What are your opinions on the alpha and beta male movement?

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There's partial truth to the things I sometimes hear coming out of these people's mouths but then they twist that truth into something else, there's a lot of women that don't value themselves and seek value, they have high expectations and feel like they deserve the best when they can't compare but am I the only one that notices that they are influencing the youth with shit just making society worse, I'm making this question cause i saw a discussion that some guy was saying that because guys have the natural more open urges to want to have sex that because they are the masculine one they have to have sex with as many women as they can and the women shouldn't care and that men have a pass to cheat, this is the crap younglins are following, it's just sad, I believe even this crap is all part of the woke agenda as well, it's a lot of extra crap that will just make society worse, is being an asshole, hiding insecurities with an aggressive and masculine persona is really what people think masculinity is? It only seems logical to me that if you are following other people's guidance and creating a fake persona which is obviously not being yourself then Its only logical to say that the person that's being a follower and hiding insecurities with a wall of aggression and "toughness" is a beta.

A real born alpha male isn't a follower to other alphas an alpha Is a leader, that makes their own decisions that leads their own example and moves from their own experience and masculinity comes from the natural roles of a man, what makes a man masculine isn't a persona or an act, is abiding the natural role of a man which is being a provider, loving, respecting, supporting and protecting your woman, remaining loyal and being compatible for being the head of a fully functioning household for your family. Without femininity there's no masculinity, that would mean that if someone is being controlling and pushy and putting up this persona trying to show power then they are just betas.

Peter_Penetrator · Accepted Answer

People confuse Alpha males with Assholes/dicks.

A man can be alpha and choose not to be an asshole/dick. An asshole/dick might choose to be an alpha, but he is still an asshole/dick.

Alpha’s are men that can stand up to life’s adversities and not run from them. An alpha is a man that makes responsible decisions. He takes responsibility. Beta’s that wanna be an alpha is when beta’s turn into an asshole/dick.

Alpha male’s don’t feel the need to bully others to look dominant. Alpha male’s have lived through some rough, tough, sometimes life-threatening situations and still managed to come out on top. These experiences built that man’s confidence. Alpha males don’t have to be ripped or spend hours at the gym staying ripped.

An alpha male knows when, and what to fight for, he protects and doesn’t find himself in a precarious situation out of stupidity.

Many women do search out alpha males because they don’t want to be the only adult in the relationship. Women don’t want to be a man’s mommy. An alpha male can be aggressive when the need arises but not with the ones that value him the most. To them, he is nothing more than just a Teddy Bear.

NathanDavis · Accepted Answer

absolute nonsense and mostly bs...

these people just take a few ideas from different and entirely different topics and then try to simplify to the nonsense that is as they present it

and then the claims they make over this "movement" it's just bullshit... lol

even in the actual natural environments in which these "alpha and beta" theories started which, was with primates... they debunked it themselves and explained that it was both, not as accurate as they theorized and never as simple as they sold it, lol

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

What are your opinions on the alpha and beta male movement? It’s true as it happens in every species on earth. Hell.. it even happens in birds.  It would only be realistic to say it happens in humans too.  
 We are still animals. Advanced animals, as we have language and critical thinking. Doesn’t change the fact that we are animals.       In most species only the best male gets to reproduce. The other males are meant to die virgin. And stay virgin.    There’s a reason most women are sharing one man. And rather live like this. Other women take the seeds of alpha male and she marries the beta for economic support. And other women rather not marry or have children whatsoever.

LazerBean · Accepted Answer

Alpha men don't go around advertising that they are alpha, just like nice men don't try to convince everyone that they are nice and humble people don't brag about their humility. They simply are, and everyone knows it without them having to say it. Yes there is a ring of truth to alphas and betas, but not when it's men who are labeling themselves as such are speaking.

MzAsh · Answer

It’s turned into a joke. A way for men to measure their dicks against each other and use the alpha status as an excuse to behave like a degenerate teenager. Look at the alpha male role models. That tells you everything you need to know about their end goal.

mandyfire98 · Answer

I've never met a real masculine man in real life that has ever used the term alpha or beta or sigma.

Only people I've seen do that are guys online who spend too much time looking at YouTube videos and tiktoks of redpill grabage. They're normally the opposite completely of what a real man actually is.

It's the new astrology. Complete horseshit.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Mech has done more damage than Wakefield, and nearly as much as Lysenko. He realizes he was wrong, and has publicly decried his earlier work, but the damage is done. Perhaps the lack of malice makes it even worse.

An alpha is not a leader, but a letter. If you truly must indulge in this nonsense, why not take a less objectionable theory- like phrenology? Or phlogiston; that's about due for a revival. Hell, join that rapper fellow and start a boom in geocentrism again. MORE sexism is the last thing we need.

rigmarole · Answer

Anyone that is part of a social movement is a follower of collectivism. Thus they are not a leader. You can't be alpha if you are a collectivist. There is horizontal collectivism where a bunch of betas that want to be equal (i. e. socialism) and then there is vertical collectivism where people follow a social hierarchy and thus they are betas that are subservient to the dictator or person higher in rank than them (i. e. Globalist Cabal/United Nations). Either way you are following orders of someone else rather than walking your own path.

