Is this what Communism looks like?

[RolandCuthbert]

Marjorie Taylor Greene says a GOP-led House will investigate companies that stopped donating to Republicans after the Capitol riot

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-gop-103731242.html

As I have said time and again, these fake conservatives don't care about Communism, socialism or any of that stuff.

They will subscribe to any "ism" that gives them power and control over you and yours. It is just a matter of whether or not you want your ruler to be a woman who believe the Jews have giant orbiting space lasers that cause wildfires. . . as apart of the climate change conspiracy theory. . . or not.

And the business sector has only themselves to blame. It is understandable to side with actual Conservatives and real Republicans for decades because of economic policy. But siding with anti-semites, election deniers, anti-vaxxers is the road to perdition. There is no way to have a functioning society built upon lies, mythology and an anti-fact/anti-science ideology. And if there is no functioning society, then there is no environment for business to flourish. Because every business would have to give up control to the insane crazed political establishment. Every business decision become political, simply because the political establishment says so.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/29/1041493544/youtube-vaccine-misinformation-ban

YouTube Is Banning All Content That Spreads Vaccine Misinformation

[USLegionary]

I stopped listening to whatever most politicians say.

No different than the democrats having the IRS audit Conservatives and conservative businesses.

The far left of the democrat party is just as full with of antisemitism, election deniers and antivaxers.

Big buisness has too much say over politics in the US as it is. If republicans are getting less money from corporations and lobbyists that will likely help their cause. In general most us citizens are very concerned about our politicians being bought and paid for by special intrests groups and looking after corporate intrests rather than the intrests of the people. As well as the federal government over stepping unnecessarily into average people's lives, this is not a left vs right issues as most people are neither democrat or republican and are conservative or liberal on different issues depending rather than following party lines.

[RolandCuthbert]

Of course, you listen to what politicians say. Look at your post about IRS agenda "auditing conservative businesses".

Haha!

What in the sideways F is a Conservative business? MTG names the businesses who stop contributing to republicans as "leftist".

So the fact is, they didn't change their political positions. They simply withdrew their support from candidates who supported violence.

[goaded]

Actually, I think attacking companies who don't support the regime is an authoritarian thing, fascists do it too.

Like in Hungary: "Elections there are free, in the sense that the vote counts aren’t nakedly rigged. But they are unfair: The government controls the airwaves and media companies to such a degree that the opposition can’t get a fair hearing. Orbán’s party, Fidesz, stands up bogus opposition parties during parliamentary elections as a means of dividing the anti-Fidesz vote. In April 2018, Fidesz won the national elections, cementing Orbán’s hold on power; international monitors concluded that the opposition never really had a fair chance."

He's been teaching Americans how to do the same at CPAC.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/13/17823488/hungary-democracy-authoritarianism-trump

[RolandCuthbert]

Wow I didn't know that about Hungary. No wonder Orban was invited to CPAC.

[Anonymous]

You're describing fascism, not communism, and questioning election results in light of overwhelming evidence and questioning vaccines when you are given no scientific basis to trust them other than "government officials say so" is not fascism or communism. There is no anti-fact or anti-science movement when no facts or science is given, and no debate or discussion is allowed. Your calling for the silencing of these ideas is the definition of communism, which hundreds of millions of people fought to escape in the 20th century.

[RolandCuthbert]

What is the difference between fascism and communism? I mean, I know the difference in the classical description. . . but in reality, both function the same way.

The government collects resources and distributes them as it wishes.

[Anonymous]

They’ve become a party of fascists. Amazingly, all it took was a long time New York liberal running for president under their banner to bring it out of them.

[Anonymous]

The Republican party is only interested in two things: revenge and power.

All I keep hearing from them is that "when the Republicans take back power/control, we're going to go after <insert perceived enemy here>."

They have no platform, no policies, and no plan. All they want to do is go after everyone, and everything, that they think has wronged them, real or imagined. The "imagined" part is what scares me, because they have become so ridiculously paranoid, they see enemies and conspiracies everywhere.

They think everyone is out to get them, so that means that want revenge on everyone, and they will burn this country to the ground, in order to get that revenge. Then, they'll stand atop the burning, smoldering remains, and blame that on the "Libs", too.

