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Here is what I had learned throughout life as somebody who is broke and in college. DON'T BUY THE HYPE! The truth is many men who say that are just upset they don't have good women (whom they often reject for whatever reason) that they have to take CARE of a woman, and they don't want to move up but expect women to dumb down and be down and low. There are men who do expect you to be highly independent and have a career, job, degree, etc. Because many of them are already on that level. The problem is that most women on that level are divorcing these men for either more money, lower money, happiness, or whatever reason. EXCLUDING abuse, neglect, and cheating.
So allow me to basically reiterate your question and description.
"I’ve been told by many men that men actually don’t care about a woman’s degree or how much she makes." It all depends on the intent. They mostly say it because they want a woman to have sex with. PERIOD. We're not talking about getting married, children, and raising a family. They are often men who never went to college, don't want to, but some of them don't want to go to vocational school either. They think that every woman is seeking a corporate man. But that is not TRUE. All we ask is that no matter what job you have, make money, and make ENOUGH to support the woman you want.
The reality is this. The men are just as much as hypocrites who don't know what they want as well as women. At least in the middle ages, you knew what was expected of you even if you had no choice who you marry and if you got raped. A woman who has a degree makes those types of men feel threatened. They don't want smart women, they want dumb women who they can use and abuse mostly. Not all. But a good amount. Even though highly educated and rich men can do the same. The problem is that there aren't many men who actually care about God and Godly things anymore. So it leaves women not to be wives because the moment they have sex as young as 11 and 13, they seem to forgive that is already married but it's illegal.
“the only man that cares about how much a woman makes is a man who wants you to financially take care of them” Bald-faced lie. I had a family member who did that to grandmothers of mine, the women worked and the men hardly worked. Neither of my grandmothers went to college. My oldest had to leave school to work at 10 years old. My other one got pregnant at 16, started working right away as did my late grandfather. Sadly that marriage didn't last. Remarried a guy who neglected and abused her also. It's a curse. If women get the men your talking about firstly who claim they don't care about your degree or how much money you make are the ones who often use and abuse you. A man who appreciates your period would be happy that you did what made you happy and want to offer for a relationship, instead of saying that. He may not personally care. But if you got a degree in business for example, because you want to learn how to start your own business, he would be happy that it's beneficial. If he too had a degree in business or similar and wants to own things or take over a family business, somebody like you would help him. Even Hospitality or work/life experience such as volunteer, charity, etc can help! Anyway, you can utilize your Godlygifts is what a man should focus on. Not down play a woman.
"so if this is true, why are so many women under the impression that men care about their degrees and income?" I'll give you a hint. Because if you want to be a housewife, you have two issues with this. Either they want it, have sex with you, get you pregnant and you can't meet your wifely duties and you want and want and want (shopping, clothes, video games, vocation, nails done, etc), then your lazy. If he has to do everything for you and refuse to give him sex at least and cook his dinner and clean the house, your lazy and useless. They're not looking for a partner they're looking for a sex slave most of them. And many women at record high numbers from ages 9-40+ sadly do this. Guess why so many are OnlyFans and wanting to be Youtube stars and Instagram influencers?
50 years ago or more, women were RESPECTED whether she worked or not. More respected if being a housewife. No matter what a woman wanted to do, get married, go to college, take over the family business, become a teacher, charity, be a career woman, etc women were RESPECTED. Nowadays we have none. And neither are men.
Put it like this. It doesn't matter if their Christian, Religious, spiritual, atheist, old or young, black, white, Asian, Modernist, Traditionalist, have a college education, basic education, literate or not, whatever, wherever, if they're selfish, they're selfish. This is how I know what most say is BS and simple control. Heck even in churches to a degree, and I'm a Christian myself:
8-16 years old: "I don't want to get married!" "Who wants to date a prude!" "Nobody is going to want to date or marry you or have kids!" "You must be asexual or something!" "OOOOOH! She has to be lesbians if she isn't interested in having sex or men." <-- This was from females. But guys said the same thing.
17- early 20s: "I don't want to get married young!" "You don't even have a job!" "You should date older men past 30. They like to get married and have kids." <-- And yet they can't even get a woman their own age and I met amazing women past 30 who want the same. Most were perverts anyway.
The Mid 20s--now: "Your gonna hit the wall, you should have got a man at 13-25, that's the best time to have children." Yet, he can't take care of me or himself and only cares about sex and having sex just to get children, but not me as a person. -__- "I can't deal with a woman who has such a list!" What list that isn't so hard to meet? "I bet you you're a feminist!" Nope. I'm a Christian who is traditional by nature but is modernly adaptive to the times. Didn't ask for feminism. "Well, you should have thought about it before riding the c*ck carousel, lol!" How so, when I'm a virgin? I ask them what did they do, CRICKETS chirping or they're mad with their male feminist attitudes!
And as you heard "I don't care about your degree!" Oh you don't, then you shouldn't mind paying all the bills (we don't even need Netflix, getting a house (I don't care if it's a farmhouse, having a car (doesn't have to be expensive), having a job (make sure you have ENOUGH to take care of a family, having benefits, etc), be willing to help me get food in the house, and not hanging out drinking and coming home drunk like a stupper, and don't complain about no sex if your masturbating and watching porn. And you want to serve God and go to church, help me raise our children.
I am no one's maid or hoe. So these men are ridiculous. Thank God there are men out there that aren't like that. They call you ugly, and all sorts of stuff yet you need to marry, have sex, or date somebody? Asker, don't pay attention to morons. I wished I learned this years ago. Judge by their character and their fruits. Look at their history, how they live life, their beliefs, and values. What have they done throughout their singleness? And not just their looks (meaning how they dress and carry themselves) alone.
Come back and talk to me when you are married and you have your wife and kids and you have a solidified marriage for x amount of years. Until then I think I'm going to be out of the country and away from you crazy behind people. Men included. If I want to get married one day if that's even my choice at least I know where to find that man. Not with you crazy behind people. A man that loves a woman with care that he has some type of education did not. If she desires to have an education teacher support her. Not shame her for something that he don't want to have for himself. I at least want a man with an educational. But if he doesn't have one, then find something to do to support yourself, make the income because I'm NOT wearing the pants and do everything myself and go back to school! Get a certificate, something, or hear my mouth till the moon! If a man ain't looking to elevate and do what he has to do in order to support a family I am not sticking around with that kind of man. And I'm definitely not marrying him. If I'm looking to be with a man is going to be a serious relationship. Not a casual one. That guy will be a friend he would not be considered a husband.
