I am a mother of four I believe in the courtesy of others and being respectful towards others not just myself.
If we stop considering the public why should the public be considerate of us.
A mother has many forms of being able to feed her child without exposing herself in public or covering up to feed our babies. I understand the argument but also understand that the issue lies with yourself and forcing others to your views only states you feel more entitled to your views over how others may feel. I don't think it's fair to simply force upon others what we think life should project. There is all kinds of people in this world. We also do not need to be in public eye 24 hours a day so this argument falls short.
As a mother who did breath feed in the past I would cover up or do a half and half feeding.
Half breast milk half formula I also had pumped to take for travels. It's much more enjoyable as well. Focusing to much on ourselves may the world be over sexualized does not mean we stop being courteous. If we want things to change we need to raise both our girls and boys differently. It doesn't start with grown men it starts with young boys and girls.
You also want to stop over sexualization, well I suggest you start boycotting the porn industry and media.
The answer that men are too pussy to say: because they’re a freak that gets turned on by breasts being used for WHAT THEY WERE MEANT TO BE USED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. Half of y’all cry and bitch about women being sluts but getting turned on by a woman breastfeeding is by far the most slutty motherless, fatherless behavior I’ve ever seen in my life. Please get help
If a babies drinking milk that shouldn’t bother you? I’ve seen it once or twice and I could care less, you could always just look the other way if it bothers you. It’s completely natural and doesn’t need to happen in closed doors. I swear if men could get pregnant and had titties this would never be an argument in the first place
We're not uncomfortable with the breast feeding alone but we're in fact uncomfortable because she might turn out to be a moron who screams "stare rape" for just looking at her exposed boobs as if it's our fault we have eyes. I can give you a lot of reason why boobs are sexual organs. Boobs orgasm exist, boobs are linked to how much estrogen you have which is also a sex drive, if it's nothing sexual, then why do most girls feel "harassed" even if the boobs was accidentally touched? If you want to talk about something "in the first place" Do you not realize even animals hide when they breast feed? Women had also been doing that in the first place. As humans being biological creatures, we do share our great ancestors DNA so yes it is a sexual organ. Nobody is saying that we shouldn't control it but the fact that boobs is still a sexual organ, being aroused by it is still on normal thing only we don't take actions for it. That's the same for naked body. Tho i'm not speaking for myself and for all guys but that doesn't remove the fact that it is a sexual organ. If my SO breast feeds, it wouldn't matter if i get turn on or not because i know i'm not going to do anything about it. But the question is will other guys do? Which is why i'm going to cover for her because again it is responsibility. If you don't like that kind of responsibility then who is forcing your to have a child?
If that's your conclusion to say we are freaks, that's in our human nature so you are saying men are freaks. Most of the time guys control themselves whenever they see boobs but in the inside you won't know who gets turn on or not because nobody likes to show it. You just don't know how many hormones work do you? If that is all based on your experience and i can say women had been bitches and rude but a lot of times they were excuse because they were on their periods and "we don't know how they feel" sure they can get moody but they still have level of control not to get rude or be bitchy. If you get moody would you ever call yourself a freak? I don't think so.
@doopyo lol women judge men on so many levels even if they are standing next to someone.
Also it would be no different if men had titties they would be asked to cover up.
It just weird to showcase them in a public setting.
Let's just say a man had erection for what ever reason and is standing next to women tell me will she not get uncomfortable?
She will make a fuss about it if he's close by noe the bulge could be due to any reason from cold to tight pants and that would still not be excepted.
Any kind of meaty or bulged objects are frowned in general by men and women.
You might argue that breasts are not sexual it's not the purpose of breasts then tell me why is that women adjust there boobs to seduce guys intentionally now while seducing it's just what it is !
What's the big deal in just putting a cover over the shoulder?
@Aiko when has that ever happened though? And I think if you’re a man and you are aroused by a woman feeding her child than you probably have a porn addiction. You can’t blame that on biology. That’s just weird
@Aakash because of oversexualization of the body from porn now you have grown ass men even sexualizing mothers feeding their children? There’s no way that’s normal, nothing is sexual about a mother feeding her child. A mom feeding her child is literally not compared to a boner? Wth, plus it’s not like if you have a boner people are going to Shame them and tell them to “put it away” they might get uncomfortable but no one says to put it away cause obviously that’s not how anything works. Either way boners are from arousal and breast feeding is caused from recent pregnancy because it’s literally meant to feed the mothers baby?
@doopayo so with that logic, that means every guys "normally" have porn addiction. I love how you chose to ignore the explanation saying how boobs are sexual objects, you're ignoring the fact that even animals hide when they breast feed so that you can pretend to be ignorant and call out anyone for it.
