I think it’s their right to decide, I just wish they got their information from their physician/medical professionals, and not from random idiots or conspiracy theorists on the internet or TV.
They are on racks, but we call it the "pile" I just work on the electric, I'm not a healthcare provider. Last year we had to make space and hook up more refrigeration equipment to handle the load.
I also live across from a cemetery, I've seen more funerals last year than in my entire life combined. They litteraly bought more land to expand.
@Guffrus one of the largest hospital complexes in the USA. (I work here I'm not giving specific info out online for obvious reasons)
It's amazing how fox "news" and other misinformation outlets have managed to convince people that covid is some sort of as trump called it "democratic hoax"
Like the report by lancet that said we could have prevented %40 of the deaths if we would have had a REAL RESPONSE to covid from the trump administration.
Instead we were told, during the first critical weeks , nothing but lies about covid from the trump administration.
Then they tried to push a quack treatment hydroxychloroquinine while hosting covid spreading (and disturbing to any student of history) "rallies"
Then trump got the virus and of course got treatment from the real doctors who were saying all the things trump was opposed to.
So now, thanks in large part to the lies of the failed trump administration stuck with a second variant that is now killing younger people who bought the propaganda. Fyi fox" news" had it's own covid app and vaccine mandatory , in fact tucker Carlson was one of the first people to get the vaccine!!!
You can see that the United States has a comparable death rate to the UK and that the death rate in the UK is not particularly abnormal; its not even as high as it was in the early 90's (this could have been flu? not entirely sure) and the country didn't shut down and get into a wild panic over that.
So as these death rates are not particularly high vs the baseline death rate it is strange that you are saying that you are struggling for capacity.
Perhaps the deaths have occured in large batches followed by abnormally quiet periods so that on average the increase is only slightly higher than baseline and these spikes have caused the problems you have seen?
Dont start attacking me about the data source, I explictly stated that the information might not be correct and invited you to provide an alternative if you were not happy with what i presented.
@Guffrus here's another thought for you, every year mist countries including the UK and USA compile data on the death rate.
If last year was a normal year, why is the number if dead so much more in 2020 than in 2019?
If covid didn't kill hundreds of thousands, what did? We know how many deaths occured in 2001 - 2020 in the USA and in the UK so what killed all those people?
That data is exactly what I have shown you and it clearly demonstrates that the number of deaths is not in fact 'so much higher' that is in fact the core concept I trying to get across to you.
Is it higher than some of the previous years? Yes.
Is it higher than the early 90's rate? In absolute terms, just, but proportiate to the population? No.
@Guffrus from UK and us death rates about 100,000 extra deaths in the UK from 2019 to 2020 and about 400,000 more deaths in the USA in 2020 compared to 2019.
This if course dies not include the more common long term disabilities caused by covid, a friend I rode 1000 miles on my bicycle with over the summer of 19 still can't reach his second floor flat (he lives in London now) without a pause for air he got covid last may.
If you had bothered to look at the supplied data you would have seen that there were approx 80k deaths more in 2020 than 2019 but more importantly what you would have seen is that this sort of variance isn't even abnormal.
Does that mean I am saying the virus isn't real or hasn't killed anyone?
No, what that means is that the amount of people who have died is quite small.
80k more deaths BUT 600k overall.
And a per 100k population rate which is lower than in many of the previous years, most noteably the early 90s period.
So while the figures are higher than they sometimes are they are no so high as to explain a capacity problem at the morgue.
that would be grounds for civil war. you can't force people to take a medication. i am not even anti vaccine but i am not going to be told what to do
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I think it’s their choice.
And I think forced vaccination validates everything they think about government authoritarianism and more. The reason the anti vaccine movement came about was because the UK government tried to force vaccinations of people. As much as the government is comfortable with oppressing people, I also think they’ve learned their lesson.
Against trying to force ANYONE to do ANYTHING. Provide information so that people can choose what's best for THEM. I'm vax'd, so I could careless what they do. Vax'd or not, it changes nothing for me.
Hello, Big Brother! Already herd on the news a bunch of companies are requiring employees to vaccine or be out of a job. May as well play the game otherwise the government is going to screw you more than they already do. :(
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I think it’s their right to decide, I just wish they got their information from their physician/medical professionals, and not from random idiots or conspiracy theorists on the internet or TV.
I don't want to see people held down and jabbed, but I don't think they should be allowed into places they can harm other people.
Typical racist.
They’re Americans choosing what to do with their bodies omg the left could just be normal for once
Fat chance of leftists being normal, they dumped normal in the 70’s
I see them all the time, young, old, mem , women , they all look the same when I'm working in the morge.
We have litteraly PILES Of the unvaccinated.
Stacked to the ceiling with the unvaccinated.
Every day
..
You stack dead people in piles?
Why dont you just bulldoze them into a unmarked mass grave?
Seems like that would actually be a more professional way to conduct yourself.
They are on racks, but we call it the "pile" I just work on the electric, I'm not a healthcare provider. Last year we had to make space and hook up more refrigeration equipment to handle the load.
I also live across from a cemetery, I've seen more funerals last year than in my entire life combined. They litteraly bought more land to expand.
Where is this happening?
How do you know they are unvaccinated?
@Guffrus one of the largest hospital complexes in the USA. (I work here I'm not giving specific info out online for obvious reasons)
It's amazing how fox "news" and other misinformation outlets have managed to convince people that covid is some sort of as trump called it "democratic hoax"
Like the report by lancet that said we could have prevented %40 of the deaths if we would have had a REAL RESPONSE to covid from the trump administration.
Instead we were told, during the first critical weeks , nothing but lies about covid from the trump administration.
