On the other hand… all KKK and Neo-Nazis looove Trump.
Does it bother you all Nazis are Republicans?
On the other hand… all KKK and Neo-Nazis looove Trump.
The premise of the question is utter tripe. There is no connection between the two and it is interesting that the questioner proffers no corroboration.
To start, who said this: "I am a socialist, and a very different kind of socialist from your rich friend Count Reventlow." The year was 1930, and the writer was a rising German politician named Adolf Hitler.
In short, presuming that the questioner meant to draw a connection between the nominally right wing views of Republicans and Nazis, the comparison does not bear scrutiny. The Nazis - as the name National Socialist German Workers Party suggests - were a part of the left.
The reason for the bitter antipathy between the Nazis and the Socialists was that the latter defined the motivating force of History - with a capital "H" - as being economics and class war. The Nazis defined the motive force of History as being a clash of the races.
This was an argument within the family, so to speak. Each thinking that they were defining the nature of Truth - with a capital "T" - for socialism and thus each viewing the other within a zero sum game. Only one side of this socialist argument could be right.
Further, American political parties are not ideological parties as you tend to see in Europe. Rather they are lose knit coalitions of regional, religious, ethnic, racial, income and other groups that have come together in part by common interests and in part by historical accident.
In the case of the GOP, it is a coalition made up of classical liberals - which Americans call conservatives - libertarians, small and medium sized business, religious and social traditionalists, lower middle and upper middle income earners, farmers, rural and exurban populations, and historically older voters. It tends to dominate the South, the Great Plains, the Rocky Mountain West and the state of Alaska - though this is starting to change somewhat.
On the Democratic side you get, ethnic and religious minorities, middle and high income wage earners, big business and entertainment industries, urban and inner suburban votes, radical liberals - which Americans call liberals. (Note, the term "radical" here does not mean as Americans use it, i. e. "extremist," but rather as the ancient Greeks used the term, meaning "to the root of.") The regions where it is dominant are northeast, the mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast and the state of Hawaii. (Though again, this is starting to change and is one of the reasons that Mrs. Clinton was defeated in 2016.)
Thus to characterize Republicans in explicitly ideological terms - let alone to suggest that "all Nazis" are Republicans is to ignore much complexity and conflate many identities. Indeed, for all that, which explicitly Socialist politician caucuses with the Democrats in Congress? See also Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
Thus, if we were to follow the logic - if such a sweeping generalization, not to say slander, can be called logic - where would we be more likely to find Nazis? Which party emphasizes race? On which side do we find "political correctness?"
Of course, the point is absurd. Nazis in America are very thin on the ground and - oh by the way, have their own political party. See also the American Nazi Party. This question then suggesting that the questioner is at best ignorant of the pedigree of the ideas he purports to discuss. At worst, content to use slander as a substitute for reasoned argument.
We’ve had this discussion before about Hitler and socialism- so we’ll sidestep that. But you can’t deny all contemporary Nazis vote republicans.
I’ll say all commies vote Dem or Green Party. Only difference: we don’t have terrorist groups based on communism in this country. At least not ones that plot to kidnap guvs or invade the Capitol.
On the first point. Nope. We won't sidestep it. It is central to the relationship between ideas. Ideas are NOT random, but are related to each other and have a distinct history. We did not get to where we are by accident.
As to the latter point, please show some corroborating data. Bald assertions do not a fact make. The idea that Nazis are Republicans is no more valid than the idea that Communist are Democrats. History utterly disproves the argument and you are merely trading in stereotypes.
Oh boy…we’ve discussed Hitler’s relationship to “socialism”. Historians are pretty agreed that he used it as marketing. Which is why historians agree Nazis are right wing.
And Nazis and KKK vote Republican. Every time:
www.haaretz.com/.../...s-in-u-s-midterms-1.6111755
On the first point, I prefer the examine the ideas themselves as opposed to what others say about those ideas. Besides, are you suggesting that socialists heard things that they disagreed with but then said, "But hey, he's a socialist, so I will support him?"
Politics no more worked that way then than it does now.
As to the article, not terribly convincing. So me polling data and sociological research. Again, by the logic here, the Democrats have a Communist problem. (To paraphrase a line from the article.)
You can hardly do serious analysis on the basis of such a superficial article. Not to mention that Haaretz carries, to say no more, its' own biases. A neutral media outlet it is not.
If you remove all labels, Republicans align quite well with Nazis. I’m sorry that that’s uncomfortable for you to accept.