[RolandCuthbert]

We are in the new age of McCarthyism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkYl_AH-qyk

[Agagagagaga]

Revenge? No. I just want you all to stop grooming children and telling me that men can give birth. Oh and it’d be nice if gas wasn’t stupid expensive and my grocery bill were lower. Oh and it’d be nice to also (I know this is a big ask) not keep finding a pointless war in Eastern Europe that continues to escalate? Call me crazy but I really don’t see why I should care about the Donbask.

You take yourself waaaaaay too seriously and have a very active imagination. Revenge has nothing to do with it. You don’t take revenge on clowns. You just quietly usher them off the stage when people get tired of their antics.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga "it’d be nice if gas wasn’t stupid expensive" On a totally unrelated note, Shell just reported record profits for the quarter, double last year's.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded As far as the Right is concerned, that's totally unrelated, and probably also somehow Biden's fault. 🤦‍♂️

[joeldalton]

So like the lies that the covid shots prevent transmission of covid-19? Those kind of lies? The lie that a woman can cut her tits off and be a man? Those kind of lies? Or claiming that Trump said “there are good people on both sides” to refer to white supremacists? Or calling Trump an illegitimate president? That kind of election denial? I’m wondering exactly if your concern for anti-facts and anti-science is consistent.

[goaded]

The vaccines prevented transmission of the original strains. Surviving infection with that covid variant doesn't prevent transmission of the newer variants, either.

[RolandCuthbert]

Wow a post with more than two sentences in it.

Can you prove that someone lied about the covid vaccine preventing the transmission of Covid?

In your world, a person should go to jail for simply saying. . .

"COVID 19-vaccines are effective at protecting people from getting seriously ill, being hospitalized, and even dying. "

And to show the depths of your insanity, everyone should consider this;

We don't even jail anti-vaxxers.

Even the insane rabid nonsensical anti-vaxxers are allowed a voice in America. But you would threaten people with jail time because they believe in science.

That is earth-shattering.

[joeldalton]

@goaded No they didn’t. More lies.

[joeldalton]

Here’s the potato claiming that you have a very very very low chance of gettin and spreading covid if your’e vaccinated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SkzTa8HRDk

[Agagagagaga]

@joedalton Don’t bother. Liberals have memories shorter than a goldfish and standards that move like a fart in the wind.

[joeldalton]

Rachel Maddow:

Well, today, the CDC reported new data that shows that under real world conditions, not just in a lab, not just extrapolating from tiny numbers of test subjects but looking at thousands of front line health workers and essential workers who have gotten vaccinated and who have since been doing their jobs and living in a real world, not only are the vaccines for those folks, thousands of them, keeping those people from getting sick from COVID themselves, those vaccines are also highly effective at preventing those people from getting infected, even with non-symptomatic infection. And if you are not infected, you can`t give it to anybody else.

And I know this sounds like an incremental piece of news, but sit on this for a second enough to absorb what this means, right? What this means is that we can get there with vaccines. We can end this thing.

It means that instead of a vaccine being able -- excuse me, it means instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person to person, spreading and spreading, sickening some of them but not all of them, and the ones it doesn`t sicken don`t know they have it and they give it to mere poem because they didn`t recognize, right? Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person, potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and drug resistant along the way, now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.

A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to get more people.

[joeldalton]

Director Walensky of the CDC

WALENSKY: First of all, I just want to note that I share this optimism. I`m so -- I`m so impressed with our ability to vaccinate at a clip of 3 million vaccinations a day. We have 93 million Americans who have gotten their first dose, 51 million who have gotten their second dose.

And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don`t get sick, and that it`s not just in the clinical trials but it`s also in real world data.

[goaded]

Great, a video from May 2021, and two transcripts from March 2021. That was before the Delta variant was even named. A lie has to be untrue at the time it's told. Like almost everything you say is.

[joeldalton]

@goaded shit-for-brains, you just said the shots stopped the original strain. PS Pfizer admitted they never tested their shots to see if they stopped transmission. So all of it is lies. But that’s what you’re good at.

[goaded]

This is the bullshit right wing all-or-nothing crap once again, isn't it?

