We don't. Whether you're rich, poor, educated or drop-out, most of the time it's not going to make a difference. Sure, you having a high income is not going to be a turn-off, it's just not going to increase your appeal to us. If you're attractive, kind, caring and fun to be around, then 99 % of us aren't going to give a shit about your career or education. The only reason it would actually be a TURN-OFF, however, is if you're career-oriented to the point where it impacts the amount of time and effort you can put into a relationship. While it's not the case for the majority of successful women, I have seen a few who basically only treat their partner as someone they can come home to and fuck after a stressful day. If that's all you offer in a relationship, then none of us are going to be happy.
Some guys care about your earning potential. Most don't care about your degree. I know for me, I could casually date a woman who doesn't have a degree or a high paying job as long as she's hot and not a cunt. But I wouldn't commit to such a woman. She's gotta be able to get a good-paying job for commitment-level relationship. Still, a good paying job is no substitute for good looks and a relationship-oriented personality. Unless she's filthy rich, like that old-money type shit. Then it's a substitute.
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I find guys do care or at least I’ve found that in the guys I’ve dated and it’s what has made me not want to date anymore. Though they weren’t brought up the way I was. I grew up in a poor family and I’ve gone through a lot of traumatic things which I never really spoke about and it made me struggle to make friends, get good grades and so on. My family can’t afford to pay for us to go to study further anyway and taking a loan isn’t an option because where I come from, I’d be paying it back until my deathbed. Being a white person where I live, makes finding a job hard snd if I got a job, the pay is shit and I can hardly survive from that pay. My education and amount of money I have doesn’t change who I am as a person. I do hope that when I meet someone that he doesn’t reject me because I haven’t studied further or that I don’t have the greatest paying job.
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Fundamentally no. Brain power, common sense, the intellectual ability to keep up with me and not take my bs are important. I'd end up breaking her otherwise. But academia is up to her. Money. I aspired to living the double income life, as royalty, but never relied on it and turns out my choice's special interest is kids... I don't believe this fascination with university and money is driven by desire for it by men. I think women are encouraging themselves to be successful, compete with men, smash that glass ceiling. You'll have to decide why for yourself and whether it's ultimately worth it.
A degree doesn’t always equal money. That being said, a woman with a degree means (even if it doesn’t bring her a ton of money) shows some level of drive/commitment, which men will find attractive. This can also be true of someone who works a not-so-fancy job, but makes a ton of money. Still showing drive, but towards money. At the end of the day it really just depends on the guy.
I think that's the same reason many I fnot most women see ambition as attractive. Its hsies he's hard working and doesn't quit easily. It's not so much about money, no woman wants to be that dependent.
I totally did! And yes, it’s not all about the material worth. Ita also about having that ambition and purpose like you said. Women and men aren’t so different after all.
I think money matters more to women then men. men love spending the hard money they earn. women love spending hard earned money men earned. men usually have a harder time finding love so they'll usually find and keep any girl that fits their criteria. women usually have lots of men at their feet so they have options to settle for the average Joe or wait for a rich guy to come along. wealthy women aren't usually looking for sugar babies, well some are but not compared to men having a young 18yo or any woman to spoil. so to answer your question no. men usually don't care women care and wait for Mr. perfect aka rich
I’m aware that people don’t care about my education and job. I work, and support myself and I can hold a good conversation, regardless of subject, so on a first meeting or getting to know basis, the details like degree/earning capacity doesn’t seem important.
I think men are only concerned when a woman wants to know all their details, and whether he has a house and car, when they are not working themselves.
Not really but there is sort of a desirable ranking for women brains but most guys care more about looks than brains.
So a high earning guy with a mansion and his own tech company is unlikely going to marry a high-school drop out girl. Even if he did, it's certainly not for her brains.
However, an average Joe would prefer his wife to be not an idiot. Having a degree and having a decent wage is a very good indicator of that person isn't completely moronic.
No, but it's like an indication of not being stupid.
For example, you are hiring someone and his record shows he was convicted of a crime. It doesn't mean that he is violent or evil. It just means that he is more likely going to be so.
"if this is true, why are so many women under the impression that men care about their degrees and income?" Projection. Women care about career, finances, social status and ressources in a man. Thus they assume men care as much about it in women - which is utterly wrong. Essentially these women openly say they lack empathy and understanding of men.
Maybe or maybe women just want to make sure they can take care of themselves when you decide to cheat. Most guys on here want nothing more than to see women penniless.
I do care because that´s an important of her life. I wanna know what she´s working at and I wanna be told about her work if she likes to talk. I don´t make her do so, but I´m generally interested in such things even more than how much money she actually with it.
Well I can't speak for all guys, but I disagree with the original statement to some extent.
