All brown people are for farming/yards and don't pay taxes
I know there are WAY more stereotypes and cultures out there, but it doesn't seem like any of this has been so... stark except in the last year. So am I just ignorant, or is this something new and insidious?
Racism The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.As another example, white people protesting against white people on racism... Source Guardian
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Thank you for the input everyone, I hope we can all keep talking, even if we disagree, rather than shutting that down before it even starts.
Are you disgusted by a race being assigned an identity?
You know what... people tend to think that whatever your race is defines who you are in life. I refuse to accept that just because I'm female and I like to have this kind of sex and my skin id this color and the shape of my face and what my eyes look like define me.
I will not allow someone other than myself to be who I am... Yes, stereotypes and expectations have a huge impact on how we feel we should behave and know our place. Yet the rebel in me just will not allow me to cave in to what others want me to be. I have two middle fingers up for anyone who tries to pigeonhole me.
I am a human being, just like every other human on this planet and I demand to be treated as just that... Human. That is all that should matter... not my gender, race, political shit, religion or even what kind of sex I enjoy. I'm just as Human as you are... treat me as you wish to be treated... That is all I ask.
it's destroying civilization entirely. Yes. It's telling races that they will never be good enough under the disguise of "social justice" when in reality it's nothing but showing peoples true colors.
Disgusted? No. Racism is due to a result of the way we think. We deal with thousands if not millions of stimuli everyday. This amount of information cannot be sorted individually, our brains donāt have enough processing power so we group things together for ease of recall and to categorize information. When it comes to human behavior this can understandably result in racism āI didnāt rob and murder someone, that person did. Why? What notable characteristics are there about that person so I can avoid being robbed and killed?ā Etc for these reasons it requires us to act in an unnatural way and treat people as individuals. This isnāt easy, but I think itās just. And thatās what our society should be based on.
I get that our brains do sort information and generalizations that way. I heard somewhere that after like 50 people you start "typing" them. Anyway, statistics aren't an identity, the conclusions and assumptions drawn from them are. Like saying black people are responsible for 52% of murders while being 13% of the population is fact, also that it's typically the same people committing crimes over and over again. Bring back the death penalty, that number will drop. No conclusion to draw, and I fail to see any conclusions about the black community there, just how to remove that 52% of murders, which is highly concentrated. It would remove the bad apples from every cart that are caught knifing, shooting, or strangling.
Denying black people opportunities from those numbers because "all black people commit crime" would be assigning an identity and a racist assumption, it is very few people committing a massive amount of crime.
Absolutely, all races of people are obsessed with stereotypes these days. It's easier to blame entire races of people for your problems than it is to improve your life.
That's one of the things I'm observing, especially online, like questions on here. Seems a lot of people are buying into the narratives and just giving up before they even start trying.
Yes, I've seen that here before too. Asian guys that won't date anyone because of porn stereotypes. Black women who want to be white because they want to be "Normal." White women who are arrogant and think 80% of all men on earth prefer her to other races. Black guys who think they are superior. There's just endless racial stereotypes that hold people back from enjoying their lives as individuals.
Well the internet is partially the blame. There's so much negativity and divisiveness online that I swear people of different races are actually less accepting of each other now than they were in the late 90's, early 2000's. There's more racial tension now than there was back then in my opinion. The internet is a very effective platform for people to spread Stereotypes, hate, divisiveness and a victim mentality to the youth.
I'd have to agree with you there. Like the KKK was still around in my area, but no one took them seriously, kind of like the elk lodge, but an elk lodge no one wants to be friends with except other members of their lodge.
Then as internet became faster, suddenly a lot of white kids around me were starting to become skins, black kids with scholarships were acting ghetto, causing a few to get arrested over stupid shit and lose those scholarships, it was on a microcosm level what you're describing, racial tension started that wasn't there before.