I love to learn. I'm so far I'm enjoying my college experience even if it's not perfect. They have a man telling me how my education don't matter to him that a lot about him, not me. Try finding work with little to no experience being jobless for 5 years and you're struggling and you don't have hardly anything, no benefits, no bank account, no Apartments, you're sick physically, and you told your lazy and you can't do nothing all your life and it's not even your fault. You will be glad that you even went to school to be able to do something even if it's not what you really wanted to do. I don't care if you go to a technical school to learn welding. Do SOMETHING. I'm not going to be someone's housewife but he refuses to take care of me also. Financial stability is important. Play that game for somebody to you want to sucker into a so-called civil union without marriage. You're not doing that to somebody like me who knows to get married and do it God's way. If that is of my desire, at least I know my place as a woman, take care of the family, raise the kids, and not divorce. And if I do it's only me I can't blame nobody else but myself for those choices. But don't you dare try to treat me as if I don't have a choice.
If you are not going to be the head of the household and take care of her and the children oh, don't tell a woman what you can and can't do. Because anyway a woman needs to survive she's going to do what she needs to supply. She's not going to worry about you if you don't give a damn, and all you give a damn about is yourself. A good woman is not going to look down on you just because you have a job at McDonalds. But if you don't want this want to do something better for yourself, if you don't got any kind of ambition, you better remain single or don't complain about the women you attract.
In general, men dont care about a woman's a degree/money. Why is that so hard to understand? I'll start caring about a womans money if she wants to be a sugar momma, but other than that she just needs to be physically attractive, loyal, and supportive.
How did this even get a superb opinion? This is dead wrong.
@Louistruman19
You men are hypocrites. WE CARE. If you don't care about what we care about, why would and should we waste our time? There are guys that do and appreciates that. You say you only care when she's this or that, but many of you have 0 BUSINESS to be involved with a woman ANYWAY.
She has to be physically attractive? Then don't get mad when were not attracted to YOU.
Loyal? Why? You said she has to be physically attractive? What does loyalty have anything to do with that?
Supportive? Hypocrisy!!! You don't care about her degree, something she worked hard for. Something she wanted. But has to support you and what you want? This is why you men can't get good women or women period. But blame us.
Sound like you men don't know what a real woman is. Attraction doesn't pay the bills. And it doesn't mean she is going to be loyal or supportive of you. There are good women and people out there I've seen and known who are loyal and supportive people, you don't want them because they're not 'attractive' to you. But meanwhile, you don't even treat attractive women with respect. Sounds like about having less intelligence, and the refusal to grow, and learn than it doesn't about any of those three things. Find women of your own level and as the saying goes since this is your attitude "stay in your lane." You are going to attract most women who look similar to your own since you people go by that 1-10 rating nonsense. Because guess what? Most attractive women who want to improve educational wise are not looking your way. I laugh at this. A man who doesn't care about my education is not a man for me. A man who only cares if I am attractive to him needs to go somewhere because he is not going to make me miserable. I am MORE than just a "pretty face". I am myself and I am ME. I aged as everybody else. A guy who cannot appreciate my natural self isn't deserving of me. I'm celibate and by myself for a good reason. Because I deserve BETTER. Not less. A man who refuses to improve is not a man. But a boy. Nothing wrong with liking your job. Nothing wrong with getting certification. But WHY should a woman choose YOU? Just because you like women with "Hourglass figures" let's say, I'm that myself. WHY should I go for a man just because I have that? What does it benefit him or me? So it may mean I may be able to bear children (on a genetic and scientific level), but other than that, what is his BUSINESS? I God forbid not like that anymore, he's going to stop being 'attracted' to me because I'm not what he wants anymore? Then he needs to find other women who don't mind getting hurt. Better for a man to say he just wants sex than to say he wants a family and somebody to love.
Because love has 0 to do with that. If I wasn't celibate anymore, I expect something stable. Not fleeting. If I can respect and love a man in all of his changes, why can't he do the same? If he wanted to go to school, why would I say I wouldn't care unless it's for his own happiness? Education VERY much matters to me. His desires MATTER to me. A man's desires MATTERS to a woman because she is not going to 'pair up' or 'mate' with a 'weak man'. That's why with that so-called 'Alpha MALE' crap, why do you think they talked about it?
You people act like animals but expects to be treated as human beings and say you have rights. How? When you don't act like humans? It is human for a woman to be selective of a mate. She cannot just mate with every man, that's why some women can't get pregnant by every man because of genetic incompatibility. That's why some men can get women pregnant, but can't get their 'wife' pregnant. That doesn't always mean there is something wrong with his sperm. Or her egg. But that your not genetically compatible. Think about it before you want to talk about being attractive phyiscally matters. But again, what does loyalty and support have to do with it? None. You should worry about if a person wants to be loyal and is, is supportive of you and will than physical. Looks can be DECEIVING.
This what I had said isn't wrong. But the truth and facts. Because why are so many good women out there are asking for good men, and you same men, degrade them, mock them, talk about their hoes and you don't even KNOW THAT. Yet when your sexual history and relationship choices are questions you DEFEND it and want to know why they defend theirs? God called for a MAN to lead, be responsible and take care of whom, the WOMAN of his choosing. Yet you keep praying and asking God for a wife. Or girlfriend. I've been alone all my life. I've seen the games. I only asked for little, and while my standards are high it's not hard. Because I live by those morals and principles. And I've listed what I've been through throughout my life. All I keep hearing is EXCUSES. All a woman wants is to be LOVED. That's all. She doesn't care about sex, she needs love. If she finds you attractive why shut down a woman you say you're not attracted to, BUT you want one so badly, yet shame other women who don't find you attractive yet you want them? You know I've shut down PLENTY of handsome men. Because we weren't compatible.
UNDERSTAND this. That if you expect us to be physically attractive, you sure as hell better be making the bread and taking the bacon home. We are NOT going to be your maids and baby-making machines yet you can't take care of us or afford us. I cook, I clean, I raised my dogs (2 whom I'm sure even YOU can't take care of fulltime, that includes food, water, bathing over 2 200 pound dogs, taking to the vet, groomers, walking all of them 2-3times a day, getting up at 4, CLEANING up their mess in the house AND outside, giving them meds), I'm a fulltime student doing a LOT of work, essays, maintaining a 4.0, having WRITING extensive on TOP of that, meetings, doctors appointments AND caregiver of the elderly who has both DEMENTIA and Memory issues, handling their meds, food 3-4x a day, helping them change, clean, monitoring them like children, AND was a deceased parent. Changing their clothes, meds, helping them move around the house, mobility in general, being at doc appoints, food, etc. Helping my living parent with computer issues, phone issues, and all. That doesn't include maintaining contact with friends and extended family. With little to no time for mySELF. And you have the audacity to say I'M WRONG? I would have been married by 19 if that was the case. I started WORK at 19 while young men were sleeping with who they slept with. I had to grow up, while their so-called adults thinking they don't. If I needed them HOME. They're having premarital sex, watching porn, partying, hanging out with their 'homeboys' or whoever. Bad influences at that. Don't talk that BS. Because somebody like you would find me controlling and yet that is what a married couple and a relationship entitles. You just want sex. FUN having sex. You don't care about responsibilities and maintaining a relationship.
