First of all, yes I'm a 20 year old saying this. I notice a lot of my peers taking on dumb challenges on tiktok, which I consider a platform for mostly teenage girls. The talk about "staying in touch with your feminine side" as feminists like to call it, or being more emotional is evident in today's men.
Don't get me wrong, mental health is important, but you have to talk to a therapist, not cry in front of your girl. Being stoic is part of what makes a masculine man. Then the simping has increased over the generations to a point that is just downright pathetic. We went from guys just admiring the beauty of famous actresses to dudes simping for insta thots, pornstars and sending thirsty Dm's to every girl that posts a selfie. I mean really? Is that how it's supposed to be now? And don't you dare criticize those guys, you will be labeled as a misogynist with toxic masculinity.See, my theory is that social media has increased the number of options women have from their close circle, to now almost anyone around the globe. With that, their standards have gone up because now they think that they can do better. Since people like what they can't have, women will thirst after a top 10% guy, and dudes would simp after an IG thot that's out of his league. In some way, you can say that social media has created simps.
Obviously I'm well-aware of feminism and the effects it has had on the status-quo, but I believe that it was the driver of the change, while social media was the tool at which it took place (the car and the driver).
A wise man once said "hard times make hard men, hard men make easy times, easy times make weak men, weak men make hard times". What are your thoughts on the topic, and do you have any solutions?
Excellent observation! I agree and have been saying the same things for quite some time now. Many of today's young men truly have lost their masculinity and it is utterly sad. They are the weak simps who do all the shit like you said on Instagram, bowing down to these girls who have no interest in reciprocating. My God, dude, I actually have been planning on writing a Take about all this!
Guys today are so weak and un-masculine that my female friend was telling me some time back that all the guys at her job literally believe the girl should be the one doing all the work in bed, I guess cowgirl, head, and whatever else. When she told me this I honestly could not believe it, it was like the weirdest, grossest thing to me, and showed me how much a lot of guys are lacking dominance and can't even be dominant in bed. Hell, I even notice the way a lot of young dudes can't even talk to girls and don't have the skills to flirt or be confident in approaching them. This is truly sad for me as a man watching these guys on the sidelines, but then you have the other half of guys who do see a guy talking it up with a girl and those guys want to try to jump in and make him look stupid to steal the attention away. That's not very confident or masculine either, it just shows you don't know how to be a real man for her on your own.
I've written about the evil of feminism on GaG before, I studied it years ago, and although the truth is I don't really like blaming everything on feminism like the MGTOWers and Red Pillers, I have to fully agree with you that feminism really is to blame for the softness of males today - and that's exactly how feminists want men to be anyway. They've scared guys into being pussies with no confidence with all their foolish rape fearmongering and training women to complain about everything a man is doing as some sexual threat to her, meanwhile training women to view themselves as higher and better than men, and being more interested in brushing guys off for their ego's sake because they want attention, more than acutally wanting the guy. And so it's why you have all these weak guys out there who feel confused about dating, talking to women, or even how to be confident and dominant.
Sorry for my long answer but yes, I completely agree with you. Thank you for posting this question.
You know, you touched on a great point. The guy who tries to make the other dude look stupid in front of his girl. You know what's sad? A lot of dudes out there unfortunately have the misconception that that's how a masculine guy acts. He will be an asshole and steal your girl. FAR FROM IT. A guy who's secure in himself doesn't give a damn about someone else's date, because it's easy for him to get his own. Doesn't have to disrespect people to feel good about himself, and actually helps others that want to help themselves. This is what they will not tell you. Great answer man, appreciated đ
A myriad of reasons. Fatherless homes so men are being raised by mom, men are being taught that masculinity is toxic so they alter their behaviour and act like agreeable simps, declining rates of testosterone, men taking on easier and less physically demanding jobs, consumption of fatty foods which raise estrogen and cortizol, masturbation being normalized and men being unmotivated, desensitized, and having lower testosterone as a result, OnlyFans and Porn, again which lowers testosterone levels and isolates men. Which means it's harder for them to get a girl. Especially with online dating because women have too many options, which allows them to have ridiculously high standards of men.