I mean, I was a middle man, so I only cared about money, the change it made to me was simply selling to them at different times and places. I never thought of it from that perspective though, that more communication would lead to greater tribalism rather than less. Thinking it through many different ways I keep coming to the same conclusion though, you're likely right.
Yes, it's amazing how the internet's been used to inflame tensions and organize various groups from terrorists to rioters and every other type of extremist. The internet is a tool for angry people to connect and spread their anger. The internet is full of racism towards every race to the point where it actually causes people who used to be open-minded to revert to tribalism. It's not always good to be exposed to people's nasty thoughts online and it does have an influence. Going online and being racially degraded, stereotyped or witnessing it can turn a sensitive person into a hateful person no matter what color you are.
I believe that we are all the same and feel that no one and no race has the right to declare themselves superior over another human. I do however witness a lot of those stereotypes fitting by certain races. But just because a lot of blacks commit crime doesn't mean they all do and it doesn't mean other races commit no crimes. a lot of white people are under the illusion of being superior but that doesn't mean if you claim white pride your a racist. People need to be organized by groups of common sense and stupidity. If they feel the need to live with labels they are stupid in that group and of they want to mind their own business and treat others equally they are part of the common sense group.
The white pride part just makes whites seem as if theyāre are superior lol. Any race should have pride in themselves and shouldnāt be called racist at all. Be glad of where you came from and what youāve achieved :)
Good question, thank you for asking it. To be honest, yes. I can't stand ignorance and prejudices, especially when they are used to exclude people.
I live in the expat community of the Milanese area, meaning that myself, my fiancée and many of my neighbors and associates aren't "full" Italians. The thing that frustrates me so much is not the racism and prejudices from "full" Italians, but the racism and prejudices between us! It's insane. The Koreans hate the Thais, the Senegaleses hate the Moroccans, the French hate the Germans, and so on. We should stick together, not jump at each other's throat!
Heh, do the "full" Italians look at history and the trade with North Africa... maybe realize they aren't as white as they think they are? Sorry to hear your community is divided like that, but from everything you say with your co-op you're trying hard to bridge those gaps and make a strong community rather than a weak, divided one.
I think all this racist garbage the media is so desperately pushing onto everyone is absurd first off. Secondly I think ALL racial organizations are inherently racist. Proud boys, 3 percenters, BLM, all of em. They literally just stir the pot, so blinded by rage and delusions of being on the "right" side of history that they stopped fighting for more important things. Canada has become a literal police state, covid-19 is rampaging through india, china has annexed hong kong and who knows how long before the lay claim to Taiwan then other democratic countries. And the wealth gap has become a disgustingly large gaping wound but hey! Betty white painted a black power fist on her face and posted it on social media so racism solved right?
Most of those groups have stated that their goal is to eliminate the middle class, the rest I see as inevitable. Reaction to action. If you start a fire, it will create carbon monoxide.
I agree that it is a huge smoke screen to make us all scared, divided, and so worried about that we don't notice that we're are rapidly growing poorer as those who have wealth rapidly grow in value simply because of the inflation we'll be going through.
the entire stereotyping and typecasting of people based on looks, ethnicity, sexuality, religion, body type, how they dress, is just fucking sad and utterly pathetic.
one of my other annoyances is the need for some people need to stereotype themselves when in any of the above.
the obvious example is the lad next door to my old house, really nice, great school, intelligent, well educated but had the need to talk āGangstaā (Gangsta Chav to be more accurate lol). His mother or father would be like āJames!ā and he would slip back to normal Middle English.
Iāve interviewed guys before, who during the interview have said women donāt make good engineers, I have a lot working for me lol.
itās amazing how shit society is and yeah disgusted but just sad that we have this situation.
I'm hoping it gets better, while realizing that as wide-spread as the message is, and the longer it persists, the more time and possibly generations it will take for that message to disappear.