"highly effective" doesn't mean completely, 100%, effective, the disease goes away overnight like magic, it means it reduces the chances, at the time by a huge amount. It is a hell of a lot better than nothing.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Nice try, but you got caught lying. Are you going to man up about it?

[goaded]

Nice try, but as anyone can see looking back in this conversation, you're the one lying.

That's why you're the person I was talking about here Anyone try voice recording a pathological liar to get them to take responsibility? ↗

[joeldalton]

@goaded I provided receipts. You lied.

[goaded]

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"
Sounds like you.

You provided three examples of people saying what the evidence of the time confirmed. Trump, a year earlier, was saying "This is a very contagious -- this is a very contagious virus. It's incredible. But it's something that we have tremendous control of.". And he knew a month earlier that it was airborne.

[joeldalton]

@goaded yes. They lied. Because Pfizer never tested the ability of the shots to stop transmission. So to make those statements is a lie. You repeated those lies.

[goaded]

If you're less likely to get the disease, you're less likely to transmit it. Is that beyond your comprehension?

Oh, wait, this is your right-wing all-or-nothing bullshit again. If it doesn't "stop" transmission it doesn't "reduce" transmission, because there's nothing between 100% and 0% except anything where "both sides" do it, which is always 50-50.

[joeldalton]

@goaded You’re the guy who thinks women should kill their unborn child because birth control isn’t 100%, right?

But you got caught lying again, time to man up about it.

[goaded]

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie."

You were cornered, so you went with another lie. You might like to go with the "shut up" option next time.

If you're less likely to get the disease, you're less likely to transmit it.

This is your right-wing all-or-nothing bullshit again. If it doesn't "stop" transmission it doesn't "reduce" transmission, because there's nothing between 100% and 0% except anything where "both sides" do it, which is always 50-50.

[joeldalton]

@goaded you’re so dishonest you can’t even read plain English and admit they were lying. Sad, sad, sad

[goaded]

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie."

I guess you're still not interested in the "shut up" option.

If you're less likely to get the disease, you're less likely to transmit it.

This is your right-wing all-or-nothing bullshit again. If it doesn't "stop" transmission it doesn't "reduce" transmission, because there's nothing between 100% and 0% except anything where "both sides" do it, which is always 50-50.

[RolandCuthbert]

I have said the exact same thing. My doctor has said the exact same thing. My microbiologist has said the exact same thing.

So this means, you are not pretend insane.

You are for real insane.

In a free country, where you can be for vaccines or against them, you would jail people for disagreeing with your batshit politics.

It is communist. It is insane. It is irrational. And it is you.

[joeldalton]

You’re a dipshit, Roland. I clearly showed in plain language that several people lied about the shots preventing transmission. Not ‘kinda sorta’ reducing transmission like goaded is lying about. But flat out saying these shots were our “way out” of the pandemic. All of that was unscientific lying. Pfizer admitted they never tested how they stopped transmission. Now you lunatics are trying to memory hole and gaslight what happened over the past two years. But we won’t forget.

[RolandCuthbert]

@goaded It doesn't matter. He is batshit crazy. And even worse, he thinks his insanity is political.

Everyone must comply with his batshit theory or face jail.

That is who they are.

They can't save one fucking life. They can't cure one fucking person. But they can force you to dig the graves of your loved ones and if you did not, they would throw you in jail. This while their chief turd and everyone his family gets vaccinated, then lies claiming they don't like the vaccine, they themselves rushed to the public.

We are facing this as a nation, pretending you can reason with these insane people. Even in a nation where they are free to believe in their batshit insanity, they are still unsatisfied. And too many rational folks think these people can be appeased. Appeasement lead to the deaths of 80 million people in WWII. I don't think we are going to learn in time to save the human race.

[goaded]

You lied, and pretended people talking about the situation in early 2021 weren't telling the truth when there hadn't been any significant variants of the virus at the time.

You lied and pretended anyone was saying vaccines would "stop" transmission, and not reduce it significantly, which is what it did.

You "lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie".

[joeldalton]

@goaded not a soul believes your bullshit gaslighting. No one. It’s in black and white what they said. They lied.

“ A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to get more people.”

And you lie to cover for them.