@doopayo "Boobs orgasm exist, boobs are linked to how much estrogen you have which is also a sex drive, if it's nothing sexual, then why do most girls feel "harassed" even if the boobs was accidentally touched? If you want to talk about something "in the first place" Do you not realize even animals hide when they breast feed? Women had also been doing that in the first place. As humans being biological creatures, we do share our great ancestors DNA so yes it is a sexual organ."
Read again and be relevant to that. Stop making shit up
@halo No one is talking about that, I’m talking about breast feeding. I do consider you a freak if you can’t kept it in your pants for a woman that’s just feeding her damn child? Of course I’m going to blame it on porn addiction, that’s not normal
This isn't about "feeding the baby" but it's how your boobs are exposed. Really what makes you think "breast feeding" has nothing to do with "breast"? Do you "breast feed" with your mouth? If that were the case, it would've been fine. If it really is about feeding the baby, the wouldn't we be arguing that feeding a baby with baby food or formula be inappropriate? Yeah you just like to jump to that victim card saying it's inappropriate to feed the baby just like pulling the victim card on race.
www.motherandbaby.co.uk/.../best-breastfeeding-nursing-covers I've been looking at this stuff online, boohoo you feel so oppressed for this $10 piece of fabric (but we all know most of the time, it's the husband paying that one) as if you're caring tons of dumbbell plates with you.
What a productive argument you made 🤨.. also your claim about animals covering up when they breast feed is literally false.
The fact of the matter is you’re acting like breast feeding has anything to do with you in the first place when it’s something between a mother and a child. A mother breastfeeding her child is natural and healthy, you can’t always cover it up because the child might not like it and remove the covering because children like to look at their mother while breastfeeding.
It’s as simple as that. It’s not sexual and the fact that people are implying it is, that’s just ridiculous and no ones crying victim. You’re the one acting like a victim because god forbid you see a mom pop a titty to feed her kid 😭 tf would you do? Arrest her for indecency?
Yes they don't do it in public because it leaves them vulnerable unless they're protected by the father. So tell me what's a good reason why they'd even do it in public? And again no body is saying breast feeding isn't healthy and about feeding children. I'm still talking about how it has anything to do with exposing your boobs. You're still ignoring my explanation how it is a sexual organ. I talked about boobs orgasm and hormones millions of times yet you have no counter argument to that. Ok if you feel "bad" for the child being covered, I was being covered when i was breastfeeding. Chances are you have been too but do I care? Do you care? Ofcourse not. All babies have the capability to adjust. Don't tell me you're gonna keep rocking your baby to sleep because if you don't, he/she might cry? You don't bother getting them to adjust? Then it's on you and good luck with your own energy. And back to decency, it's called basic precaution and responsibility. So don't tell me you'd also just leave your car open then only to complain someone stole something in there. Because I see you don't like responsibility. Better not own a car, better not own a baby. Simple.
If boobs is also nothing sexual, then you wouldn't feel ashamed if a guy JUST looks at it. You wouldn't care if guys get turned on by it because most of the time, you won't know anyways. But I see, it's you focusing more on taking a look at and over analyzing guys who gets horny over boobs because you feel that part needs to be protected. So what does that even say about boobs? Still not a sexual organ?
So your only justification for why women shouldn’t breastfeed in public is because animals do it with their husbands to protect themselves. But you haven’t explained what that even has in common with humans. And the next reason is because men might get aroused because breast are a sexual organ.
If men get aroused from a woman breast feeding that’s weird asf and they need therapy, that has nothing to do with the mom breast feeding her child
Oh another thing would be there are times babies feel uncomfortable when their feet touches the ground. But if you feel for them, how do you expect them to walk?
No. Again it's because boobs are sexual organs. Read again before you keep putting words on people's mouth. I also said this "Yes they don't do it in public because it leaves them vulnerable unless they're protected by the father" And in fact, humans are animals. That's basic biology. So why are you pretending I never said that?
If you wanna keep jumping to the wrong conclusion, I'll repeat this part again "I can give you a lot of reason why boobs are sexual organs. Boobs orgasm exist, boobs are linked to how much estrogen you have which is also a sex drive, if it's nothing sexual, then why do most girls feel "harassed" even if the boobs was accidentally touched?"
Want more explanation how they're sexual? People get turned on when nipples get rubbed. They feel a tingle that makes them aroused. The difference with both men and women is women can feel more of it and while men getting to experience that, they can relate and have the desire to see women getting turned on by it. It's just that I shouldn't be explaining this to a 15 year old but your ignorance is in a whole new level.
Oh here's another fact for you, just like how it feels to get nipple rubbed, women also feel that arousing feeling when breast feeding www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3431754/ and it's normal. Do me a favor and go to the "Sexual Arousal During Breastfeeding" part. So if I have to judge women like how you judge men, can i say they're freaks for getting aroused with their own child?
