There were 107,000 deaths in America due to fentanyl overdoses/poisonings in 2021. Your thoughts?

[sage2021]

China makes the fentanyl which is shipped to the southwestern part of America and smuggled in the USA 🇺🇸 to kill more Americans. Why doesn't Biden do a darn thing to stop them?

[goaded]

I'm sure the government does try, but anyway their bodies, their choices.

Aren't you more upset at the US companies that pushed opioids, pretending they weren't as addictive as they were?

"Prior to the 1990s, the use of opioids as a pain treatment was reserved for the most severe forms of pain, such as cancer-related pain symptoms. Medical practitioners were well aware of the strong similarities between opioids and heroin in terms of their addictive properties and so only prescribed opioids as a last resort.

These practices changed in the 1990s in response to Purdue Pharma’s marketing campaign for its top-selling drug to date, OxyContin. OxyContin, a powerful opioid drug, was touted as a non-addictive drug suitable for treating most any type of pain symptom.

In 2010, Purdue Pharma generated $3.1 billion dollars off OxyContin sales alone. That being so, the company was eventually found guilty of misleading the public and ordered to pay penalties fines along the lines of $635 million dollars."
https://www.addictions.com/opiate/the-role-of-pharmaceutical-companies-in-the-opioid-epidemic/

[exitseven]

Our overworked Border Patrol is confiscating tons of the stuff so you just know that tons more are getting through out porous southern border. It will only get worse too. This stuff is deadly , too and it ends up in all kinds of other drugs that are believed to be relatively "safe". The cartels can make counterfeit pills that look just like the real thing. Kids have no idea what they are taking and after they figure it out they are already dead. The only way to stop it is to secure the border but Biden will not do that, He needs to import as many voters as possible before democrats get voted out of office in November. They have 6 more months to burn this country to the ground.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[OlderAndWiser]

Where is Hunter making his money?

[AndyFo]

The simple answer is it will never stop, if you truly believe a border can stop nefarious individuals from getting drugs into this country than your not looking at the bigger picture. This is not a political issue no matter how hard you want to make it one, no matter how hard you want to slander the other side. Do I approve of Biden? No. Did I approve of Trump? No. Both are morons with their own styles of stupidity. The real issue here is that everyone is so hell bent on politics and making the other side look bad that nothing ever gets solved.

"Screw the Democrats, you can't have this."
"Screw the Republicans, you can't have what you want."

This is tit for tat, schoolyard immaturity at its finest, a highschool government where children are senators saying if you won't cratch my back I won't scratch yours and I WILL make damn sure your name is slandered with as many lies as I can to make you look bad.

Wanna get a leg up on this drug situation? Get us a government that isn't a bunch of grown children. That will never happen though so more people are just going to die and thats the true unfortunate loss of this situation.

[Oigit]

Fentanyl was quickly picked up by the international drug trade. Also there are many versions of fake Fentanyl in circulation as well. Also as much as we don't want to think about it, Americans and buying and selling it to other Americans. Many organizations involved in the international drug trade do have a presence in the US so they are also buying and selling it here. So it's a safe bet that not all the real or fake fentanyl on the street is coming from China. That and it's a safe bet that a sizeable percentage of the fake fentanyl is being manufactured here by Americans.

[Fireguy17]

i think it is just ging to get worse.
we have 1 frequent flyer that we have brought her back at least 20 times.
She even crashed her car at our firehouse.
In all honesty it doesn't matter who the president is, the "war" on drugs has no chance at all of ever succeeding, there is just too much money involved.
If China didn't make it someother country would, just like meth, heroine, and so many others.
It still keeps going back to just too much money there.
There are already so many laws on the books that make it illegal that more laws just won't do a thing.
Until society in general changes, good luck with that it will pretty much always be around, until the next something better comes along.
Go back in history and see how well prohibition worked out.
but if you can figure out how to stop it you will get the nobel peace prize thats for sure.

[FunkyMonkee]

Why would they have to smuggle it in? They could just pull a wagon full of the shit in behind them as the cross the southern border!! Nobody's gonna stop them!!
Why doesn't he do a thing to stop it? Because, we, the majority in the co8ntry, haven't done shit, as is our right by the 2nd Amendment, to oust that motherfucker and put in someone we think (or, in this case, KNOW) will do a much better job!! Fucking Howdy Doody could do a better job of running this country!! Where's Buffalo Bob smith when you need him? Clarabelle would do a much better job than Camel Hairs and Phineas T. Filibusterer could replace nuttty Nancy!!

[FunkyMonkee]

Anyway, we HAVE to put a stop to all those deaths!! They're all gonna end up voting democrat in the next election!!