@ThrowAwayx404 Do explain, with direct references to "Mein Kempf" and recent GOP party platforms. Also, please reconcile the ideological nature of the Nazi Party with the non-ideological coalition nature of BOTH American parties.
Otherwise, bald assertions do not facts make.
Conservative. See also Lincoln - a classical conservative. Recall that America was born out of the Enlightenment traditions that led to two schools of liberalism. Jefferson representing "radical" liberalism. (Note: "Radical" here does NOT mean as we use the term today, i. e. "extremist." Rather it refers to ancient Greek usage, meaning "to the root of.")
Hamilton represented the classical liberal tradition. "That government is best which governs least."
Please note,. Jefferson believed that to sustain the country it was necessary to divide it into a sturdy rural yeomanry - and hence de facto he became the defender of slavery and also founder of the modern Democratic party. Hamilton believed in industrialism and in using money power to break up what he called a slaveholding oligarchy. He is also considered the predecessor to the Republican party.
In this came - without going into too much detail - the Whig party almost by historical accident, which represented the classical conservative tradition tracing back to Burke. Lincoln, a former Whig, switched to the GOP and brought with him classical conservatism into the GOP. Thus giving us the GOP we have today.
Space limitations preclude me going into further detail, however that is the intellectual history in brief outline. Thus also how the GOP became the party that made possible the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act.
Sorry if you don't care. That is the reality of the underlying ideas and concepts. You are simply the prisoner of concepts and ideas that you do not understand.
Kennedy and Connor were the products of the ideas that came before them. For all that, please note that Kennedy avoided civil rights in office like the plague. He did not lead his own party on that issue. (See also the aforementioned Bull Connor, who was also a Democrat.)
Please, instead of slapping around empty slogans and caricatures, buy a book or two. You may be a "self-made man who worships his creator," but that does not mean anyone owes you obeisance just because you presume to pronounce on things that you clearly do not understand.
You write a lot and say absolutely nothing. No one gives a shit about what Republicans use to support. This bullshit is only brought up to distract from the fact that today’s GOP is an absolute dumpster fire is abject racist, undemocratic pieces of shit. So, yeah…sure…by all means hang on to the glory of yester-year, or perhaps more accurately, yester-half-decade, because the GOP has nothing to be proud of today. It’s pathetic that you think people today should care about what Republicans use to support. No one gives a shit about that except today’s Republicans who want credit for shit they didn’t do and had nothing to do with, because as we have all seen, there is nothing respectable and admirable about today’s GOP.
@ThrowAwayx404 So, okay, explain it - without vulgarity.
Relate the ideas you hear out of the GOP as they conduce to National Socialism. Keeping in mind that the ideas - particularly of the latter - have not seen much development since 1945. Please reference sources and explain context.
As to saying a lot but not saying very much - the accusation against me is not unlike being called "ugly" by a frog.
I love how you think you’re clever by continuing to use the phrase “National Socialist” as if the Nazis were actually socialists. But I get that you have to do this because you have nothing intelligent to sayrThis on its own illustrates you’re far too fucking stupid to be taken seriously. This is a cheap semantic trick and illustrator shows that you don’t have a a clue who the Nazis were or what the word socialist means.
So no, I’m not going to play this game with you where I have to educate you. That’s you’re responsibility, not mine.
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@ThrowAwayx404 Well, don't tell me, tell Hitler. To repeat his quote: "I'm a socialist, but a very different kind of socialist than your rich friend Count Revntlow."
Besides, to be clear, I am specifying that Hitler was - as his sentence suggests - a variant. Just as Leninism and Maoism were variants.
Again, you might do well to delve a bit into the history of these ideas on which you so confidently pronounce.
Hitler doesn't need to be told what he is, but you definitely need to be educated on the fact that he wasn't a socialist, because truth is all you have is a weak link based on the fact that Nazi's were supposedly "socialists". It's not true and continuing to rely on this deliberate lie just shows you need to be told all this much more so than Hitler.
@ThrowAwayx404 So then why did he call himself a socialist? Ya think he might know? Oh, and by the way, have you read "Mein Kempf"? Have you read Marx or the other socialist theorists?
Just for the record, I have an academic background in political philosophy. What is your background in this area?
You realize nazi'sm was a socialist political party right, which aligns with. It's short for the nationalist socialist german workers party. The KKK was also a backed by democrats during the civil rights movement. Current democrat members of congress have also made anti-semetic comments like AOC, illhan Omar, and others who have voiced their disdain of Israel.