@Aiko explain where in “human dna” women hide their breastfeeding cause that is entirely dependent on culture. In some cultures it’s normal for women to be butt ass naked and the men don’t get aroused because they were never socialized to sexualize the female body in such a way proving theirs literally nothing inherently sexual with the female body and breast feeding.
Another thing i said you ignored "if it's nothing sexual, then why do most girls feel "harassed" even if the boobs was accidentally touched?" Girls feeling harassed has nothing to do with social construct but it is in their natural instinct to feel that way. Why? I did explain to you how boobs are sexual organs which is why women cover cover them for precaution. If it isn't sexual for them, then they wouldn't care if one touches their boobs for the same reason one just touched her hands or something else. You really want me to focus on that subject yet you're ignoring the rest. You're still ignoring how women gets aroused when breast feed which also indicates it is a sexual organ and why they hide when breast feeding. Our greatest ancestor had been feeling that way and it passed through our generation. Do you not understand how DNA works?
if you wanna talk about culture where everyone is naked, then that's also the same culture where rape is considered normal, abortion was considered a really big taboo unlike today because that kind of culture is a primitive culture where people have to reproduce to survive. We're not living in society like that anymore so we cover and that includes men as well. Which is why we don't show off our dicks when we have to pee which was not an issue back then in that culture you're talking about.
It doesn't take a genius. You ignored the rest of what i said so i shouldn't be surprised you'd play dumb when it comes to this one. Or maybe it's because you really are.
I would not care at all. Like this one, I was visiting Washington, D. C. and my dad would yell at a woman who is breastfeeding her baby saying it's not appropriate. All she did was breastfeed her baby and he's all mad about it. Like... I swear that if he had an opinion he will not give a flying fuck and yell at a person who is “personally attacking him”. Like I don't care if woman breastfeeds her baby like... It's her business and my dad is just being extremely difficuly human being. But I don't know why men are so uncomfortable.
While this is only my personal experience, I have never seen or heard a man complain or even comment about this. But I've heard LOTS of women talk about it - often nasty comments behind their back, but sometimes complaining to the woman breastfeeding, and a couple of times making a big scene.
I'm not saying that men do nothing - a few will stare - and maybe a few will mutter something to their wife or girlfriend - but it's not men doing the confronting, or publicly complaining - it's other women.
I can understand in certain situations but I am a waitress and some women just pull out their boobs while a male serving is serving them and it’s just kind of like? Why not make time before this to do that and not make your male server uncomfortable. I think people this day and age have just gone far off normal etiquette and just overall politeness
Yes and people also schedule feeding times and such. I respect the women that at least bring blankets. I think people should be understandable about both sides and just be proper with Etiquette
To make both sides comfortable. Bring a blanket, feed your baby before you come into the restaurant. Be respectful to people around you. Some parents are honestly a pain in the ass. I see it all. People changing their baby’s diapers at the table while people have their food in the area.
@TonyMetal__86 it’s not even just that I just wish people had the decency to be mutual and understanding of others perspectives. There’s literally women that being a blanket and do it and it’s totally fine, then there’s others that have their titties completely out and it’s like why not just understand that , that could be uncomfortable to others
It seems like there aren't hard and fast rules for etiquette these days. Or, at least, some find that the old rules are pointless or bigoted. It's easier to get by in smaller towns where you know people and how they'll react more easily.
I feel the same way, it's not just about one person when we are in public. There is also other ways to go about enjoying the outdoors with your baby without having to use a cover. Bottle feeding is another choice may that be you are breast feeding and formula feeding or pumping.
Moms do not spend all of there hours in public so it's a bit silly to not try to be considerate of others.
It's simply a courtesy to others in a public form.
I don't think there are as many as people think. To me it is just a natural part of life. I see people saying the woman needs to cover up. I guess maybe I live in a different area because I have never seen a mother just plop her boobs out and start feeding her child. The times I have seen mothers feeding in public they have always been modest enough that they covered themselves. If by chance she didn't have something to cover with I would try to give her the respect of ignoring it until the poor child is finished. If a man can't control himself because he see's a breast I think he needs some help
Not all men are uncomfortable with women breast feeding their children in public, it depends on how they were raised in their family, If the majority of women in their family breast fed their children then usually men in those families have no problems.
This is not just a guy problem, I have seen women act negatively to a woman breast feeding a child, and the only thing I can think of to explain it is that both the women & men who react negatively to a woman breast feeding is that they come from families that have exclusively bottle fed their children and only see a woman's breasts in a sexual light and have never seen a breast being used for the purpose nature designed it for.
I am not. It's a beautiful thing to see a mother and her baby bonding like that. I wish more women would do it and not feel ashamed. Have you some strong and healthy babies and tell the losers who have no business in your family life to go kick rocks. They dont have to look, they can just turn away.
I'd rather your babies drank a natural milk that builds up their white blood cells, bones, brain, muscle, and vital organs than have them fed soy garbage.
