Is it murder if the person knowingly gets shit faced and asks to you kill them? Yes it is. if someone isn’t conscious and sober you shouldn’t participate.
Finally. Someone with some common sense. I in no way believe any court would conclude having sex with an unconscious person doesn’t constitute rape either.
A workmate of mine had a one night stand with a girl that's all he thought it was 2 days later he was arrested for rape released 24hrs later no charges. She told him she would get him charged with rape because she wanted relationship he didn't. Woman have this power but mud sticks and he's now looked in as a rapist. How people have drunken casual sex I dont know single parents on welfare everywhere because of drunken casual sex
"The issue in part III is the meaning of section 609.341, subdivision 7, of the Minnesota Statutes, which defines the term “mentally incapacitated” to mean, for purposes of criminal-sexual-conduct crimes, “that a person under the influence of alcohol, a narcotic, anesthetic, or any other substance, administered to that person without the person’s agreement, lacks the judgment to give a reasoned consent to sexual contact or sexual penetration.” Minn. Stat. § 609.341, subd. 7 (2016)"
", administered to that person without the person’s agreement". Time to urgently update the law.
According to Dr. Mary Koss—a scientist, feminist, and acclaimed expert on the subject of campus sexual assault, one definition of rape is having sex after having alcohol or drugs. That is one the primary definitions used by her and accepted by the media to claim that 25% of college girls are raped. When the definition of rape is using force to sexually penetrate on an unwilling female then there is one rape each year for every two college campuses.
The poll does not just fit the question or the description. Option A says Oh yeah! She wants it! Option B says Hell no, that's awful! The first part of both options fit the question while the last part of both options fit the description. If a person is drunk they can not legally consent since they are under the influence of alcohol. Anyone who has sex with someone who is drunk can be arrested for rape.
I'm not sure, I might consider it technically non-consensual if she got blacked out and someone also did sexual activity to her while she was blacked out. But let's not kid ourselves about corruption, the definition of rape or harassment has become too broad to the point that flirting in some places fall under the definition.
How about you tell us what they really ruled. Better yet, link to it. That way people can have an opinion about it instead of responding to your obviously twisted version of it.
No. The only thing that you should do with a drunk person is make sure that they are ok. I've seen this story and it's horrific. I can not get my head around what would be so good about doing this to someone who can not respond.
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can't wait see the 45+ year old men and the woman hating men to charge this post and victim blame🙄
It is rape. Because being passed out is not a "heyy, please fuck me".
Is it murder if the person knowingly gets shit faced and asks to you kill them? Yes it is.
if someone isn’t conscious and sober you shouldn’t participate.
If someobe is unconscious just call 911 and run the fuck out of there or make them awake book a cab send them home.
Or just move on who knows where her mouth had been lol or what STDs she has you are risking your life as well.
And its absolutely even wrong Morally!!!
Name the specific element of the case on which you base your conclusion. Otherwise you haven't said anything.
Every case is different and depends on the specific evidence.
I don't believe that any court would classify having sex with a woman who was not conscious as not being rape. So you need to be more specific.
Finally. Someone with some common sense. I in no way believe any court would conclude having sex with an unconscious person doesn’t constitute rape either.
A workmate of mine had a one night stand with a girl that's all he thought it was 2 days later he was arrested for rape released 24hrs later no charges. She told him she would get him charged with rape because she wanted relationship he didn't. Woman have this power but mud sticks and he's now looked in as a rapist. How people have drunken casual sex I dont know single parents on welfare everywhere because of drunken casual sex
I think it's already going too far, when you have to ask it.
Good point.
What the fuck? Getting drunk does not mean giving consent. In fact, it is impossible to give consent while intoxicated. Yes it's still rape
You can’t legally consent when you’re drunk. Willingly blacked out or not.
I hope the news is reading too much into the Minnesota ruling... cuz they have different ideas.
The dissent does look reasonable;
"The issue in part III is the meaning of section 609.341, subdivision 7, of the Minnesota Statutes, which defines the term “mentally incapacitated” to mean, for purposes of criminal-sexual-conduct crimes, “that a person under the influence of alcohol, a narcotic,
anesthetic, or any other substance, administered to that person without the person’s agreement, lacks the judgment to give a reasoned consent to sexual contact or sexual
penetration.” Minn. Stat. § 609.341, subd. 7 (2016)"
", administered to that person without the person’s agreement".
Time to urgently update the law.
mn.gov/.../OPa191281-072720%20Revised2.pdf
According to Dr. Mary Koss—a scientist, feminist, and acclaimed expert on the subject of campus sexual assault, one definition of rape is having sex after having alcohol or drugs. That is one the primary definitions used by her and accepted by the media to claim that 25% of college girls are raped. When the definition of rape is using force to sexually penetrate on an unwilling female then there is one rape each year for every two college campuses.
if she doesn't say NO is it rape? maybe she is moaning yes? you can't ask her, she was too drunk to remember
So keep your hands off right?
I would, I think drunks are disgusting and they small bad
Smell Bad
hopefully thats not the only reason
No, it's Awful... I would never even want to fuck a drunk Chick
The poll does not just fit the question or the description.
Option A says Oh yeah! She wants it!
Option B says Hell no, that's awful!
The first part of both options fit the question while the last part of both options fit the description.
If a person is drunk they can not legally consent since they are under the influence of alcohol. Anyone who has sex with someone who is drunk can be arrested for rape.
If she is passed out, she didn't consent and therefore it is rape.
With the same logic it must be legal to kill, rob and beat passed out people.
I'm not sure, I might consider it technically non-consensual if she got blacked out and someone also did sexual activity to her while she was blacked out. But let's not kid ourselves about corruption, the definition of rape or harassment has become too broad to the point that flirting in some places fall under the definition.
The guys saying it isn’t rape are the same ones that would cry rape when another dude fucks them in the ass.
How about you tell us what they really ruled. Better yet, link to it. That way people can have an opinion about it instead of responding to your obviously twisted version of it.
Pretty sure you can google it yourself.
You are claiming that a court ruled that she "deserves to get raped". Do I really need to look this up?
In truth, they didn't rule at all whether she was raped or not. They only ruled on jury instructions, which MAY HAVE influenced the ruling.
No.
The only thing that you should do with a drunk person is make sure that they are ok.
I've seen this story and it's horrific.
I can not get my head around what would be so good about doing this to someone who can not respond.
Absolutely. Sorry but drunk folks literally cannot consent because they’re literally in an altered state of mind, or are even unconscious.
Doesn't matter what she is in. If she doesn't consent. It's considered RAPE.
PERIOD!