Respect what the woman of your choosing wants or don't expect her to respect you or want to be supportive and loyal. A woman can doll herself up for anyone. That doesn't mean she cares. It MEANS she wants to be considered. I know. Because my late mother did it because she didn't feel loved or attractive. And yet she died feeling that way and try to project those same insecurities on me. It's wrong what you men do. It's wrong how women treat you too. But women of God, will NOT settle for less. If you are a man of the world, then go for the women of your world. Because I wouldn't be with a man who refuses to be of God and doesn't do right by me. Because I have a lot to offer. What's your resume?
Okay look, you can have your degree, but just dont expect most men to give a damn. Its not a top priority for most men. According to human biology, men are hardwired to seek out youth, beauty, and fertility in women, not an education. You can rant all you want but its not going to change our biology. At best you might be able get some men to pretend care about your degree if they find you physically attractive in the first place lol.
You know why this was picked Supurb, not that it matters? Because it's MATURE, and relevant and speaks the truth. No matter what you men say. Your not married. Many of you talking that BS is single and have had little to no relationship or dating let alone SEXUAL experiences. Even with that, God said to wait for marriage, yet you don't. Sex is a marriage yet you marry and divorce your 'girlfriends' whom you made 'wives' with every vagina your penis touches and go into. How can you JUDGE for the same sins you already DONE or desire to do? How can you JUDGE? If you refuse to take care of a woman, don't complain about a woman who needs to make sure she takes care of herself. It's survival. We care more about our survival now. Because as man's love became meaningless, so have a woman. A woman now a man desires sex, so she puts out for sexual needs. What does love have anything to do with it, but you call them whores yet you refuse to see your whoremongering.
@Louistruman19
"Okay look, you can have your degree, but just dont expect most men to give a damn." I do expect men to give a damn. You boys don't. Men do. That's why men get and keep wives. Boys like you lose them to other MEN.
"Its not a top priority for most men." CORRECTION. It is not a top priority to most BOYS. Even in ancient times, it was expected of a MAN NOT A BOY, to be in service to the community, military and even be engaged in politics.
"According to human biology, men are hardwired to seek out youth, beauty, and fertility in women, not an education." WRONG. Men are hardwired to be straight thinkers, one track mind, being a provider, leader and enjoys reaping the beneifts of his harvest. It is a personal choice to find a mate or not. God may have designed you to desire sex and a woman. But youth, beauty and fetility has 0 to do with it. A woman is designed to seek out a man who can lead, have provisions and is genetically compatible to her. Her degree is another form of her ability to cook, clean and be of good character. Not so much because of her looks. A woman can look like a goddess, but if she can't sew, cook or clean let alone be able to bare children, she is considered useless.
"You can rant all you want but its not going to change our biology." Its not biology, it's ignorance and willful ignorance at that which is not attractive to me personally. And if it's in biology, then either your born of a lower status or you just choose to not do anything for your life to attract the right kind of mate for you.
"At best you might be able get some men to pretend care about your degree if they find you physically attractive in the first place lol." Really? That's why my friends who have them married those who also have degrees, build friendships before courting, and now have CHILDREN of their own. Let me know when your married and kids and then get back to me.
You have nothing to offer a woman. I have more respect for a beggar than somebody who acts so privileged as you. As if you have entitlement. I grew up with nothing. I never once turned down a man because he had nothing. But encouraging friendship, getting to know each other, and promote GROWTH, fostering education. If you refuse to work the fields let alone a farm producing something, don't talk to me about and education. I refuse to be involved with a lazy man. This is life. This is called 2021, this is not 1202. Wake up. Either get with the program or stop complaining. If you refuse to pay your bills it's not my problem. You don't see me begging a man to pay mine.
@btbc92 If you really love what you're majoring in college, why should a man being attracted or not attracted to your degree bother you? Are you even in college for the right reasons or are you only doing it just because you think it makes you more attractive 🤔?
My uncle and many of my older family member care. That's why they have WIFES and grandchildren, and great-grands with good educations, who came from NOTHING. Focused on their education, met their mates in college, got married soon after, and started a family, not just their careers. Healthy families build healthy children, and healthy children find healthy mates, and to have usually healthy children and the good cycle continues. If you didn't have that, it's okay. But if you lack the desire and willingness to become better, then your selfish and need to stay out of it. I expect a healthy union and family. I am not baring a man's child who refuses to do his JOB. You need BOTH parties available financially. So unless your rich and own your own business and making capital, with a home, car, and everything prepared for a wife. Get to work, or don't eat. I'm not cooking for a man who can't do that much.
"If you really love what you're majoring in college, why should a man being attracted or not attracted to your degree bother you?" Because I would never do that to him and support everybody dreams. I would never shame him for something he wants to do. Do you want to fly to the moon? Go for it. Do you want to be a basketball player? Go for it. Want to be a chief? Go for it. You dream to be a writer? GO for it! I love a dreamer! But be practical with it and ask somebody to mentor you. I need to be with somebody who can mentor and grow WITH ME. NOT fight against me. Unless he is doing or interested in unGodly things and immoral stuff, I never trampled on a man's DREAMS! One of my young classmates said he wanted to be a chief. He felt embarrassed because many people didn't support him and he wanted to be an ARMY chief. He's a culinary major I told him, GO FOR IT! And I prayed that he would find a person who would love him for him and not for just what he can do for them. It is a benefit to see a man cook a do a woman's job!
"Are you even in college for the right reasons or are you only doing it just because you think it makes you more attractive 🤔?" I'm in college because I love wisdom, learning is a high-achiever, I need it for a stable career as somebody who been out of work for 5 years, with little to no work experience, is on scholarships already, is the first of my family to attend college, and to leave the country, move to an Asian country, is studying the language for over 10 years of my life, already prepping for studying abroad and living my life. I do it for me, not because of some man. If it is for a man, it is for the FAMILY me and that man decided to share already. Not a stranger. Hence why wouldn't date STRANGES. ONLY a FRIEND I knew for years. Somebody who already is capable of loving me, respecting me, and already have the desirable traits, character, qualities, history, etc that matters to me as it should matter to him. NOT some random dude like you.