MiddleAgedClimbee · Answer

If an individual labels themselves, or internalizes a label others give them, how they handle that label determines the validity of the claim.
I'm not a fan of labeling anyone.
Self proclaimed alphas are likely insecure or see themselves as deserving of any praise.
Parents and family members need to step in and up, to provide healthy role models for their children.
I agree with your assessment of the "alpha male" is a fake persona, or wall, around a weak minded individual.

HelpfulWoman · Answer

XD XD i will never not laugh at people using the metaphor, when the creator of said metaphor has said it's disproven and works his arse off to try to heal the damage he's done with it.
I've also never met anyone who uses it as anything else but an attempt to belittle others and push misogynistic and toxic masculinity's values.

Ms_Facesitter · Answer

I never liked these terms "alpha" and "beta". I usually expect and get a clown fiesta when I read a post about it. The best one I've heard was "As an alpha male you must show dominance by fucking another male." Often I read about them describing that man as one who sleeps around a lot and is super muscly. I picture a gorilla beating his chest.

It's sad that so many of them get the spotlight so young men listen to that and get misinformed. So we get more fuckboys instead of good men.

kylee2437 · Answer

Dumb as hell. Anyone that identifys themselves as an alpha , needs mental help. People like adding more polite words to things they know what they do is harmful because usually alpha means controlling. They like being controlling bitter partners

slatyb · Answer

All nonsense. Using those terms is a marker of low status and little education. If "alpha" is a thing, I work in a building full of them -- tech millionaires now or in the future, highly intelligent and competent. None of them think of themselves as "alpha".

KelleyN · Answer

There are few Alphas and many Betas. Alphas are the bad boys that all females want to fuck. Betas are the providers that don't deserve to fuck. And they wouldn't if our society wasn't messed up. Of course the Alphas are going to cheat. That is what they are supposed to do, and the women should cheat with them whenever they are fertile to have prettier babies. It is good for our species.

Google the following: "Scientists have discovered evidence that, during the Stone Age, only one man passed on his DNA for every 17 women." That is what is best for our species. That is how it is with horses, lions, and gorilla's. Since all women cannot marry Alphas, Betas can be good provides but they should not reproduce. Only the Alphas should reproduce. Ideally, all Betas should have vasectomies and when their wives want babies, they should fuck Alphas.

sage2021 · Answer

What about alpha females? Can she still be feminine and be an alpha?

What if she is feminine and just had no one to help her with things through out her life and she was forced to do everything herself and learn herself?

She would have much rather had a man in her life to be her helpmate, but it didn't work out that way.

What if she is feminine but had to be alpha by default?

Anemone978 · Answer

Yes too many morons on the internet.. I hate all this crap and it is bad people are spreading this nonsense.. but what can you do..

bededazzle · Answer

this is for animal societies where only certain males reproduce with many partners. the traits human “alpha” males tout show the same “fitness” that female apes, and other animals. to a degree, we are like other animals, but having language has greatly affected the nature of sexual selection, and also, for many men, devalues banging a lot of women.

Billlewis · Answer

What I think everyone gets wrong about this is that although many of the would be alphas may not necessarily check every box on the list of qualifications to be regarded as such, the betas are, for the most part, more accurate in their category.

Of course, some guys who claim to be alphas are actually betas, but I think there are far fewer of them than widely believed...

Anonymous · Answer

First, we all have a stereotype of the alpha male in mind. These are not the guys I see at senior levels in business or at events for wealthy people. They are the fakes and fraudsters who can talk a great game. Many are waiters, bartenders and other not so smart or successful people. Bill Gates is not your stereotypical alpha male yet his is defiantly a winner and has the DNA for intelligence which is needed for the future to be successful.

But women go for yester-years type of guy but we don’t need them anymore. They also file the majority of the divorces because they pick the wrong guy. Their offspring with these old school alphas will not fair well in the future where intelligence is the new muscle. The women with this as an instinct will slowly die out and nature will have a new set of instincts for females.

Anonymous · Answer

There's no such thing as an alpha male. Men who think they're alpha are either just brutes or misogynists. Alpha males think they have control of their cocks, but all they're really doing is indulging them to keep their urges sated. That's not control. Any man with active hormones can be seduced and manipulated by a smart and sexy woman who knows which buttons to push. Men have always known this and that's why they've suppressed women since time began, and why they fight so hard to make rules and laws in societies that allow them to keep doing it.

Beta males don't pretend they are macho men, they just submit to the rule of a woman and her pussy. They try to find the right balance of servitude, suck-up and support to make sure they can still get some sex out of the deal. Many aren't great looking or muscular, so they don't bother to compete with those guys.