Also, don't forget hook up culture. Sexual liberation, and social degradation. People look down on arranged marriages, but I believe that's how it should be. Marry before you lay it down.
Theyâre doing their thing. Let them be. Nothing wrong with how they want to exist in this world. We already have enough ridiculous expectations. Worry about yourself.
"You Marxists" really? First of all homie, I ain't no Marxist. Second of all, I was strictly asking about the topic of feminism and it's effect on today's men. I can care less about the other stuff.
I'm kinda a marxist. You're totally right, marxism is about anti-tradition, green-haired misandrists and white guilt indeed. But you forgot to mention that marxism is fundamentally about putting more lesbian video game characters!
"I notice a lot of my peers taking on dumb challenges on tiktok, which I consider a platform for mostly teenage girls."
It's not, but ok.
"The talk about "staying in touch with your feminine side" as feminists like to call it, or being more emotional is evident in today's men."
Testosterone does not make someone less emotional, also men actually get spikes in estrogen when horny, so at our manliest, we have the most estrogen we are going to have, read a damn biology book.
"Don't get me wrong, mental health is important, but you have to talk to a therapist, not cry in front of your girl."
Fuck no, everyone cries, stop being a whiny piss-ant and get over it, and seeing a therapist is for losers who have no life, no friends, no family, and no SO, and think that harping on problems to a person who will fix none of them, is somehow helpful instead of just pointless and stupid.
"Being stoic is part of what makes a masculine man."
No it isn't lol, thats a loser mentality for people who aren't allowed to be upset. Real men don't let anyone govern how they feel out of fear of social rejection.
Stop being a pansey, and just ignore what others think of you, if you're upset, be a real man, and show it, no fucks given about trying to impress the people you are appparantly afraid of because they will "make fun of you", for crying about something, how childish...
"Then the simping has.."
Ok just stop. This whole bulllshit that men have to be emotional robots and assholes, is toxic and retarded.
Stoic and hardened men are out there. Just not on GAG. Only guys you'll find here are insecure hentai anime obsessed virgins who wonder why gorgeous women dont come knocking on their door asking to hangout and play video games. Who wonder why women dont want "nice" guys such as themselves... And who all seem to generalize women as sleazy sleep around sluts if they had any prior relationship. So if GAG or online dating is your metric point, you may want to broaden that horizon.
I beg to differ. I don't think it's just GAG unfortunately. I have nothing against gamers or geeky dudes, but this seems to be the new normal in this day and age. Nobody wants to wrestle or box like they used to. No, I understand competition doesn't always have to be about fighting, but at least do something goddammit. Lift some weight, do something! I actually find it very therapeutic in a way, I also enjoy the sweet science (another name for boxing) but my friends think I'm a violence obsessed freak haha. I just wish more people were active than they are, and that's just one part of the equation. See, women don't owe you anything. You have to earn it. Being a "nice guy" doesn't mean shit. Guys that think that way are not going to get any results, because feminism told them they should be "nice" and not be assertive and have a backbone. Anyway man, thanks for your take.
Because masculinity is rarely appreciated anymore and those fellas are just those defeated men. Telling men to man up is not the main cause of men's mental health as how lots of people believe to be. What they see is those people who tell men to man up without any gratitude and praise. It's the lack of appreciation causing it. Imagine you've done something good for other by endangering yourself but you get people saying "you don't have to do it. Masculinity is toxic and you're just hurting yourself" instead of appreciations like saying "thank God you exist" and someone make him as someone who you can rely on. (not to be confuse with dependence)
I forgot to mention the part where they face societal pressure without any appreciation at all. Many just gives up due to the fact that the world don't need the as much anymore.
Remember when feminists say men don't really have to man up, it's because they want to be men themselves because its empowering. You notice that they tell men not to man up but at the same time, they whine about the patriarchy. That's telling something which more men should be aware of.
