Yes, I support it 100% because people should have more opened mind and think about further more important things than just skin color or someone’s nationality or beliefs.
@daejahdabree white people don't have a culture? Go to Italy then Russia, then Ireland, then Greece, then Spain, then Romania. White people have culture same as any group of people. If you live in the USA you just live in a bastardized society with no direction because it's been too heavily corporatized
Yes thus colorism exist or gay vs straight exist etc etc. But solving one problem is better than solving none. But you are right in this post on blindness is going about it the wrong way. I propose that we give people an awareness so strong that it rids of racism sooner or later undoubtedly. And this awareness comes from the proof that science and historical record have proven race doesn't exist, not to be confused with ethnicity. If race is the cause of racism then we have the cure. But we must all become so aware that it becomes apart of our habitual way of thinking. Getting this taught in the schools would be a great first step.
@PoliteSpeaker Nice idea. But awareness is only effective on people who can take in words and information to their heart. If all or majority people were that way, world would have been a better place.
While I like the intent, I also don't think blinding ourselves to diversity is the answer.
I'm a person of colour, who's grown up with an extremely diverse upbringing. My parents were immigrants, I learned both French and English growing up to be "more Canadian" (parents idea), and my friends are a mix of generational North Americans, Europeans, Vietnamese, Filipino, Brazilian, Ugandan, Colombian, Japanese, etc.
I love being able to talk culture, cuisine, different traditions, etc with people from all over the world.
Multiculturalism and diversity aren't bad or scary. They often result in delicious food fusion, new and diverse music, and a greater sense of understanding and empathy towards others.
I like having darker skin and "odd" food (though Filipino food isn't odd in my community - we have an entire category for it on our meal delivery services). I like seeing and meeting others with different backgrounds, cultures, and languages.
There's a kaleidoscope of colours, cultures, and people out there. And last I checked, kaleidoscopes are pretty fucking cool.
No colorblind erases someone's differences it's part of what put America behind a lot of countries with race relations. America ignored the differences of people that aren't white. Different hair colors, different hair texture. Tried to pretend white was the only color and all other races sat back ignored neglected. Choose to learn and understand people with different colors and skin than yourself so that we can understand what struggles eachother have faced so we can grow closer as a society instead of pretending it doesn't exist. The problem is that when people that are of a different color than ourselves talk about what they go through someone, rolls their eyes because they don't understand because they never faced it
Colorblind means you literally cannot see color. I don't define people by the color of their skin. It is a choice to treat others with respect, it's a choice not to. We ARE all the same. But physically we are also different. That doesn't mean we aren't human. We just have different physical traits and qualities. I don't understand why anybody wants to force that on another person. Children naturally do not do that. They may notice the difference, but they don't define people by the color of their skin. We were taught that.
At a very basic level it sounds great, however it then means certain parts of culture become eroded or ignored or ‘you can’t do that comes in to it’.
Also even without colour, there is enough discrimination and humans find new ways to scorn and abuse others.
the UK for example, Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English, if you just picked the white members of the UK, then you get insults etc flung around and real discrimination based on accents alone.
While it’s a noble idea I think it would have an overall detrimental impact,
why can we not simply just be nice to each other, irrespective of Gender, Sexuality, ethnicity / Race, Religion..
Yeah that will never happen. I don't know what everyone's obsession is with reducing race to skin color anyways. There's way more genetic differences besides appearance, including bone structure, vocal cords, and behavior. There are even differences between ethnicities of the same race. All people are not the same, that's a good thing and sometimes a bad thing. The identity politics game that lefists are playing makes the problem exponentially worse. When people talk about race all the time, it amplifies peoples differences and makes it harder to get along.
I think it sounds nice but it´s close to impossible because we all have learned prejudices about certain groups of people. Oftentimes it´s really hard to disguise if an incedent just happened because of racism or because the members of this group make the majority of the criminal statistics in a country. Nevertheless are cases like Georg Floyd where the officers uses more aggression than necessary. Still I don´t think that´s possible that everybody is "colourblind", because the human brain functions by putting people in certain boxes to organize them in categories to help us determine whether they are important to us or not.