Heh, I love the "women can't be" jokes. Of course, that's only when they're jokes though, women may be less interested in engineering by and large, doesn't change their capacity for understanding chemistry, engineering, physics, or anything. Everyone knows women can't be lawyers though lol
Wanting people to follow the law isn't racist. We didn't have a border crisis under Trump because for all the stupid shit he said, he did some good things, one of them was enforcing laws. We have one under Biden because he makes it clear he'll selectively enforce laws.
Even if your belief is that everyone who wants to come to the US should be able to (which I disagree with), the legal immigration process should be changed. The flood of people right now is going to simply result in more and more people being dead before they ever even arrive. Fix the humanitarian crisis, close the border, vote on what to do with the current illegal immigrants and the future of reform on that system. Politicians focus on 4 year or 8 year solutions because they don't have to worry about any length of time greater than an election cycle. For the legal immigrants, and people who will live here, those arbitrary decisions for votes will carry life-long consequences.
I don't trust them directly making the budget for my local fire department, much less with the fate of millions of people.
I personally choose not to see people as it race but as or they are. Who you are on the outside as many things than just race. how tall you are, what kind of hair you have, facial facial features, your body type. But just like race all these things do not define who you are. They are merely a piece to the puzzle of you are. they do not define who you are. And Any person (s), I donāt Care what your political view points are, that defines, categorizes, or judges another person or group of people solely by their race or ethnicity is the racist.
I was talking more about our parts as working cogs in society rather than sexual attraction, but that does play a part in making a society too I suppose.
I am an Asian person and I consider myself moderately intelligent. I somewhat appreciate that there is a positive stereotype associated with Asians, but I also don't in the meantime. Actually, positive stereotypes can be harmful as well. To illustrate, for the stereotype that Asians are good at math, it is evident that this label does not apply to every single Asian person. There are of course Asians that are not good at math, and the expectation would likely make them feel bad. The same logic can be generalized to positive stereotypes regarding other races, but I am not discussing those in detail because I don't think I should voice for other races as an ethnic and cultural outsider.
Well, yeah, my brother in law, and two sister in laws both suck at math and academics, they're Asian, and everyone they knew expected them to simply soar straight through college... when they were struggling through high school.
Lots of wasted money trying to push the youngest one through school, like trying to force a duck through a keyhole, just messy as hell and pointless. Lazy too, I tried giving her a job and had to fire her the same day. I set that bar pretty low too. I think most people would set that bar high on expectations on her work ethic and intelligence, then need to be prepared for disappointment.
It's not like that's something isolated either, every community and race has winners and losers. Her other siblings may not be bright bulbs, but they work hard and have results to show from it.
I wouldn't say disgusted but this "woke" obsession with race is anti individualist and actually very racist. Critical race theory came from cultural Marxism and postmodernism. These ideas oppose all of the ideals that created Western civilization, those who support these ideas are actually focused on dismantling Western civilization, capitalism, property rights, the traditional family and white people. Feel free to look up in their own world. This all started in the Frankfurt school of critical theory.
Yeah, they're pretty open about their objectives. Problem is with your second to last sentence. People actually have to look things up and read. This shit wouldn't be sliding onto us if more people were curious and actually read more about their world.
In my opinion the media has a lot to do with promoting racial divides and it is irresponsible at best. I am pretty sick of hearing about how everything that happens somehow has a greater impact on "people of color". The media would lead you to believe that if you aren't white that you are incapable of doing things like obtaining an ID, going online to register for an appointment, voting or deciding what is best for yourself without the assistance of some old white politician helping out. Do people really not see how insulting it is to have some rich guy who has been in politics for 40 plus years telling them he has the solutions to the problems after telling them what their problems are? So yes I am sick of identity politics because it suggests that non white people aren't capable of deciding what is best for them and that is as racist as it gets.
no, i'm not. "assigned identity" is just a toxic rephrasing of the word "stereotype" that is meant to artificially generate outrage about a normal mundane thing, creating new issues where there are none. typical sign of a first world issue that doesn't seem to have enough issues to struggle with. stereotypes exist and emerge from prevalent attributes in certain ethnicities that can be demonstrably and empirically shown. those are not normative or judgmental but purely descriptive and factual. of course there's some stereotypes that do not correlate with the real world and we can eliminate those by proper education and social science, which i happen to be in.