. I don't care what you judge of me or expect of me. I am not looking for you. And you sound unattractive and below my level. I left high school with a 1.7 GPA. So don't tell me about education to attract a man. I was broke even then. I got shamed for being a virgin and waiting for marriage to have it. So enough of the BS.
I need to work. I need to live, I need to take care of myself. I am not getting married, I am not having sex let alone outside of marriage, I'm not having kids, not out of WEDLOCK, and not with the wrong man. I am not courting or dating. I am not LOOKING for a man. Never did, never will. I don't care how horny, how lonely, how much I can fantasize and dream and think about what I could've, shoulda, woulda, wish I had, but, ifs ands about it. I don't care anymore. Why bother? You don't want to sacrifice. You don't want to do the right thing. Or what is hard. You're not compassionate. Have a love for others. No innocence or purity anymore. You laugh at my plight yet you judge me? Your evil. You have darkness that you refuse to turn to the light. To go to God. Why should anybody like me want you? Desire you? There is nothing for me down here. Self-serving. Bullying people, stomping on others' dreams. Why do any of your words matter to me? You're not God. I owe you no explanation for what I do. Your just an insecure man who's bitter and trying to get a come up. A woman doesn't owe you her time as you do not owe me your time. I'm living life. Not this foolishness you have going on with stagnation. Can't make a horse drink if he doesn't want to.
That 20 years old is more of a Man than you are, and your 24. Shame how the young have more understanding than you do, and your only 4-5 years younger than me. And it's embarassing. Better to be a farmer, than to have no profitable skill and refuse to gain any. But you want a woman. Thousands of years ago, men hunted. I will rather be with a tribal African who can hunt and bring food than a lazy man who is complaining how a woman doesn't need an education! Can you cook for yourself? Can you sew? Can you clean? Can you at LEAST do MECHANICAL WORK? Technical work? What the HELL are you DOING with your life! I have more respect for a video game tester and an artist or photographer than a guy of your caliber who refuses to respect a woman's strengths! You're a boy! This Japanese 10-year old who desires to run an aquarium in Tokyo is more of a man than somebody who complains and whines like a child. And he's only 10! Ladies, don't waste your time!
I see a lot of projection in your comments. Maybe you'll understand one day.
@Louistruman19 What projection? There isn't anything for me to project. Either you respect a woman or don't have one. Don't complain. We all have our own problems. If you're not going to contribute, then be by yourself. Not complain about why a woman is upset. God made us with giftings. If a man cannot expect what God gives then she will be given to one who is deserving of her.
I understood years ago. There were men who respected me. They are ashamed such guys like you even bothered to cross my path. They wouldn't say somebody like me comes once in a lifetime if I was projecting. God is in control. You, again, are not GOD. So don't tell me what my value or worth is.
I find this topic so interesting. I have a friend's who's marrying a woman he's been with since they were in college (they're mid-late 20s now), but he would only marry someone who earns around the same as himself incase she financially rapes him with a divorce. Now, if you're not that solid in your relationship I'd question why you're getting married in the first place. Also, men talk about them losing everything but what od they think happens to women? What about all of the years she's lost bearing and raising his children when she could have been building up her career to earn more? She has to sacrifice something, she doesn't get to have both like men. So to say it's juts men that lose out is completely selfish and ignorant of that fact. I question whether the woman should even be marrying a man who thinks like that to be honest. I know I certainly wouldn't go into a marriage thinking that if it didn't work out I'd take him for all he has, and I certainly wouldn't marry a man who wouldn't think it fair to compensate a woman for the sacrifices she's also made! There are too many self centred unstable people around today it seems. I'd have thought you'd go into marriage with team work in mind regardless of what happens - especially given children are likely to be involved.
Generally speaking coin doesn't factor into a man evaluation of a woman and women generally do value a man by coin. (Its not just coin but also status)
I think the situation is that women have an expectation or requirement that a man make at least as much as they do which is probably fine in the lower income ranges but once a man has enough to be comfortable on just his income and could provide for a family etc in a 1950s style set up this becomes a real problem for the high earning woman, because she still has this expectation but now the percentage of men she is excluding on this basis is huge and any man in that income range also has a lot of value in the market because of the value that women place on money and status and as a result she will find herself priced out of the market.
If women are indeed thinking what you claim they are thinking i can only imagine that they believe that because of their own standards and expectations that it will translate into a higher status male partner but this just simply isn't the case as biology doesn't care about equality.
Yeah me don't care. Why women think that, well its because women DO care and they have this impression that the things that motivate women motivate men (which is not the case (same reason why I think guys send dick picks, because for them they are visual and seeing a naked woman turns them on so they think the same rules apply to women).
For men we are indifferent because we are the ones expected to take care of the woman, so her money is meaningless because we do not have access to it and don't want it (social conditioning as well as biological inclinations). I mean its not like its a bad thing to have, its not going to count against you (except in that most men know that the more money a woman makes the more money you need to make in order to keep her happy (statistically women only marry men who make more then them or the same as them). It can even be something that is impressive to him, but its not a deal maker or breaker, its just a trait you have (like if she is a gamer or not, if she is into fitness or not etc.).
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Who cares what they don’t care about? Get a degree and make money for you, not a man.
Besides, the ones who say that are a huge red flag anyway. Avoid.
Let me ask you a question. Do you care if a man has a certain degree or income?
@kingjodie who said career woman can't be a wife? Never heard such a law🤔
That makes sense. I wish more women had your mindset.
Wheres the romance? That sounds like the 90 year old married couple that sleeps in separate beds... and each pay their portion of the bills.
Thats like saying he never buys me flowers and its still romantic. Ok sure definitely could be. Doesn't seem like something to be proud of. Everyone knows its not sexy. Ie the old super unromantic married couple.
Thats fine. Just as the old married couple. If that works for them. But just as they might fully enjoy that life, its silly to think most people find that attractive. Just as its great that works for you, but its obviously not going to appeal to most people. Finances has been and still is a huge huge issue for most people to just say do it like friends do is not appealing to most people, obviously or vast amounts of women wouldn't fantasize about a man who takes care of them or sugar baby stuff. Obviously very common desires even for women who dont do it, many still fantasize about it just as men fantasize about taking care of a woman.