Because bare breasts are sexual in nature for men, but women act like it's not, when it very clearly is, and then expect men to go asexual and all of a sudden not be attracted by nude women in public. It's very inappropriate to breast feed without a baby curtain, yet some women feel like they're entitled to do anything or just pop their tits out in public because they think their baby's needs come before everything and everyone else. But mainly, it's the whole "public nudity" thing.
And I bet you some dumbass will try to defend this in some way or make it all about women's entitlements, but I'm sick of people being entitled and self-righteous for the sake of their own ego. I call things how I see it. You wouldn't want me walking around with my dick flopping out just because "urinating is natural, ya incels!", would you?
I think that a mans bare chest is attractive.. am I going to complain when I see a shirtless guys.. no. Because I can exercise self control and not see him as a sexual object. Nudity isn’t inherently sexual. Are you seriously comparing mammalian glands with genitalia?
I somehow knew you'd respond this way. No, sexuality ISN'T something you can turn on and off. By your own logic, gay people could just "pray the gay away." Sexuality isn't a choice, and you don't sound intelligent by claiming it is. It especially isn't a choice for anyone who has a penis. So yes, for many many men, nudity of a halfway decent looking woman IS sexual.
How fucking hard is it for people to have some self-control and decency and maybe, I dunno, breastfeed their kid in a bathroom or a closed-place? Instead of having this fucking entitled "the world revolves around me and whatever I say goes, and it's everyone else who is the problem if they dislike it" attitude.
Seriously, if you want to be spoken to like an adult then act a fucking adult. There's plenty of women out there who can not inconvenience everyone around them or go fully nude for the sake of feeding their kid.
I'm trying to be polite here, but you're a 24 year old woman with the mentality of a bratty child with this argument and I've seen it from you before. Everything you post has feminist undertones to it, like "the world revolves around me and men who don't conform to my wants and needs are all a problem." The same kind of attitude where if you tell a woman not to dress in a bikini and go walking through Detroit at 3am, it's seen as "victim blaming" if she gets raped. As if self-accountability and not being an entitled selfish brat is so hard for people to do, or is a "male" trait.
I say this, hoping that maybe you'll listen to it, but whether you do or not isn't of my concern. Like I said, if you want to be treated with respect like an adult who lives with other people and not your own private fucking island, then act like an adult. Have respect for other people, and stop putting :your needs" before the sake of everyone else, and trying to come up with shitty feminist excuses for it. This applies to ANYONE. I see this entitled, selfish, shitty attitude in way too many "adults" nowadays and I'm sick of it.
Telling someone to respect others around you and having basic human decency isn't something just limited to men. And for the record, shirtless douchebags annoy the fuck out of me. Not that the argument isn't disingenuous as fuck, because I seriously doubt your panties get wet at any topless, athletic male around you.
Jesus! So sick of people's shitty selfish attitudes, nowadays.
Wow there are so meany red flags 🚩. You’re not single because you think your short, your single because of your attitude and the way you sexualize people.
"I’m not talking about sexuality. I’m talking about being in control of you actions even if you are aroused."
No one said they were going to go up and sexually assault the woman, now did they? However, the point you're missing is that a man's boner is involuntary. And the point you missed/skipped/ignored, is that the world doesn't revolve around you and you don't get to do whatever you want just because you feel like an entitled/justified Karen because of it. In fact, men who aren't super rich and powerful who usually act that way get punched in the mouth. That's why most Karens tend to be female.
"your single because of your attitude and the way you sexualize people."
Okay. Fuck off. Also, it's "your." Have fun being an entitled twat and womanchild who thinks the world revolves around you. Everyone else can see what I wrote here, so I'm frankly done with your entitled childishness.
@KrakenAttackin I seriously have no patience for people who are stupid AND entitled. I made a valid point about how breastfeeding in public without a feeding curtain is indecent and a a topless woman will cause male arousal as they aren't focusing on the baby there but the tits and how people aren't entitled to do what they want just because they feel like it. And as expected, she turned it into feminist "male shaming" horseshit and frankly, I am done with that.
traveling on train back to RAF Air Base and met a friend we go chatting etc, a young woman about 20 -25 got on with a baby, bit of small talk and then I put my headphones on and got a book out.
half an hour in, I felt someone kick my leg, and looked at my mate who is trying to attract my attention, I ignored him as could not see anything.
he then did it again but harder, headphones still on I said along lines of ‘what the hell is up that you need to keep kicking me’ as I said it the girl next to me turned and I noticed she had her baby clamped to her boob.
I went right red, my mate self combusted and the girl laughed lol, the baby kept feeding away oblivious to the stupidity of the adult males.
I get that it's natural, but I don't care to see that out and about. For the same reason I don't care to see men or women walk about naked - I don't want to see it if I haven't asked for it.
Plus, ew. Babies.
