Why should people support the United States and its global interests?

[Lord_Saddler]

As a Western citizen, I studied the US history and found out that

#1 They supported right-wing dictatorships like the ones in Chile, Argentina, Brazil. And religious dictatorships like Saudi Arabia.

#2 In a time span of 60 years, they invaded Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and bombed Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, helped destabilize a dozen of countries and killed almost 6 million civilians.

#3 Every kind of bizarre behavior is quite much normalized in the US society. From mass shooters to husbands who enjoy watching their wives have sex with other men. The US culture seems really weird.

#4 It's quite obvious that the US leadership seeks world domination. An analysis of the work of the US most important "think tank" intellectuals, from Fukuyama to Brzezisnki, corroborate it.

That said, why should a non-USian/non-Western person support the US or the "collective West"?

#western #westernculture #USA

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Correction: As a non-Western citizen.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

They shouldn't.
I'm absolutely against enabling American interests - or for that matter, foreign - on my soil.
Now that I've been made persona non grata by Russia for rightfully persecuting Russian criminals in my jurisdiction, people are asking me if I'll turn to the US for help - not in a thousand years.
It would be like making a deal with the Devil - whatever they'd give me, the price would be terribile. Better eat ground radishes with honor than eat with US dollars and be dishonored!

[Lord_Saddler]

"Better eat ground radishes with honor than eat with US dollars and be dishonored!"

Awesome quote.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Thank you, it was a spur of the moment.

[Whatever2929292]

Under Trump AMERICA WAS GREAT (until about 2020 when he went along with COVID up until that point) Brandon fucked everything up and now we are kind of a joke.

But I think people should still care about US!!! Hell the election was STOLEN anyways

[purplepoppy]

Because countries function better when they have good relationships with other ones and it's wise to pick your allies carefully. America may have more than it's fair share of nutjobs but its still a better bet than say siding up with Russia or China.

[Lord_Saddler]

"better bet than say siding up with Russia or China."

Wrong. But it's okay, I know I can't expect any intelligent take from you.

[Lord_Saddler]

Neither China nor Russia seeks world domination, for starters.

[OldWorldOrder]

China and Russia also aren't hell-bent on spreading AIDS and destroying the institution of marriage.

[Juxtapose]

No she's right man, America is far from perfect but it's better to have than Russia or especially China.

[OldWorldOrder]

@Juxtapose lol no

[Anonymous]

Ask yourself would you rather be part of the American empire or be ruled by China or Russia?

[Lord_Saddler]

Excellent question. China, of course. Would be fine with the Russians too.

I'd choose sanity over "fweedom" and "duhmocwacy" any time of the day.

[Opinion Owner]

You remind me of those very few spies during the cold war that defected to the USSR only to be shocked by how people lived there when they got there, they lived the rest of their lives in a two room apartment in a concrete block apartment in misery.

[Lord_Saddler]

Westerners live in misery if you ask me. The cost of living in the US is insane, the cost of education, healthcare and a home is unaffordable for most people.

In addition to it, Westerners have no morals, are materialistic, many of them follow weird lifestyles, politics is a shitshow. It's a failed society that serves no purpose other than a role model of what society shouldn't be like.

[Opinion Owner]

We can afford to buy bread in the west with no bread ques. Russia for instance between it and Ukraine produce 25% of the world's wheat yet there are bread ques. The cost of living is so low in the west that people can afford to get fat or own a new car.

[Lord_Saddler]

Cars, guns and food are cheap in the US, everything else is expensive.

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Excellent question. China, of course. Would be fine with the Russians too.

I'd choose sanity over "fweedom" and "duhmocwacy" any time of the day.

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You remind me of those very few spies during the cold war that defected to the USSR only to be shocked by how people lived there when they got there, they lived the rest of their lives in a two room apartment in a concrete block apartment in misery.

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Westerners live in misery if you ask me. The cost of living in the US is insane, the cost of education, healthcare and a home is unaffordable for most people.

In addition to it, Westerners have no morals, are materialistic, many of them follow weird lifestyles, politics is a shitshow. It's a failed society that serves no purpose other than a role model of what society shouldn't be like.

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We can afford to buy bread in the west with no bread ques. Russia for instance between it and Ukraine produce 25% of the world's wheat yet there are bread ques"

Fake news.

[Gangactivities911]

How r u gonna tell me Russia and chinas humane rights record is better than the us? Like what planet do u live on?

[Lord_Saddler]

@Gangactivities911 Planet Earth. In the last 60 years how many foreign civilians the USA, Russia and China killed?

The USA: 6 million approx (the wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, the bombings of Pakistan, Yugoslavia, Syria, etc).
Russia: 1.5 million (mostlt in the Afghanistan war).
China: a few thousands (during the Sino-Vietnamese conflict in 1979).

Conclusion: the USA has a much worse human rights violation records than both China and Russia.

