If I own a private prison, why can't I "abuse" the strongest most violent prisoners as my source of free labour?

[aldine96]

The thirteenth amendment literally allows slavery as long as it's prisoners punished for a crime and I kind of want to own and operate a drug, vegetable, fruit, hemp, cotton, and brazilian tree plantations and use the biggest strongest most violent convicts as my free labor and hire some overseers to whip them and torture them if they fail to work or disobey their overseers orders or my higher orders.

[jshm2]

Because you must not be able to directly link the two. The rule of thumb is "as long as it's not in court, it's legal"

Democracy is about being extralegal, and not allowing law and legal to get involved. It's how billionaires can get away with not paying tax, but a minimum wage slave like you cannot.

[Anonymous]

The constitution also prohibits cruel and unusual treatment so torture and corporal punishment are out. Prisoners can be assigned work. However, most states prohibit free inmate labor competing in the private labor market. You’re gonna have to hire staff for your plantation. Private prisons are also contracted by the state or federal government and still must follow laws and guidelines as if they were government facilities. You don’t get free rein because you only have a contractual association and the government retains the authority to incarcerate and all legal liability. Sorry to rain on your parade.

[aldine96]

What if I'm a drug cartel boss with lots of money and I don't give two phat phucks about the law and I abuse the prisoners just as Columbus abused the native tainos of puerto rico?

[Opinion Owner]

You might as well be asking what if I’m Santa Claus? You’re not a cartel boss, so there’s no point in discussing it.

[aldine96]

Your point?

[Opinion Owner]

The point is that there is no point to your post.

[aldine96]

There is

[Opinion Owner]

Not really. You’re talking about being someone you’re not and doing things you could never get away with. You might as well be musing about being Superman and leaping over tall buildings.

[aldine96]

Except being a powerful drug cartel is more plausible than superman, what is your basis knowing I'll never be a drug cartel?

[Opinion Owner]

This whole topic is nothing more than dumbfuckery. I’m out.

[CandyRat]

Private prisons are under much more scrutiny than government prisons. The next time you see Jeffrey Epstein, ask him his opinion.

[Redstang88]

Human rights laws

[aldine96]

What of I'm a powerful drug cartel boss with lots of weapons and men and I don't give a shit about human rights laws?

[Redstang88]

Well the government cares even if you don’t

[aldine96]

So what?

[Redstang88]

1st world countries are gonna out a stop to that sort of thing before you even get started