Now, women should have safe spaces that are shielded from public view to breastfeed and they should have spaces in as many establishments as possible. Yes. And men's spaces need diaper tables and other baby necessities, too - fathers who take care of their babies also exist, after all.
But out in public on a bus or something? Like if it broke down there's no other way, sure. But without extraordinary circumstances? Please no.
I love how some nitwit is always trying to turn this into a "men versus women" issue. It isn't. Guys don't care. Most of the noise and nonsense around not being allowed to breastfeed in public is coming from other women. Take it up with them.
Incidentally this is the same with slut shaming. Guys don't mind seeing titties in public and we don't mind when girls are happy to sleep with us. Who does mind? Other women. Turns out they don't like the competition.
It’s the guilt complex, where people see a partially exposed woman and are tempted to view her in sexual terms and than feel guilty for experiencing the temptation they feel so try to address the visuals rather than their reaction to the situation.
I think in younger men, they just don’t know how to react. Hormones say “look at the boobs” but then they feel guilty. I also think the older generation generally feel it should be done at home, or parts covered, as showing skin was always something that generation was raised to believe is immoral.
There's nothing wrong with it. It's natural and to be honest... it's how things should be. We're meant to be in our birthday suits. Whoever came up with the concept of capitalism and clothing? Don't get me wrong. Clothing is necessary for cold climates and shoes help prevent injury. But other than that, the notion that being in your birthday suit is taboo is ridiculous to me.
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Because the sight of boobs turns us on regardless of what they are being used for at the moment. You want us dudes to walk around with hard ons? I don't think you want to have to see that. Don't say "well then they shouldn't look." Because you have every option to take your baby to a private area, such as the women's bathroom. It boils down to being courteous to your fellow human, you don't wanna see ours in public and we don't wanna see yours. No amount of saying "boobs aren't sexual" is going to change the fact that in US culture they are sexual. Don't like it, you are free to move to a country with a culture that does not see boobs as sexual.
I see attactive men around all the time. But I don’t have the right to ask someone to put a shirt on because I find their body arousing. My arousal is my responsibility, just like your is your own. I can be around other naked people and control myself.
Wrong. We can control our actions, but whether we get an erection or not. Its completely involuntary. Comparing shirtless men to shirtless women is not a valid argument. Women's boobs is the equivalent to us showing you our balls/penis. It's completely different than an attractive guy walking around with no shirt
Also you're a woman, your arousal does not show even with clothes on. Ours does. Do you want to have to see that? If you don't care that you see our dicks through our clothes then we won't care about seeing your boobs.
I can assure you no women would would thank that is equivalent, I can promise you that. And I didn’t say that people couldn’t control their urges, I’m saying it’s a problem when they don’t. I can promise you that I could care less if I saw a man with an erection. Sometimes it happens as long as you’re not naked with sexual intent or masturbating, we won’t have a problem. I have been to quite a few hot springs where nudity is accepted and guess what, no one was a creep.
Well then my friend you are the exception and not the rule. Plenty of people would be extremely uncomfortable in that situation. Plus how is it fair to subject a guy to that embarrassment. If women had the same problem with arousal becoming visible then I would be empathetic to them and want to prevent it as much as possible. Just think of how humiliating that is.
Well people can still notice it if you aren't wearing jeans. Look, if the general stigma went away about everyone's body's in today's society and we all accepted each other whether we were nude or not I'd feel differently. I'd be perfectly OK with us all being naked all the time weather permitting. That being said, there are some people who for some reason can't handle seeing a dudes boner without getting highly offended. The same is true of a woman's bare breasts, some people can't handle it without throwing a fit about it. Until that sentiment goes away I'd prefer to keep my dick and your breasts completely private so everyone is happy.
@Subarugirl nobody asks women to do anything. Stop with this ridiculous nonsense. ITS WOMEN WHO WALK AROUND MOSTLY NAKED. NOT MEN. You are just a confused little feminist with no real problems.
I've noticed the opposite. Men seem fine with breastfeeding and women are grossed out by it. I breastfed a lot in public and never did a man ever stare or say anything to me but had multiple women tell me to cover up/go in the bathroom and they had staring issues as well.
My wife's experience was similar. Only was ever told to cover up by women. Her reaction was usually a combination of being even less discreet and flashing her middle finger.
@matchrestore haha yeah I think women get jealous or something. It is annoying when people say things especially when the baby is difficult to feed in the first place like there is no way I could use a cover with my son. He was not gonna eat in the dark
While it's just an anecdote, i love that anecdote. That just means that it's not only men sexualizing boobs but women feel harassed when their boobs are shown. I can see those women have some sense of precaution and chances are those men being fine by it are secretly staring at your boobs without getting caught. The only thing is that you're not so uncomfortable which is why you are not insecure and extra careful that you don't bother catching guys looking at your boobs but you just mind your own business
I live in nyc and there was a woman who pulled out her breast to breastfeed on the train. 80% of people were glaring at her. I think most people would think its indecent, unclassy. If I had a baby, i would never ever breast feed in public. I would pump milk at home and put it into a bottle for my baby instead.