I care that a woman is reasonably independent and able to take care of herself. I generally don't care how she's doing it (unless it's something that I am morally against), as long as she is pursuing some genuine interests of her own. I've dealt with women who are unmotivated and going nowhere and/or dependent on a partner, and long story short, never again.
I do care about what degrees she may have, and how much money she makes. However, that is not a priority, it's more of an indicator, among others, as to what she is like, what her intellectual pursuits are, what types of things she is interested in, how ambitious she is, what she likes to do, etc.
I find guys care about both your degree and your income but your degree is more important cause it’s permanent while your income might be higher or lower from one year to the next. A guy who does not care about your income or your degree will probably be too focused on looks to make a high quality boyfriend or husband.
Couldn't care less. As long as she's not lazy I don't care what degree she has or how much money she makes. She can work at McD's for minimum wage, or work as an executive for six figures and I don't care. She can be a school dropout in the 8th grade, or have a PhD. It doesn't matter to me.
I care about her not being an idiot and not having a degree or having one doesn't mean you are or aren't. As long as she has a job, preferably not a simple minimum wage job (eg. Flipping burgers or working as a cashier), and she either enjoys it or make a decent income so she can do what she enjoys I'm fine with it.
It's not true that we don't care at all- it's a plus if you're interested in something long term with her if she makes at least decent money. That said, I'm more concerned with her spending and saving habits because a spendthrift isn't going to have money left at the end of the month no matter how much she earns.
No, that is complete BS. It would be unusual for a male to ask his squeeze how much she makes. If he doesn't have enough smarts to determine your approximate income from your clothing, vehicle, jewelry, and other possessions then he is rather dull and should be dumped.
A man cares about a women who takes care of him and his family and you being one amongst his family.
Degree and income are secondary, but apart from a well educated Wife /women who has a loving attitude money doesn't matter maybe beauty could be an altering factor but not money
I care but I don’t care about her using her degree towards something if she doesn’t want to. But to say yeah I graduated with a bachelors or honours or masters shows me she worked hard to obtain it. A girl should be able to hold down her own when it comes to the economy and geopolitical issues.
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We don't. Whether you're rich, poor, educated or drop-out, most of the time it's not going to make a difference. Sure, you having a high income is not going to be a turn-off, it's just not going to increase your appeal to us.
If you're attractive, kind, caring and fun to be around, then 99 % of us aren't going to give a shit about your career or education.
The only reason it would actually be a TURN-OFF, however, is if you're career-oriented to the point where it impacts the amount of time and effort you can put into a relationship. While it's not the case for the majority of successful women, I have seen a few who basically only treat their partner as someone they can come home to and fuck after a stressful day. If that's all you offer in a relationship, then none of us are going to be happy.
Some guys care about your earning potential. Most don't care about your degree. I know for me, I could casually date a woman who doesn't have a degree or a high paying job as long as she's hot and not a cunt. But I wouldn't commit to such a woman. She's gotta be able to get a good-paying job for commitment-level relationship. Still, a good paying job is no substitute for good looks and a relationship-oriented personality. Unless she's filthy rich, like that old-money type shit. Then it's a substitute.
I find guys do care or at least I’ve found that in the guys I’ve dated and it’s what has made me not want to date anymore. Though they weren’t brought up the way I was.
I grew up in a poor family and I’ve gone through a lot of traumatic things which I never really spoke about and it made me struggle to make friends, get good grades and so on.
My family can’t afford to pay for us to go to study further anyway and taking a loan isn’t an option because where I come from, I’d be paying it back until my deathbed. Being a white person where I live, makes finding a job hard snd if I got a job, the pay is shit and I can hardly survive from that pay.
My education and amount of money I have doesn’t change who I am as a person.
I do hope that when I meet someone that he doesn’t reject me because I haven’t studied further or that I don’t have the greatest paying job.
Fundamentally no.
Brain power, common sense, the intellectual ability to keep up with me and not take my bs are important. I'd end up breaking her otherwise. But academia is up to her.
Money. I aspired to living the double income life, as royalty, but never relied on it and turns out my choice's special interest is kids...
I don't believe this fascination with university and money is driven by desire for it by men. I think women are encouraging themselves to be successful, compete with men, smash that glass ceiling. You'll have to decide why for yourself and whether it's ultimately worth it.
A degree doesn’t always equal money. That being said, a woman with a degree means (even if it doesn’t bring her a ton of money) shows some level of drive/commitment, which men will find attractive.
This can also be true of someone who works a not-so-fancy job, but makes a ton of money. Still showing drive, but towards money.
At the end of the day it really just depends on the guy.
I think that's the same reason many I fnot most women see ambition as attractive. Its hsies he's hard working and doesn't quit easily. It's not so much about money, no woman wants to be that dependent.
Crikey my keypad didn't like that, but hopefully you caught what I meant.