And Roland forgot his meds.

[Agagagagaga]

www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-2021-video-saying-vaccinations-prevent-covid-resurfaces-1726900

“On July 21, 2021, during a CNN Town Hall, Biden asserted: "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations."

“You’re okay, you’re not gonna get Covid if you’ve had these vaccinations.” —President Joe Biden

😐

[goaded]

You keep referring to statements made when they were true and claiming they're lies. When Maddow said those things, end of March 2021, Delta made up 0.04% of cases in the US. That variant then went on to decimate unvaccinated people. Are you too thick to understand that things change?

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Yeah, Biden overstated his case, he used absolutes. He was fact-checked the very next day, and guess what? Everybody believed the fact-check. Tell me a fact check against Trump you believe.
www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-spread-misinformation-covid-vaccines-1612181

What Biden said was correct for the majority of cases at the time, just not absolutely ALL cases. You could get hospitalised, go to the ICU or die when you'd been vaccinated, but it was a hell of a lot less likely. We're back to the right-wing inability to comprehend any probability other than 100%. If something's not 100%, it must be 0%. At least if you don't like it.

[joeldalton]

@goaded They weren’t true when Maddow made those statements. That’s the point. Pfizer admitted they never tested the shot’s ability to prevent infection. There’s no way you could EVER make such a statement without propagating a lie.

I know it’s tough for you, because you hung your personality on being a covid warrior for 2 years before you became a Ukraine champion.

[goaded]

Bullshit. It was true. It was from a CDC report that found precisely that people weren't getting infected at anything like the rate unvaccinated people were, and if you're not infected, you don't transmit it.



Things might have changed since then with other variants or more information becoming available, neither of which would make what she said a lie, it would make her wrong.

You're familiar with being wrong: you were certain that the case fatality rate was 0.15%. It's killed 1% of the people with confirmed cases in the US. Twice as many in Peru.

What you're pretending were lies are 99% right, but your lies are 99% wrong. The other difference being that believing your actual lies leads to people dying.

[joeldalton]

@goaded aaah, and here comes the pivot of the discussion, another tactic you use when you're losing. I'm used to it, because it happens more often than the vaccines prevent infection. They lied You believed it and promoted the lies. If you admit you were lied to, then you wouldn't be complicit. But you still promote the lies after being shown the truth.

[goaded]

You lie and lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

Explaining the best available information is never lying. It may turn out to be wrong, but it isn't a lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded It was a lie when Pfizer never tested the efficacy of preventing infection. I know you aren't bright, but that's the textbook definition of a lie. And you still claim those shots prevent infection. That's a lie. You don't ever get tired of embarrassing yourself, do you.

[goaded]

What are you talking about, you silly man? The CDC report Maddow was referring to looked at people with and without vaccinations and regularly tested them to see if they'd become infected. How could reporting what the CDC had found be "lying"?


That was well after the phase III testing and nothing to do with it.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Pfizer admitted they never tested the efficacy of the shots in their ability to prevent infection. I don't know how much clearer to type those words out to you.

[goaded]

You keep saying that as if it has any bearing at all on the CDC research that found they worked well, which is what Maddow was faithfully reporting. How can accurately reporting on the findings of some research be lying?

[joeldalton]

@goaded Because the shots never were effective at preventing the spread of covid. To say otherwise is to lie. To continue to do so in October of 2022 makes you an idiot.

[goaded]

Yes, the shots were, for a while, effective at preventing the spread of covid, that's what the CDC research showed. Once more: how can faithfully reporting scientific research be lying? Every time you use the word, you're lying.

[joeldalton]

@goaded How could CDC research show that when Pfizer never even tested it? I really can't believe that you're so ignorant about how the CDC and big pharma work.

[goaded]

Because it's CDC research, not Pfizer's. Duh. Does that mean that you accept that accurately reporting CDC research is not lying?

[joeldalton]

@goaded No, it's promoting misinformation. That gets you banned off twitter and social media, right?

[goaded]

So now you're saying CDC research is misinformation? Is that why you're here, Twitter and FB banned you for all the lies you tell?

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

[joeldalton]

@goaded It's absolutely misinformation to state that if you get the covid shot you won't get covid. Every person who repeated that lie is guilty. Including you.

