Men are multiple times more likely to kill women than the other way around and this is true for violent criminal behavior in general and this is according to the FBI which is the lead law enforcement agency in the USA. But if u even state this clear fact ur sexist. Never mind all the women getting killed, raped, and assaulted by men who cares about them. What really matters is making men feel good apparently. How is it that I can’t even point out how men treat women like shit in this country or I’m the sexist one? U can’t make this shit up. Men always wanna blame women when 95% of what they complain about is their own damn fault...…..
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Before you all come for me, this is not a reflection of my own views of sexism. How ever this is a slit twist to a question that @Intothevoid666 posted. I thought it would be interesting to see the difference in reactions to the question.
I'd say false. Globally women are more dominated and put into pigeonholes more than the US or Western Europe. That much is true. 4th wave feminism preaches and encourages the teachings of toxic masculinity, women being superior to men, and basically men and male genitals being vestigial traces of civilization. If men claimed the same about tits or ovaries, they'd be labeled extremists, but for women this is considered the norm.
You follow data with an opinion like that opinion is a fact. " How is it that I can’t even point out how men treat women like shit in this country or I’m the sexist one? U can’t make this shit up. Men always wanna blame women when 95% of what they complain about is their own damn fault...….." How are women treated like shit with preferential employment just by putting down woman on a job app, same with college admissions?
I've seen women in abusive relationships. Both sides enjoy escalating, and it's a pattern they are used to. Dating those same women they don't want to resolve those problems with talking, they wanted me to hit them and called me a bitch when I wouldn't. So I kicked them out and never talked to them again. Is it my fault for not hitting them or wanting to put up with their bullshit? Should I have treated them like a princess and tried to fix them, or would that have been an expression of 'toxic masculinity'?
It's not like the cops do anything when women break the law anyway, one girl I knew enjoyed armed robbery, she never got charged, no matter how many times the cops go called, she just disappeared one day.
If you read the whole post would see that this a satirical question, demonstrating how people react to racism vs something they feel victimizes them...
I did read "your whole post" and though your intention may be satire, without your update, which wasn't there when I read it, your question doesn't read as satire, just another feminazi wanting to tiptoe through the testicles.
Lies, d looks an awful lot like h, but yeah, looks like that was there, doesn't change a reflection on those views though, just that you aren't acting as a spokesperson for them
actually I just took someone else's words and changed it from racism to sexism, do demonstrate how people would react differently to it, and I put right there at the bottom this is not a reflection of my own views of sexism, but to see how people would react differently to racism vs sexism.
I'd think the reaction to sexism would be greater. Race itself is kind of a hazy idea, at what border, or what percentage do you stop being white, black, Asian, etc? When do you become that race, and can you be all simultaneously? Gender is a more clear cut identity except for about.1% of the population.
I find it subjective, I had clients from North Africa or the Middle east who would get furious if you called them black "I'm African, A Fri Can!", going by statistical data they would be black, going by their opinion, Black is an American community they want no part of. It's an arbitrary lumping of people. Are people from Spain and Portugal Hispanic or white? What would an aborigine from Australia put on the form? They are certainly a native population, but not native American.
Honestly I preferred the races we all had in the military, "you" or your rank. Large scale wars always tend to be followed by reduction in tension and barriers between races. Every major civil rights movement came after a large scale war.
Though I agree with many of your statements towards violence in relationships, I'd define sexism differently because violence isn't the only form of sexism. Besides what you wrote is a thesis not a question: Your statement says men are rather sexist, women are not sexist, prove me wrong. Sexism isn't reduced on physical violence alone therefore your argument that men are more likely to be sexist doesn't stand on solid ground to me. Sexism could also involve that a person shows a certain behaviour just because they are a certain gender. Saying women can't drive or men just think with their dick is also sexist. Sexism is a sensitive subject because it's a behaviour that doesn't solely lead to visible harm. Because of we live in a day and age where men and women don't understand each other anymore and where many people on the one side stop caring about what they say and other people are more sensitive about what is said about them women are said to be more sexist than men. Another reason is because men and women define sexism differently.
