If government institutions are legally bound by the Constitution, then what legal right do public schools have to punish students for hateful comment?

[Anonymous]

Shouldn't I be able to criticize/curse out the teacher, or make "hateful" comments without consequences? I understand there are some federal laws about hate speech. But if I'm not directing it to a specific individual, just speaking about certain groups of people.

I can give you an example of an incident at MY high school. The LGBT lovers were allowed to have a day of silent protests for LGBT rights, but when a group of rednecks started a KKK faction, they were suspended for 3 days.

[ChiPaPa]

Nope. US Supreme court ruled though public school students do possess First Amendment freedoms, the courts allow school officials to regulate certain types of student expression.

[Asker]

But that completely defeats the purpose of the First Amendment if they can just pick and choose what can and can't be said.

So there seems to be no consistency in applying the laws then.

[wankiam]

one is about the love of our fellow human beings whilst the other is about promoting hatred.

[Asker]

So you're basically saying that only ONE agenda matters

[wankiam]

im not a virtue signalling neo lib if thats what you think... i just want peace

[SmokinAces2000]

Yo Are comparing lgbtq rights with racism, what’s wrong with you?

[Asker]

So you only think CERTAIN speech should be accpetable.

[SmokinAces2000]

Yep I don’t really care to hear “kill all niggers” while in a learning environment trying to get an education

[Asker]

Well that's inciting violence which isn't protected by the First Amendment, and I don't condone such speech. I'm talking more along the lines of, "Blacks commit more crime than Whites" or "Blacks shouldn't be dating White girls"

[SmokinAces2000]

I don’t care but do you really think thats all the KKK says?

[Asker]

Of course not, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. The KKK isn't even really a thing anymore, it was just an example.

[SmokinAces2000]

Well you do know freedom of speech doesn’t equal freedom to consequences, so schools are definitely obligated to issue discipline to students who are using the First Amendment to excuse hate speech

[Asker]

Okay, but that's HATE speech.

[SmokinAces2000]

Exactly

[Asker]

I'm not talking about hate speech. I already gave some examples.

But maybe also, not pledging allegiance to the flag.

[SmokinAces2000]

You said the KKK tried to start a group or something at your school, did you seriously expect the school to allow that 😂

[Asker]

Some rednecks started a KKK faction. And no I didn't, because the schools don't abide by the First Amendment like they're supposed to.

Though apparently the Supreme Court doesn't think so

But if they allow PRO gay protests, they should allow ANTI gay protests too, or not allow either. You can't just pick and choose the stuff YOU agree with.

[SmokinAces2000]

Yeah because a “all gays are going to hell and are evil” protest at a school will go over great

[Asker]

Okay, so be fair then and don't allow EITHER

[SmokinAces2000]

You are kinda sounding like that Texas school district who wanted “opposing” views of the Holocaust

[Asker]

I agree with them. People always cry about racism, but they never want to address the things that caused that racism to begin with.
No one develops that kind of hatred for no reason.

[SmokinAces2000]

So you think the Holocaust should be painted in a good light?

[Asker]

No. It should be painted honestly from both sides and let people form their own opinion.

[SmokinAces2000]

What other opinion can be formed, either you are a racist that thinks the Holocaust was good or you are a normal person that knows that killing a mass of people for something that they can’t control isn’t okay

[Asker]

If I'm racist the 100+ nationalities who kicked them out for destroying people financially were also racist.

I'll side with Israel and Palestine any day, but I also recognize why so many people hate them

[SmokinAces2000]

Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[Asker]

You can shake it, but it's the truth

[SmokinAces2000]

No you are a racist that want kids growing up to be racists as well

[Asker]

I want them to see the truth.

[SmokinAces2000]

What truth?

[joeldalton]

Because the constitution doesn’t matter. Only feels.

[OddBeMe]

Just as hate crimes are prosecuted.

[Asker]

HATE crimes I agree

[OddBeMe]

Are talking about first amendment right to say the n word?

[Asker]

Just saying the N word isn't hate speech. I don't support saying, "Kill the N worders." Just just using it to reference black people should be allowed.

[OddBeMe]

Allowed by whom?

[Asker]

School officials