I think we live in a too where men are allowed to drool over attractive women who pass by and women have learned to cover themselves so that they do not meet on pigs and uncomfortable situations. Personally i don't mind women breastfeeding in public, but I do mind people staring at a mother and her child in that situation.
I can stare at whatever I want cutie. by the way it's mostly women who have a problem with breastfeeding in public. And no its not natural has never been. Breastfeeding isn't done in front of strangers.
they think they're taking the moral high road, but secretly, they're all perverted, and wouldn't be able to avoid staring so inside of admitting that, they think women shouldn't do it, which is wrong, if it's your child you should have the right to nurse them anyplace at anytime, it's a human body part, not just a sex icon, jeez
Lol i look wherever I want. I don't care if they do that. Nobody does. It's women getting angry at things that don't actually ever happen. And no breast feeding in front of strangers has obviously never been natural.
Then if your feeling and I look at you and have a visible erection will you be offended? If not the do your part! I have issue with people doing tome thing in public then complaint others are watching.
I can’t say I’m bothered by it. I honestly don’t see what the big deal is. If she’s comfortable with it and I’m comfortable with it then there’s no problem. The very first time I I saw a mom do it I was a bit shocked to see. It looked like she wounded her shoulder by how she was holding her arm. After realizing she’s holding a baby it all made sense and I didn’t think much of it. 🤷♂️
I think maybe the ones that do do so because they really want to look at the breasts but know it's probably not appropriate so they then don't know where to look and so get uncomfortable.
I can't imagine a man would go complain about a woman breastfeeding in public. Why would he make this his business? If they did they are probably religious and/or repressed in some way or a weirdo deviant.
So my wife has breastfed our children. I'm fine with her feeding anywhere, she likes to drape a blanket over everything. The only times anyone has said they were uncomfortable and would like her to stop were younger girls. Stating even though she had cover, they knew she had a boob out under the blanket. Never had a guy complain, though i have had to tell several men to stop staring.
I’m not uncomfortable with it I just don’t get why woman have to be totally boobs out. Like I get the whole “feeding the baby” bit but their still your boobs and their still sexual wether you are feeding a baby or not. Just pout a towel on or something. Good grief…
Lol! I have not but I have seen my sisters all do it and I will admit that is a pain sometimes. It just seems like more and more woman want to go full boob and be allowed to simply because their feeding their baby. And I’m sorry but if I walk around a corner and bump in to you feeding boobs out I am not going to know that you are feeding your baby until after I already get an erection because I saw your big gorgeous milky tits. Like it just seems like the lesser of two evils.
Because a female boob is a private sexual part for a man, also breastfeeding is sn intimate moment between a mother and her baby, i'm not saying that if she had to breastfeed in public she cannot do it, at least if her husband is with her, he should cover his wife snd let no one see how the mother is breastfeeding, if she's alone than she must find a public restroom or she may also put a small blanket so that no one can her boobs...
I'll surely look away because i have respect for women but it makes me uncomfortable because i don't know when she will finishes or if i looked back that i might see something!
I respect a married woman because she's taken and i believe that her body can only be seen and touched by her hushand...
Because I'll be tempted to watch and if I do I will rightfully be smacked. That said, I definitely think it should be fully legal for women to be topless in public. My mild discomfort is not sufficient reason for things to be illegal.
Boobs are distracting and especially they grow in size and the nipple looks weird and it gets elongated.
It's not about feeding the baby but it's just weird to pop out a breast.
If not for the baby do you just pull out the breast in public? If you did how would you feel doing that? It's defjnetly weird right with or without baby.
You can feed baby what's the problem in putting the cover or towel while doing it.
Let your baby have some privacy whole it's eating.
I'm not exactly sure. It could be that they only see the female breast as sexual. Personally, I think women should be able to breastfeed anywhere in public.
Honestly, I don't give a crap. Will it catch me off guard because I didn't expect to see that? Most likely. But a baby has gotta eat like the rest of us. People just need to learn to mind their own business.
Because it’s shocking to see anyone pull a private part out in public. It’s something you should do in privacy in your own home. You wouldn’t be too comfortable if I whipped my dick out in front of a bunch of women and children to piss in public view, would you?
It’s a private part, nonetheless. Just because you don’t see it as a big deal, doesn’t mean everyone has to be ok with it. It seems to me that you’re asserting this as a women’s rights issue.
I think that public nudity shouldn’t be so sexualized. Yeah I now, I that tits are sexy too, or man with a nice chest. People find a nice pair of legs sexy. A lot of people find feet sexy, having a foot fetish is one of the most common fetishes out there. So what’s your point?
