No I understood you completely. However by the same argument you turn something great into a terrible crime by overdoing it. Furthermore everyone draws their lines at different points. It can be easy to cross a line from chivalry into sexism by your argument.
What are you talking about? Chivalry is stuff men do targeted at women... so in that situation there's a giver and there's a receiver... how is that related to sexism against men.. Dude you're all over the place
At one point perhaps they were. And you say that with what sound like a “women just are and men have to be told” attitude.
There are expectations of men that are not reciprocated by women. I wanted to know if people think this fact is sexist. Apparently you don’t because of separate expectations men have for women. That’s fine.
Well I'm not taking someone's side or " defending " women... And yeah we can agree that modern women have so many problems... I'm just being logical and realistic that's all... And for my personal expectations... They're definitely high because I think a man and a woman should spoil each other... I personally don't even notice girls unless she's treating me with some level of admiration.. " chivalry " as you might say
Yes, sexism is to treat one sex different from another. Being chivalrous in the commom tongue is about treating women with additional respect. Now, the question is.. do we care?
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Moderate chivalry is good... Treating someone like they're always handicapped is not... It's always about balance
So if I call a black man a ginger once it’s okay but twice I’m racist?
Lol what... That's what you got from what I said? Lol
No I understood you completely. However by the same argument you turn something great into a terrible crime by overdoing it. Furthermore everyone draws their lines at different points. It can be easy to cross a line from chivalry into sexism by your argument.
So again… Is chivalry sexist.
Not it's not... And from experience I think women really like it.. It's like you said... It can be easy to cross a line from chivalry into sexism
Of course women like chivalry it’s solely meant to benefit them… tf you smoking.
Considering chivalry only benefits women and has no benefit for men does that make it sexist or not?
What are you talking about? Chivalry is stuff men do targeted at women... so in that situation there's a giver and there's a receiver... how is that related to sexism against men.. Dude you're all over the place
Do women expect chivalry?
Not all of them
Ok some do. Now… is chivalry expected of women?
No need to... Women are naturally givers and nurturing
At one point perhaps they were. And you say that with what sound like a “women just are and men have to be told” attitude.
There are expectations of men that are not reciprocated by women. I wanted to know if people think this fact is sexist. Apparently you don’t because of separate expectations men have for women. That’s fine.
Well I'm not taking someone's side or " defending " women... And yeah we can agree that modern women have so many problems... I'm just being logical and realistic that's all... And for my personal expectations... They're definitely high because I think a man and a woman should spoil each other... I personally don't even notice girls unless she's treating me with some level of admiration.. " chivalry " as you might say
I appreciate your honest answer.
Anytime 👍
No, it bloody well is not! Chivalry has been around for hundreds, if not thousands, of years! No degenerate wokies can stop that.
Simples...
This wasn’t the question ya Brit lol.
Look at a few of the responses and you’ll understand it is sexist but that’s arguably alright.
Many women still want all the benefits of chivalry.
It is sexist towards men. Chivalry degrades men to the role of slaves/servants.
I don’t think it goes that far. I think it’s more like an unfair expectation considering nothings offered in return.
If you think chivalry is sexist then you are doing it wrong.
Chivalry is not sexist. Courting was only limited to Nobles during the middle ages.
Today, Chivalry is a trademark of a gentleman.
Yes, sexism is to treat one sex different from another. Being chivalrous in the commom tongue is about treating women with additional respect.
Now, the question is.. do we care?
O my bad, I was too fast. I thought it was another 'does it exist' question
well not very men out there have the title of a knight and back then society was way different.
I've yet to meet anyone who found chivalry sexist and not flattering. Note, I'm chivalrous to everyone irrespective of gender.
Costs nothing to be Nice. Essentially what chivalry is
Chivalry is not women's. It's how we act with everyone, not just them.
Can you give us a definition of "chivalry"?
Mens deference to women. Holding doors, pulling out chairs, paying for the first date, women and children first in an emergency, etc…
Basically any expectation that is uniquely expected of men by women but not reversed.
I believe in the emergency management aspects of chivalry.
I do not believe in the dating aspects of chivalry.
And yes, it's all sexist. But that's by design. That's kind of the point.
lol I agree. It is the point. And it is sexist. And it’s not wrong either as long as both sides have expectations their meeting.
No. More like unneeded in this modern era
Dude wtf?
@WhiteBoyChill the “Don’t Need No Man” movement has spoken.
It’s never been needed just wanted. Preferred. Like respect. And like respect I think it should be earned rather than expected.
@VanillaSalt Amen brother
Def. not