That's what we HAD till Obummer came along, then BLM and Antifa, and now all of the racist marxists that hate white people. They want to go BACK to segregation, racial quotas, profiling. Worse, equal opportunity is now not good enough, it has to be 'equity', or equal outcome. So if you're fukkin dumb and lazy and can only get a part time job flipping burgers, you should be able to buy a house, raise a family, be entitled to the 'American dream'. Sure. I'm sure glad I'm almost dead. LOL I just feel sorry for my kids. Especially my youngest - a white christian male - the most hated of all human beings.
Don't have to be "colorblind" to be accepting of people and respectful of different ethnicities and cultures. . We're all different 'colors," even if you're the same ethnicity... Skin color is just melatonin... People of different ethnicities might have different cultural behaviors but we should all have decency and respect towards one another..
All day, everyday. I dont see a difference by color. Just by generalized culture and what people will and will not accept. But more and more barriers break down everyday and it's extremely encouraging. People aren't shamed anymore for being who they want to be with based on skin color or who they are friends with. I mean you have some last hold outs but who cares? they are a dying breed.
Of course. But I really doubt that existing society can be turned into that with the snap of a finger or a law. You have to start your own community where everyone really believes that and teaches it to their kids. A place where people who do bad things get kicked out or worse, regardless of what they look like.
Re: update... even? Not what I see. The poll says 2x as many guys vote yes as no while females are evenly split. Not that GAG polls have much meaning tho
NO If you're talking about race, no. If you're talking about colorism, yes. But I think colorism is largely due to racism. You are not the right track but you don't need to pretend. Science and historical record have proven race doesn't exist, not to be confused with ethnicity. So that is the cure. That awareness is the cure not pretending. WE DONT NEED TO PRETEND because it really doesn't exist. If racism is the cause of colorism then it shall fix that too in due time. The 2nd step is to create an awareness in man so deep that this truth becomes mans habitual way of thought. And the first great step I believe is to teach this in school and provide the evidence and in doing so the kids can educate the parents and the next generation will be free from this lie.
Hmm no. Mostly because I feel like this would take away people's culture which for a lot of people is their whole livelihood Not to mention living surrounded by different beautiful cultures is amazing. I see color, but color doesn't change the way I see people.
Yeah, the only downfall to a quesiton like this is it's not realistic. As nice as it would be to live in a colorblind society... we all know damn well that isn't gonna happen. We all have bias, we all judge... it's just part of being human. I think we should focus more on not allowing our bias or judgement to affect how we treat others.
I agree with the what you said in the details but I dont like the term "colourblind". There's nothing wrong with colour. It almost sounds like people want to make it socially unacceptable to acknowledge someone's race or ethnicity. We should all be free to discuss our differences, we should talk about it. Why do we have to act like there aren't any? Just be respectful. Its not that hard.
It doesn't even make any sense. And I quote from the American Anthropological Association. . .
Historical research has shown that the idea of "race" has always carried more meanings than mere physical differences; indeed, physical variations in the human species have no meaning except the social ones that humans put on them.
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The media would never support such ideas, They are the Number one spreader of racism... Why? because it pays them well in ratings... They need conflict and drama to survive. All Main Stream Media promotes hate and violence against other races... Especially CNN and FOX.
Just the other day I saw some dumb MSM article of the last recued woman in 9/11 being "black"... What's race have to do with being rescued? Thousands of people were murdered and half of them were vaporized in the collapses at the Trade Center, Volunteers were outside for 20 hours a day trying to find people and their friends/family in rugged steel, asbestos dust and concrete mounds that were 250 feet deep, And your pushing a race narrative on 9/11 survivors? like WTF?
Yes I think that’s what we need and it’s what we used to strive for but nowadays the left wants to separate us by skin color because identity politics is all they really got to work with
No. Let me set you straight. You are on the right path but you need a bit of adjusting. Race doesn't exist. Science and historical record have proven this. Not to be confused with ethnicity. So you see the cause of racism is the lie of race. So what you are wishing for is impossible because labels by their very nature separate things. You do not treat a woman the same as you treat a man. You do not treat a child the same as an adult. You do not treat a lion the same as a tiger. The things I have used as examples may be actually different but a so called white person and a black person are scientifically the same just as much as an individual is the same as another individual biologically. In fact, there are more difference between the ethnicities in Africa than there are between white people and black people. If race is the cause of racism then how do we get rid of racism? It is simple. Is it possible? Through science & historical record yes it is. We need only to make everyone so aware that it becomes apart of their habitual thinking. Sorry if typos
Now if this post is about colorism then that is something else.