There are both sexist men AND women in the world. Yes, statistically men perpetrate violence against women more often than the reverse and pointing out that simple fact is not sexist. However, sexism isn't just about violent crime, it's also about societal roles and expectations and there are a lot of double standards and statistical facts that men face that I would deem sexist as well. For example, men are much less likely to be awarded custody of their children in divorces than women (often get screwed over in divorces in general), they are expected to be the breadwinners of the family, not show their emotions as much, rates of male completed suicide is higher than female suicide, they are expected to pay on the first date, and are less likely to be taken seriously as victims of domestic violence (because even though there are more female dv survivors, there are plenty of men being abused in relationships too and there are MUCH fewer resources for them). I could go on with more examples of how society shits on men and I could also name many examples of how society shits on women. Unfortunately, both genders have to face their own unfair realities and expectations, and no, pointing out those statistics and societal observations is not sexist in and of itself.
There are sexist women, they are just usually more subtle about it.
Male sexist: “Get back to the kitchen and make me a sammich!”
Female sexist: Thinks most men are creeps and savages while believing in the fictional boogeyman of “toxic masculinity”. Also likes to silence men with different views by saying that they are “mansplaining”.
This is toxic masculinity you. . . a set of attitudes and ways of behaving stereotypically associated with or expected of men, regarded as having a negative impact on men and on society as a whole.
That’s the feminist propaganda definition. Not the actual definition.
Leon Degrelle once said something along the lines that “National socialism was never about being against any race but rather the improvement of a race and every race should do the same.” Completely leaving out the anti semitism, state control and lebensraum policies.
So what makes you think that definition of “toxic masculinity” is 100% accurate without leaving out the more misandrist context?
The issue with “toxic” masculinity is exactly what many women are secretly attracted to. So no wonder they fall in love with some asshole, get burned and then instead of being introspective of making a shitty decision they want to blame all men.
Toxic masculinity will never go away until women stop dating and spreading their legs for these assholes. In the western world women especially have the power to yes or no when one of these guys approach them.
@globetrotter22 No... most heterosexual women are attracted to masculinity, not toxicity. What you are doing is blaming the women for things men do. That's like blaming Jonny for Amber shitting in his bed...
The acid test for me growing up was seeing who was getting laid and who wasn’t. The nice guys who do what women “say” they want didn’t fair well most of the time. But sexist assholes and bullies seemed to have no problem getting their fair share.
Now I realize there is a time where women (hopefully) grow out of that. But one thing about young people is their passions are raw. You are seeing the female sexual impulses for what they really like and it isn’t what feminists “say” they want from a man.
@globetrotter22 bullies are also really good at manipulating people... it also may come as a surprise to you that women also enjoy sex, and its easier to have a one night stand with someone disposable and who you don't really respect. A sexist ass hole is a sexist ass hole, no one likes this but a sexist ass hole with people skills and the ability to manipulate someone into thinking he's a "nice guy" is gonna do better in social situation that the good guy who doesn't have social skills.
@anon1903@Subarugirl talk is cheap. Women are the gatekeepers to sex and relationships in most cases. They are usually in the position to say yes or no. They do the interviewing and men are job applicants.
To a certain extent I actually agree that assholes may not always come off as aggressive and abusive (initially). They do know how to push and pull. And yes they more often than not do exude some “toxic” masculinity traits.
However there are usually red flags that this guy is a risk but women get dumb out of EMOTION. So after he screws you over, do you own to your mistakes? Or do you look for shoulders to cry on while blaming all men?
@globetrotter22 I blame people for their actions. Anyone can be a risk... you never know what a person is capable of until they do it. But what I am hearing is that you are placing the blame on the person who has been wronged instead of the person doing the wrong, buy saying that she should have been more careful... Then when she is, she is gate keeping sex and stereotyping all men.
@Subarugirl with the whole “nice guy vs. asshole” debate why is it always an issue with women making these shitty decisions vs men? Are men attracted to bitches? Maybe to a very limited and fleeting extent. But overall we’re definitely not. We sure as hell don’t stay in love with them.
Anyway I don’t expect things to change. But it would be nice if women own up to this crap more often.
Your take @Subarugirl once again absolves women of all and any culpability when it comes to that “nice guy vs. asshole” paradox. I wish that take was true but I’ll say it again: talk is cheap.
All you have to do is look around to see the truth. Women are intrigued by challenge and mystery and that’s something assholes inadvertently have going for them. It’s also something nice guys inadvertently do NOT have going for them.