Yeah, everyone should find whatever works best for them. There are reasons why I the way I am. My mom went back and forth from working part time and being a stay at home mom. I saw how limited she was when she didn’t have her own money, and that affected us as well. When I grew up, I didn’t live in a wealthy area. There were no men around who even made enough to pay my bills even if they wanted to. And the few friends I had who did have boyfriends and husbands who paid their bills for them were still limited in their freedom. They had to get his permission to to go the movies. And I realized that if they ever had a falling out, they’d be kicked out in their ass with nothing because they were so dependent. I just never wanted to take that chance.
I mean I've never heard of such a thing. Usually i give her like allowance money to pay for stuff but ofc its minimal because i pay for literally everything. Its really romantic. Even if its an illusion. Its the same force thats behind the pimp ho relationship. Which is a huge huge factor. The whole reason they are in such a relationship is because those men and women essentially demand specific roles from the opposite sex because its so sexually arousing. Most hos would never look at a john as a mate because pays her. They look at a pimp romantically because he demands money from her but then is often responsible to pay for hotels and makeup and bills etc. Its his money. And this is a far more sexually attractive relationship than any john could ever provide. If you never did it you really got to try it. Even if you made all the money. Load up your mans bank account and give him a wad of cash and then demand he take responsibility for every little thing. Most women find it sexy to be take care and most men feel capable and desirable. And women are wired to find the man hotter if he has more power and most men are wired to find a woman who needs him hotter. It just builds up a lot. The secret is that once its in his pocket its 100% his to do anything he wants with it. Hopefully you have a responsible and romantic man who treats you amazing. Just think is it sexier to buy yourself a dress or for your man to buy you a dress? One is a chore and one is a gift.
I care about income and education degrees only in so much as that it tends to make things a bit easier in the job field... and I only care about her income in that if I lose my job, or can't find work (or I'm unable to work due to health issues or something like that), I need her to be able to at LEAST afford a life. Be able to eat, pay for some car upkeep, etc.
I would be frustrated if she did not work, continued to refuse to work (for years), AND didn't do much to contribute to "our" family success day in day out... if she's the stay at home mom, and she is capable of helping out, then she should help out - take care of any kids we might have, do the laundry or clean up a bit (I'd be doing that, too), but if she's just in bed all day watching TV or playing video games all the time... that's a problem.
If she has 20 jobs in 10 years because she's either getting fired or leaving because she starts fights or causes too many problems (and it isn't a "moral" issue or "legal" issue like she's trying to take down a crooked company), but she ends up earning 35K, I wouldn't date her.
If she hasn't been in the "job market" for ages, but she works her butt off to help others, and only makes 16K a year, and she has a strong sense of character, works well with others, her bosses sing her praises (even if it doesn't work out), that says more to me than that she doesn't make much money.
I'd like to think I judge potential and character more than her income... though income does matter somewhat (especially if mine isn't the greatest).
NO THEY DO NOT. This is the biggest difference between men and women on dating apps. Many women do not really get this point and it is very very important.
Many women practice hypergamy. In some ways it is in their nature. To preserve their family unit they seek a guy with as much resources as possible to start a family with and spread their seed with. Doctors and Lawyers and Finance guys are high targeted by many thirsty women even if they are only average looking.
Men are very different. They are biologically made to spread their seed with a woman who has physical characteristics for fertility. So on dating apps or at work or in society they are primarily looking at your breasts, your hips, your butt. Its biological. Its sexual attraction by nature. We as men do not initially care about how much money you make or your degree or where you work. It is purely your body and SEX.
We do start to care about those things when we start dating you. On that first date the differences are more balanced as we enjoy getting to know a woman and what she is about. But understand this. A man falls in love with your body first and then values everything that comes with it. Women fall in love with your status, resources, etc. first then everything that comes with it.
When I was younger, I used to care about that stuff. Not because I wanted a woman who would take care of me, but because I wanted a woman who was equal to me and just as ambitious as me.
I have a degree, I do freelance work, I work a full-time job, I own a couple of small businesses and I'm an investor. I've always wanted a woman who has the same principles as me when it comes to work and finances.
However, now at age 30, a degree and how much a woman makes is meaningless to me. A degree doesn't mean that a person will be successful and with all these student loan debts, a degree can be a massive setback.
What matters to me now is finding a woman who understands finances. I have met so many women who are spenders, don't know how to save money, make bad choices with me and have debt to their eyeballs. I want a woman who will be an asset to me financially -- someone who makes smart money decisions, someone who has their own money and won't depend on me for everything.
So it seems like your real question is "why are so many women under the impression that men care about their degrees and income?"
From what I can tell the reason seems to be projection.
It's what they want, and so they project it onto others without fully grasping that others can want entirely different things by their very nature. Men have their own version of it.
I think it comes from egalitarian thinking taught to us over the last two or three decades. When I think back to media and education from my childhood I feel like the attitude was always "be yourself" and that's about it. Only in adulthood do we begin to realise all the complexities that previous generations could have been priming us for. It was oversimplified for ideological reasons, and now we're paying the cost.
Having a degree is great and all, but you can see so many women expect it to mean something more. You'll notice many women ask something like "why can't I get a man", and then they'll include the education and career in their details about why they think they're supposed to be attractive and that's also why it's confusing for them.
They needed to be told that no one really gives a fuck about their career or education in that way much earlier -- I'm sure they would still take a similar path, but they wouldn't get to this point only now starting to figure things out... or not.
Boys needed the opposite, they needed someone to tell them "your success rides on your previous success, so get to fucking work kid!" Not until it's too late that they start to realise that education, career, skills, competency, resources, it's all going to count big time -- and the key is momentum, which should have been built up from an early age.
Well me personally , I am educated with one of the top undergraduate degrees one can obtain (economics). I have had girlfriends right threw teenage years up to now being degree educated.
I’m not concerned with women’s earnings , it’s more about personality. I find a lot of women who don’t have degrees become quite Insecure. The ability for us to form a bond is there fore restricted. They start to compare themselves to the man and may be get jealous if there accomplishments. I’ve even had women accuse me of thinking I am better than them. Or get quite nasty if I am enjoying life as a result of doing well in my education.
The extent to which a man who is degree educated and developed a career wants his woman to earn good money Varys. Because it depend on how much the guy earns. I mean if he earns 4 times the average wage then why would he care if she worked?
Also , do they have children. In my country it costs a lot of money to pay for babysitters. So the women could just work only to pay for babysitting fees. And also loose out on spending quality time with her child. So a lot of women choose to be a stay at home parent until the kid goes to school which does not cost any money.