I would, too many however would not. It's almost impossible to live peacefully next to a group who demands to have their own culture within our culture. The two cultures will eventually come into conflict and I don't think any of us want that. We all need to be on the same page, seeing each other as just people, and having most of our values be similiar.
We can pretend but ultimately, colour will always be there. Even if it’s black and white. There are different shades in that spectrum as well. there’s no magical turn off colour button. We can all play oblivious but there will always be others who take notice
The "what if we all agree to" thing would work for literally any system. The problem is we won't all agree. And so the challenge is to come up with a "what if we don't all agree" system. Which we might have (democracy), but sadly that's a little to unsatisfying for a lot of people.
In a literal sense?: No, I count myself lucky enough to have the x chromosome in my xy combo be the extra color vision one. Why on earth would I want to be colorblind?
In a figurative sense?: Also no, biological diversity is a good thing, ignoring it's existence is stupid, and tbh a bit racist.
I see no need for that, if everyone would use his brains. There's nothing negative to me in seeing (noticing) differences between each other's physical or ethnical background. But that should not dictate the way we interact, or the way we 'value' each other.
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American. Uneducated and ignorant of the world. Colorism is simple and is really only predominant in countries like yours that has no real culture, pride in its culture or history, etc.
In other countries culturism, regionalism, etc are other issues that have to be dealt with and are harder to deal with. The Welsh as example are often as pale or paler even than English but they're still harassed, etc. There's strife between different groups in India, etc
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If all races were actually treated the same and there was no need to differentiate between then yeah. But sadly many people like to miss treat minorities and judge them more harshly than others so we need to make The difference clear so that we can address the problem
Race doesn't exist. Science and historical record have proven this. Not to be confused with ethnicity. So you see the cause of racism is the lie of race. So what you are wishing for is impossible because labels by their very nature separate things. You do not treat a woman the same as you treat a man. You do not treat a child the same as an adult. You do not treat a lion the same as a tiger. The things I have used as examples may be actually different but a so called white person and a black person are scientifically the same just as much as an individual is the same as another individual biologically. In fact, there are more difference between the ethnicities in Africa than there are between white people and black people. If race is the cause of racism then how do we get rid of racism? It is simple. Is it possible? Through science & historical record yes it is. We need only to make everyone so aware that it becomes apart of their habitual thinking. Sorry if typos
Noice. Now we just need to make people understand that animals are people too. Except for spiders. I don’t care about them to be honest, they scare me too much. Are plants people? It’s said that they’re alive, but I don’t even know if they’re their own race
When I was married, one day, a guy came to my door and asked me if I knew where 2 Chinese girls lived. My now ex. was from the Philippines, and I am a pale skinned male born in the USA. It never occurred to me that he was talking about my ex and my daughter because he said Chinese. I thought I would just throw that into the conversation.
Race is a part of our culture and makes us who we are. I think if we were all the same then we lose a part of our identity. It would certainly cure a lot of turmoil but it would certainly make the world a lot more boring.
The problem isn't being aware of someone's ethnicity. The problem is ascribing traits to everyone of that ethnicity and treating them differently. You don't need to be colourblind to treat everyone equally
I think we can acknowledge that there are differences in ethnicity while those differences do no make anyone better than other or below others. Everyone is equal.
You have one dislike but you are wiser than those who are older. You understand that labels by their very nature separate things. And if we are talking about racism and not colorism then the only way to rid of racism is to go to the cause and kill it. Not to pretend it doesn't exist. We must PROVE it does not exist and we have done that. Science and historical record prove race doesn't exist, not to be confused with ethnicity.
Exactly. Science doesn’t exist, race was a concept made by literal racists, the people that invented the concept of racism used it to justify enslaving many people and we use it today. Ethnicity is the only thing that actually matters in my opinion because ethnicity connects people, culture wise/music/food/etc and that is beautiful and shouldn’t be separated. It should be shared respectfully.
