How do people rape and commit other atrocities? How does their conscience not rip their heart apart?

[Juxtapose]

I have some my own ideas on this but would like to hear from you lovely guys and gals.

[Fuentes]

That's the problem their brain is so mentally ill they have no conscience and the ones who are "doing to others what was done to them" is they once had a conscience but since it happen to them as kids they think it's normal. Same way some men & woman who think domestic violence is OK and it's not. It's super whack but they have a lot of issues. Not everyone reacts that way after dealing with weirdo stuff but a high percentage do. Something is mentally missing.

[RealMarek]

There are many ways to reach this end. Some people are sociopathic and lack a conscience altogether or view their targets as a sort of extension of themselves, others dehumanize their targets or are propagandized into doing so, others begin with minor transgressions and escalate gradually so as to deaden their conscience, others adopt a nihilistic philosophy that negates morality, etc. and etc...

[RolandCuthbert]

This is you asking this question?

You are kidding. . . right?

Objectification. You post about negative stuff about "Black" folks all the time. Because you have objectified them.

Read Elie Wiesel's "The Night".

He describes the process of genocide and other global atrocities perfectly. The Nazis did what they did to the Jews because they no longer had a human connection to the Jews and other groups. It was like they were simply "objects". So when they were murdering men, women and children, it wasn't like they were doing it to real human beings, like themselves.

In social philosophy, objectification is the act of treating a person, or sometimes an animal, as an object or a thing. It is part of dehumanization, the act of disavowing the humanity of others. Sexual objectification, the act of treating a person as a mere object of sexual desire, is a subset of objectification, as is self-objectification, the objectification of one's self.

[Juxtapose]

Hahaha you are as ridiculous and hyperbolic as ever! I don't hate blacks smh wtf is wrong with you?

[Exterminatore]

This is exactly why I can’t take woke people seriously. All these mental gymnastics that make literally no sense.

It is true the Nazis dehumanized the Jews. He’s right on there. It’s everything after that.

Like sexual objectification. It’s impossible to have sex without it. Each person looks at the other as their source of sexual gratification. That’s how it works. It’s no crime.

[RolandCuthbert]

The nazis never hated the Jews either.

Dude, read a fucking book. You are dumb as fuck. Start with "The Night". Elie Wiesel will explain to you how your belief system works. Because you don't even know what you believe.

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude throw that work canned response crap in the garbage. Elie Wiesel wrote "The Night" before your balls dropped. I had to take up the Holocaust in Philosophy Class. Knowledge is power dude.

Objectification has to do with dehumanizing groups. Which you freaks do on a daily basis.

@Juxtapose does it so much, he doesn't even know if he is legitimately bisexual. That's how fucked up you guys are.

[Juxtapose]

I openly classify myself as bisexual but yet I do not know if I am bisexual? Please tell me more about myself, surely you have lived in my shoes for more than my 33 years if you want to speak about my life Ronald.

[RolandCuthbert]

No dude.

I asked you were you groomed into being a bisexual? Did someone when you were a little kid, convince you that you were bisexual?

Now do you have a brain? Or do you need to find a youtube video?

[Juxtapose]

LOL! No dude I realized I am bi the same way you realized you are straight. I got aroused by guys snd girls before I knew what sex was.

[Juxtapose]

*and

[RolandCuthbert]

So why do you pretend that other kids, teenagers, and adults are groomed when you were not?

I asked you that before and you never answered.

I can't play with you now. I gotta get a shave, haircut and catch a flight. I will write back Saturday/Sunday.

[Juxtapose]

That's fine man take your time, it's just an online discussion after all.

Well, look at drag queen shows that have flashing neon signs that say "it isn't going to suck itself." Drag queen shows are very sexual and inappropriate for children, yet the alphabet community insists on dragging children to these abominations.

Then you have "maps" which are pedophiles that say they are "minor attracted persons." Now on Twitter you can't even call someone out as a groomer when they're saying blatantly pedophilic shit.

Teachers are trying to indoctrinate young kids into being trans or whatever else, that is grooming.

[Exterminatore]

@Roland

First of all, don’t ever talk like that to me again. Got it? We can have a discussion without the name calling. We don’t need to agree about everything.

Second of all, you call me a dumb fuck, yet believe the Nazis didn’t hate the Jews. What planet are you from? Sure, they tried to exterminate them because they loved them so dearly.

