I got Tied to a Tree By a couple of Loud smokers, just for winning an argument?

[TJ1892]

Following the outcry to my last question so I thought I'd provide an example🤣A couple of months ago I was taking a few minute look and gaze at the hills in the distance while out for a walk on a weekend away on a lovely woodland trail, it was lovely until i was clouded with a wall of smoke from behind🥴I turned a few moments later after hearing a couple of LGBT remakrs and slurs in the conversation they were having. So I walked over and I confronted a man and woman about early to mid 20s and told the couple who were smoking like chimneys which smelt horrible and supposedly having a "picnic" when I confronted them I simply said "I don't want to inherit any damage from your smoke, and also its 2022 so maybe grow up with your slurs" 👌 The womans response was to laugh in my face and say "Mind your own buisness Mr, you sound like Kurt off Glee" her boyfriend laughed his ass off and told me to "Go away" with a few expletives, so I then pulled them on their ignorance and floored logic and why because they see someone like me they feel it okay to act in this manner? and they ended up tying me to a tree and carrying on anyway with their smoking and "Picnic" before driving off a short time later. 🙈 I think this is a great example of people not being able to handle losing an argument and accepting their own ignorance. Although people find this amusing even my friends, it highlights it to the tee. Do you agree?

I was in the right

I was in the wrong

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I was there for quite a while and bad a piece of tape on my mouth and mini muffin stuffed in my mouth. I was found by a dog walker, along with my friend Meg who came some time later after wondering where I'd got to.

[Paulalove98]

People are so ignorant and disrespectful these days for real! Even if it’s out in the open and outdoors they still invaded your personal space and did something rude, I can understand your point of view as well because at my college before there used to be a smoking area and there were benches too nearby so sometimes these smokers would stand around and walk around smoking near them! It was annoying asf but gee people can suck but don’t let them get you down.

[TJ1892]

Yup and then to respond to losing to an argument is to tie my up to a tree🤣shows how pathetic society has become.

[menina]

I believe that you were right. However, confronting them was a bad idea. They could have been violent and this could have ended up poorly. Fortunately you were able to get out of this scary situation. They were the ones who were wrong.

[TJ1892]

The part I don't get is the "bad" idea to confront them people refer to, I didn't want to passively smoke or listen to there blasting music😆🙈 It wasn't scary at all more cringey 🥴

[menina]

You didn't know how they would react. Imagine if they had a gun? I totally understand how you felt, but some people are crazy and violent.

[TJ1892]

I woudnt expect someone to pull a gun over a trivial dispute, but they weren't violent just annoying and morons.

[TJ1892]

Plus my mouth is my biggest weapon anyway 😂😂gets me out of nearly any situation

[menina]

Trust me, some people would take this so seriously to the point of pulling a gun.

[menina]

You're hilarious! 😂 😂 😂

[TJ1892]

I try my best😂😂 Jeez too much anger in the world isn't there 🥴I'd say getting tied to a tree is it ending pretty "poorly" tbf😂😂😂

[menina]

And you succeed 🤣🤣🤣 It is, but it could have been worse 🤣🤣

[TJ1892]

Very true it could have been they could have played heavy metal music or some wannabe gangster rap nonsense instead I got Lady Gaga, Pink and Beyonce👌Ngl I'd of been dancing (if I could)🤣😂😂

[menina]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dancing? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You wouldn't handle heavy metal nor gangsta rap 🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for the MHO.

[TJ1892]

Well yes I'd of be dancing 100% to pink? A bit of "so what" and "ring on it" 👌Sadly I coudnt move my feet or hands or hips at the time🤣 Oh god no😤🤣I'd of started crying, that would of been worse than the smoke and the "kurt from glee" comparison🤣🤣🤣👌

[menina]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I would pay to watch that!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[TJ1892]

I tried🤣🤣sadly it was just a loud orange gay guy humming *literally* 🙈to the beat🤣🤣😂Was so frustrating ngl when your impulse is to 🕺

[menina]

I can imagine 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[TJ1892]

I still rocked the situation 🤣

[menina]

Oh yes you did! 😂😂😂😂

[TJ1892]

Who else could do it like me hey? 🤣So frustrating not being able to talk especially when your as loud as me🥴

[menina]

Yup 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[TJ1892]

I gave a great humming chorus though don't worry 🤣🤣🤣

[menina]

I'm listening to it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[TJ1892]

I think they were jealous of my voice too 🤣🤣

[menina]

Maybe they were 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Anonymous]

Both yes and no. While your point about smoking is bad is correct, you could perhaps have been more polite with the way you asked them? Also we have no idea what logic you floored them with or how you said it.