Now there are always exceptions to the rule on this. But for people especially young people this continues to be a major problem. If it wasn’t a problem you wouldn’t see so many frustrated guys and so many heartbroken women who go for the wrong men.
@globetrotter22 everyone is intrigued by mystery and challenges to some degree. I see men complain about being taken advantage of by women all of the time…. The same thing applies in reverse
@Subarugirl Like I said, it doesn’t matter what “literal definition” you use, it’s feminist propaganda. Ever heard of the argument from authority fallacy?
@KrakenAttackin There are distinct differences between the definitions of sex and gender. Language evolves, and the study of that evolution is called etymology. Etymology is the study of the history of the form of words and, by extension, the origin and evolution of their semantic meaning across time. It is a subfield of historical linguistics, and draws upon comparative semantics, morphology, semiotics, and phonetics.
That is completely different than disregarding or trying to change the current definition of a word just because it suits your political or social views.
“ the definitions of words can just be changed to what ever you want them to mean what is the point of languageL You let the cat out of the bag on the very essence of modern liberalism right there. Semantics and Orwellian word twisting
@globetrotter22 *can't Dude that was a typo, You can't just change the definitions of words to make them mean what ever you want when ever you want to... that is not the same thing as language evolving
@Subarugirl Hmm. Surprised to hear you say that. From what I’ve observed leftists are twisting words all the time and adding a new letter to LGBTQ? WTF literally everyday.
@Subarugirl also interesting you said “woman ARE responsible” for their actions. You did call out that girl who felt entitled to her bf’s money a while ago. Maybe there is some hope for you.
At the end of the day I just want fairness. And tbh it seems like it would be a cold day in hell when I see modern feminists admit their mistakes, quirks and times THEY can be sexist towards men. When people are more forthcoming it makes me more open minded to their debates.
@globetrotter22 of course anyone can be sexist… however for hundreds of years sexism has been directed primarily towards women, just like racism has been primarily directed towards black people. Does that mean that sexism and racism can’t be directed towards white men? No of course it doesn’t… it’s just not as prominent.
Neither one of us were around when real sexism and racism existed. And that “hundreds of years” argument is like saying you somehow genetically inherited oppression from your ancestors.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s a sugar high for “intersectional” people to get their “special” societal benefits but it’s not equality. Not progression. If anything it’s just permeating sexism (and racism). Quit using the past that neither one of us lived in to justify misbehaving in the present.
For the record I know things are more complicated than a GaG post. You will never truly understand what it’s like to be a man or me vice versa. I also believe some of the struggles you have endured are very real (becoming a mother at 19 must have been very tough).
However we can be open minded and that approach requires taking what people say seriously. I can tell you that 90%+ of the angry guys you encounter on here would NOT be “incels” in a different time ere (however there are some true misogynists on here. I don’t like them anymore than you do). They would of most likely been happily married and have clear cut role of what it is to be a man in society. But they have had the misfortune of growing up in a very confusing time.
1st of all ok i am intrested in question it has peeked my interest how does a guys rant about racism inspired you about your rant from sexism. Don't mind me i say it in politest way you formed everything as he did the sentences and all it's like his energy channalised you.
2nd part ok a guy with criminal background is criminal and he won't differentiate whether you are a girl or a man he will beat the shit out of you if something doesn't go according to his way.
Perhaps he is the one alone who beats the shit out of people treating them equally bad.
Coming to the point where men are the violent ones ask the kid whose face was knifed by a women how does he feel about it does he go with how many people are good in men and how many bad in women nope his just a poor victim.
You can't blame everyone for some criminals act .
You can surely raise your voice against it but just don't view every second man as voilent criminal and make him uncomfortable.
Everything that man has problem is 95% of his fault agreed but same goes to women and by saying that you loose the points to argue I'd men can't expect an answer for women then women can't expect answer from men.
Honestly you speak of raising your voice but if a guy does somepost like this from a man's view point you will also be debating there.
So there will always be a different point of view from both perspectives.
You are selectively sexist (maybe ) or may be moody i have seen you understanding others point of view and even just go baliatic.
But very engaging post.
But I genuinely want to ask this what's the idea behind asking here what's the thing expected from the audience here that will be satisfying you?