[Gangactivities911]

What about the rights of women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan that improved during the us occupation? What about the brutal communist dictatorship that came about in Vietnam and Cambodia when the us left the region? What about domestic human rights? China uses forced labor in prison and works people under worse than slave conditions in these prisons. What about chinas current genocide of uiyghurs. What about the way they treat all their neighbors including India and Tibet and Taiwan? All the countries we hate tend to grossly violate their own domestic human Rights which can’t be said of Russia and China. What about the way we treat gays compared to China and Russia. Certain places in Russia still see homosexuality as a serial crime. How can u say we have a worse human rights record? We have brought a basic standard of human rights to many 3rd world countries like Afghanistan and Iraq. And personally I don’t see why u expect us to care about many of these places in the Middle East and Africa that treat women and children and gays like shit and the majority of the population agrees with it. Executing gay people like they did in Iraq? Really? Wtf is that so many of my friends and even my cousin would be executed in Iraq just for being gay if we lived there? That’s vile and disgusting and a country who has practices like that deserves some shit and I’m not really sorry for them tbh.

[jshm2]

In other words :

The USA was a counterbalance to the Soviet Union. It should have been revoked along with the Soviet Union - as it's taken it's place.

[exitseven]

Nobody ever supports the US. Even our so called allies would just as soon see the US burn in hell. That is why Trump's America First policies were so effective and why European leader hated Trump so much.

[FilmGuy93]

The same things can be said of every other country too, though. So the question you have to ask yourself is whether your quality of life, opportunity, etc. is better in the US than in other countries.

[Lord_Saddler]

"The same things can be said of every other country too"

No, it cannot be. Since 1991 it's the US that's causing too much problem for other nations and people.

"So the question you have to ask yourself is whether your quality of life, opportunity, etc. is better in the US than in other countries."

I basically accused the US of being a global mafia, what does your statement have to do with it?

[FilmGuy93]

Even if that were true, which it is objectively not, "Since 1991" is a laughably short period of time, even in US history. And the reason your quality of life matters is because the way a country is using its resources is a big part of why someone would support a given country. Every country is engaging in this behavior, but the US (and other western powers) use the resources they gain from their foreign policy to give their citizens certain benefits.

You might be loyal the to the US, simply because your quality of life is better here than elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZQB7uWuWpBw

watch this video from start to finish

[Lord_Saddler]

Very interesting video.

[baserunner611]

If you believe in Western democracy or but if you don't, you got Russia 🇷🇺 and China 🇨🇳 it you choice

[Lord_Saddler]

I'm very fine with China ❤🇨🇳. Your stupid Western duhmocwacy serves us no purpose.

[jimmy2]

Well like most places in the world drugs and companies who hook from theitlr pharmacy is got it bad here now

[Anonymous]

America became the laughingstock of the world when they elected Trump. How can anyone take the country seriously?

[Lord_Saddler]

The US became the laughingstock of the world when they waged wars of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam, when they bombed Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, when they invaded Somalia and Grenada, when they used the dollar standard to recklessly print money and export their inflation to other countries, when they supported the apartheid state of Israel, when they support dictatorships like the ones in Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Saudi Arabia, when they attacked free press and conspirated to punish Julian Assange.

Isn't it enough for you?

[Gangactivities911]

Cuz u live in the west dummy… it’s not complicated.

[Lord_Saddler]

I'm not a Western citizen.

[Gangactivities911]

“As a western citizen” isn’t that what u said?

[Lord_Saddler]

I had corrected it in my question update.

[Gangactivities911]

Because ur an ally of the us and we baby sit ur economy and national security. U think the Middle East and Africa are better? U think Russia or China are better? Take ur pick here.

[Gangactivities911]

I’m honestly really sick of Europeans shitting in us the only reason u have public healthcare and all these extra government programs we don’t have is cuz we spoil u guys with trade deals and with NATO.

[Gangactivities911]

Also u all invaded Iraq and many of those other places with us. U like gay rights? U like being able to have sex outside of marriage u like porn? U like numerous other freedoms not found in most of the world? Well then stop complaining. Iraq used to publicly execute gays who tf cares about them? They were an economic and millitary threat to us. Ask me if u care that millions of people who would publicly execute or jail me and virtually everyone I know died, seriously ask me if I care. Why do u care about a lot of these shit hole places is the better question.

[Gangactivities911]

Husbands watching their wives have sex with other is not the norm. And mass shootings are a thing in a lot of places but sure hate us for having mass shootings

[Gangactivities911]

No one expects non westerns to support the west. But u live in the west so do u want ur world to disappear before ur eyes or not? Cuz we’re dangerously close to that happening

[Gangactivities911]

Why should I as a westerner support places who would criminally punish me and everyone I know? Most of u hate homosexuals for like no reason. Most of the world can actually go fuck itself and see if I care. A lot of the world is gross disgusting cultures if u really want to know my opinion

[Waldoe]

why are you asking Nasty Political questions... This is GaG... not the "New York Post"