I personally don’t care if the women makes x amount of money because if I love her that wouldn’t matter. I think personality matters more. Is she shallow? Is she only out for herself? Kind of things. Because when s*** hits the fan and you end up Poorly or loose your job will she still stay around?
No. Personally, and speaking for most of my male friends I know, we only care:
* is she faithful - no cheating, no lying;
* is she understanding - willing to understand that we also struggle even tough we often don't talk about it. And if and when we do, don't judge;
* is she a partner - will she commit to a lifelong plan and figure it out with us along the way?
* is she interested and interesting - not all people with an higher degree are interested in learning what life is all about.
Opposed to what the media will tell you nowadays, looks, body and status are secondary. A relationship is a team effort and if you're still looking at Chad, it won't work.
We want women that want to build something great together with us, as a team. If she works as a cashier, that's perfect, if she is a doctor, that's perfect as well... as long as she is a sweet and loving partner, I'll do my best to be so, and together build something worth looking back to.
Remember, the ideal is to build a home, not just a house... a home.
That entirely depends on what the guy is looking for. But for most decent men regardless of what they are looking for, a degree and job could be a plus point, as in one more good thing about the whole package that makes you.
Honestly, if a man only wants a woman for her degree and other achievements it's kind of a red flag because then it seems like he only cares about the status of being a modern man with an educated wife and he probably doesn't care a whole lot about you. I know that I myself don't want a man like that.
You want to be a housewife so for most men who also want a housewife they don't care if you have never been to university but if you have a degree then they can appreciate it. Some men worry about paying off student loans so you may wanna consider getting scholarships or going to a university with low tuition fees or entirely free education.
Men definitely care about your education and your career level once you get to the level of dating when it isn't just for a short term relationship. Short term meaning "anything less than marriage". Men under the age of 30 might not care as much about your education and career level because they want to have fun for now and yes they want you to pick up the bill. It will matter once you run into the men with the masters, PHD's, and high level Corporate jobs because they only want someone with at least a Bachelor's no high school diploma only, must be making close to their salary. So keep up your education and your career the right men will be there when the right time comes.
I think there's more that don't at least if they want children.
Yes.. If a man aspires to be rich!
A man who knows he can only achieve x wil want a partner to match him or earn more.
A man that leads a certain life and wants to maintain that without carrying someone, yes it matters to them.
A man who is wealthy through inheritance although there is a slim chance he might fall in love with someone not so well off he will want a woman who is able to adapt to his lifestyle.
It's not an easy road and their are requirements in terms of behaviour you know.
The world we live in today noone just looks after you for having a pretty face. You need to hold your own even if it's something.
So don't think of it as I must have this for this type of guy. Think about it as what do I want to contribute to society. What's my calling and where will that take me in life.
The right guy will match you, and the money situation will work itself out. I mean it has to really.
Women care so much about presenting themselves as solid earners because each sex thinks the other prioritizes what IT prioritizes. Thus you have women who think guys are looking for a solid earner, and men think women are looking for a musclebound hunk.
A woman who has lots of money is definitely not without its appeal; guys don't want gold-diggers. And a man who's in good shape has appeal; women don't want fat slobs. But a woman who puts all her time and energy into working isn't a plus any more than a guy who puts all his into working out.
I personally care a lot about my degree yes. As for how much money I make I don't care as long as I make enough to be able to support myself unless I needed to support a family then I would try everything to make very good money. I am still in school going for a BS in data science and hopefully should finish in about a year and a half. I care about my degree because I have spent so much time, money, and effort into school every semester after I transferred from community college. I like doing well in school because I want to learn more about my own potential in an educational environment and maybe one day learn about my potential in a work environment.
Because women care about a man's degree and they assume men feel the same way. That is why so many higher educated women get a rude awakening when they expect a highly educated man to want them. A highly educated man is attractive to a highly educated woman. And a highly educated man is even MORE attractive to a lesser educated women. Men have always been expected to be successful, men don't care about that and if a man can find a hotter, younger, funner, very appreciative girl, they will do for that. Now if she is highly educated he won't mind it at all. And today's men should not feel intimidated by a woman with a higher education and higher income. If he marries a woman like that he doesn't have to worry about getting taken to the cleaners if they divorce. So the best position a man can be in is to marry a MORE successful woman, but only if she checks all the other boxes.
Depends what men. There are plenty of different types, and some are kinda cray. Educated, liberal men generally care to an extent that a woman is educated to the same level as him, and if he is degree educated, he will probably care that she is ambitious enough to try to get a good job. It’s not just about the job, but what type of person she is and where she is socially. If she doesn’t care or is lazy and unmotivated about earning, she’ll probably also be lazy and unmotivated in other ways - unless her goal has always been motherhood, in which case those men wouldn’t be attracted to her anyway as they’d have different mindsets.
Not a bit. Even if a woman makes good money, we won't benefit from it, so we don't care about it. Women mostly want to "marry up," that is, they want to marry a man who makes more than she does. Women who make more than their men eventually come to resent that. So it does us no good. Plus, what we really care about is social and sexual chemistry. We really want to be attracted to a woman. In fact, we need to be deeply attracted if we're going to have sex with only one woman over a period of years. Plus, we need her to be someone we can stand, someone we actually enjoy being around. We'd rather be with a smoking hot, fun waitress than an unattractive CFO.
The reason women think men care about degree and career is that they're projecting their desires onto men. They think we care about the same stuff that they do, which isn't the case.
Out of all the men I've talked to this 2020... Only 3 cared 🤗🤗🤗. Lol 😆..
1) we ended up with only friend vibes for other reasons. He was also an executive director for the army
2) was a man I met through my divorce process—warehouse worker. We still hella vibe... But we can't do anything. Im now single, and well, he's not. So friend vibes
3) a separated man who is a physician assistant for the army. Now he's out on some mission thing
They found it super hot and I found it super hot that they did... Mind you this is prob 5% percent of men I chatted with that I found to be this way
They are rare, but they are usually super intellectual as well 🤷🏽♀️. I love thinkers.
Of course... But security isn't as important to us.. I'm speaking from my point of view... Her personality and believe it or not are compatibility in the bedroom. . and I'm not talking about making love I'm talking about having fun there's a difference and it's important to some of us... Women are more into the thought of making love until it gets boring and hopefully we provide something that breaks the boring and makes it fun... so degree and how much money she makes isn't most important but sure it's important you want your mate to be successful happy and extra money never hurts
I do but not to the extend, that i want to know actual numbers or exact titles but so that you can sustain your living like most of us do or even better like the middle class or above.
i do this so i can weed out the financial disaster type of women, which are the same women, that are sought after those same men, who don't care about women's accomplishments, academic degrees, Job title and their salaries.
it's a win-win situation. Career women for me and financial disaster women for them. (Hope they like bankruptcy 😝)
I only care if she can be completely financially independent and isn’t looking for a savior. She might be happy to be dating a guy who makes more money than her but she doesn’t NEED that.
