away too far from the center without losing a lot of votes. cause in a 2 party system, even the "right wing party" would try to get some of the left wing votes and vice versa. their net gain in votes is maximized by doing that.
that means that the further away from the center towards the extreme left or right you are as an individual, the less your preferences and interests will be represented in either of the parties and the more center you are, the more likely that both parties represent your interest somewhat equally well.
that's where the meme of the "giant douche" and the "turd sandwich" comes from. cause no matter what you vote, the outcomes will be fairly similar. the southpark creators are not dumb :)
because you know winning the vote in a 2 party system is a zero sum game. the winner takes it all.
I am neither I vote for who ever I believe to be the best choice. That is sometimes difficult because Republican s will not let you vote for a Republican unless you have a Republican ticket. Fore that I say screw the Republicans.
I don't see much difference between these two: both full of America; both full of contempt. The 'hardcore' ones, I mean.
They are indoctrinated… Nope, I don’t belong to either of those political parties.
More often then not, my interests lie within the Democratic Party, but I'm registered Non Party Participant.
" I, Me, Mine ", at anyone's expense, is the Republican creed for the most part.
The Dems don't have one - they're too confused. LOL
Apparantly its completely arbitrary.
Christians think libertine capitalism is their friend because 'enemy of my enemy'
Basically if you pay taxes for the most part you are a Republican. If your a lazy welfare sponge or a trust fund baby who never had a job, you are a Democrat
I tend to look at facts firsts before emotion. In general (but not always) one political side is more prone at doing this.
I agree. The magic baby crowd is VERY emotional.
@supercutebutt so is the crowd that magically believes that COVID-19 is “woke” and won’t infect huge crowds of screaming protestors just as long they are protesting the right thing.
Lmao
I am an Independent, but mostly vote Republican. Most people vote like their parents. My dad was a Democrat and my mom is a Republican.
Oh yeah the Two Party Ilusion.. Two Wings, of the same Bird.
What's illusory about it?
Is all controlled by the same people, you can "vote" what you want it doesn't matter the "president" aka next puppet is already selected by the true owner of this country.
keep believing in your illusion you have freedom, keep believing you have a choice.
Who is the true owner of this country?
The Zionist, Like Lord Rothschild once said " I Control the Money money supplies and I dont care where make the rules"
USA is founded by Freemasons, The reason the USA has 13 stripes on the flag the reason you see the famous blue+red masonic colors.
But dont worry, the Zionist own us all, the own the entire planet. that being said, All the World is a Stage.
Who is the Zionist?
The guys behind the Stage running the Show what you call Earth.
people in general, want the same things.. the problem is, the two parties, differ, in how to go about getting them
Most retardlicans are racists idiots who worship as their cult leader a corrupt, game show host who filed bankruptcy 6 times.
Is he bankrupt, though? Or was he exploiting a system's loopholes for financial gain? I mean google says his net worth is currently 2.1 billions dollars. Is that what bankruptcy looks like?
Trump has always lied about his value. He told Deutsche Bank he was worth $3 billion, they reviewed his finances and estimated his worth at $788 million. He's not even a real billionaire. He's a joke. and you're a sucker for believing his bullshit.
trump cultists thought trump was a business genius who would run the country like a business and they got what they asked for. he's run it just like any one of his failed businesses.
Trump’s failed businesses:
1. Trump Steaks
2. GoTrump
3. Trump Airlines
4. Trump Vodka
5. Trump Mortgage
6. Trump: The Game
7. Trump Magazine
8. Trump University
9. Trump Ice
10. The New Jersey Generals
11. Tour de Trump
12. Trump Network
13. Trumped!
Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:
1. Trump Taj Mahal
2. Trump’s Castle
3. Trump Plaza Casinos
4. Trump Plaza Hotel
5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
6. Trump Entertainment Resorts
Gotcha, so google is incorrect. Trump actually lives in a 1 bedroom apartment somewhere in New York city because he's secretly poor. Can you give a few examples as to how he has ran the country like one of his failed businesses?
He got loans through Deutsche Bank who analyzed is finances. Did your source on google lend him money and review his finances? unlikely.
Keep in mind your fucking clown cult leader said he was worth $10 billion on the campaign trail in 2016. Another lie.
My source was Google, it's those little snippets you get at the top of your Google searxh, and Google is biased against conservatives. And why would the Dutch bank give him such massive loans of he's so clearly terrible with money? And he's lived his life like this his whole life. He's 73 years old. You don't think financial incompetence would have caught up with him by now? And cool, he lied, I'm not disputing that. You act like I blindly follow him. What I am, and have been, disputing is your claim that he's financially incompetent.
Patriotism, and Religion caused wars since foundation of these stupid ideas!
Republicans want less government intrusion and control. Democrats want total control and want to tax you to death
No idea, no idea and no.
None I'm a communist
Welfare programs then “democratic” socialism then socialism then communism. True colors are showing. Let’s just magically forget how the Soviet Union, North Korea and PRC are responsible for over a 100 million deaths in the last 70 years.
What are you going to do/suggest/support differently than the historic individuals who have tried?
I do realize that the middle class is shrinking. That’s not a good thing at all. I also know that healthcare and higher education are ridiculous. Before I got with my theory I want to say I’m COGNIZANT of that.
However the idea capitalism creates winners and losers is a myth. It actually raises up both the advantaged and the disadvantaged together. Yes the disadvantaged will always be... well disadvantaged. But the creation of wealth increases the standard of living of all classes. Poor people in the United States are actually much better of than the middle class (if it exists) in countries that are not capitalistic.
@youknowbetter and let's forget Capitalism is responsible for more than 500 million deaths worldwide because of European colonizing and American imperialism
And that’s all just a white atrocity right? Speaking of conquerers and exploitation Genghis Khan is personally responsible for killing over 50 million people. He was also the rapists of rapists.
Also lots of these deaths are due to small pox and disease. Was is right that so many native Americans died that way? Absolutely not. But do you think the European settlers actually realized they brought this to North America back then? Maybe it was just a really shitty coincidence?
You have been brainwashed.
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