actually science isn't quite as uncontroversial about the human role in climate change contrary to the media propagated opinion. what you see in the media often doesn't have much to do with what actual scientists find.
@genericname85 no the science is 100% certain that humans are causing the rapid climate change, just like we are 100% certain the earth is round. You're not a flat earther too are you? Yeesh...
no that's actually false. the thing you're quoting was a missrepresentation made by the media. there was a survey made among climate scientists and they were asked "if they think climate change is happening" and that of course is a thing, so of course pretty much 100% of climate scientists agreed to that.
however the media missrepresented that to be the consensus abotu anthropogenic climate change which it absolutely is not.
in this survey only 74% of climate scientists beleived that humans had "some" influence on the climate and only 41% thought the effects of global warming would be near catastrophic over the next 50–100 years
Industrial revolution, higher spikes in changes of temperature.
sea level rising. More floods.
hotter weather where its hot and warmer weather where its cold. Because carbon dioxide holds on to more energy. And there's more carbon dioxide from all the cars, factories, planes, boats, cows.
@MJtheCoach My country alone has experienced 1.1°c rise in average land temperature since the 1900s. Doesn't seem like a lot but it makes a big difference. Rainfall has increased in wetter areas and decreased even more in drier areas. There's an increase in major weather events, heavy down pours, floods, droughts... Or glaciers have significantly diminished over the years. The oceans are getting warmer and more acidic.
Before it was called ozone layer is running thin then they called it global warming the scientist dismiss both of them they change the term from global warming to climate change because climate change is real. Because the weather in Texas is defending the weather and Alaska and vice a versa.
People from California having laid out in the California sun all their lives wearing SPF 15 and never getting burnt then they come here and don't listen to us about needing at least SPF 30 and getting red as a firetruck after just a few hours in the sun.
40,000 years ago at the weather change exactly like now there’s a lot of science that’s amazing but a lot of lie in science books but based on the way you talk it looks like you’re very one sided you would like the typical liberal Californians which usually I don’t talk to I just say yes you’re right wow amazing really out and I walk away.
I am pretty sure humans have everything to do with whatever's causing these changes. We really love to make sensative issues controversial, don't we? Rather than taking the L and working on to solve this bullshit for once and for all.
you know this discussion in the public realm has become ideologized and has become way less factual. i don't personally know whether or not humans did or can even alter the climate. but i think BEFORE we all set the ideological goal to "solve it", we should make sure that we can even do that. because it will cost us. and it will cost us a LOT. i'm not sure how much you're willing to sacrifice for a failed attemt of solving a problem that was never within our power to solve.
the human hubris has gone quite far. we can't even stop a meteorite from hitting earth, a volcano from erupting or a flood or massive fire from devastating entire countries... but we can change the climate? ... I don't know man.
i mean sure. humans have "something" to do with it. but climate change obviously is a multivariate issue. and what if humanity was just the straw that broke the camels back? i just don't know if we should put all our power into something before we can know that we can even achieve that goal. if you believe those climate fear mongerers, it was already too late for us to do something about the ensuing climate change 10 years ago... so what are we gonna do now? make thousands of years of human activity gone in just a few decades?
I don't think we should lose hope, just not yet we still can make it better, world's not "Apocalypse" fucked yet, lockdowns did show us how a few weeks of halt did make it better at many places so there's still a lot we could do to undo this, it's just about initiative and willingness at this point.
of course it's not gonna be an "apocalypse". i just think damage mitigation may be better for us than trying to turn the freaking ship around. specially considering that the single biggest contributer to this issue (china) isn't even aboard and is gonna rise next few years since it still has 10 times lower per capita emissions than america. so as china gains in wealth, the individual consuption will shoot up... i don't think many americans or even europeans understand how much of their quality of life they have to sacrifice to get down to that level... so that's why i think a damage mitigating approach would be more realistic. cause that can be acchieved by every country individually and doesn't need global politics that are inherently unfair for all developing countries.
i mean germany is trying to be very foreward. we just introduced a co2 tax and our already shockingly high gas prices shot up by yet another 20%. it already is at he point, where the existence of small businesses and even private individuals in the lower income strata is severely negatively effected.
those shitty politics always hurt the small people, not the wealthy or the super rich.