You also realize that swastika logo in the picture you chose is meant to suggest that the people pushing the jab are the nazi's, but that one flew right over your head, which isn't surprising. Kind of funny you actually think this person is a nazi lol.
There is no correlation between Nazi'ism and conservatism when the ideologies are polar opposites. Nazi's were fascist and expected a strict adherence to what the state wanted. The collective and the nation was more important than the individual. They also used groups like the brown shirts to violently punish people who didn't agree with their ideology. All that sounds very much like today's democrat party to me. Antifa and BLM threatening people eating dinner and running business who refuse to bow down, a believe that individual rights do not take precedence over that of the collective community, a belief in a socialist economic system. The democrat party is pretty much a text book example of Nazi'sm, marxism, and fascsm.
@Juxtapose Dems are slaves to corporate donors like Repubs, but they’re closer to liberal politics. But if racists had as much pull as in the Repub party I wouldn’t vote Dem.
Hitler promised socialist policies, just like all the times Trump promised better, cheaper health care for all.
khn.org/.../
It was (and is) marketing by people who want power for its own sake.
@ThrowAwayx404 There are a lot of them, aren't there? (The link was to someone else's question: Why do so many Americans believe the nazis were socialists? ↗ )
I figured & am not surprised -- && it's one of many things that bother me
I think National Socialist says it all, they were Democrats
They were extremely far right.
You clearly failed civics class.
@chef
Since when are socialists far right? Yes, I know you can’t tolerate the fact that the Nazis were left wing. Maybe you should switch sides so as not to be in league with those who have much common ground with Nazis.
@ChefPapiChulo they can't be far right since they were pro union and social welfare programs.
@Exterminatore you both need to go back to school and learn what you're talking about
@Chef
Though it is against my better judgment I’ll try to educate you.
Socialism - left wing economic philosophy invented by Karl Marx.
Nazi - National Socialist German Workers Party.
How can one be a socialist and right wing? Socialism is left wing. If the Nazis were socialists then they were…surprise, surprise left wing.
Leftist have done all they could to distance themselves from Nazis by trying to make Nazism right wing. In fact CTR sounds eerily similar to the Nazi racial purity program. Leftists want to make Nazism right wing, so as to not be associated with it and make the ideology seem similar to conservatism. Yet, leftists embrace communism. They don’t try to distance themselves from Bolshevism. Only from Nazism. Hate to inform you but the Bolsheviks in Russia set up the Russian communist system which murdered about 25 million Soviet citizens. Hitler only murdered 6 million Jews, and 5 million others for a total of 11 million. The Soviets murdered roughly 14 million (more than double) than the Nazis murdered.
It is not us who needs to go back to school but you who needs to stop watching CNN.
@Exterminatore wow you actually spent time writing that nonsense lol. Try harder.
@ChefPapiChulo these people are idiots.
@Exterminatore you are truly fucking stupid.
@ChefPapiChulo don’t educate them unless they pay you. Higher education isn’t free. There’s no reason to educate these dumb fucks.
@ThrowAwayx404 its just bad trollling lmao
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Do you know how incredibly easy it was to convert a socialist to fascism in the 30's and vice versa? It's because they're two sides of the same collectivist, totalitarian coin. They're both bastard spawns of Marxism. It simply isn't in the liberal psyche to be afraid that the world is about to be converted into fascism like it is with the socialists.
Just something that I thought you should know.
All Nazi’s can’t be republicans. Nazism is national socialism. Conservatives in America stand against socialism. Nazism is left wing, not right wing. Nazism is just as obsessed with race as leftists are. Republicans would be closer to fascists than Nazis. The Nazis were fascists. They were also Nazis. All that Aryan crap was part of Nazism and not fascism.
Does it bother you all Bolsheviks are Democrats?
Antifa and BLM are. I do not believe in the “white supremacy” myth. I hear this a lot from left wing sources. That white supremacy or white nationalism is rife in this country. It simply isn’t. There are undoubtedly neo nazis and other evil groups who exist, however the amount of them very small. Any street gang in any major city is far more of a menace and danger than whites supremacist types.
No. There are many factors involved for people who are against illegal immigration. Very few are motivated by simply keeping people with brown skin out.
There are no economic benefits to illegal immigration. We have plenty of uneducated, unskilled laborers here. We don’t need to import more and provide for them through social programs.