This is exactly the problem with woke folk. They’re dangerous. All kinds of fancy mental gymnastics that lead you to places like: “the Nazis didn’t hate the Jews.” What? The Nazis were blinded by systematic racism and subconsciously hated the Jews but really didn’t hate them, it was just their societal programing or some other BS? I don’t give a rats ass about his belief systems or yours. The Nazis hated the Jews period.

The Holocaust in philosophy class? What in the hell is there to philosophize about an attempted genocide? Gtfoh. You think we’re F’d up?

Ok. I’m gonna go philosophize if it’s wrong to kidnap blacks on another continent and enslave them. I don’t think the people who did that were evil. They just lacked education. They really didn’t hate those black people. It was that their whiteness prevented them from being able to see the evil they were engaging in.

This is how you sound to me. Very silly.

[Alwayreckles93]

Rolandcuthbert What about that Dopayo racist brat that keeps on harassing people? Your the racist one on here. You useless mother I see never even bother to raised you right since I see you start calling people names. I don't appreciate called my friend Exterminator names you do realize you just disrespect a veteran! He fought for our country , What have you done in your useless miserable life? Apologize too my friend! Your racist black friend Tornado and Dopayo have been harassing us none stop! Exterminator he is smarter then your useless ass he knows how to speak more languages. You don't know how to speak other languages other then English. You blacks amazed me lol

[Alwayreckles93]

@Exterminatore Sir this is what I was referring too. He sends Tornado and Dopayo to harass us.

[Exterminatore]

@reckless

I don’t mind talking to him so long as he keeps his insults to himself. I don’t have to agree with his points. He doesn’t need to agree with mine. I don’t mind talking to people I disagree with.

However as for the other 2, I blocked them both. I’m not going to be harassed by either. They can go be full of hate in their own little worlds.

Thanks for sticking up for me, I got it from here.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Exterminatore You are welcome Sir , I always defend all of my friends.

[Chazmatazz269]

Tribalism allows us to dehumanize everyone who isn’t like us. It’s not atrocious if they’re less than human. There’s also justification. As in, if we don’t kill them they’ll definitely kill us; so it’s really self defense by offense.
These are the mindsets of the radicals on both sides and the media makes it feel like the norm, G@G and other “social” media included. That’s why it feels like we’re on the verge of war. We’ve already stepped over that line into dehumanizing sociopolitical detractors. Detractors became “opponents”. Now opponents are “enemies”. It’s not a huge leap to “kill them all” from there.

[BadRepresentative]

They find a justification. People can do a lot just by saying, this is okay because of x. For example, we're designed with an us vs them mentality. If we make the target the 'enemy' then it's fine to hurt them because they're the 'enemy' and they're despicable people.

[NamerOfStars]

Usually, they've been inundated by enough propaganda (from both within and without) to stop seeing the targets of their actions as people. Dehumanize someone enough, and it doesn't matter WHAT you do to them.

It's not limited to those who PERPETRATE the atrocities, either- think of the War Prayer.

[davner]

they dont have pity like others. this could be cause they didn't GET pity before they turned the other way.

emotions, mental conditions, childhood, all play important roles in this.
maybe they gave up on humanity, or maybe it was the way they perceived the world (maybe they learned to see it from a different angle due to other influences, eg: abusive parents, manipulation...).

but honestly i wouldn't really know, im just making wild guesses.

love the question though.

[TheSpaceGnome]

It's because they are dumber than the general population by a large enough amount.

Intelligent people do not do these things, you need to understand things to have empathy.

[Juxtapose]

Cognitive empathy sure but affective empathy, where feelings are contagious (your lover's pain is your pain to an extent for example) seems to be by nature in my opinion 🤔

[TheSpaceGnome]

I don't see them as different. Either way they would have to understand it first.

The only way pain is contagiously empathetic is because the empathizer has felt what pain feels like, and then can use their common sense to extrapolate how bad something probably hurts.

That is still cognition creating empathy.

A person born with the genetic inability to feel pain cannot understand it.

[Juxtapose]

People are specifically labeled as sociopaths because they have cognitive empathy but not affective empathy.

People who have affective empathy but not much cognitive empathy are autistic, I am one of them.

[Juxtapose]

[TheSpaceGnome]

Your definition of cognitive empathy and affective empathy doesn't match mine.

All empathy is cognitive, and whats affective is situational. You can't ever feel another person's emotions, you can only feel your own emotions (even if they are the same and you understand theirs).

And knowing what someone thinks or believes isn't empathy by itself, because you can know and not understand or care, or you can think they are stupid, none of which is empathetic.