[goaded]

Now you're lying about what Maddow said: "those vaccines are also highly effective at preventing those people from getting infected, even with non-symptomatic infection". Not perfect, not 100%, but "highly effective". You want to pretend that she was saying 100%, and also that not-100% means 0%. You're sick.

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

[joeldalton]

@goaded A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them.

[goaded]

Some of them it does. Most of them it doesn't. Same as catching many diseases, e. g. my sister had measles twice. The CDC established in July 2021 that the vaccine protected people from infection. Maddow accurately reported that information. NOBODY said 100%. You claim she was lying. Because you lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Then you wouldn't say "the virus doesn't infect them". You would say "Most of the time the virus doesn't infect them". But keep on lying. It's funny watching you make a fool of yourself.

[goaded]

You keep lying about what she actually said. Because you lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

Here's what she said: "there`s a scientific gray area about whether once you`re vaccinated you can still get infected. It may not be an infection that will give you symptoms, it may not be an infection to send you to the hospital, that will kill you, but can you get infected with mild symptoms or no-symptoms even if you have been vaccinated? ... Well, today, the CDC reported new data that shows that under real world conditions, not just in a lab, not just extrapolating from tiny numbers of test subjects but looking at thousands of front line health workers and essential workers who have gotten vaccinated and who have since been doing their jobs and living in a real world, not only are the vaccines for those folks, thousands of them, keeping those people from getting sick from COVID themselves, those vaccines are also ***highly effective*** at preventing those people from getting infected, even with non-symptomatic infection. And if you are not infected, you can`t give it to anybody else."

Next lie?

[joeldalton]

@goaded ******highly effective****** is a lie, too.

[goaded]

You keep lying about what she actually said. Because you lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded “highly effective” is anther lie. I know you need to believe the lies, but you need to keep your delusions to yourself.

[goaded]

You keep lying about what she actually said, also what the research said. Because you lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded I quoted verbatim what she said you idiot.

[goaded]

But you didn't understand it, apparently. Does "highly effective" mean 100%? Did you say it was a lie? No, and yes, but you lied about that.


You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Oh, no. I got you on an autistic rant. Go outside and take a breath of fresh air.

[goaded]

Liar. "Highly effective" does not mean 100%. You claimed it was a lie and didn't even know where the research came from. You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded isn’t it funny that you’re the only one saying “highly effective” means 100%? “You will not get covid” means 100%. “Highly effective” means certainly more than approaching 0% after a few months. Smallpox vaccines are “highly effective” and we don’t have smallpox anymore. Does your retard brain see the difference?

[goaded]

No, nothing about your lies is funny. You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser.



You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded she lies and you lie about it.

[goaded]

You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser, because you're thick.



You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded I think all the boosters have given you some blood clots in your brain.

[goaded]

I know that you're lying. As always. You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser, because you're thick.



You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Your autistic rants are veering off into pathetic territory.

[goaded]

Ah, another lie. I know that you're lying. As always. You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser, because you're thick.



You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded I’m happier that OP gets an alert every time you post your bullshit.

[goaded]

That's the difference between you and me, well one of them. I give a shit about other people. You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded I really don’t think you give a shit about other people.

[goaded]

Another lie, intended to distract from your other lies. I know that you're lying. As always. You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser, because you're thick.



You keep lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.

And OP is either enjoying this or has muted it.

[joeldalton]

@goaded You’re a good advocate for post-birth abortion.

[goaded]

And you're a good example of a pathalogical liar who keeps lying until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie.



You said that Maddow, reporting accurately CDC findings, was lying. A lie. You implied that anything other than 100% was useless, a lie. You didn't even comprehend that the CDC could do research independent of Pfiser, because you're thick.

[joeldalton]

@goaded i want to see if I can get you to post that picture again, you know, because you’re my bitch.

[goaded]

I'll post it again because every time it proves you're a liar. But we know that, don't we?



Maddow was not lying, she was accurately reporting CDC research that found the vaccines were effective.

[joeldalton]

@goaded you did it!! You’re a very obedient little man.