The virulently liberal Bush Center disagrees
www.bushcenter.org/.../...tion-outweigh-costs.html
And the Cato institute:
https://www.cato.org/immigration
I don’t care what the Bush Center or Kato Institute says. When you add up the free social programs plus not paying taxes on roads they use, schools they use, income tax they’re not paying because they can’t be hired legally there is no way they’re a benefit to the economy. Plus they send lots of money back to their homeland
So what if they do? They don’t pay taxes that fund welfare, food stamps and what SSI pays out for their medical care. That gets funded and paid for through social security. Meanwhile they keep raising the age at which someone can collect social security so foreign national non citizens who pay no taxes except sales tax can have medical care when they shouldn’t be here to start with.
Tell me again how being against illegal immigration is about skin color. No one really cares what color skin these illegals have. What people do care about is paying higher taxes for their expenses. None of them contribute any economic benefit to my household but they sure do take in the form of taxes.
My ancestors immigrated here legally. That’s the difference.
Why shouldn’t they be here? I already gave you a few reasons. I’m not interested in making less money because more is taken in taxes to support them.
They’re not closed now. They were closed previously due to covid.
I’m still waiting for you to address how being against illegal immigration is a racial issue and not other issues.
My ex wife was Mexican. How many racists marry people from the race they’re against?
This for me is purely a financial and security issue. It is an issue of national sovereignty. It is an issue of rule of law. I care not what color these people are. How did I marry a Mexican if I’m racist against them for being against illegal immigration? Had several Mexican born girlfriends who were here LEGALLY as well.
FYI I’m against whites from Eastern Europe or from anywhere else who come on student visas then vanish into the American landscape or come illegally and they should all be sent back to their own countries.
You know very well racial motivations are not even a factor for most people who are against illegal immigration.
Yes it’s a pain in the ass, frankly I hate the fact that they don’t have there own party that no one will vote for, frankly I would like to purge them form the party. The only thing we have in common is we both like Trump. Yes at the beginning Trump wink and nodded to the what I call the alt right. Which I spoke out against it. I don’t think Trump himself is a white supremacist he better at falling the crowd where he’s at.
If that was the case I would be fully libertarian, I’m about to ask a question detailing what I think center right and center left is. Probably come in the morning given that it’s 2:15 am.
Now libertarians are considered part right for some reason, and unfortunately the party itself cannot be taken seriously when you have a naked fat guy dancing at your convention, if it was a naked girl with a nice body everyone would vote for that party (sex sell) but we have a 2 party System where right wing libertarians like me get rotating with those alt right white supremacists. Fuck those guys
Im for treating every race sexual LGB don’t kill T if they trick someone they do deserve a punch you get 1. But they isolated this particular thought into being right wing I would be centrist white ring but according to current Democrat party I’m far right. A brother and sister are half black I’m adopted one my best friends is Jamaican on my other best friends is Yakima native and yet I’m a white supremacists doing the same work they are and my brother is the manager of his own recreational marijuana operation. So how the fuck am I a white supremacist racist just because I think that capitalism is the best system and small government is important and let people follow the religion they want to follow the only Way any of that shit matters in my personal life is when it comes to the person I’m going to fall in love with yeah that I’m trying to make sure that we continue functioning as a society and then the laugh is right I don’t think the rise rate they both have valid points you’re not gonna change me on abortion just like the right is not going to change me on weed
Democrats are much closer to Nazi ideals and policies than Republicans are. You need to learn actual history instead of just propaganda you see on TV.
@Juxtapose... is stupid.
Bloody site re-formatted what I typed. Basically the opinion is stupid.
The idea that mandating vaccines (or regular frequent testing, by the way, something that often gets ignored), like George Washington did for smallpox in the Continental Army, is anything like having their followers attack the centre of government, like the Nazis and Trump did, is stupid.
www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-votes-joe-biden-hell-libertarian-ideology-1544572
Lol, I’d say you’re an idiot who won’t at least be man enough to take the L.
Your wife didn’t think I was a homo when I was rearranging her guts.
Don’t rag on your wife like that. She was a lovely woman.
Bruh. Don’t slag your wife like that. Sheesh. No wonder she keeps begging me to come back over.
It’s a shame you’d call your wife that, and misgender her on top of it. I guess I’ll come over tonight. If you’re really good and don’t cry while I’m railing her, I’ll get you that Xbox game you’ve been wanting.
One thing morons always do is compare any political side they dislike to the Nazis.
Notice how in her profile image the swastika is made of syringes? That’s because she’s calling the liberals Nazis.
All Nazis are also not republicans. Some like Richard Spencer voted for Biden.
