Everyone who supports voter id's, wold you be OK with every voter automatically being issued a voter id card free of charge?
6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Most people on both sides are actually fine with voter ID now. The left just balked when republicans kept getting caught on tape bragging that the intention is to discourage black people from turning out and so it would allow them to "win" elections.
Personally, I think voter ID should be issued for free at the polling place on election day. You can get it in advance too, of course, but no one can tell me a good reason that should be a requirement. The problem is when you suggest issuing voter ID for free at the polling place on election day, those few who secretly do only want voter ID in an effort to clip the margins of black voters will object, because it nullifies that scheme. And since they are really the only ones being aggressive about wanting voter ID in the first place, it dominates the conversation - no one who wants voter ID for genuine fraud concerns is also wanting to put any real effort into ensuring no eligible citizen gets turned away - and so it won't happen.15 Reply- +1 y
Only a Liberal would think Black people are incapable of obtaining an ID card.
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When you have 100+ million people on both sides you can find people on both sides that believe and say anything and everything.
The actual rules and enforcement are what actually matters and to that end the believe of the people ACTUALLY in office making said rules may be an indication of what said rules would be and how they are or will be enforced. NOT any one of the millions who claim to support or oppose them.
The whole point of Voter ID is to verify your entitled to cast the 1 vote your casting.
Same day registration and ID issuing misses the point entirely, as there is ZERO time taken to verify citizenship, and unique registration to insure you are in fact only casting 1 vote.
You should register months in advance or however long it takes the state to verify theses things.
Nobody is entitled to simply go to a new place and immediately wield power over it. That is madness and unfair to the locals who has lived there for years getting to know its issues and needs.
So frankly there should be a minimum 1 year waiting period before even a citizen gains a vote at a new place a residency. 1 year to give them time to learn the neighborhood they will be wielding power over. 1 year is more than enough time for the State to verify their citizenship and unique registration.
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Why does it take time to verify citizenship? All this stuff is done electronically now. You think there is some multi day ritual appeal to the gods to wait for a sign or something? No. It is the same process of issuing voter ID at any other time, but at the polling place on election day. I understand what you're saying, but what you are saying is ways to limit who votes without equal effort given to ensure every citizen is given access to the ballot with as little impedence as possible.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThe whole point of ID is to verify you are in fact casting only the 1 vote your entitled to.
This means verifying citizenship and unique district registration. For the most part this isn't happening in many states. They are not verifying your only registered there, some are not even verifying the address you give them actually exist as a residency much less your residency.
How are people suppose to trust said 'elections' represent the will of the people of said community if we didn't even bother to verify the voters ARE the people of said community?
Then there is Carpetbaggers who just move to a place and immediately begin telling the locals what to do before they have had a reasonable amount of time to actually learn what the local issues are.
Some states like Georgia are soo bad many people moved there for no other reason to just vote in their elections. The result was Georgia's newly elected federal representation ended up voting to send a large amount of Georgia's money to other less responsible states. States from which the key voters who elected them came and later returned.20 Reply
+1 yThe idea is good, that it should be free to get... I don't support them automatically getting it mailed to them. As it should be picture ID (hard to get if they get it auto mailed.)
No reason that it shouldn't be free for everyone to get, but still need to go get it, prove who you are in the process, which in itself is often the complaint. They want items to prove who I am that I don't have, that will cost money to get. Often things like birth certificates, or other forms of ID they have to pay fees to get those to show they are who they are.
To be truly free then those other items would also need to be free. Then again I have no idea how these people who don't have those even get jobs, if they have no way to prove who they are to a employer.
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Asker+1 yWould you support getting voter id's in the mail, if the voter applies online which includes uploading a picture of their self?
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If there is a way to prevent fraud, cause I can see knowing someone's information and pretending to be them.
If I know someone's SSN, birthday, mothers maiden name, name, address, etc... couldn't I just pretend to be them and get a card mailed somewhere.
I've been in over 30 hacks myself, so I'm sure my information is all out there for someone to pretend to be me.
Honestly I prefer that buying a gun and voting have the exact same legal requirements. They should match as they are both rights. Both you should have to prove who you are and that you have the legal right to exercise that right.
Especially rural here, no mail comes right to my house, have to pick it up at the post office. There is no home delivery.
+1 yOf course not. There is not such thing as free. Everyone that votes should pay $100 for a voters ID card; good for 4 years. Anyone that doesn't wish to pay doesn't need to vote.
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Asker+1 ySo your against the poor voting?
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Anyone with the intelligence to vote or even with an IQ of 90 can pay $100 to vote and they will if they deem it important enough. However, if that prevent, monkey see monkey do from voting, I'm for it.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "voter ID." Do you mean an actual state ID, or some kind of temporary ID just for voting only?
Either way, the issue is that Democrats want to rig elections, and have illegal immigrants and dead people voting, so it has nothing to do with money or "them poor black people not being able to afford an ID, cause yadda-yadda-yadda racism, white supremacy, Trump." So nothing should be done to make election fraud even easier than it was in 2020.