I totally did!
And yes, it’s not all about the material worth. Ita also about having that ambition and purpose like you said.
Women and men aren’t so different after all.
I completely agree! Youth is wasted on the young hey lol.
I think money matters more to women then men.
men love spending the hard money they earn.
women love spending hard earned money men earned.
men usually have a harder time finding love so they'll usually find and keep any girl that fits their criteria.
women usually have lots of men at their feet so they have options to settle for the average Joe or wait for a rich guy to come along.
wealthy women aren't usually looking for sugar babies, well some are but not compared to men having a young 18yo or any woman to spoil.
so to answer your question no. men usually don't care
women care and wait for Mr. perfect aka rich
No sorry money matters quite a bit to men.
I’m aware that people don’t care about my education and job.
I work, and support myself and I can hold a good conversation, regardless of subject, so on a first meeting or getting to know basis, the details like degree/earning capacity doesn’t seem important.
I think men are only concerned when a woman wants to know all their details, and whether he has a house and car, when they are not working themselves.
Not really but there is sort of a desirable ranking for women brains but most guys care more about looks than brains.
So a high earning guy with a mansion and his own tech company is unlikely going to marry a high-school drop out girl. Even if he did, it's certainly not for her brains.
However, an average Joe would prefer his wife to be not an idiot. Having a degree and having a decent wage is a very good indicator of that person isn't completely moronic.
A degree doesn’t make you smart love
No, but it's like an indication of not being stupid.
For example, you are hiring someone and his record shows he was convicted of a crime. It doesn't mean that he is violent or evil. It just means that he is more likely going to be so.
"if this is true, why are so many women under the impression that men care about their degrees and income?"
Projection. Women care about career, finances, social status and ressources in a man. Thus they assume men care as much about it in women - which is utterly wrong. Essentially these women openly say they lack empathy and understanding of men.
Maybe or maybe women just want to make sure they can take care of themselves when you decide to cheat. Most guys on here want nothing more than to see women penniless.
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Well have you seen what a lot of guys say on here? Mean what you say say what you mean. That usually cuts down on any confusion.
I’m not Irish.
Also numb nuts I know plenty of guys who only care about money.
I do care because that´s an important of her life. I wanna know what she´s working at and I wanna be told about her work if she likes to talk. I don´t make her do so, but I´m generally interested in such things even more than how much money she actually with it.
Well I can't speak for all guys, but I disagree with the original statement to some extent.
I care that a woman is reasonably independent and able to take care of herself. I generally don't care how she's doing it (unless it's something that I am morally against), as long as she is pursuing some genuine interests of her own. I've dealt with women who are unmotivated and going nowhere and/or dependent on a partner, and long story short, never again.
I do care about what degrees she may have, and how much money she makes. However, that is not a priority, it's more of an indicator, among others, as to what she is like, what her intellectual pursuits are, what types of things she is interested in, how ambitious she is, what she likes to do, etc.
I find guys care about both your degree and your income but your degree is more important cause it’s permanent while your income might be higher or lower from one year to the next. A guy who does not care about your income or your degree will probably be too focused on looks to make a high quality boyfriend or husband.
Couldn't care less. As long as she's not lazy I don't care what degree she has or how much money she makes. She can work at McD's for minimum wage, or work as an executive for six figures and I don't care. She can be a school dropout in the 8th grade, or have a PhD. It doesn't matter to me.
Depends on many factors.
If she's going to be a housewife, then it doesn't matter what degree she has. If she's just a fling, then it's of no concern either.
But if she's an earner, then you need to have some concerns to ensue you both are in the right tax bracket and your finances are in order.
I care about her not being an idiot and not having a degree or having one doesn't mean you are or aren't. As long as she has a job, preferably not a simple minimum wage job (eg. Flipping burgers or working as a cashier), and she either enjoys it or make a decent income so she can do what she enjoys I'm fine with it.
It's not true that we don't care at all- it's a plus if you're interested in something long term with her if she makes at least decent money. That said, I'm more concerned with her spending and saving habits because a spendthrift isn't going to have money left at the end of the month no matter how much she earns.
No, that is complete BS. It would be unusual for a male to ask his squeeze how much she makes. If he doesn't have enough smarts to determine your approximate income from your clothing, vehicle, jewelry, and other possessions then he is rather dull and should be dumped.
A man cares about a women who takes care of him and his family and you being one amongst his family.
Degree and income are secondary, but apart from a well educated Wife /women who has a loving attitude money doesn't matter maybe beauty could be an altering factor but not money
I care but I don’t care about her using her degree towards something if she doesn’t want to. But to say yeah I graduated with a bachelors or honours or masters shows me she worked hard to obtain it. A girl should be able to hold down her own when it comes to the economy and geopolitical issues.