[goaded]

You obviously want to believe you're in control of something, even if it's not your life. It's really sad. Maddow was not lying, she was accurately reporting CDC research that found the vaccines were effective.

[joeldalton]

@goaded what good boy you are.

[goaded]

Not a lie:
A lie: everything you say

[joeldalton]

@goaded 100% lie. They are not highly effective, they never had been. And just like big pharma lied about opiates, they lied about this. And you gargle their cock and ask for more.

[goaded]

No, you're lying as usual. The CDC performed the research not "big pharma", and it clearly showed vaccinated people being infected 90% less than unvaccinated. Then there was the whole unvaccinated minority of people making up most of the people dying for quite some time.



When you start being crude it shows you're desparate. Remember: "to be a Republican means that you have to first and foremost be able to lie. And lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

[joeldalton]

@goaded you’re a good little monkey posting that picture for me.

[goaded]

I'm glad my pointing out your lies makes you feel in control of something, even if it's not your life. Look: it says "Those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected".

[goaded]

The one from the CDC report that says "Those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected"? You're welcome.

It looks funny next to your lie.

[joeldalton]

@goaded yeah, that lie. That’s the one. They were never 90% less likely to become infected. And you lapped it up like an obedient dog

[goaded]

So the CDC research that said "Those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected" was wrong, and you are right? I suppose we also imagined all those months of unvaccinated people being far more likely to be hospitalised? You're lying, you know it, but you won't admit it.

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

Next? Only it will be the same one again, because you're an idiot.

[joeldalton]

@goaded It’s not just me who is right. It’s everyone who reads the research and sees the reality of the world. Only you folks with your head up Pfizer’s ass don’t see the truth. As they say, it’s easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.

[goaded]

I said it would be the same lie again.

The research that shows the vaccines were doing a great job was not done by Pfizer but by the CDC and state agencies. "Those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected". There were also months of unvaccinated people being far more likely to be hospitalised. You're lying, you know it, but you won't admit it.

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

Next? Only it will be the same one again, because you're an idiot.

[joeldalton]

@goaded And 90% is a lie. Always has been. And you’re a sucker for it.

[goaded]

I said it would be the same lie again.

The research that shows the vaccines were doing a great job was not done by Pfizer but by the CDC and state agencies. "Those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected". There were also months of unvaccinated people being far more likely to be hospitalised. You're lying, you know it, but you won't admit it.

"lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

Next? Only it will be the same one again, because you're a predictable idiot.

Here's the picture again, because it makes you wet.

[joeldalton]

@goaded you are an amazing autist.

[RolandCuthbert]

You can keep peddling the same conspiracy all you wish. But I know that now you are just a fake disingenuous liar. I will never take anything you post seriously again.

You are just the unknown political comic at this point.

[joeldalton]

I love how you are trying to twist hour complicit behavior in this nightmare on me. It's really epic-level projection. Don't worry. I won't forget no matter how hard you try.

[RolandCuthbert]

@goaded Dude, I have no time for this dude. Obviously he spends every waking moment on the net. He has no real life. And his entire personality is built upon lies. Lies about his political views, his racial ones, etc. He can post hypocritical contradictory nonsense. . . and not even bat an eye.

[joeldalton]

yawn.

[DiegoO]

I would like to point out certain parallelism between how my country headed to a dictatorship, and how the US is dangerously on the road of heading that way. Some will not believe it. I get that, but I am still publishing a MyTake related to the topic.

[RolandCuthbert]

They don't get it. They only see their politics and the people they have been told are their enemies.

They don't understand without advocating for freedom, justice, and equality for everyone, we are done.

[DiegoO]

Just expect the best. There's not much to do when most of the population decides to look for messiah, instead of a pragmatic reasoning.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Curious about your opinion of Chris Hedges (if you are aware) would also be interested to hear @RolandCuthbert s take

[DiegoO]

@Ill_made_Knight I don't know anything about him.

[Ill_made_Knight]

fair enough

[RolandCuthbert]

@Ill_made_Knight I have no idea of whom you speak of.