20 ReplyI'm not going to get really deep into this subject. Just take note in the US you can't legally enter most Federal Buildings like a Courthouse W/O an ID. This same thing applies to a lot of state buildings. In about another year or so if you don't have a real ID you can't enter a military installation. You can't fly either. Almost all social services like SNAP require some form of an ID at some point. This ID thing with regard to voting is a red herring. Show me someone existing in today's society W/O an ID of some type and I will admit I am wrong!
10 Reply5.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It would HAVE to be free.
Requiring a voter ID card to vote and that card would cost the voter money is a violation of the 24th Amendment.
Specifically, someone having to spend money to acquire a voter ID card necessary to vote is a form of poll tax that they would be required to pay and that's a clear violation of the 24th Amendment.
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AMENDMENT XXIV
Section 1
The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax.
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The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.=====
10 Reply5.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Of course. You should also be able to fill out a voter registration on your smart phone on election day then be able to vote on top of that the same day.
As the rules right now, 17 year olds can early vote and will be counted as voters if they turn 18 by November 8th. At the same time early voters that pass away before November 8th will not be counted because of the death.
The entire voting system is self contained in its own right. So i ask what protection is provided by adding a driver's license? While the DMV conveniently let's you update your voting registration while updating your driver's license they have nothing to do with each other in terms of government roles or responsibilities.
Untill picture day in high school helps you get a "voter ID" Registration and know how and where to vote I'm calling bullshit on voter id's.
01 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. People who are against are idiots but so are people who vote so to me it makes little difference. Just kinda like how voting makes little difference.
But also there should be Free ID's anyway. You need one to do anything that requires proof of age why should you have to pay for something to prove your own age? Lmao. So I don't understand why passports and stuff cannot be given by the governmental system anyway.10 Reply5.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes, of course. That ship has sailed, it's no longer a working mechanism to disenfrachise Democratic voters, they've moved on to other mechanisms. How about "one drop box per county", regardless of whether a county has 57 or 4,728,030 population (yes, almost 100,000 to 1 difference), or declaring that the (Republican, natch) legislature has the right to choose whether to accept an election result or not, without judicial approval.
20 ReplyGov provided ID and Registration for voting with selective service or any other 18 year old paperwork. At death all that is voided. Election Holiday so people can vote without hassle. End gerrymandering in a serious way. Basically remove the bits of the process that are laughable at this point.
10 Reply6.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. How hard is it to get them? Do people have to take time off work to go to some office on a weekday and then wait for hours?
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Asker+1 yExtremely easy, if you have a state ID or drivers licenses, that acts as your voter ID, if you have neither, than you either get a voter ID from your local DMV or go online and have one sent in the mail both of which would be free of charge.
That's already been suggested, but the left doesn't want it.
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Wrong. Having people automatically registered to vote is fought by Republicans.
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I live in America. Where do you live? - +1 y
Same. We've tried to make voter registration automatic with driver's licenses. Do you know who fought that? Republicans.
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You don't need to be an American to get a drivers license.
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And you can't vote unless you are an American. What's your point?
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You're not an American. Have a nice day. - +1 y
LOL You really think you know or can tell me what nationality I am? Really? That's quite the skill you have there.
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I know you're full of shit. - +1 y
Except you're wrong. Try again?
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@AndrésC64 About what?
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Everything you said thus far.
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Are you for a federal voter ID? - +1 y
It depends on how it was laid out.
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How should it be laid out? - +1 y
It was your idea. You tell me.
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That's what I thought. - +1 y
What are you babbling about? You suggested an idea and I told you that I might be okay with it depending on how it was presented. And I asked you how you would present it. So, can you do that, or are you just going to continue to spout nonsense?
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You're not worth talking to. Block me. - +1 y
Why would I block you? You're amusing.
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+1 yThe irony is that when you apply for your driver's license or state id, you are asked to register to vote on the same form.
10 Reply 27.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I live in a moonbat state and there is a free ID card you can get that is not a drivers license but just an ID card that gets you in to vote and more importantly buy beer,.
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+1 yOnly if you support needing an ID to practice religion, an ID for free speech and an ID for the right to free expression.
20 Reply 18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No against it.
1) there’s no need for them. Elections are secure. People saying different don’t have evidence and are mad their guy didn’t win.
2) “free voter ID” is impossible. Eligible voters would need some paperwork to get their free ID and the poor communities just don’t have them. So you’re hoisting loads of trouble onto the most vulnerable…again for a problem that doesn’t exist.00 Reply
+1 yI'm for voter ID. I'm fine with them being given out for free.
31 Reply11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. NO. I have no interest in normalizing or promoting right-wing paranoia about "voting fraud".
10 ReplyNo, because it's a waste of taxpayers hard-earned.
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+1 yWhat if someone STEALS my card?
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How would Democrats handle Republicans passing voter id laws if it included every registered voter receiving a free voter id card no strings attached?
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