No child, or teacher should have to fear being shot at school.
We already know, they are not going to ban guns, so we need a better solution, than arguing about something that will not happen.
What can we do, to help diagnose these children, that are struggling with a mental illness, before they go on a murdering spree.
Children are dying, and making this a political argument won't resolve this.
What are realistic solutions, that we can think of
It's not a mental health problem. Well yes, awful or no mental health care is a huge problem in the US. But that's not really the cause of shootings. It's just a scape goat.
There's many people with mental health problems who don't become shooters. Having mental health problems doesn't make you a shooter. In fact most of the shooters straught up told us why they did it. So. I don't know, maybe if we take away the reason they did it then people wouldn't have a reason to do it anymore?
Like maybe, address the ridiculous bullying problems multiple shooters have said drove them to act in "revenge"? Maybe something like that. But okay—what if the shooter's reason isn't something that should be listened to? What if they're just racist or something, like multiple have been? Fair. So how would you take away racist shooters' reasons to be shooters? Well, take away why they're racist.
Obviously not simple, but you have to start somewhere. If a shooter leaves (for example) a list of people who influenced them to adopt or act on racist beliefs, then maybe we should look into whether those people actually promote blatant racism on large media platforms. And if they do, maybe we should maybe tell them to not do that. Or make it have some sort of consequence if more than 1 shooter specifically cites you as their inspiration? Something. Anyway.
But that's just a couple places to start, based on some shooters, not all. Still, probably would be more effective at specifically decreasing shootings than just focusing on mental health. Because shooters don't typically say they did it just because they were mentally unwell. And painting mental illness as the cause of shootings is bad, because that is something people have. It isn't like racism or bullying, which people do (and shouldn't). It's something you just have. And it's already stigmatized and neglected in society.
Associating mental problems with shooters—just like associating it with any criminal or violent behavior as it has been multiple times in the past—doesn't help people who have mental health problems and doesn't help stop crime or violence.
There is no doubt that bullying is a problem. But you are already deranged and mentally disturbed to go, somone picks on me so I will go kill random people and children.
I have been harrassed for many things in my life, never went I'm gonna go to school and randomly kill people.
Bullying is wrong, and also a mental disorder, but so is any crazy ass person who goes they made me mad, i will murder everyone in my path
Exactly. Framing them as disturbed, deranged, crazy, etc. Moves the problem from an intentional, planned, motivated action, to just some random burst of violence. It isn't. Most school shootings, are planned. Some meticulously. We KNOW this. Acting like we should be on the lookout for mindless, reckless people is seriously misleading.
Of course not everyone who gets bullied or is racist becomes a shooter. But like i said, shooters have used those as motivation. Never has someone shot up a school because they were depressed or narcissistic. There's always a direct, specific motive that makes them target *that school*. And those motives are what we need to address.
Absolutely, mental illness influences how a person reasons. It's less likely someone would commit suicide if they aren't suicidal, and we know shootings are a form of suicide because shooters plan to be shot by the police. But do you really think being suicidal CAUSES shootings? I don't. I agree it can make the consequences of being a shooter seem less bad, which influences how likely you are to be one—if you actually have a *reason* to want to be one. Which again, mental illness isn't a reason to be a shooter.