A few years ago I dated a 25 yr old girl who made $18 an hour who was completely independent living in Southern California. She got no help from anybody and she worked in web design. She was very frugal.
I completely loved and respected her for that. She wasn’t looking to date guys for money but for a fair relationship.
Because the men who told you these things were (and most probably are) morons. Could you imagine an honest, mature and responsible person who seriously considers you for the long run NOT caring about your intelligence (official studies included ofc) and financial abilities? If you want to start a life with someone, shouldn't you know what kind of house/lifestyle/etc you should aspire for? That directly depends on your combined financial and educational abilities. In fact, the only men who don't care about such things are those looking for sex alone, or perhaps a trophy wife. Consider looking for worthy men rather than dim witted boys...
Oh, you want an 18th centurey marriage! Well no, you don't need an education or a job for that, you need just the kind of men I told you say these things: morons. And if that's what you wish for yourself than a moron is all you'll ever be worthy of. You're not pretty enough to be a trophy wife, so if I were you I'd give college another shot, clown 😂
Thanks for engaging in the comments, I really appreciate your time to share your opinions 😁. I like to think I’m quite beautiful and if my looks don’t suit your fancy I totally understand I’m not for everyone. I’d like to think one day the right man who understands me will be happy for me to be the homemaker I want to be. You don’t have to be attractive to be a housewife, but luckily I was blessed with Beauty and the skills to be so. But again I really appreciate your time!😊
Seriously? When did she say she wants to be a “trophy wife”? If you want a girl who attended Ivy League fine. No need to insult those who didn’t and say they aren’t smart enough.
There are plenty of options between Ivy League and "I live in the 18-hundreds and want men to support me financially while I stay at home and they see the kids mostly on weekends".
We don't. Whether you're rich, poor, educated or drop-out, most of the time it's not going to make a difference. Sure, you having a high income is not going to be a turn-off, it's just not going to increase your appeal to us.
If you're attractive, kind, caring and fun to be around, then 99 % of us aren't going to give a shit about your career or education.
The only reason it would actually be a TURN-OFF, however, is if you're career-oriented to the point where it impacts the amount of time and effort you can put into a relationship. While it's not the case for the majority of successful women, I have seen a few who basically only treat their partner as someone they can come home to and fuck after a stressful day. If that's all you offer in a relationship, then none of us are going to be happy.
Some guys care about your earning potential. Most don't care about your degree. I know for me, I could casually date a woman who doesn't have a degree or a high paying job as long as she's hot and not a cunt. But I wouldn't commit to such a woman. She's gotta be able to get a good-paying job for commitment-level relationship. Still, a good paying job is no substitute for good looks and a relationship-oriented personality. Unless she's filthy rich, like that old-money type shit. Then it's a substitute.
I find guys do care or at least I’ve found that in the guys I’ve dated and it’s what has made me not want to date anymore. Though they weren’t brought up the way I was.
I grew up in a poor family and I’ve gone through a lot of traumatic things which I never really spoke about and it made me struggle to make friends, get good grades and so on.
My family can’t afford to pay for us to go to study further anyway and taking a loan isn’t an option because where I come from, I’d be paying it back until my deathbed. Being a white person where I live, makes finding a job hard snd if I got a job, the pay is shit and I can hardly survive from that pay.
My education and amount of money I have doesn’t change who I am as a person.
I do hope that when I meet someone that he doesn’t reject me because I haven’t studied further or that I don’t have the greatest paying job.
A degree doesn’t always equal money. That being said, a woman with a degree means (even if it doesn’t bring her a ton of money) shows some level of drive/commitment, which men will find attractive.
This can also be true of someone who works a not-so-fancy job, but makes a ton of money. Still showing drive, but towards money.
At the end of the day it really just depends on the guy.
I think that's the same reason many I fnot most women see ambition as attractive. Its hsies he's hard working and doesn't quit easily. It's not so much about money, no woman wants to be that dependent.
Crikey my keypad didn't like that, but hopefully you caught what I meant.
I totally did!
And yes, it’s not all about the material worth. Ita also about having that ambition and purpose like you said.
Women and men aren’t so different after all.
I completely agree! Youth is wasted on the young hey lol.
I think money matters more to women then men.
men love spending the hard money they earn.
women love spending hard earned money men earned.
men usually have a harder time finding love so they'll usually find and keep any girl that fits their criteria.
women usually have lots of men at their feet so they have options to settle for the average Joe or wait for a rich guy to come along.
wealthy women aren't usually looking for sugar babies, well some are but not compared to men having a young 18yo or any woman to spoil.
so to answer your question no. men usually don't care
women care and wait for Mr. perfect aka rich
No sorry money matters quite a bit to men.
Fundamentally no.
Brain power, common sense, the intellectual ability to keep up with me and not take my bs are important. I'd end up breaking her otherwise. But academia is up to her.
Money. I aspired to living the double income life, as royalty, but never relied on it and turns out my choice's special interest is kids...
I don't believe this fascination with university and money is driven by desire for it by men. I think women are encouraging themselves to be successful, compete with men, smash that glass ceiling. You'll have to decide why for yourself and whether it's ultimately worth it.
I’m aware that people don’t care about my education and job.
I work, and support myself and I can hold a good conversation, regardless of subject, so on a first meeting or getting to know basis, the details like degree/earning capacity doesn’t seem important.
I think men are only concerned when a woman wants to know all their details, and whether he has a house and car, when they are not working themselves.
Not really but there is sort of a desirable ranking for women brains but most guys care more about looks than brains.
So a high earning guy with a mansion and his own tech company is unlikely going to marry a high-school drop out girl. Even if he did, it's certainly not for her brains.
However, an average Joe would prefer his wife to be not an idiot. Having a degree and having a decent wage is a very good indicator of that person isn't completely moronic.
"if this is true, why are so many women under the impression that men care about their degrees and income?"
Projection. Women care about career, finances, social status and ressources in a man. Thus they assume men care as much about it in women - which is utterly wrong. Essentially these women openly say they lack empathy and understanding of men.
Maybe or maybe women just want to make sure they can take care of themselves when you decide to cheat. Most guys on here want nothing more than to see women penniless.