@TheLittleInnocent yeah and we've been doing so for the last few millenia with massive deforestation through the middle ages and then industrialization... I think reverting all this in a few decades is a goal way out of reach for us.
The climate has been changing ever since the world was formed, so of course I believe in "climate change." But climate change caused by human activities is not a real thing.
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Yes wish it wasn’t happening though I hate that we are ruining our planet
That’s what the Satan worshipers want you to think. They’ve already started eliminating us. Which is in progress. But don’t research. Woke people are a threat to them.
History has shown it is highly exaggerated. The one thing the left feels almost obligated to do is use scare tactics to cause more divide while gaining more power.
I care about the environment but I do not believe in global warming. Remember 10 years ago Europe was frozen over and people died of hypothermia in Britain.
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It doesn't matter who you support it is happening! What is causing it is debatable!
It’s physics, human causes rapid climate change is true whether you believe it or not. The earth is round whether you believe it or not.
actually science isn't quite as uncontroversial about the human role in climate change contrary to the media propagated opinion. what you see in the media often doesn't have much to do with what actual scientists find.
@genericname85 no the science is 100% certain that humans are causing the rapid climate change, just like we are 100% certain the earth is round. You're not a flat earther too are you? Yeesh...
no that's actually false. the thing you're quoting was a missrepresentation made by the media. there was a survey made among climate scientists and they were asked "if they think climate change is happening" and that of course is a thing, so of course pretty much 100% of climate scientists agreed to that.
however the media missrepresented that to be the consensus abotu anthropogenic climate change which it absolutely is not.
in this survey only 74% of climate scientists beleived that humans had "some" influence on the climate and only 41% thought the effects of global warming would be near catastrophic over the next 50–100 years
all that says exactly nothing about the exact amount of influence on climate human activity has in a multivariate analysis.
web.archive.org/.../...arming_survey_apr23_08.html if you care for actual sources.
Yes, there are evidences of it that can be seen by the naked eye.
I believe that there's climate change, and I don't support Trump.
It is pretty context argument that I think, but I have no proof of the sources…
I prefer wait for honest person with evidence shows us. Sorry I can’t do that answer for your question.
the evidence goes like this.
Industrial revolution, higher spikes in changes of temperature.
sea level rising. More floods.
hotter weather where its hot and warmer weather where its cold. Because carbon dioxide holds on to more energy. And there's more carbon dioxide from all the cars, factories, planes, boats, cows.
its really simple stuff
Of course. There's physical evidence you can see with your own eyes.
Yeah like example yesterday it was raining today Sunny Taaa daaa see its real. Hahaha
@MJtheCoach
My country alone has experienced 1.1°c rise in average land temperature since the 1900s. Doesn't seem like a lot but it makes a big difference. Rainfall has increased in wetter areas and decreased even more in drier areas. There's an increase in major weather events, heavy down pours, floods, droughts... Or glaciers have significantly diminished over the years. The oceans are getting warmer and more acidic.
Before it was called ozone layer is running thin then they called it global warming the scientist dismiss both of them they change the term from global warming to climate change because climate change is real. Because the weather in Texas is defending the weather and Alaska and vice a versa.
@MJtheCoach the ozone layer is thin... I literally live near it. We experience the effects of that.
People from California having laid out in the California sun all their lives wearing SPF 15 and never getting burnt then they come here and don't listen to us about needing at least SPF 30 and getting red as a firetruck after just a few hours in the sun.
40,000 years ago at the weather change exactly like now there’s a lot of science that’s amazing but a lot of lie in science books but based on the way you talk it looks like you’re very one sided you would like the typical liberal Californians which usually I don’t talk to I just say yes you’re right wow amazing really out and I walk away.
Of course i do, all the burning forests and stuff was real.
climate change is for sure real. the better question is: did humans cause it? cause that's way more controversial.