"Hard graft" is that like a British term? Haha. But on a serious note, while I think it's great your friends are currently serving in the military, it takes a special kind of person to do so, and exceptions don't make rules. I would bet good money that a guy who is active, knows how to fit and is healthy is more likely to join the military than a guy who sits on a couch all day and plays video games. If the other guy decides to do it, then guess what he just did? "Man up" is the term used. He could probably still enjoy some of those hobbies, but he is no longer lazy and inactive. The modern man is unmotivated, inactive, thirsty for female attention and it's just sad. There's nothing wrong with being rigid and tough, but it's looked down upon nowadays and not celebrated as it used to be.
Well with regards to that quote, note that a lot of the policies that have us in hard times lately have been due to earlier generations from relatively easy times, not Gen-Z.
I do think there's a bit of conflation between pop culture and being effeminate. A lot of the crying in front of tiktok is more pop culture.
And then personally I think women's standards have gone somewhat down in terms of the metrics we used to use like status and income. More accurately, they have laxed. As women have become less dependent on men, they're freer to like men for less raw-functional reasons and more personal/emotional ones.
Next, there's a generational phenomenon in which men are challenging the old gender norms. In some cases downright boycotting them as with the "Herbivores" in Japan.
Finally, you're also talking about teenagers. Like, this is literally what teenagers do. When you get older, the younger men seem less masculine because, well, they're younger.
I think one of reasons is that masculinity is changing. There are still guys that are strong and fighters but aren´t. I see the problem less in females but the rise of the internet it´s quality of delivering short term pleasure: Porn, video games and an excessive amount of sugar have taken ambition and the will power to be a strong guy. Guys rather go for the short term pleasure that allows them to say in their comfort zones than fighting for ideals and goals. Because masculinity has lost its clear definition and we live in a world where being a man is reduced to some feelings we don´t see many of them.
It's funny to see the responses. Yes, more younger men are becoming very effeminate to their own detriment.
Most women treat them like a gay friend. Women by in large are not sexually attracted to them at all, and just like the friendships that help make their life easier, by having these guys there to be that special non-romantic friend.
They often walk around confused why life doesn't work out well for them. They seem to take in woke media, and they feel incredibly immature. They don't walk and carry themselves like men, and act like women.
I have heard it's a result of the overwhelming number of single mom's who just cannot pull off the dad role, although they try to man-up their little boys by what they see as important, which on paper is what women want, but in reality don't want in a romantic partner. They come off as clingy wimps who want to confirmation and the pat on the head like their mother gave them to show love and affection.
hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times... That was the exact quote I thought of when I read the headline. We a living in an era of extremely weak men. Especially in Western Civilization. This whole societal celebration of effeminate men is disgusting and perverse. The idea that men can get pregnant is disgusting and perverse and a slap in the face to true feminism. Countries like China and Russia destroy this ideology. If we don't wake up soon, they will soon be the countries to take over the world. Buck up men
-General lack of good male role models/father figures.
-Culture tends to create incentives for it (isn't it funny how we give so much social and cultural power to rich degenerates in Hollywood and social media?)
-Political and ideological groups with loud voices are pushing for it
-Social media fucks up the self confidence and self worth of young people. Its harder to form and sustain an identity/inmune system agaisnt idiotic trends like he zillion gender pronouns or retarded identity politics coming from both left and right of the political spectrum (Funny thing is... both sides of the stablishment benefit from having insecure, narcisistic and socially inept internet dwellers)
I'm with you here. I can't tell which ones are gay. 50% or more of them look, dress and act gay to me.
I believe the driving root cause of this is that this is the first generation where a large number of their PARENTS were raised by single moms.
Their parents don't even know what masculine capability is, so they have no chance of teaching their children (Gen Z folks) things that they themselves were never taught.
When I was small old people used to say how much harder and worse it was when they were young, but this is a space where things are actually much worse now
Concepts like masculinity she femininity are pointless. Most of gen z realizes this and they're just doing the things they enjoy and expressing themselves how they want.
They are what have created our society. Masculinity and femininity are complimentary, and have beentgere since the dawn of time. A lot of folks don't understand that it was the bravery and courage of the male hunters that ensured the family had food on the table, and the women who cooked the food for the family. The men who took the hard and demanding physical jobs, and the women who took the role of education for the next generation. Without all of this, you wouldn't be here typing from your device, because that device probably wouldn't exist. It was created by a man, a masculine man.