[TJ1892]

But I wasn't in polite was I? I was assertive 👌 to me there's a difference. I pointed out there anti lgbt trope and ignorance for others in there close proximatey.

[Opinion Owner]

And why should other people there care if their slurs are juvenile or not? If a stranger interrupted a conversation to tell me my "slurs" are juvenile and that I should grow up I would have a field-day arguing with you until you regret you started the discussion.

I don't know what the people you talked to said. I don't know what logic you floored them with. I only know what you have stated here, and I feel you would have gotten better results being more polite.

[TJ1892]

But I stress you can be polite and assertive at the same time ! I used stereotypes back against themselves after they referred to me as "Kurt off Glee" (the gay guy on glee), I pointed out there lack of IQ and there need to act aggressive just because a little orange guy gay has confronted them about there ignorance I also pointed out smoking risks and after pushing him as I went to walk away, they tied me to a tree, turned the music up before leaving.

[Anonymous]

You were stupid for trying to argue with someone on an issue where there is no winning possible. I am not excusing them for their actions.

[dustybiker]

I do think you are right, of course.

I’ll answer this from a perspective taught to me in martial arts classes. We are trained to fight, but should only use it as defense.

It was dangerous to instigate them after they already threatened you verbally. Even though what they did was wrong, you didn’t have any self defense training to protect yourself. It was a bit silly to do that.

[TJ1892]

I understand what your saying but I shoudnt need to know "martial defenses" to expect to be able to go for a walk, admire the view of the hills without expecting to be submerged in a fog of smoke, then tied to a tree for winning an argument? 🥴I defend myself with my mouth, my big gob is a big enough detorant trust me🤣🤣🤣🤣👌

[dustybiker]

I get that. But if they are already starting an argument, the best thing to do is remove their power and ignore them. Be the bigger person.

[msmissydc]

You were totally in the right. Not sure about the smoking thing as that seems to be allowed but even than voicing you opinion was a totally right thing to do. What they did was literally deprivation of freedom and therefore hopefully a criminal act.

[TJ1892]

But do they have a right to smoke in my personal space? Because if I'm breathing it in then it's in my space. They justified it *literally* saying because I pushed him I "assaulted him" they told me that with me stood there.

[msmissydc]

As long as it was outside and not a non smoking area, they were allowed to. You could have seek distance. On the other hand asking them and confronting them in a non harmful way was in you right.

[TJ1892]

Exactly! 💯The worst thing I said was probably "ill give you a slap in a minute" to the guy and obviously the fact I pushed him as I went to walk off. But that was in response to them, It's not there right if I don't to I hale which I ended doing anyway in the end ironically.

[annabananna]

Those people sound stupid but for your own safety it’s best to leave people like that alone. I know of people who have been killed for small things from a stranger. Their are crazy people stupid people and hateful people. Leave them alone and find YOUR people. In this world it’s too dangerous to get into arguments with strangers.

[TJ1892]

Thanks, but from my view I had to confront them because you can't let ignorance win👌plus my big mouth is usually enough of a detorant 🤣

[Daniii101]

I can't believe people like that exist. You did the right thing but also put yourself in danger.

[Nikki1989]

You should have probably minded your own business. I am not excusing what they did to you, however.

[TJ1892]

This is what I don't get, if I am forced inhale their smoke *which is toxic* ? And if they feel they can splurt nonsense about things they clearly know little about, while being loud and obnoxious in a public place.

[AngryCarl2]

You're just a fucking Karen. People are allowed to smoke outdoors. If you don't like it, well, it's a big planet.

[TJ1892]

So because I don't like inhaling toxic smoke that makes me a "Karen" 😂😂😂 a Karen then woudnt bash them up verbally to the extent they coudnt handle it 😆

[AngryCarl2]

You could distance yourself from the situation with being a jerk.

[AngryCarl2]

*without

[TJ1892]

Sorry how tf was I being a jerk? In anyway shape or form?

[mandyfire98]

They physically tired you too a tree?

[TJ1892]

Yeah , I got tied to a tree. 🙈

[Guy13]

Sounds like you had a good time...

[TJ1892]

I've had funner walks

[Guy13]

Stay on the rail and shut up... Breathe more and speak less-people will not bother you as much.

[TJ1892]

Why should I? I'll bother them if they disturb my peace which they did

[Juxtapose]

You should be careful of what you say to people when you are alone, logic won't shield you.

[TJ1892]

Nah logic always helps😁

[gorydetails]

None of this happened

[TJ1892]

Well I think you'll find it did, so what a dead pan comment.

[gorydetails]

Ok, loser.

[legalboxers]

-blinks-

[TJ1892]

What 🤣