OddBeMe · Answer

Usually these guys have no experience with women and thus thinks this is relevant.

Forceinhand · Answer

It really is pathetic to throw around those terms and apply value to the fact that you yourself or at most some paultry retinue call yourselves "alpha" and others beta. No one who has to talk about being alpha is a real leader. I stay far away from that world of rhetorics.

Anonymous · Answer

I'll be honest--I'm not really clear as to what you're talking about. Alpha and beta are descriptors of types of men--it's not a "movement" in any way--just a description of what is. In order for it to be valid or useful, you need to define what you mean when you say "alpha" or "beta." Different people mean different things, so you need to define what you mean before anyone can meaningfully engage with it.

Peperoni0338 · Answer

We call the a-holes " Alphas "
And we call what you described as the real alphas " independent strong men "

There is a difference. If you are a man who was born to lead and not follow then we call him a " leader " or "independent and strong" dose this make sense?

Joshydavid25 · Answer

Yeah, I can't stand the whole thing about alpha and betas.. When I followed the Red Pill/Manosphere section for a while, I never went into the veered into that section.. And I always hated the "Men are just made to be with as many women as possible".. It's no better than the feminist movement, and in fact they two sides of the same coin..

Anonymous · Answer

Any man who must constantly say "I am King"... is no king. Tywin Lannister. Any dipshit going on about alphas and stuff like that... are simply saying "I know fuck all about anthropology!"

Hungryghostwriter · Answer

From what I've heard it doesn't apply to us because humans are more complex than pack animals. But people love their labels. After alpha and beta became old news, my phone started telling me I'm a sigma. Now my phones telling me I'm something else. Gamma or theta or some other Greek alphabet. But I bet the definition is some cool John wick type of thing

Juxtapose · Answer

The entire concept was made to describe wolves but that was later taken back and debunked by the same guy who proposed the concept.

It was never meant to apply to humans, especially after it was debunked.

getwiththepg · Answer

If there is a good thing that came out of it at least it pushed men to be better than just sitting around eating chips & playing video games all day long

Brittanykeen88 · Answer

It makes me sick to my stomach some of the shit I've heard Andrew Tate said

coachTanthony · Answer

Reminds me to do another poll about Alpha and Beta... get everyone all riled up again lol

Chthou95 · Answer

There's always a hierarchy in gatherings like parties. You have a group of men who are invisible who hang around other men like that and then you have a small group of men who are wanted and surrounded by women. The men who are invisible want to be these men. Just look at parties and pay attention to the behaviour of how people interact. It's a real thing. Humans do behave like animals in social gatherings whether they're aware of it or not

PrettyCrumblBb · Answer

It's a joke. Andrew Tate and all pick up artists are jokes.

Anonymous · Answer

Men have pecking orders it starts in Jr. High and never really leaves us. It just becomes more defined and refined in a boss/employee relationship. I think society created this whole alpha /beta nonsense because this is what the internet does. It makes everything hyperbole. I'm not saying there isn't a nugget of truth in it, there is! But people shouldn't create an entire belief around it. Because there are exceptions to every rule.

Worst · Answer

I don't concern myself with pointless topics like that lol, it's a massive waste of time

bolverk · Answer

There is no "alpha and beta male movement" they are just convenient labels for certain traits that occur in men, that some people use to differentiate what they think are 'leaders' and 'followers'.

wiltingrosepetal · Answer

The most moronic movement imaginable 😀

normalice · Answer

Another redpill attempt to put an iron curtain around young men who compensate for their perceived inadequacies by simping for the far eight.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

I don't pay attention to any of that foolishness.  I have bills to pay.

ManOnFire · Answer

Alphas are fake strong men. Betas unfortunately are very real and a lot of them do exist.

Anonymous · Answer

Like you said, there's partial truth to it, women are going to be more drawn to confident and assertive men. Just take the cringey labels out of it.

Unit1 · Answer

Total bollocks that turned into an unforgettable fad people still cling to. Its not a movement.

genericname85 · Answer

pretty much narcissist language, meant to make narcissists feel better about themself.

trexxx707 · Answer

I think it's all toxic masculinity bullshit and that alpha makes don't actually exist. Most self proclaimed alphas are insecure little weasels

Snakeyes7 · Answer

It's not a movement. It is just a way of saying whether or not a man has the traits necessary to attract women. It is a meme if anything.

SeaStorm1 · Answer

All fake and just part of social media and movie/films.

The-Stud · Answer

Anyone who uses those terms is a beta haha

SotiCoto · Answer

The whole thing is garbage. Human social groups don't work that way. It just seems to be an excuse to justify misogynistic behaviour.

AnusNdaPainus · Answer

I take it as a challenge  because sometimes in life you have to poke your finger out and say nanana booboo im better than you

Joker_ · Answer

no opinions as of yet

LiamJHayden · Answer

I ignore it.

grega239 · Answer

Cringe

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