Good luck staying alive if you publish another "Bell Curve", you can't even say that being fat makes you more likely to get covid, among other health conditions now even if the data is overwhelming. It hurts the body positivity.
uhh what? bro, you're mixing up things here. i made no statements on the competely different issues you just mentioned.
being fat makes you more likely to have a whole host of different health issues generally speaking. we know that. it's news to nobody that dealt with mortality or general health statistics. currently you can not trust most of science on covid, cause it's massively being influenced by financial interest driven political and media agendas on a global scale in an historically unprecidented way. also from a social science standpoint: generating mortality statistics that allow valid and representative claims about what people died to and why take several years to make. so anyone who already claims to know is full of shit. though we do observe an excess mortality globally that coincides (not correlates) with covid. it stands to argue that covid is actually less of a prevalent reason for that excess mortality than the actual political measures that are globally taken to "fight" covid. also the definition of "death" was never as unprecise and full of shit than with covid. normally in mortality data, we have exact numbers for causal relationships between death and certain diseases. that was intentionally not done in the beginning of covid with the excuse of "extreme danger of that new disease" which is not scientifically a valid argument (which i won't get further into). so to this day the instruments with wich we would be able to determine whether or not covid caused access mortality have been taken away from us. so it's not our fault that we can't produce results.
"body positivity" is an ideological movement. not a scientific description of anyhting. fat people are generally less healthy and less subjectively satisfied with their life and shaming is actually a mechanism aimed at correcting that, that should in my personal opinion actually not be deactivated... i'm sure i will find an overwhelming empirical evidence for that but since i didn't actually go through the effort, i'll just label that as "my opinion".
sorry that my replies are so lengthy but i really don't know how to compress all that information even further.
Yeah, so far everyone born has indeed died without a break in that pattern. I would consider another race superior if, say, India reached enlightenment, and all Indians stopped aging or something.
Outside of that sci-fi scenario though, we're all just struggling to eat, breed, and be happy on this mud-ball called Earth.
And we all have something in common 97% of the same DNA 3% of the other DNA our loving God give it so we can adapt to the harsh conditions of this planet he didn't know where we're going to go but he knew no matter what side of the planet we're going on we would need to adapt to our environment and our conditions I love you more post because I'm sick and fucking tired of it this is the simplest thing in the world to fix we quit using the word black we quit using the word White we quit using the word Asian would you not put them in any sentences that way your post would have read there are people that need help up there are people that are so smart there are so many people that are privileged Anatomy can be fixed 10 times faster than putting the word black white or Asian in it or any other two races see that I don't even known with the other two are cuz I don't give a fuk we are all the same
Culture is real, races aren't. Cultures form of separations such as time, geography, appearance, etc. Some cultures isolate off appearance, but since it is an internal quality culture can be a choice for who and what you subscribe to. That is why there is always variance even within cultures.
Yeah, that's legit though. Like you can have a New York culture, bound by race or not, that is completely incongruous with a New Jersey or New Orleans culture.
Absolutely, How you are raised impacts choices, but you nonetheless make choices. Also, why different generations were part of different cultures because they are separated by time. You can be non African American and still subscribe to Black culture or other cultures. Some cultures only welcome off appearance, but there will always be exceptions.
I honestly don't care at this point, I identify as brown but grew up mostly around white people. I probably faced some "racism" but I don't let it get to me. I don't like being a victim.
The whole idea of racism is disgusting in my opinion.
"I'm white/black/yellow/pink I deserve better" you deserve to be slapped or hit until you wake up. No color of skin should be looked at as better.