[Anonymous]

pretty sure Biden wants it here. No question he was well paid by the cartel to allow it. But yeah, I've read the reports where I live and fentanyl in MY area is up over 300% in the past year. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Biden's open door bullcrap on the southern border though. 🤣 Reading news reports about all these drugs being laced with fentanyl is scary af.

All we can really do is be careful what we put into our bodies. Know where it comes from. And hope that someday, enough people will be pissed off about it that the government will feel compelled to act.

[AviatorTom]

Unfortunately, the COVID-19 pandemic has overshadowed all other deaths. That's unfortunate, because the US death rate has been rising long before COVID, due to fentanyl, opioids, murder and other reasons. See the graph below. There has been so much emphasis on COVID that other issues have not been addressed.

United States Deaths (2000-2022)

[RolandCuthbert]

What the fuck?

Fentanyl is smuggled through Mexico. No one is smuggling drugs from China.

Who cares where it is made. The issue is to stop it from coming into the United States. And we know how that is done. By corrupt officials.

[Agagagagaga]

The Chinese are directly providing the chemicals needed to manufacture fentanyl to the cartels. The cartels then smuggle it across the border, sell it to Americans, and kill them.

Yes, the issue is to stop it coming into the United States. By actually taking border security seriously as well as cutting off the supply to the cartels from China.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Agagagagaga And?

What are we supposed to do bomb china? The relationship is already in the toilet. We are poised to enact sanctions if China, invade Taiwan, tries to protect Russia from sanctions, and/or intimidates other nations in the South China. And we can't stop the flow of drugs because we have corrupt officials on both sides of the border.

If you want to stop the flow of money, stop criminalizing drug use.

But we know ya can't do that. Right?

[Agagagagaga]

Why do we have to bomb China? That’s a hell of an escalation.

Simple. We stop doing business with them on certain things on trade and actually sanction them for a goddamn change instead of kowtowing to them because of their customer base.

Don’t for a goddamn minute act like we need to legalize fentanyl. It’s a goddamn drug used for people dying on hospice and in pain from terminal cancer. Some 20 year old junkie in good health doesn’t need that shit.

And since you believe there are corrupt officials on both sides and border control is completely pointless, let’s just say fuck it and wave everyone through. Come on in!

[RolandCuthbert]

@Agagagagaga Why on earth would be punish our businesses over the drug war in America? That's just stupid. I mean, probably in a few months we will be in that position anyway because we are heading to more than a few confrontations with China.

But pretending that the drug war should be one of them is just weird.

The Drug War has never worked. It has never decreased drug use. All it did was feed our prison system. Just stop criminalizing it. Give drug users therapy and alternative drugs and get them back healthy.

We have done this for years. But my guess is that this is just a disingenuous conversation, since we have tried this policy with Mexico, Columbia, etc. etc. . . and it has always failed.

Legalize? WTF?

Dude, stop criminalizing drug use. What good is it throwing folks in jail for drug addiction?

If you want to try to catch pushers and distributors, cool. . . good luck. If we were any good at that, we would have caught all of them long ago. We have well-established methods for getting folks off fentanyl.

www.opiates.com/.../index.html

[Chiarac2003]

Close the border and let immigrants come into the country like they used too. I couldn’t go over the border to SPEND money yet the border was open in the south and they got phones n transportation!🎀

[RealMarek]

These deaths are among constituents that are not aligned with the elites and that are despised by the elites. They have no interest in stopping this destruction.

[Jay3344]

It was an issue under Trump and Obama too. There must be a lot of money involved to prevent all these administrations from being useless in preventing society from falling prey to this poison.

[joeldalton]

Biden won't do a darn thing because the destruction is on purpose.

[BillyBalls]

Because doing something to stop the illegal flow of drugs into this country would be racist!!!

[Amur8711]

Because they are in bed with China and other countries that are Against the American Dream!

[Anonymous]

Yay we got rid of the loser.


Been saying drugs will murk you since the 80s. But dummy still do it



Now. if it was laced on something no drug related then k feel bad but im pretty sure that's not even 5%

[Anonymous]

Ask yourself why Jo Jo the clown won't finish a border wall that's already been paid for.
China owns the clown.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

If you have not figured it out yet. The whole Biden family is in some manner is on the payroll communist China so we are already a suburb China.

[Lord_Saddler]

Welcome to the US Century of Humiliation!

You get what you deserve, dear Americans!

[Agagagagaga]

Again I ask you, Lord Fucktwit, America deserves what for what?

[Intothevoid666]

Biden doesn’t know what planet he is on half the time I think ur expecting a little much here

[MrTaboo]

That's Biden's boarder plan.

[Anonymous]

Biden is bought and paid for.