I guess that is a matter of opinion. But last I checked, eating isn’t private. How would you feel about having to eat in the bathroom or with a blanket over your head because it was making some one uncomfortable?
Ain't got a clue!! I've seen it at least 3 or 4 times starting back in the late `70's and never had a problem with it!! Nearest I can tell, it's mostly women that are pissed about it!!
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It's weird to whip tits out in public. Also it seems like a very intimate thing that should be done in private. It's just weird bodily function stuff -- like, a baby is drawing and consuming your bodily fluids directly from you. It's a bit much. At least keep it around your family.
Eating is also slightly weird, we're just used to seeing it. But it does feel weird when you're eating a meal and someone else you're talking to isn't having anything.
The baby can "eat" with a bottle and it's fine, but directly consuming someone's bodily fluids from their body is obviously intimate. When else do people do that? During super sloppy kissing and swallowing after a BJ. Any other activity you can name where one human directly receives fluids from another is not going to be a public activity either. Kissing and breastfeeding would be the most tolerated on the list.
I don't think it's wrong to breastfeed a baby in public. But many women think that if some erson stares at them accidentally or gets aroused he is a pervert. Lemme tell u this men can't control when they get aroused or when they get a boner. It's natural bt many females think he has a very bad mentality... that's not the case.
Its very difficult to raise a child and specially a new born coz you dont know when you might have to feed them or change their diaper, so if a person doesn't like a woman breast feeding her child in public least they could do is look somewhere else rather staring at her or giving her weird looks
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I personally couldn't care less. Oh and to that 15 year old bitch that has issues with men.. Please be a lesbian so you don't curse any men with your presence.. Man haters like you should not breed.. And there are many women that are anti breast feeding in public.. Grow up child.
You know, bitter what the ratio of level-headed men, there is always going to be those who lack decency. A few will go ga-ga over such a site and make it obvious. Most, I believe will call it a part of life and move on.
I've literally never seen someone uncomfortable because of that
People, me included, will probably glance over as it's not something you see all the time every single day but other than that there is no outrage or anything
I'm sure there are a number of men who complain and/or stare for whatever lame reason (s) they have, but the only time I ever saw anyone complain in person over a mother breastfeeding was a young woman who didn't have kids.
I don't know about being uncomfortable, but you'd be surprised as to how many women get upset when someone records them breastfeeding. There are websites dedicated to this kind of voyeurism and women who whip 'em out in public have to accept that they may find themselves the focus of more attention then they expect.
I didn’t know men were uncomfortable from it I’ve always seen women being the ones speaking up about it especially when the breast feeder in question is attractive
Breast are actually only sexual they serve no biological function other then attracting men. You see that other animals don't have breasts. Women with bigger tits don't produce more milk.
@Hallo626262 That's sorta true. Humans are the only mammals with permanently protuberant mammary glands (for all others, the mammary glands of the male and female are the same size except when nursing) which suggests that they evolved to function as a secondary sex characteristic.
by the way I don't have an issue with girls breastfeeding in public I'm just explaining the mindset of guys who do.
Breasts are the way they are to show sexual maturity. They aren't FOR sexualization as that's not a function. It's to show a woman could potentially have children. Also you can't say breasts don't have any biological function when they're literally for breastfeeding which is a biological function.
You are just describing sexual attraction in a different way. The milk isn't produced by breasts animals don't have them. A flat chested women can still produce milk.
@Hallo626262 lol you're kidding right? take enough estrogen and a men will develop breasts too... Breasts are a combination of breast tissue and fat, and size is largely dependent on genetics and how much body fat you have.
Also the fat does have a function, without it the breasts wouldn't develop properly. It's needed through the lifespan of a woman from embryo through to pregnancy and lactation.
What we find sexually attractive is influenced by social norms but there are still secondary sex characteristics. I mean a antlers on a buck is just bone but that doesn't prevent does from finding a nice rack to be sexy AF.
@Ad_Quid_Orator yes I never said they're not ssc's. But being a ssc doesn't mean it's sexual or should be sexualized. Like body hair isn't sexualized. Most men think women with armpit hair are unattractive.
Again, those are sexually dimorphic traits, not secondary sex characteristics (in fact if they occur in both genders at puberty they aren't even sexually dimorphic traits).
A secondary sexual characteristic is a feature that evolved to attract a mate. Breasts originally evolved to nurture young but in humans they're permanently protuberant for their secondary function. Kinda like how peacock tail feathers originally evolved to steer in flight but they are used to attract mates.
@Ad_Quid_Orator "Underarm hair and pubic hair are usually considered secondary sex characteristics, but they may also be considered non-secondary sex characteristics because they are features of both sexes following puberty"
You're referring to animal studies which are comparing animals to humans as a reference. Humans are far too complicated to figure these things out about. We are influenced by so many things
OK, I guess we were using two separate meanings of the term. The one you were using is synonymous with sexually dimorphic traits while I was referring to those that evolved for the purpose of sexual attraction.