Looks like someone doesn’t even read their own damn research
“You inherit HLA genes from each of your parents. These genes then code for the proteins, or markers, on your cells. Siblings are often good candidates for donors because they are more likely to have the same HLA markers as you. However, about 70% of patients needing a transplant do not have a fully matched donor in their family, and they must use a registry of unrelated donors for help.
Race and ethnicity impact HLA markers. Certain combinations of HLA markers may be common to an ethnic group because of its evolutionary history. This commonality makes matches more likely among people of the same ethnicity or race. For example, African Americans have more diverse HLA markers than other people, which makes finding a match more challenging. People who are of mixed-race descent may also have HLA markers that are relatively unique and therefore more difficult to match.”
The article clearly says that it matters because you need a matching bone marrow structure thing which is why it’s easy to get it from a Family member.
People are diverse and unique, wow that’s so crazy. Who would’ve guessed. Your stupid article doesn’t change the fact that race is a social construct that doesn’t exist and is made up. Race is only based on phenotypes, that’s a fact. You did nothing to prove otherwise because even science says so.
@doopayo You straight up contradicted yourself. here's the bottom line, there shouldn't need to be racial stratification in regards of the law. However, there's so much Genetic Drift, you can't just swap out organs like Lego bricks.
Since when did two articles equal multiple articles, I provided actually research based biology and you refuse to read it or even make arguments against anything I’ve said so if you aren’t going to add anything constructive to the conversation than you can stop wasting your time looking like a fool and leave
You openly contradicted yourself multiple times. The angry screech of the indoctrinated. here's some quotes from your second article and it conclusion.
"Additionally, undetected population structure in case-control association studies can result in false positive association66,67. Thus, knowledge of ethnicity (not just broad geographic ancestry) and statistical tests of substructure are important for proper design of casecontrol association studies and for identifying disease predisposing alleles that may differ across ethnic groups. The particular identifier used (language, ethnicity, geographic origin, religion) will depend on the particular study and the hypotheses being tested. For example, use of religion as a descriptor will be important if discussing diseases prevalent in Jewish populations, which may result from genetic drift due to founder effect68 (e. g., Tay Sachs, Torsion dystonia, breast cancer and Gaucher disease)."
"Understanding the global distribution of genetic variation is bio-medically important, but we emphasize that existence of differences, however small, should not be a basis for discrimination. Statementslike “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are createdequal...” (US Declaration of Independence, 1776) reflect morality, notscience. One can accept this moral imperative and still recognize thatall individuals, independently conceived, are genetically unique."
I made the case that Ethnicity does indeed play a role in biomedical fields, you apparently agreed. There for Ethnicity is a concrete and real thing.
Race: A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as distinct by society. The term was first used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations. By the 17th century the term began to refer to physical traits.
Ethnicity: An ethnic group or ethnicity is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups such as a common set of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion, or social treatment within their residing area.
No… first off why the fuck does it matter. A Black idiots just as stupid as a white idiot. Also it wouldn’t work then we’d just see shades.
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Maybe America destroyed every other country through wars so that everyone would leave their country to join America so that it can erase all our identities and make us one groups of people through globalization and rule over us all at once
No. The idea of being colorblind is dumb. I don't want you to be colorblind, I want you to be able to separate me and my actions from my skin color. In essence I want you to ask "If you were me and I were you, what would you want me to do?".
When it comes to something professional that doesn't really involve race, sure. But there are gonna be movies about medieval Europe or anything like that, it would be odd to make the characters Black or Asians.
That's what the communists wanted but now they say it's racist to be color blind. The existence of their "oppressed pets" is the most important thing in the world.
In a fantasy world, sure. In reality, that's impossible. And walking through life claiming to be colorblind in a society that is the opposite of colorblind, is kinda counter productive.
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Will never happen.
“If only everybody could see past colour”
A large number of people never will.
Which means that attempting to create one will always lead to conflict.
Why do you need that colour of all kinds are good. it is personal preference what someone likes. Some one like white people it is their choice same goes for everyone.
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