You're making a moot point. You're good at hunting? Hunt whether you're a man or a woman. You're good at teaching? Teach. Strictly aligning yourself with masculinity or femininity is pointless. It's not something worth caring about.
You're missing the point. Society has become so comfortable that unfortunately people do not understand the basics anymore. Let me ask you a question. At times of war, who get drafted? It's men. Who are the rescuers when natural disasters occur? Mostly men. Shit happens all the time, so today you might be living in peace and tomorrow you might find that everything is upside down. The pandemic is an example of that. If we as men didn't have the ability to take action and improvise, humanity would not have survived this long.
Men tend to do masculine things, that's nature and definitive of the word. You're missing the point. I'm not denying contributions to society. I'm saying it doesn't matter if you're feminine or masculine and there shouldn't be a pressure to be one or the other as determined by your gender. Just be yourself and express yourself the way you want.
If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. I'm sorry, but if everyone was "themselves" whatever it means, then we will not be here. We haven't reached a plateu in human history where everything is perfect and no further progress is needed. Mother nature has its way of reminding us why we have to be on guard at all times, and if you lower your guard at any point, bad things happen. I know for a fact when a hurricane happens, it won't be dudes waving rainbow flags that will come and rescue everyone, it will be the trained rescuers who have been doing their job for a while to gain experience while others their age were wearing make up and dressing as a drag queen.
I'm delusional? To me it sounds like you're the one who thinks anything goes, and that men can act like women and women can act like men without societal collapse. That's delusion to the core.
If they're pointless, then the only thing that defines gender has to be genitalia; right? Because why would someone be able to be as masculine as she wants feel the need to go to the other gender; considering genitalia is the only defining factor.
The modern definition of gender is self identified. I don't want to get into it. Masculine women exist, they don't have to identify as men. Some identify as men.
@Ninaface Two ways to define men and women. 1) in their anatomy and 2) in their psychology. If you have studied physiology, you know that men and women have different levels of Testesterone and Estrogen. Men have more of the former, and women of the latter. Those hormones affect the physical development, but also the mental. I will give you an example: women produce more oxytocin than men, aka the "love hormone". Does that mean men are hearless? No, we're not. That's just one way to explain. You cannot overlook past all of this complexity, because different hormones can affect your moodiness and way of thinking, and how you respond to certain acts. Men and women ARE different.
I define a woman to be anyone who identifies as a woman and has documentation that says they're a woman (like an ID, birth certificate, etc). I don't need to see this documentation to regard them as a woman, but in this modern age that's when I consider someone to be a man or a woman.
If you define a word with the word itself, it's not really a definition; is it? You cannot say, "a bowl is something that everyone says is a bowl." That sounds ridiculous and uneducated, no?
Why do you like to complicate your life? Women are the gentler and more nurturing sex, and men are the assertive and dominant sex. It's very simple. What people identify as doesn't change science, and I already explained hormonal differences and their effects on behavior as well as anatomical structure, so I don't want to go over that again. If a man could just identify as a woman, why can't they not use the women's bathroom? Exactly.
And a bowl is a bowl. Its not that I don't accept it, it's that it doesn't fit the definition of what a definition is. Which is why I called it uneducated. You cannot define something by itself. That is a statement, "a bowl is a bowl" what is an actual definition you have. A trans gender person can be someone who identifies as a woman; but just because someone personally identifies with it; that doesn't mean they actually fit the definition of it.
I just told you a dude who identies as a woman is NOT a woman, because he cannot go the female bathroom. He doesn't ovulate, doesn't have a period, doesn't give birth. By your definition, anyone can be anything, right? What's to stop predators from identifying as the opposite sex? Or better yet, pedos from identifying a different age. That argument is nonsensical and lacks structure, throws away all the years of research done by scientists and is destructive. You are who you are, NOT who you identify as.
If there is no definition for a woman, why would a man go through all the attempts he makes to become one? Gender is a social contract mentality means that everything a gender is, is their physical being.