I am pretty sure humans have everything to do with whatever's causing these changes. We really love to make sensative issues controversial, don't we? Rather than taking the L and working on to solve this bullshit for once and for all.
you know this discussion in the public realm has become ideologized and has become way less factual. i don't personally know whether or not humans did or can even alter the climate. but i think BEFORE we all set the ideological goal to "solve it", we should make sure that we can even do that. because it will cost us. and it will cost us a LOT. i'm not sure how much you're willing to sacrifice for a failed attemt of solving a problem that was never within our power to solve.
the human hubris has gone quite far. we can't even stop a meteorite from hitting earth, a volcano from erupting or a flood or massive fire from devastating entire countries... but we can change the climate? ... I don't know man.
i mean sure. humans have "something" to do with it. but climate change obviously is a multivariate issue. and what if humanity was just the straw that broke the camels back? i just don't know if we should put all our power into something before we can know that we can even achieve that goal. if you believe those climate fear mongerers, it was already too late for us to do something about the ensuing climate change 10 years ago... so what are we gonna do now? make thousands of years of human activity gone in just a few decades?
I don't think we should lose hope, just not yet we still can make it better, world's not "Apocalypse" fucked yet, lockdowns did show us how a few weeks of halt did make it better at many places so there's still a lot we could do to undo this, it's just about initiative and willingness at this point.
of course it's not gonna be an "apocalypse". i just think damage mitigation may be better for us than trying to turn the freaking ship around. specially considering that the single biggest contributer to this issue (china) isn't even aboard and is gonna rise next few years since it still has 10 times lower per capita emissions than america. so as china gains in wealth, the individual consuption will shoot up... i don't think many americans or even europeans understand how much of their quality of life they have to sacrifice to get down to that level... so that's why i think a damage mitigating approach would be more realistic. cause that can be acchieved by every country individually and doesn't need global politics that are inherently unfair for all developing countries.
i mean germany is trying to be very foreward. we just introduced a co2 tax and our already shockingly high gas prices shot up by yet another 20%. it already is at he point, where the existence of small businesses and even private individuals in the lower income strata is severely negatively effected.
those shitty politics always hurt the small people, not the wealthy or the super rich.
@genericname85 I don't think we necessarily caused it. Climate change is inevitable. We're just speeding up the process.
@TheLittleInnocent yeah and we've been doing so for the last few millenia with massive deforestation through the middle ages and then industrialization... I think reverting all this in a few decades is a goal way out of reach for us.
Of course a blue anon supports Trump, and denies climate change, cuz God told him. Climate Change is irrefutable scientific FACT; NOT ALT-FACTS.
The climate has been changing ever since the world was formed, so of course I believe in "climate change." But climate change caused by human activities is not a real thing.
Yes wish it wasn’t happening though I hate that we are ruining our planet
That’s what the Satan worshipers want you to think. They’ve already started eliminating us. Which is in progress. But don’t research. Woke people are a threat to them.
Thanks for admitting that Trump supporters don’t believe in facts.
Of course not! Is the 2nd weapon after C0ViD 19 to depopulated people.
Welcome to the world of anti thinkers.
I believe it is natural and nothing can be done to slow, stop or reverse it
If it was real Trump would've stopped it that's how I know it ain't real.
History has shown it is highly exaggerated. The one thing the left feels almost obligated to do is use scare tactics to cause more divide while gaining more power.
I care about the environment but I do not believe in global warming. Remember 10 years ago Europe was frozen over and people died of hypothermia in Britain.
what happened to "the next ice age" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8P-In04rWE
Not a matter of belief. Its effects are obvious to everyone.
Hmm, so you think the glaciers are just melting from all the hot air from politicians?
"I support Trump" is how all dumb questions start lately
How is this related to the question?
Climate change is real as for you supporting Trump we can't all be perfect
The climate has changed over the years. Is it now caused by man, is the issue, in my opinion.
Again, if I meet aliens I'd tell them to exerminate us, humans are just terrible.