@Ad_Quid_Orator we are far more complex than animals. We have crazy social behaviors which factor into nearly everything we do. It's why we are so hard to study especially when it comes to attraction and why we are attracted to certain things. All I know is people who live in societies that aren't influenced by western media do not have sexual attraction or at least to the point the west does to beasts.
Yep, basically in short sexualizing breasts is a learned behavior influenced by society not something that just happens because you're a heterosexual male.
Just because something isn't as sexualized as it is in the US doesn't mean it's not a secondary sex characteristic. I mean even if the human body isn't as sexualized as it is in the US doesn't mean that people in those societies don't find people attractive. Why else would it make sense for humans to have permanently protuberant mammary glands when other mammals don't?
I mean you could probably make a case that cultural oversexualization of the breast is the reason so many men are uncomfortable with women breastfeeding in public (not that I am) but that's not the only reason that breasts are sexualized.
@Ad_Quid_Orator never said it wasn't a second sec characteristic. That has nothing to do with behavior, that is strictly just what your body does during puberty because you have testes or ovaries. The issue with people being uncomfortable with breastfeeding is they don't know where to draw a line, unsure where the boundary is. I'm not saying seeing breasts as sexual is a bad thing, I make money off sexualizing mine , I literally don't care that that's a thing. But most people know that breasts are only sexual when they are actively being sexualized by the person who's body they are on. If I'm in front of you rubbing my tits by all means sexualize them. If I whip a tit out and a baby latches to it, that is not sexual. A lot of people struggle to make that connection.
You saying these things as definite reasons is just wrong. Science has said time and time again that they don't know why humans have permanent breasts. There are theories based on other animals but no definitive answer.
What we do know is they are more sexualized in westernized societies.
They are more sexualized in western societies but that's not exclusive to western societies by any means. I mean there are nerves in there that trigger arousal not present in other mammals.
Well there could be other reasons that they remain large even when not nursing but stimulation of the breast is hardwired to trigger arousal. That would be unlikely to happen if sexual selection wasn't playing a role.
@Ad_Quid_Orator I disagree completely with that statement that is not true for every one. Not everyone with breasts are sexually stimulated when their breasts are stimulated... that is just not true.
@Ad_Quid_Orator it has stimulation because of breastfeeding. That's the stimulations purpose... Some people feel sexually aroused if their feet are touched, doesn't mean feet are supposed to be sexual.
Boobs don't know the difference between a baby and a grown man. Breastfeeding mothers often leak milk during sexy time because their breasts are being stimulated so milk comes out.
Interesting perspective. Although some people have foot fetishes and there are parts of the body besides the genital that are hardwired to trigger an erotic response and in pre-industrial China they were all about the feet which is where you get practices like foot binding.
But do you think societies for the lack of a better term arbitrarily chose what part of the body to sexualize or does it start off as one of many naturally occurring erogenous zones that then get over sexualized?
@Ad_Quid_Orator foot fetishes is actually an occurrence because of cross wiring in the brain. But yeah just because something is an erogenous zone doesn't mean it's sexual. Its an area with heightened sensitivity which happens to often in a lot of people cause a good sexual feeling but not everyone experiences these for every single place listed.
I’m not. It should be normalized. What gets me is we can normalize fags and trans but not breast feeding? WTF?
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Its a visual thing for us men. Although for me it doesn't really turn me on because i know thats not the vibe but i think there should be some effort to cover up because its in public where other chilldren are of all ages and some people might look at it as an oportunity to be a pervert even teens so i think its appropriate to be discreet or maby pump the milk before hand and use bottles in public as an option
See but who decided what's creepy? exactly the point, we can get into trouble just by looking the wrong way. I'm not against it by any means but ya act like there's no risk for us.
I wouldn't make a big deal about it unless you were being inappropriate, or trying to take pictures or record on your phone, in that case I would say something and if you didn't stop then I would record you lol
The only reason I think is, though a woman is married and have given birth, her breast is still powerful. Not many men have resistance for a woman's breast.
Because people nowadays have become too sensitive and complain about it, others don't care at all, others are passed off about for whatever reason and then there are the psychos who get turned on by it
I welcome it. I just have to try my best NOT to stare... I really don't mean to stare. I just LOVE boobers! I can't get enough of them. So soft and warm.
i don’t have a problem when women are subtle when they do it like putting a blanket over the baby or standing in the the back of a room. there’s some women that are just way too overt when they do it out in the open it’s just like wtf lady 🤦♂️
Because a guy needs to be careful where he looks. Even if he isn’t looking at the woman’s breasts and is looking past her. She could still yell pervert and make trouble for the man!
Not uncomfortable, it's just uncommon. It's hard NOT to look :D I'm a guy, I simply love boobs despite knowing it's nothing sexual in a breastfeeding moment.
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