When are you going to understand that modern definitions are re-written specifically for political gain to manipulate people with a weak mind. The reason that I use the term weak mind because anyone who falls for it has a weak mind. Study the term divide and conquer. They create turmoil between citizens and coax them into attacking each other making those citizens too busy to focus on the politicians and remove them. Those politicians then have the ability to stay in power simply for arguments sake - meaning citizens want to prove they are right so bad that they vote for people without even checking the accuracy of their past promises or their history/history of corruption, if anything negative is even brought to their attention they immediately redirect without even researching it because they have been trained to only do as theyâre told and that liberal politicians are 100% innocent and can do no wrong even though they are the exact opposite in truth while if they hear something positive no matter how far-fetched they believe it instantly because simultaneously they believe that they are always right and better than everyone else therefore the Democrats they chose are right because they chose them and they do not want to be proven wrong. The democrats are basically coaxing citizens into hating their neighbors in an attempt to increase their length of stay in office. While they have been in power the democrats have continuously attempted to pass bills while simultaneously eliminating others with a goal to solidify their authority; even attempting to find ways like H. R.-1 bill to try and keep themselves in power by making voting obsolete because they would then control the outcome of every vote By having a direct hand to be able to manipulate the outcome.
-continued- Another example with a goal of eliminating the loss of power is trying to perpetually keep mail in voting and ballot harvesting while not requiring any form of ID or any verification (The only reason they link it to racism when people make opposing bills/claims is to push their agenda forward itâs not because they believe they are right itâs because they want people to think the others are wrong and evil) they are trying to keep themselves in power while allowing themselves to be able to cheat. Only the simple minded are not able to see these things. This is not propaganda, they tell you that this is propaganda to feed into the hate and Keep you questioning your self and the truth. The Democrat party has pushed hate between you and other citizens so that you will be fighting each other instead of focusing on the real threat which is them. Unfortunately though, you have too much hate in you to understand that if you already believe them because thatâs the only reason that one can fall for it⌠hate for oneself leads to hate for others to avoid facing that hate for oneself/oneâs own life and self blame for the way oneâs life has turned out - Itâs easier to point the finger and direct that hate elsewhere instead of facing these problems head on and fixing oneâs self. Their propaganda is full of hate and is seen as self justification for those hateful thoughts/actions towards others. Politics is the last thing Democrats should be affiliated with itâs a trap to manipulate their mental illness; what you need a psychiatrist and at the very least you need to be honest with yourselves and face your own feelings that do not involve blaming others/Self- victimization. Anyone who has feelings of hate is not right internally and needs to reconnect with themselves. Self-hate is a requirement to hate others as well as to be susceptible to democrat propaganda/ brainwashing.
Mm. I disagree. I don't think crying in front of people other than a therapist is feminine (you don't have to never cry to be stoic, just like you don't have to always cry to be "in touch with your emotions"). I don't think using social media that women also use is feminine, because women use all social media, and so do men. I don't think being a simp is feminine (being a simp is just silly, and certainly not exclusive to modern times).
Crying under extraordinary circumstances is allowed. You can cry in a funeral. You can cry at the news of a loved one dying. But don't tell me you're gonna cry because you had a shitty day, or because your boss was a rude asshole to you, that's just reaching. Sometimes developing a tough exterior is useful, unless you don't want to get taken seriously. As for social media, I never said using social media makes you feminine. I said it has the capacity to allow men to simp for women. Would any of these guys say half of the wild stuff they say on their DMs to a girl in real life? Most likely not. By extension, simping is a form of weakness in masculinity.
Simping has been around forever. If there were no dms it would be in letters, if there were no letters it would be to her face. Social media may make it more accessible but it makes everything more accessible, including good things like friends and communication.
Crying relieves stress. If you don't handle your stress one way or another it is gonna have negative effects. One way to handle it is crying, but a lot of people don't like to do that. There are other ways like venting or working or making art. And it's good to build a tolerance and have control of whether you cry or not. But allowing yourself to cry is a basic, healthy option to relieve stress, and there is nothing feminine about being healthy.