[Ill_made_Knight]

all good. He was a journalist that was in the former Yugoslavia as it fell

[jshm2]

Greene is as unhinged as Trump. You can't take either seriously

[AngryCarl]

She's worse. I don't think Trump believes his own bs. I'm sure her IQ is in double figures. (just barely)

[RolandCuthbert]

Well, we had better. Because this crazy mf is going to be running a congressional committee if the Republicans take the house.

[TroyDT2]

I expect the GOP to take the House at least. When they do, I hope they do not go down the path that the lunatics want. Unfortunately when power flips, the new powers seem to almost always assume that it is a "mandate" when in all likelihood it is instead the middle persuadable voters wanting some course corrections not a wholesale purge.

[Twalli]

Why do companies that stopped donating need to be investigated? A company can choose who and what to support whenever they want to. The conservatives fought hard for this to happen. They can't really get mad when it doesn't go their way.

[RolandCuthbert]

That's the point. But trumplicans are claiming equivalency. There is some conspiracy out there now that "conservative" companies are being investigated.

[NewsReader]

You should know by now that she is a democrat

[RolandCuthbert]

Where do they get these guys?

[NewsReader]

Nevermind, I confused her with Liz Cheney. I don't know much about MTG, but she obviously does not belong in the Republican party. She does not represent what it stands for.

[goaded]

Utterly shameless.

"In other words, to be a Republican means that you have to first and foremost be able to lie. And lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie. And that especially irks me, having done a record about all of the ways that people will consciously and unconsciously be dishonest with each other."

[NewsReader]

@goaded You must be stupid if that's what you think

[goaded]

I was replying to your original assertion that MTG is a Democrat. If I'd read your explanation that you were talking about Cheney (daughter of VP Dick Cheney, lifelong Republican) I'd have included the previous statement:

"... essentially the reason why Liz Cheney isn't in the Republican party was because she refused to lie."

[RolandCuthbert]

@goaded Well, this Republican party is not our Father's republican party. It isn't the Republican party of my high school years. It isn't the one that had philosophical debates about capitalism and socialism. It isn't the one favored a smaller federal government and giving back power to local jurisdictions after the civil rights era.

Nope, this party is extremism. And most of this is going to come back to bite them, the very folks sponsoring this stuff, right in the ass.

Religious extremists are going to oust atheist conservatives. Racists are going to turn on all non-"Black" groups because of their weird theory of "White" purity. And the anti-vax, anti-science crowd will eventually turn on the business community.

Because none of what they preach is about rational thinking, caution, planning, facts or evidence.

It is all about power, control, and all of the lies you can tell to keep that power and control.

[RolandCuthbert]

It is just trolling Goaded. To state something that is so obviously a lie, in hopes of changing the conversation to something else.

[Agagagagaga]

He IS stupid. And a non-American. In other words his opinion is completely worthless.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Ad hominem. Look it up.

[Agagagagaga]

@goaded I don’t need to look anything up to tell me that the opinions of non-citizens on US politics and government are worth a steaming pile of shit.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Why do you think your opinions on US politics and government are worth a steaming pile of shit? I wouldn't even give you a tiny piece for them because they're wrong. Did Biden win the 2020 election without any significant fraud?

[Agagagagaga]

@goaded Simple. I live here and pay taxes. Do you?

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga That affects your cognative abilities how, exactly?

[ViceGAG]

@goaded what’s this Ukrainian doing here?

[goaded]

@ViceGAG What Ukrainian?

[ViceGAG]

@goaded you Ukrainian?

[goaded]

@ViceGAG No, me British ex-Pat in Germany who thinks Russia should have stayed the hell out of Ukraine. I have opinions about lots of countries, but it's America that worries me more than Russia at the moment.

Baby noises is just looking for a reason not to answer questions or talk about facts.

[ViceGAG]

@goaded when America throws you into the dumpster and you need gas ⛽️ come to russia, putin is forgiving.

[goaded]

@ViceGAG Tell that to the people who fell out of windows or got polonium, or novichok poisoning.

[AngryCarl]

Communist or Fascist, all totalitarian regimes end up looking the same. And they usually start with the collapse of the economy. Buckle up guys, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

https://youtu.be/Y0Ud71Unluo

[Anonymous]

China is communist. China is what communism looks like.

[Anonymous]

They say love is blind. So is extremism.