Re-read my answer again, mongo.
Spencer himself has said it multiple times.
He voted for Biden in 2020. He spoke about it a lot leading up to it and afterwards.
No idea why he did that, but that’s what he did. Trump wasn’t an ethnonationalist anyway.
The fact of the matter is there are extremist groups on both sides of the political equation. While it's potentially frightening that these extremists may try to get into power, as long as there are enough people of reasonable sound and mind on both ends of the political scale to prevent it, we got nothing to worry about.
I think it's safe to say that anyone that sees these extremist groups speak or act will see them for what exactly they are, a bunch of f****** idiots.
People on the right know. They’re like this behind closed doors. But what’s funny is when they say the left are communist. Even tho the left isn’t even close to being communist or socialist lol. But you have these people in the millions who are KKK and neo nazis.
Most right wing voters are uneducated. What you expect? 😂
@ThrowAwayx404 at this point nothing. Their party is headed downhill fast. Its a shame because our government is going to become all democrat unless the republicans can change their thinking to fit a more modern society.
Hitler and his cronies offered social welfare programs and safety nets, were anti gun, and were pro union plus they hated religion. Does that sound like Republicans to you?
its not though. Racisms doesn't base itself on either side of the political spectrum. It would be the same as me comparing a leftist to a member of the Klan, who were Democrats. Or calling them all genocidal maniacs like Stalin or Mao. I dont think this way about either side. You worry about vocal minorities of asshats in both sides. I'm a true centrist and i believe in compromises on most issues to keep the peace. But I'd rather see the states balkanized than to be forced to live a lie projected by either side.
Are they? The nazis had an intense dialogue with the democrats.
Hitler quite literally copied some of their socialist talking points.
Including ethnic cleansing through abortions and sterilisation.
It’s always funny to watch people who support a racist bigot president like Trump try to call other people out.
@ThrowAwayx404 How's he racist?
How's he bigoted?
He wasn't the one who said black boys are predators.
Sorry, I’m not going to entertain your willful stupidity. He a racist, bigoted piece of shit. “HoW iS hE RACiSt?” is about the stupidest, deliberately ignorant question anyone can ask. “He WaSn’T tHe OnE tHaT sAiD bLaCk BoYs ArE pReDaToRs” 🙄 nah, he just demonized black people who wanted police to stop killing them. He called Mexicans murders and rapists. GTFOH with your willful deliberate ignorance.
@ThrowAwayx404 All Mexicans?
Seriously?
Also, is Mexican an ethnicity not a nationality?
Besides, wasn't he talking about the government and cartels?
Also, since when is MS13 Mexican?
“Mexican” is what racists call Hispanics, because they’re far too fucking stupid to realize there’s 20+ Spanish speaking, nations of brown people in Central and South America.
And no, he wasn’t talking about the government. He LITERALLY said, “When Mexico sends its PEOPLE…”. Also, Mexico doesn’t “send” anyone. PEOPLE chose to migrate to the US.
Like, c’mon, you seriously can be this fucking stupid. This is how we all know Trump cocksuckers are uneducated, racist, dumb fucks. Because Trump can say objectively stupid shit like this and all you Trump cocksuckers are like “WhAt’S wRoNg WiTh WhAt hE sAiD?”
And lastly, MS-13 was started n 1980s IN THE US by Salvadorians, not Mexicans, but Trump didn’t say that. He just shitted on Mexicans because like I said, when you’re an ignorant, uneducated racist piece of shit, anyone brown and from south of Texas is “Mexican”.
And lastly, “Mexican” and “cartels” are two different words. If he was talking about cartels, he should have said “cartels”. But no, he said “Mexicans” because in his racist mind, it’s all the same thing anyway, amirite?
Good lord, you Trump cocksuckers are truly the stupidest fucking people to not see how obviously and blatantly racist he is. But it’s ok, I understand that you Trump cocksuckers are racist pieces of shit too, so of course you’re not gonna see anything wrong with a racist piece of shit like Trump, because at the end of the day, you’re cut from the same cloth.
@ThrowAwayx404 Nope, Mexicans are nationals from Mexico.
Also, actually the cartels quite literally send people. Considering the tight interplay between Mexican deep/shadow government and the cartels, his speech makes a lot in of sense.
Also, as a third world monkey I can say that our government does all it can not to hemorrhage it's "it's best" to north America and Europe, and it's very helpful to emigrating low skill workers.