Let me put it this way: before dating apps and social media, women could only look to the men who are in their circle/village/tribe. Most women wouldn't have that many options, and the most attractive ones would have the most options and would get wifed up fast. The difference between then and now is that back then women actually settled. To understand the significance of that, we need to define simping. Siming is when you desperately holler at a woman that wants nothing to do with you. Now let's assume the woman in question has less options, then she's more likely to consider you as an option. Is it considered simping at that point, or is it shooting your shot? Well, that depends on your approach. However, if you try the same with today's women who have way more options, you are less likely to be considered as an option, so more likely to be rejected. If you stop here, that's fine, but if you continue to desperately holler at them after rejection, that just screams simp behavior.
Crying is socially acceptable for women as they are more emotional. Men have other ways to take their frustration. We like to have our own space where we can cool off. Sports and working out can be therapeutic. Crying frequently is not masculine behavior, and I would argue that it is very difficult considering we are just not as emotional as women in general.
Simping is okay sometimes, but not others. And the difference is not any difference in what the man does, it's only a different in whether or not the woman is willing to settle for a guy who does it?
And crying. Women cannot let out frustration except by crying, but men can let out frustration any way except crying? But crying is okay occasionally, if it's a "big enough" reason to cry? Frustration or emotions can't build up over time or be let out on small, frequent occasions, only come all at once on a few, big occasions?
No, that's not what I said. Let's rewind, shall we?
Simping is when you desperately go after a woman that has rejected you, or shows no interest. It's a one way street. To say that simping didn't exist back then is untrue, but that's not the argument. The argument is that it has increased ten fold, and has become somewhat socially acceptable. The point I used about options is that the more options she has, the less likely it's you. The less likely it's you, the more likely you are going to simp. That's kinda how I put it.
Once again, you're making blanket statements. Women can get angry, frustrated, disappointed and so on just like men. Doesn't always have to be in crying form. They are humans too at the end of the day. At the end of the day, there's variance in how often it occurs, and women cry more often. By normalizing crying for men, we are demoralizing stoicism, which is a big issue. Being stoic means you are less likely to show emotions, and the benefit it gives is that you can be a source of strength for others. The father has a lot in his plate everyday, and when times are tough he takes care of what needs to be done, rather than make everyone panic. Showing that you have things under control puts others at ease, and that's why it's important. Crying constantly shows you are worried about everything, and that's not what makes a great leader. Composure makes a great leader. A level head makes a great leader. The captain of the the plane doesn't immediately announce a problem to the passengers, he first tries to figure it out, and will let them know as a last resort, because it's important to avoid panic.
Frustrations can be let out, it just doesn't have to be in the form of crying everytime somebody passes you off. The can sometimes come out in the form of anger (which I also don't advise, because having anger issues can be problematic) or disappointment. You get the memo. Only cry if you have a good reason to, and do it privately.
Okay so simping is like harassment. That's fair. But when was simping not socially acceptable? And when was it less common? Just because people can see it easier with the internet doesn't mean it's more common.
I think we mostly agree on crying but tbh I still don't see it as feminine.
It would benefit both men and women to be able to express their emotions in healthy ways *at appropriate times.* Yes, a father should take action in an emergency. But so should a mother. And a wife shouldn't panic when she can't find her keys any more than a husband should panic if he's late for work. But when things aren't urgent, at the end of a day, i don't see why a man should hide from his partner that he is stressed. However he expresses it. Your partner is supposed to be closer than anyone to you, and you're supposed to help each other. Being stoic is fine, it has its purpose, and neither partner should overload the other with constant emotion dumping or venting. But you shouldn't make looking strong for your partner more important than being honest with them and healthy for yourself. Nobody should cry constantly. Nobody should force themselves not to cry unless it's a "big enough" reason. You force yourself not to cry when you need to act. Both genders should do that. There's a balance.
1) using tiktok is being a part of dumb teenager in the internet era. give your guys a break.
2) don't cry? lmao. why can't you express your feelings? feelings of hurt, in this case. not to quote sir freud but feelings buried alive will manifest later in much uglier ways. better to cry about it and move on. unless you're saying a man's life isn't tough enough for them to have the privilege of tears? lols.
1) These aren't teenagers, it's grown dudes in their 20s doing dumb stuff and wasting time they can use to be productive.
