Gift giving is illogical, right?

[OddBeMe]

When you engage in it you expect something back. Which negates the entire definition of “gift”.

Yes

No

[wiltingrosepetal]

Sometimes people just give others gifts randomly, without ever expecting things back. Gifts aren't always an exchange. I mean- I found jewellery that I'd held onto for no real reason and gave it to my friend. I'm not expecting her to return the favour

[OddBeMe]

That’s a. nice thing. Honestly, it’s the holiday that causes the meaningless. Ironically.

[Smashingdoozy]

I don't expect anything back. I mean maybe a thank you

[OddBeMe]

No, you do. Even if it’s A) envy that you can afford such an expense gift, B) feeling like you made their sad life happy for a moment, or C) for Facebook.

[Smashingdoozy]

Nope. I expect nothing. My love language is gift giving. It makes me happy just getting people something

[OddBeMe]

Fair enough

[Kingofkings1992]

@OddBeMe some people just enjoy doing nice things for others. Get it through your thick skull dumbass

[IslaTheWitch]

Giving means giving, not expecting back. You give things to make people happy.

In Poland is an initiative called "Happy gift". People bring things or money. That way are created Christmas gifts for the poorest families, where it is obvious that nothing will be under the tree.

Believe me, no one expects anything more than a smile on kids faces.

I create a gift for some close to me. I don't expect anything back. I just want this person to know, we are here for them, we listen to their words and we do literally everything to help or just support with whatever they decide.

Giving is magical.

[OddBeMe]

True, and I think holidays are targeted by consumerists. So while good for the economy, the idea is mostly dumb. Perhaps some people do it right, maybe,

[NathanDavis]

no... we gift to the little ones in the family, and there are no expectations for them to spend the money they don't really have

although, they all "earn" some money so they can buy us stuff back...

and the idea is just to be happy and have fun... lol

[OddBeMe]

Children are exceptions as they are…well stupid.

Jk, they think Santa is real tho.

[FreyaRed]

Psychomechanics behind giving gifts and expecting something in return is relatively complicated and not always obvious on first look. However, nothing on this world is for free. Even a gift given from the heart is at the end just an attempt to obtain sympathy of the person who receives the gift.

[ShellyBo]

It's the thought that counts, so I just think about giving gifts. I'm thinking about giving you a sports car.

[OddBeMe]

Boom. Done. Lol

[Anonymous]

When I give gifts I just give and I don’t expect anything. Why? Because I was raised to see myself as someone worthless of receiving gifts. So I just give, see their smiles, get a thank you, and go about my day

[OddBeMe]

Woah, sounds like someone should gift card you some therapy. #raisedbyboomers

[Opinion Owner]

I’m good

[OddBeMe]

Fair enough

[ColHathi]

Only during things like Christmas and birthdays would I agree with you, and I actually hate that. I wish we could just celebrate without the gifts. Maybe the kids could still get gifts, but that's it.

I'd rather only give gifts when I feel like it, without expectations.

[BourbonAndBacon]

We stopped exchanging gifts when everyone started giving gift cards. What's the point of giving a $100 gift card and then getting a $100 gift card back?

[OddBeMe]

I mean…yeah.

[Sevenpointfive]

i've never expected one until Christmas or valentines.

capitalism is illogical, right?

[OddBeMe]

No. Unchecked capitalism is illogical. Marx as philosophy is logical, but so is Burke. Either as unfettered governments or economies would be hugely illogical.

[Sevenpointfive]

we used to have laws to check big corporations and then those corporations started paying the government to get rid of these laws that made them monopolies. so how do you check capitalism exactly?

[OddBeMe]

By not letting corporations do that. I’ve been saying that and voting that way. But half the country thinks the government is full of pedos and lizard aliens.

[OddBeMe]

Evidence for any of that? Have we even had a Jew president? Ukraine beat us to that one… lol

[Sevenpointfive]

everyone is at least 1% jew. according to science

[OddBeMe]

So why the hate?

[Sevenpointfive]

again. i don't hate jews. i hate what they do

[Fireguy17]

I don't expect anything in return, except maybe a thank you, so it is a gift.

[OddBeMe]

Freud would say different, Herr Fireguy….

[Fireguy17]

He is dead, I am not, and he wasn't always correct either.

[andreasderjuengere]

I actually DON'T expect something.

[OddBeMe]

Bullshit.

[andreasderjuengere]

Not even that :D
What I indeed expect to get is what I'd get even without me giving a gift...
And what I get isn't meant to be a gift.

[OddBeMe]

I was joshing ya. But I think the majority does expect better gifts when they buy better gifts for you which is madness! Lol :)

[andreasderjuengere]

I've seen you around often enough to know that you aren't a jerk :)
But sadly you are kind of right: giving presents or just being nice with someone meanwhile often is a matter of ''cost-profit'' considerations.
The cats have become too fat to appreciate a single fish that's shared (and perhaps a loaf of bread added...)
Merry Christmas.

[OddBeMe]

The tradition is marred. Some people here are quite thoughtful in it. I will allow it to continue. Lol

[Nikki1989]

Yes, it is a vicious circle.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I love giving gifts.

[Anonymous]

I don't expect anything in return

[Dargil]

Why is that?