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i am absolutely for abolishing affirmative action, cause that is the only systemic racism left in society.
the sole reason you're accepted in university should be your performance.
Admission should be on merit only.
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I've often said for admissions people should be assigned a number with all the criteria on it, but no names, no racial identifiers (names can sometimes give that away) unsure on gender but would rather have a # to identify and all the other criteria there.
This goes for job hunting too, up until someone is chosen to be interviewed. Same for colleges, if they need a certain GPA above a certain point, then race should not be part of it.
Ironically, I find this funny is that the higher performers get into college easier, but they are the ones most likely to be successful in life... while those who are lower are less likely to be successful in life and actually could use college MORE than the high performers... random useless thought for the day, that maybe if those people go to go to school more they'd be more productive in the end for society as a whole.
Even so, if a school doesn't accept everyone (around here, state run schools accept everyone, private ones do not.)
Private ones should have the right to accept on their own criteria so long as that isn't discriminating.
One of the issues that pop's up with this topic is that people who are for Affirmative Action Policies want them for everyone but themselves. So person A would say that people should leave collage to make room for minorities. But will give you millions of reasons why they shouldn't be expected to leave to make room for a minority student they clam to advocate for. It's like people that advocate for us to get involved in arm conflict B while refusing to enlist themselves.
In general you can't be the better person when you are being a hypocrite. So lead by example or keep your mouth shut. Because the moment you attempt to make yourself a exception, you are a hypocrite.
Well affirmative action doesn't work out well often because students are being given a break on their scores but drop out because it is too hard for them.
Here in Australian you can get a degree in housekeeping which is sort of affirmative action in that anyone could get that degree. Good luck in getting a job with it.
For. If discriminating on the basis of race is wrong, then it's WRONG, regardless of the races involved. Ditto for sex, or orientation, or any other demographic characteristic. If meritocracy is too much of a strain on certain groups, then the GROUPS, and/or the conditions they're operating in, should be improved; dragging everyone else down isn't going to help.
Race-based quotas are a form of racism, pure and simple. I'm okay with institutions using race information as one of several measurements to try to have a diverse student body, but a definitive quota is wrong.
Why would one try to have a racially diverse student body? And how could one hope to achieve such a thing without a racist policy? Aren't schools in the business of degrees and grades? Wouldn't a top performing student body be the best?
Although idealistic, affirmative action has proven itself ineffective and even hurtful. Unless I learn otherwise, I'm fine with the decision.
Against. Race should not even be on college applications.
The one (and only real) case of systemic racism and the left wants it to stay.
Ability and first come first serve seem like better criteria.
I don't think race should be a factor in anything
Strongly for, and a certain group of people are already complaining that this will further disadvantage black people
Which group?
For government-run schools, yes. For private ones, let them do what they want.
It should be repelled. Only results should matter, not your skin color.
About time that been going on for 50 years so unfair to most students
I wouldn’t want universities to offer less opportunities for minorities
It's not quite as simple as ending them all in fell swoop.
I guess we’ll have to see if colleges will only accept white people like in the past
They were illegal to begin with.
I have no idea what that even means.
I clicked "against" but I meant to click "for".
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