That said "Black History Month" should be abolished as all that does is bring back the racist comments and history on a yearly basis. There isn't an Asian History Month or an Irish History Month...
I'd support "culture history month" have a day or two for each culture during that month, brief primer on their history, and how they have changed or remained the same into the present. But yeah, even if every race/culture was given a month, it would just make it more ridiculous. You about hit the nail on the head what I think when I see that attitude and think of how this is going to simply eradicate the middle class.
Couldn't agree more, love the idea of "culture history month" especially if it isn't sugar-coated or made pretty. Every people group (race, ethnicity , origin) has a past that isn't exactly good and isn't exactly bad.
I believe that some individuals ar superior to others. And further I would find it Extremely unlikely that all ethnicities would have the exact same percentage of exceptional people. I know believing all people are equal will end up having beneficial results but I doubt its true right now.
Individual people are smarter, stronger, faster, more experienced in certain areas, more wealthy. That is fact. Some of them stand out in more than one way, like Olympic athletes or the heads of corporations. I never said I believe all people are equal, that's just as much nonsense. I said I hate this false narrative being fed to every race and culture. People should define themselves off their own identity and be free of that external pressure to be a criminal, to have to be the best in math or be a failure, live with toxic masculinity.
We're older, so it's easy to see through that BS, young people can be easy to influence though.
Racism is ignorant, wrote the ignorant broad. That's what irks me the most about the left in general. They keep applying the titles that fit them like a glove to everybody not agreeing with their mental inferiority.
You're right, that is a woman, I thought it was a guy... Man, that whole body positivity thing is going to result in a whole generation being abstinent except when guys get roofied.
I'd say both sides can be guilty of hypocrisy, but yeah, the right doesn't make it the foundation of their policies or arguments. Even George W. had some bullshit that was food for thought. I love the known unknowns speech for example lol
Oh the right is definitely not devoid of its good share of imbeciles, mind you. But just as for religion, it's not the leader you stand for, it's the base ideas at the origin of the party itself. If the leader pisses all over the very concept of the political side they are driving, that's a no vote for me. If only the left wouldn't see politics as a team sport but the government that rules our lives for 4 freaking years, maybe we wouldn't have had some dickheads in power along the years.
At the end of the day we are all the same, we all feel the same emotions, we all love and hate, we all laugh and cry, we all bleed and heal. Skin is just the largest organ of our anatomy, nothing more, nothing less.
Not a lot of racism has come up to my door, but I am a little upset about the Thomas Jefferson university changing the test... then again like 99% of Asians were in there so maybe we are smart XD just kidding just kidding
Well, I figure on some things my wife is smarter than me, she does fit the stereotype of being better at math lol, but that's simply her, not being Asian, 2 out of her 4 siblings are dumb as hell. The other one is just very quiet. I never heard about Thomas Jefferson university, I'm going to have to look that up, could you give me a brief run down of that?
It might not have been that school, I can't remember, but there was this one school where they had this entry test and 99% of people who passed were Asians but now they're lowering the standards so more people can get in :( but oh well
These are not even the general stereotypes these are the ones white conservatives are pushing though instead of actually listening to poc So yes Iām disgusting at how hard they are pushing a false narrative especially on black people instead of listening
Conservatives are? Interesting, the view on black people I've heard most from conservatives is reactionary from the police shootings, about 52% of murder being committed by 13% of the population, and proportionately more unarmed whites dying at the hands of police. The idea from people I talk to is shifting from neutral towards blacks to suspicion bordering on hostile. Looking at major cities right now, I find it tough to blame them.
The liberal agenda would be the helpless man who can't figure out the internets, and needs help in this modern world they're just so lost in and can't navigate.
I'd say stop the crime, then we can listen with clear ears to people who want to work and build a community, who have a strong sense of purpose and self. Let BLM and Antifa eat each other before any conversation begins. They are going to wind up in competition sooner or later.
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