And yeah, there's a difference between the whole Mexican government and it's deep/shadow state, but not so much from the latter and Mexican organized crime.
It's not much different here in Brazil, by the way.
"Mexicans are nationals from Mexico."
Did you figure that one out yourself?
He didn't attack the government or the cartels. He specifically said "Mexican" not "the Mexican government" or "the cartels". Stop trying to change what he said to make it not racist.
@ThrowAwayx404 He said "Mexico doesn't send it's best" verbatim, not Mexicans.
They're morons then. These groups are just as reliant on collectivism as the far left is. The people who want Trump just want the government out of their lives but I guess that's fascist for some reason.
Right, because that’s the reason why they’re called fascist.
@ThrowAwayx404 I never said that is the reason they are considered fascists by the mainstream media. I find it contradictory that "fascists" want less government.
But Republicans don’t actually want less government. In fact, they’re more than happy to support legislation that infringes on people’s private lives. It’s like you don’t remember it was Republicans who were dead set in preventing gay people from getting married. Ethel only want small government in terms of deregulating industry. Everything else they’re more than happy to have government stick its nose where it has no business.
@ThrowAwayx404 I'm sure the authoritarian right is happy with what's going on right now but since people like DeSantis, who tell the government to fuck off, are growing in popularity within the right libertarians, it makes no sense to call them all fascists. Just like it makes no sense to call all democrats commies as I'm sure the left libertarians hate government involvement as well by definition.
DeSantis is a dumb fuck, Trump cocksucker. I can’t believe you’re actually using him as an example of good governing. Let’s be clear about something…he’s only popular with a very narrow set of people, most of which is uneducated, anti-mask, anti-vax Trump cocksucking, inbred, conspiracy theorists. So yeah, sure he’s popular, but it’s with the most uneducated people in the country. That’s not exactly something to be proud of.
@ThrowAwayx404 The idea that DeSantis is popular with anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers would make a lot more sense if he actually banned the vaccine and the wearing of masks, but he didn't.
You stereotyping is shameful. The KKK was founded by Democrats.
Does bother you that that you mind has been corrupted by digital devices? The context of the world has many later and shades. The digital devices you use give you two choices. All Republicans or No Republican. How about some republicans. You state “All Slaveholders. As if it is all or none. That is digital dementia. The human brain is billions of cells interconnected. Your brain is not a digital device.
I'm Right-Wing Independent and I care more about what ANY of these groups DO and how they BEHAVE, rather than what they CALL themselves.
Also, the Nazi's were Left-Wing homosexuals
Always happy to bring laughter and joy into people's lives
Far right find common ground with right wing? Next you'll tell me communists find common ground with socialists
It’s telling that there ain’t a single option for independent.
And that right there is precisely the problem.
With politics**
You know that Nazis and democrats are in precise opposite ends of politics right?
I would like a 3rd party as well. I think your analysis is correct, that most people are drawn to the Dems/Reps duality, but I submit to you that it’s only because we haven’t even had the opportunity to listen to a different perspective, because both sides seem to think moderates/centrists are the enemy of both sides as they are not as extreme as the ends of the spectrum.
I mean just look at what’s happening now with the Democratic infighting. I’m not a fan of AOC but she said something interesting the other day, something along the lines of how it’s surprising that Biden and herself (a self proclaimed “progressive”) are in the same party even though they would be in different parties in another country. She’s right, and it’s because “democrats” and “progressives” as distinct enough to have something to fight about, even though in the US they are the same party. A 3rd party would capture some of the [moderate] democrats that think “progressives” are too far left. Although we don’t see the same infighting on the right, I can see the same happening on the right as well if they were almost exclusively motivated to simply suppose “progressives”. In other words, if moderate Republicans knew that moderate Democrats existed (and vice-versa), there might actually be a chance for some consensus on some issues. We simply don’t know what that would actually look like, but considering my own stances on a variety of issues, and that of other folks who are “centrists”, I’m sure a 3rd party could actually work to being at least some people in from both sides who are equally out off by the extremists on both ends.
Actually they aren't many were democrats
but all VIOLENT anarchists and communists are democrats
still going on about Trump? hehe. Boy... you should just get the courage to ask him out since you're thinking about him all day every day.
I would hope it would bother reasonable Republicans.
Does it bother you that all Democrats are Communists?
Better to be a communist because you’re uneducated/ignorant than a Nazi because you’re a bigot.
@ThrowAwayx404 both are extremes. But how many commies are in US today?
Does it bother you that all antifa and blm terrorist are democrats?
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