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Ok bud
Well have you seen what a lot of guys say on here? Mean what you say say what you mean. That usually cuts down on any confusion.
I’m not Irish.
Also numb nuts I know plenty of guys who only care about money.
I do care because that´s an important of her life. I wanna know what she´s working at and I wanna be told about her work if she likes to talk. I don´t make her do so, but I´m generally interested in such things even more than how much money she actually with it.
Well I can't speak for all guys, but I disagree with the original statement to some extent.
I care that a woman is reasonably independent and able to take care of herself. I generally don't care how she's doing it (unless it's something that I am morally against), as long as she is pursuing some genuine interests of her own. I've dealt with women who are unmotivated and going nowhere and/or dependent on a partner, and long story short, never again.
I do care about what degrees she may have, and how much money she makes. However, that is not a priority, it's more of an indicator, among others, as to what she is like, what her intellectual pursuits are, what types of things she is interested in, how ambitious she is, what she likes to do, etc.
I find guys care about both your degree and your income but your degree is more important cause it’s permanent while your income might be higher or lower from one year to the next. A guy who does not care about your income or your degree will probably be too focused on looks to make a high quality boyfriend or husband.
Couldn't care less. As long as she's not lazy I don't care what degree she has or how much money she makes. She can work at McD's for minimum wage, or work as an executive for six figures and I don't care. She can be a school dropout in the 8th grade, or have a PhD. It doesn't matter to me.
Depends on many factors.
If she's going to be a housewife, then it doesn't matter what degree she has. If she's just a fling, then it's of no concern either.
But if she's an earner, then you need to have some concerns to ensue you both are in the right tax bracket and your finances are in order.
I care about her not being an idiot and not having a degree or having one doesn't mean you are or aren't. As long as she has a job, preferably not a simple minimum wage job (eg. Flipping burgers or working as a cashier), and she either enjoys it or make a decent income so she can do what she enjoys I'm fine with it.
It's not true that we don't care at all- it's a plus if you're interested in something long term with her if she makes at least decent money. That said, I'm more concerned with her spending and saving habits because a spendthrift isn't going to have money left at the end of the month no matter how much she earns.
No, that is complete BS. It would be unusual for a male to ask his squeeze how much she makes. If he doesn't have enough smarts to determine your approximate income from your clothing, vehicle, jewelry, and other possessions then he is rather dull and should be dumped.
A man cares about a women who takes care of him and his family and you being one amongst his family.
Degree and income are secondary, but apart from a well educated Wife /women who has a loving attitude money doesn't matter maybe beauty could be an altering factor but not money
feminism lied to women. When I marry a girl, she’s gon b pregnant for a solid decade so I’m prepared to provide. What matters is shared values and trustworthiness, high moral character, and ofc looks and health
I care but I don’t care about her using her degree towards something if she doesn’t want to. But to say yeah I graduated with a bachelors or honours or masters shows me she worked hard to obtain it. A girl should be able to hold down her own when it comes to the economy and geopolitical issues.
I don't care about her job or degree. I respect her intelligence or education but I also don't care if she has one, other than basic stuff.
Would a girl care if her boyfriend worked construction instead of worked in an office? Maybe some of them would but most guys in construction have girlfriends too.
It is not their money we are after. If women thing otherwise it is probably because they expect men to motivated by the same things women seek in a partner. Likely that is why the successful 30 year old attorney in a law firm thinks she deserves a higher quality man then the pretty 19 year old filing clerk that works in her office. Of course, 11 times out of 10 the high quality men that she is attracted to will chose the pretty 19 year old over her.
I just want to take care of my girl, so as long as she's making less than me, I'm not discontent, but honestly, the less she makes the more I can provide for her. And it makes me feel good to provide for her.
This is totally true.
Its because women identify more with women than men. If a strange man online tells a girl this she won't listen but when another girl says "trust me girl this is necessary or men will treat you bad" or not want you or whatever thats what they trust.
Yes women typically listen and follow men but not ones they don't know. And for some reason dads are dropping the fucking ball here because they should be teaching their daughters this shit.
not at all. i think college is making people stupider in many cases now. plus if she makes too much money she might be so career focused she won't want to stay home with the kids which is a huge NO
so in a weird indirect way... less is best? at least until the kids are a little older
I think some men do. Unfortunately I feel like most men don’t like it when you are wealthier and have a better job then they do. So it can be frustrating dating when you are a rich bitch sometimes LOL 😂
A woman needs a degree like a fish needs a bicycle.
As long as she actually is intelligent, I couldn't care about school/education less.
Money shouldn't be a problem, ever, unless the guy can't keep a family by himself, then it might actually be important that she can help here and there as well.
I think that knowing how to spend your money means a lot more than getting a ton of money. If you make $3k and waste $2.9k every month, you're losing more than someone that gets just $2.5k and uses $2k 🤷🏻♂️
Well I have 1 degree and working on my second one. I’ve never had a guy care about my degrees at all. They mostly ask when I’m going to finish school and what my current job is not my career.
Because it's a lie told by feminist who don't want men and women to be together. They want to cause rifts and separations between men and women. While a woman is going out after her degree a Man is marrying the woman who is not. No man wants to marry the college girl who sleeps around.
"I’ve been told by many men that men actually don’t care about a woman’s degree or how much she makes. I’ve heard “the only man that cares about how much a woman makes is a man who wants you to financially take care of them”"
Yes, this ^ 100% true. I don't know why it seems women have a hard time understanding that men value different things in women than women value in men.
I'm disabled so I have an excuse, but I cared about women's income and intelligence before I was disabled. I prefer intelligent woman and I prefer someone in a scientific field.
We do, it makes a big difference, but it isn't the thing that any man who also makes money would use as his primary indicator for interest.
Well, let me correct myself - some probably will, but that is highly individual.
It only starts to make a difference once the physical liking is established.
It's a false stereotype - macho man smash when woman outperforms him in his own domain. It hasn't really been true since maybe the 70's, but the stereotype lives.
Not so much on degree, but they'll care about the money.
Gold diggers are everywhere, regardless of gender.
Men don't care about it. I never heard of any girl trying to get a degree to be suitable for men.
We care about it only because women have weaponized the legal system to the point that you can take everything WE have. We think there is a slightly lower chance of you doing this if you make your own money, but we are usually wrong about this. Smart men won't live with you or marry you.
Men aren't all connected to a singular hive mind, but in this day in age, no one doesn't appreciate an educated person.
Some men do care because they dont want to look like the beta in the relationship. For me, I dont care if they have a higher GPA/came from a more prestigious university/earn more money than me.
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