2) Yes, if you're a man then don't cry. I haven't cried in years. My uncle passed away a year ago (may God rest his soul) and I didn't shed a single tear. Did I feel sad? Yes. Did I feel hurt? Absolutely. Was I angry at myself for not spending enough time around him because I was too busy trying to pass in med school? Yes I was. However I didn't cry because I couldn't. I deal with things differently. Doesn't mean I don't process these emotions, but you won't see that from me. I have time to think for myself when I'm by myself, not around other people, especially not women. He wasn't the only one who I was close to who passed away, I have many deceased relatives and I dealt with it the same way every time. I'm not super cold or heartless, that's just how I AM. Men are less emotional in general and even the way we process emotions is different from women. There's nothing wrong in that. What's wrong is throwing young men on the train track by telling them that it's OK to cry in front of a woman, only for them to find out the hard way that they can't.
I've had a close friend tell me that one of his exes cheated on him and he was suicidal and went through therapy to get himself back in place. He started dating a new girl and felt like he can share his emotions/insecurities with her and did mention the fact that his ex cheated on him. Why did he do that? He didn't intend to dump his trauma on her and he said that she told him that he can tell her anything, so he let her know that his ex cheated on him and that's why he wanted to take things slow. Literally the FIRST argument they had after that is when she told him "that's why your ex cheated on you" and then started apologizing to him and spamming his phone after he left enraged.
Women act like they don't use that against us when we tell them the truth, but it only takes one to destroy your life. He's doing good now, but he learned his lesson the hard way. That advice you just gave can be fatal for some dudes.
You just proved my point. I KNOW the girl he was talking about, and even I didn't think she would be the type to do that. Obviously we both avoid her now and she did say her peace, but he said that he wants nothing to do with her. She's a high-achieving student and someone you would think is a goody-two-shoes kind of person, so it was a surprise when she said what she said. You saying that "he has shitty taste in women" is gaslighting those who KNOW her and didn't see that coming. How do I know you won't act like her? Like you're the most understanding person in the world? Oh please.
The truth is that all women act that way. Now I'm not saying that women are bad, I'm just saying they're not really interested in male issues. Therefore, the adaptive mechanism is to deal with it by ourselves. We are more likely to bring forward other problems to our male friends who can also relate to what we're going, because at least they do care to some extent, but women? Nah.
Ma'am you're not making any sense. It's not about who he picks that's the problem, because MOST WOMEN will have this response. The girl next door will have this reaction, just like cold hoe will have this reaction. Women were not made to handle male problems. This is why we're not interested in sharing our issues with you.
I mean hell, look at what you're doing right now. You're literally deflecting by saying that "he should've dated a better girl" rather than saying that what she did was deplorable. You would react exactly like her if you were put in that situation, so you have no moral authority to tell us how WE should act.
it's very annoying. i keep making eye contact with guys i like and smile at them (after i see them staring at me of course), and they stare like deer without blinking, then look at their phones, probably crying on reddit why no women ever show any interest in them.
Or just let people be? Let them live how they want. As they're not doing anything illegal or hurting someone, they're allowed to live how they want. Life's too short to force yourself to live according to some pre written societal standards. At the end of the day, if you're good person at heart and you act according to that, nothing else should matter.
Masculinity is subjective. What makes me masculine isn't going to be the same as what makes you masculine.
"Effeminate" men who are being true to/sure of themselves are a million times more masculine than dudebro Reagan-groupies who are only like that because "daddy said I had to be or else no dinner."
Because TikTok was created to make us think weâre woke and progressive when actually the rest of the world is laughing at us because China is gonna come over here cash in that long over due debt and take shit over because we donât have any real men to fight then and by the way did you know as of 2012 or 13 or something if you were born a dude you still have to be Registered for selective service no matter what you feel like you are😂
Tiktok ironically was created by China, a country that values masculinity, but the west is using it to promote misandrist propaganda. Nice. The 2012 stuff is nuts. Can you send a link for the fact-check?
So many gen z men were raised by single mothers, who have no clue how to raise a boy to be a man.
Also, feminists know that masculinity is their kryptonite. They will never be able to achieve the power over men that they seek as long as men are masculine, so they have been waging war against masculinity fort decades, and have achieved a lot of success.
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