I wonder what's purpose what do you think will happen or whats the expectation?
the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues:
criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics. Its ironic because by switching exactly what he said about racism to sexism the reaction is drastically different.
I understand what you did , but I am so dumb that i don't understand why 👻
You earlier had made a post about why men had problems while women shared their personal opinion or their problems on gag Against and don't want women to talk.
It's so strange that you are criticizing the person for his opinion 🤷😅
Now I think that's the real satire you are doing 😆.
You think that it is strange to criticize someone for making racist remarks? Actual that post I made the other day was about why men get so upset when women talk about abuse they have experience, things that happened to them, not about opinions...
Yeah but you were upset on the opinions you had received that's why the question right.
That was a question about racism that person thinks white people are now being abused or ignored bc of their race while they are the most accommodating to other races
It was strange to hear that yet he had every right to ask it to express himself with his issues or what he presumes to be an issue.
No I was asking why men on here specifically get defensive when women specifically talk about abuse they have experienced because I want to know why they feel the need to react defensively...
Men and women are equally as likely to be sexist. Wanna know how I know? All you gotta do is acknowledge that they are both human beings.
Here I'd what I noticed about the similaritues and differences between male and female sexes:
No one likes the male sexists, not even other men. They'll most likely die alone because they generally aren't very fun to be around.
Sexist women tend to travel in groups. In fact, one of them is a multi-billion dollar industry which spreads propaganda like: -that men need to br re-educated so that they won't commit rape
-that men who are accused of violent crimes against women are undeserving of due process,
-that women should be suspicious of their male acquaintances and make the worst possible interpretation of their actions,
-that fathers don't deserve to have full custody of their children
-make the argument that some immesurable power keeps men down while in the same breath say that the same power privileges them.
The worst part is, this group markets themselves as fighting against sexism and people have believed them for at least a century. It's a group that gaslights the world about how humans behave.
Men are far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime,
Add prison and men are raped more 90% of homeless ate men 40% of domestic abuse is on men Vast majority probably 95% of work deaths are men On and on it goes
You ask who cares about the women?
Look at the support structures in place for women.
The funding, the shelters
There is a vast support network for abused women to get help and speak out about their experience.
I don't know how to word this in the best way but I'm trying Not all men commit violent crimes against women and most men commit violent crimes against just about anyone thez don't like. Sure theirs definitely sexist asshole men out there but they are minority and I'm sure most men hate them with a passion.
Also the kind of sexism men receive is different from the kind women receive so comparing the two isn't even worth the time or effort since both are an issue
As for rape? That's not my fault and I have little control over it. I could go my entire life without being able to prevent even a single rape so while I truly do feel bad for the victims unless I am there I can't really change anything.
False, woman are very sexist now a days they believe themselves to be superior than men. I think the combination of social media and feminism has brainwashed them to be this way. Although I do agree that men are generally more violent women may also more cunning and manipulative. When I was in school many in fact 99% of the teachers where women and feminist, from a young age we have been oppressed by these feminists. We’d watch the girls get treated like princesses and the boys treated like trash. It was sexism plain and simple… and I’ve never seen men be that sexist in my experience.
I wasn't trying to be funny, I was trying to prove a point. By definition satire is the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues: Humor wasn't what I was going for... other wise it would have been humorous.
This is kinda taking some very complicated ideas and trying to cherry pick meaning. Honestly wouldn't have expected this post from you.
I'd rather you just talk specifically on what is men's fault.
Just from reading this though, I'd have to disagree. Obviously men kill women more, they're in a position to do it more often. And there's a lot of reasons you don't seem to be taking into consideration.
It just seems like a silly comparison on the surface.
Some women practice hypergamy, does that make all women gold diggers? What you’re doing here is creating what Marxists call a dialectic of gender warfare, because class doesn’t have as much of an ingrained history on the US side of the pond. Why must you continue to aggress against men as a group? I think answering that question would be far more helpful to you in life than increasingly creative restatements of questions which don’t give you the responses you are looking for.
actually I think it would be a better alternative to subject men to that kind of oppression so they can understand what it is like. Get ready for that Burka shorty
Well, if we're both alone at your house, I'd rather be naked. That way you can do your objectifying and smashing the patriarchy by making us both some sammiches.
I don't objectify men, You could stand butt ass naked in front of me and I wouldn't take it as an invitation... though if I had the choice between fucking you and dry humping a cactus.. the cactus sound more appealing.