You need to understand to have empathy, but understanding doesn't grant empathy automatically, you have to also be geneticallly prone to caring once you understand, and the person you are understanding also has to appear in line with your moral compass and not be at fault.

A sociapath is a person who genetically lacks negative emotional responces to trauma on themselves or others. it is a person who does not worry, does not show concern, does not care about negative impacts or loss. Most therapists and psychiatrists and police and soldiers are sociopaths, really anyone who when terrible things happen they keep a smile on their face.

Autism is way overly diagnosed, most cases are just docs drug pushing and not real austism.

[Juxtapose]

Well I can assure you I went to the best children's hospital in the United States and got multiple different opinions, I do indeed have autism. And how I described empathy is how psychologists describe it, especially in relation to that image I posted.

[Juxtapose]

If I yawn and you want to yawn as well then that is an example of affective empathy. Autistic people will get that response but not sociopaths.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Yawning when others yawn isn't an emotional response, its a physical one, a survival reflex, your body is simply programed to yawn when you hear or see yawning, or when you ar tired (likely for oxygen or sleep cycle benefits). Even a complete sociopath or a person who hates everyone and is dumb af can be forced to yawn for the same reason.

[TheSpaceGnome]

are*

[TheSpaceGnome]

People who don't yawn when others yawn are not doing so because their energy and oxygen levels are too high to trigger it.

[ChiTown33]

I would think to understand that you'd have to be a rapist. I don't understand it either. What I don't get is what triggers it. The nature vs. Nature theories. I mean I get it if someone came from a broken home. They would have every excuse to be f***ed up. But what about the one who come from seemingly NORMAL households. Why do they sometimes turn out to be such a f***ed up human being.

[Avicenna]

They are sociopaths and have dehumanized those who they victimize. It's standard in a long-running conflict or when there is longstanding hatred.

[Subarugirl]

Two reasons, they have no conscious and they dehumanize or feel like are entitled to their victims.

[2facedfa1ry]

psychopathy, sociopathy and severe mental illnesses that make you think weird and make you justify doing horrible things

[cth96190]

Because they are sociopaths.
The software of their operating system is different to that of ‘normal’ people.
There is no place for sociopaths in a civilised society.
They need to be culled, or exiled.

[Juxtapose]

Some of them can have good cognitive empathy and are completely non-violent. But these murderers and rapists should be dealt with quickly I agree.

[JayParris]

Contrary to the feel-good idea that we are all God's children, there are some people walking around with absolutely no soul whatsoever.

[FilmGuy93]

When you've been conditioned to dehumanize other people, violating their rights becomes easier.

[qwert1234]

They don't see their "enemies" as human.

[anylolone]

You assume wrongly it doesn't, actually everything rips them apart from the inside, that's why they do it, to rage against everything on the outside which is blameless.

[OddBeMe]

It gets them off, usually sexually. Its the downside of having such powerful brains. The nature versus nurture debate, I beleive, falls on a combo.

[Shiningtempest]

@Juxtapose Sadly, some people will display sociopathic or psychopathic behaviors. As a result, some people will commit atrocities without hesitation.

[KrakenAttackin]

Being abused as a child is a huge indicator or being able to abuse as an adult. Every male serial killer of women has one thing in common, a horribly abusive mother.

[Wade12345]

How do whores and whoremongers commit their whoredoms? How does their conscience not rip their hearts apart?

THEY DON'T CARE. It's that simple.

[Exterminatore]

I have no idea. I can think of no pain worse than a guilty conscience.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

Have you ever heard of the words psychopathy, hate, healousy and revenge. If a person is a psychopath they feel no remorse or pity. If a person is consumed by hate jealousy or revenge they could be capable of everything

[Snakeyes7]

You have to be seriously fucked in the head.

[maximumpower]

Much easier to do if they're not considered people.

Some who do it have no conscience.

[msc545]

You assume via your question that everyone has a conscience. They don't.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

These people are insane but they will answer to their Lord

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Have you heard my short story? ↗

Read this

[SlangSlayer]

It wasn't considered bad until maybe 150 year ago.

So about 2-3 life times ago

[SlangSlayer]

Like society stigma. Also it was harder to prove. And if you had kney you can get away with it.

And if you think your superior you probably wouldn't feel bad

[FunkyMonkee]

Easy! They don't HAVE a conscience!!

[Jamie05rhs]

They do not know Jesus.

[AsaKyo]

Mentally ill

[VV3ZZY]

Animals