Then they tried to push a quack treatment hydroxychloroquinine while hosting covid spreading (and disturbing to any student of history) "rallies"
Then trump got the virus and of course got treatment from the real doctors who were saying all the things trump was opposed to.
So now, thanks in large part to the lies of the failed trump administration stuck with a second variant that is now killing younger people who bought the propaganda.
Fyi fox" news" had it's own covid app and vaccine mandatory , in fact tucker Carlson was one of the first people to get the vaccine!!!
Perhaps you could tell me which State you are in?
I understand if you are not comfortable sharing specific information, I was just hoping for something more specific than 'some where in the US'.
Here's the thing though:
Deaths aren't all that high, this isn't like Ebola or the Black Death.
If you take a look at this information (perhaps this information is wrong? If you have alternative information you would like considered thats fine)
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
www.ons.gov.uk/.../deathsintheukfrom1990to2020
You can see that the United States has a comparable death rate to the UK and that the death rate in the UK is not particularly abnormal; its not even as high as it was in the early 90's (this could have been flu? not entirely sure) and the country didn't shut down and get into a wild panic over that.
So as these death rates are not particularly high vs the baseline death rate it is strange that you are saying that you are struggling for capacity.
Perhaps the deaths have occured in large batches followed by abnormally quiet periods so that on average the increase is only slightly higher than baseline and these spikes have caused the problems you have seen?
@Guffrus so you found a website with unqualified and unreviewed data while ignoring John's Hopkins, lancet and other real sources if information?
Let's just do a quick search and see what I can find with a simple Google search...
Ok I found a half dozen REPUTABLE sources that completely contradict the obviously made up data on the link you gave..
And thus article in the website.. www.google.com/.../&ved=2ahUKEwjMz7CrkcryAhXBXc0KHaeEAS0QFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw14DB9XNkPjXlCBm7MdJocl&cshid=1629824579525
Dont start attacking me about the data source, I explictly stated that the information might not be correct and invited you to provide an alternative if you were not happy with what i presented.
@Guffrus here's another thought for you, every year mist countries including the UK and USA compile data on the death rate.
If last year was a normal year, why is the number if dead so much more in 2020 than in 2019?
If covid didn't kill hundreds of thousands, what did? We know how many deaths occured in 2001 - 2020 in the USA and in the UK so what killed all those people?
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
This is the UK government website and the data matches with the originally presented data.
That data is exactly what I have shown you and it clearly demonstrates that the number of deaths is not in fact 'so much higher' that is in fact the core concept I trying to get across to you.
Is it higher than some of the previous years? Yes.
Is it higher than the early 90's rate? In absolute terms, just, but proportiate to the population? No.
@Guffrus sorry about the editing and typos. My screen is cracked and it often switches i's and o's.
@Guffrus from UK and us death rates about 100,000 extra deaths in the UK from 2019 to 2020 and about 400,000 more deaths in the USA in 2020 compared to 2019.
This if course dies not include the more common long term disabilities caused by covid, a friend I rode 1000 miles on my bicycle with over the summer of 19 still can't reach his second floor flat (he lives in London now) without a pause for air he got covid last may.
If you had bothered to look at the supplied data you would have seen that there were approx 80k deaths more in 2020 than 2019 but more importantly what you would have seen is that this sort of variance isn't even abnormal.
Does that mean I am saying the virus isn't real or hasn't killed anyone?
No, what that means is that the amount of people who have died is quite small.
80k more deaths BUT 600k overall.
And a per 100k population rate which is lower than in many of the previous years, most noteably the early 90s period.
So while the figures are higher than they sometimes are they are no so high as to explain a capacity problem at the morgue.
that would be grounds for civil war. you can't force people to take a medication. i am not even anti vaccine but i am not going to be told what to do
I think it’s their choice.
And I think forced vaccination validates everything they think about government authoritarianism and more. The reason the anti vaccine movement came about was because the UK government tried to force vaccinations of people. As much as the government is comfortable with oppressing people, I also think they’ve learned their lesson.
Against trying to force ANYONE to do ANYTHING. Provide information so that people can choose what's best for THEM.
I'm vax'd, so I could careless what they do. Vax'd or not, it changes nothing for me.
Forced anything goes against my values. Its unfortunate that people don't want to get vaccinated but there isn't a whole lot we can do about it.
It's total BULLSHIT. Nobody should feel threatened, intimidated, manipulated or coerced into doing something they aren't sure about.
I think you can take your vaccine and shove it up your ass, sideways.
Nothing, normal unless they start forcing themselves on places that only allows vaccinated people to enter.
It's becoming annoying now.
They have the right to choose and think for themselves. America is turning into a communist country with these vaccine mandates
I see one commie downvoted me
Hello, Big Brother! Already herd on the news a bunch of companies are requiring employees to vaccine or be out of a job. May as well play the game otherwise the government is going to screw you more than they already do. :(
Doesn’t matter let everyone make their own decisions it’s a waste of time to convince people
Their choice to not get the vaccine but we should not feel sorry for them if they are dying from the virus because they refused to get the vaccine
How about for the people who are in an accident and can't find a ICU bed? (25% of ICU beds are occupied by covid patients.)
I believe it is a human right to chose what the hell we want or don't want in our bodies
My body my choice. But it’s our public places that we can demand vaccines or get out.
No shoes
No Shirt
No vaccine
No service
Forced vaccination is pretty fascistic if you ask me. Your rights would depend on consuming a product from a "private company".
I'm not bothered. I'm double-vaccinated so I'm reasonably safe. Anyway I've had a good life for the most part.
Take it if you want to. Don't take it if you don't want to. Simple.