Hey it was just a joke, not a dick, don't take it so hard. But it's so sweet of you to be worried about by husband and our relationship... though we are doing great, he was singing my praises as I sucked his cock last night...
@Subarugirl I have been following your posts for a while. While I don’t “enjoy” being your opposite on the vast majority of your views (although I finally agreed with you on something yesterday) I do have to ask you this: have you EVER at any point admitted that you have been in the wrong with dealing with men in the past being a woman?
As you already know I’m no fan of modern feminism. I’ve owned up to my past mistakes.
I agree with the point that men are more likely to kill their lovers and it does happen from time to time but the situation is not always biased against women. You cannot deny that most women prefer to date bad guys for the thrill they provide. Al most everyone grows through a slut phase. It's noticeable very much in society everywhere. Good hardworking men get a hard time finding a single girl while thugs, guys who roam around on their bikes, cars, and vans the whole day are never without a woman. Women have the most power in dating to choose from. If you are with a guy like that one day the situation can get worse. All the guys that killed women were bad, to begin with. Even in friend circles, I have seen guys who have a bad reputation for beating, and exploiting girls get a new one every month. Actions have consequences.
I see my post got to u. I’ve heard women say to my face something along the lines of “I hate men” multiple times in my life. Never heard a guy ever say anything like that. I see women openly talking shit about men in their social media profiles far more than the reverse so I don't know about that.
False. The amount of women out there that talk shit in men. Use men for what they can get, etc… and women have a whole movement (feminism) dedicated to shitting on and belittling men. Not saying that’s how the movement started. But the way it is now, the goal is to make men subservient and eventually eradicate men. My answer, women are just as sexist, if not more.
The majority of men don’t assault women, the majority of men don’t rape women, the majority of men don’t kill women.
You are focusing on a minority and blaming them all.
Majority of recent terrorist attacks have been committed by people who r Muslim, but this is not th majority of Muslims it is a small minority. Yet if u said that Muslims r terrorists it would be offensive and rightly so.
How is it any different focussing on a minority of men and blaming all men?
Can I get a round of applause for this social justice warrior who completely who decided to get triggered before reading the whole post. Clam down Brad... it's satire. No one is talking about you.
"Women are some of the least sexist people on earth" <--- False, and you demonstrate that here on GAG on a daily basis. Your disdain for men is obvious even here in this "question"
"Women are deemed the most sexist" <--- Not really, even though women like you are very common.
If you consider how many unborn children women kill every year, they are responsible for a hell of a lot more murders than men. Just sayin.
I just took @Intothevoid666 post and switched it from black people to women…. And the word racist to sexist…it was to prove a point which you have done very well thank you for that. How ever you’re over here getting triggered by a satirical question posted to prove a point
I knew what you did and why you claimed to be doing it. I even saw your post in the other question before I posted here. But that wasn't the only point you were trying to make here and you and I both know it. This one was just more of the same kind of thing we have all come to expect from "women" like you. It has been interesting to watch you become increasingly bitter toward men over the year or so since you joined GAG.
So let me get this straight… your upset for being generalized… then you do the exact same thing to me.. I’m not bitter against men. I’m just done taking shit from people. So as long as you don’t give me shit about something that doesn’t even apply to you, there is no problem.
You mean a double mastectomy? Actually after consulting with a physician, they recommended that a reduction would be a better option for pain management, and that my risk for breast cancer at this point doesn't warrant such an extreme precaution.
The reasons you gave when you posted it had nothing to do with breast cancer prevention and everything to do with your self image and mental health issues.
Oh well sorry I didn’t post about my families history of cancer and my own chronic pain when I was suffering… I’m glad I was able to clear that up for you though
actually I was talking about having them removed because of pain. The cosmetic part of it was barely an after thought. …. but no go ahead and try to explain to me what my motivations for considering a double mastectomy were..
Subarugirl, if that was meant as an insult, it missed by a mile. I don't get my ego feed from the size of my "short little heat," although I never heard that expression used before. And I was, of course, also being satirical.
"Some of the least sexist people on Earth" no. Certainly not when they treat men as a hive mind that all have the same behaviour/attitudes and can be all summarised as criminal by default or the assumption that we don't have feelings.
