Are women even aware of how much Men have suffered in wars? How much agony have they gone through?

[ManyFantasiGuy]

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I know that civilians- old, kids and women have too but it's like men have gotten beating from all sides- male civilians, laborers, workers, officials. Like from everywhere.

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And it's not just about previous wars,
Even in modern "feminist" era. Women are allowed to leave the country while adult males are ordered to stay back.

[normalice]

No more or less than men in their community are aware. It is a mistake to claim the suffering of others for your own just because you have a gender in common with them. It's like the men who are not at all firemen trying to get sympathy because some other men are firemen out there risking themselves. Meanwhile, those actual firemen have their shirtless picture in calenders on the walls of teenage girls across the country and are not complaining. Just the men who will never be a fireman are complaining that men are firemen. Super weird..

[ManyFantasiGuy]

so you say that we should be just selfish? Not acknowledge others efforts and sacrifice just because we weren't in their boots?
So that way if any section of the society is oppressed but aren't raising their voice, does that mean you don't come out to help them?
And yea for your information, Firemen also do protest many times.

[normalice]

I said what I said and meant the words I chose. Trying to append them with interpretations favorable to what you would have liked me to say isn't something im interested in engaging in. I'll just say "no that isn't what I'm saying." If you are confused go back and re-read it to see if you can spot the difference.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

"It is a mistake to claim the suffering of others for your own just because you have a gender in common with them."
"It's like the men who are not at all firemen trying to get sympathy because some other men are firemen out there risking themselves."

[normalice]

Exactly. The word "selfish" isn't even mentioned. But you saw it anyway because you just came here to smear victimhood all over your face to disguise how worthless you are, like all the other ragetards 🤷

[ManyFantasiGuy]

okay which tone does your answer represent? huh
Big words small trash
Sounds like you are the retard here as not just mentioning a word doesn't mean you weren't implying it. shitshot 🤮

[normalice]

I dont know which artificial box from your rage junkie bubble my observations fit into. Probably none since everything in your bubble is fake, anyway 🤷

[ManOnFire]

To be totally honest, I think the rapes that innocent women in war have had to go through are a lot worse than men dying in combat. To me it is utterly senseless and cruel that a man in wartime would rape and torture some random woman from the enemy's side. And if she survived that she had to live with the trauma and damage in her life.

However, women often brag that they are powerful and influence men, so we can blame them for all the wars, deaths, and destruction in our world's history.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

In any way, we can't ignore or forget the brutalities like this happened.
But if you would be given an option of either getting r@ped and survive or go on the lines and die and leave behind your family, which will you choose?( no crime such as this is little though).
And again, it was a question for men, rather than answering that some people like you just try to pin in victimization of women everywhere, like it somehow could overshadow the efforts of men.

[ManOnFire]

I'm not saying that what men go through in war is easy or painless, I'm just saying I think what the women go through is worse. But even both sides can be slimy in war: a soldier rapes a woman, but plenty of women also dumped their men for another guy while he was off in battle.

Would I choose to die in combat over being raped and tortured and having to live with it? I absolutely would.

[Joshydavid25]

Getting brutally assaulted in war by enemy is definitely greater pain, the number of women that it happened probably pales in comparison to the number of men killed, or limbs blown off, or kept as prisoners of war, and tortured themselves..

[ManOnFire]

@Joshydavid25 I don't know, rape leaves terrible damage and trauma on a culture through the woman. What happens to men in war is not easy either but I just think it's worse for women. On top of rape, many women are left in poverty from war, especially if no husband ever comes home.

[Joshydavid25]

Oh no I was agreeing that it is worse or can be worse for those women who get caught up in it. I was saying that probably paled in comparison to the number of men or even boys who are killed, or tortured, or kept as prisoners of war and some even raped like women..

[ManOnFire]

@Joshydavid25 Oh, gotcha.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

@Joshydavid25 you may be agreeing with him, but you made a point that "sided" with men too.
And regarding the trauma part. Men leave with trauma, PTSD, nightmares.

[ManOnFire]

@ManyFantasiGuy That’s true, but the women also live with trauma, PTSD, nightmares, damage to the vagina, and sometimes even a complete inability to ever have sex again.

[Joshydavid25]

@ManyFantasiGuy True..

[FreyaRed]

Combat related deaths significant for your assumption were much smaller. In genocides are women generally targeted even more than men and majority of WW2 deaths are non-combatant deaths.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

where are the source of your stats, "majority of WW2 deaths are non-combatant deaths" lol, get your facts checked.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I know, that is why I hate wars.

[RebelinSteel]

Yeah they have funny old thing. Do you know who Violette Szabó or Odette Hallowes or Noor Inayat Khan are? Do you know who VADs were? I don’t know about other countries but about 600,000 women served in WW1 and around 1000 died. Anyhow, which branch, arm of the military are you in and how long you served?

[RebelinSteel]

WW2 was 600,000 and WW1 80,000

[RebelinSteel]

@ManyFantasiGuy you still have not answered what service are you currently in, and what role?

[ManyFantasiGuy]

why the fuck would I even be telling you in which service I served IF at all I served.
Also do give source for your numbers.

[RebelinSteel]

Imperial War Museum.
So you ain’t served or are serving, but you happily slag off others, lmao you don’t deserve to be in same company of a single person that served.

[wiltingrosepetal]

How much MEN have suffered? Every person suffers in war, dude 😭 just because women haven't been conscripted doesn't mean we don't have a hand in battle

[ManyFantasiGuy]

conscription is just far worse in my opinion,
and it even still exists today.

[whereismyjohnny]

Wars inflict suffering on everyone involved, regardless of gender.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

True, but is the suffering equal among all groups regarding the gender.
I mean even in today's feminist era and the uk-ru war the Ukrainian government only ordered adult men to stay back and allowed all the females to leave the country.

[exitseven]

Both my parents were WW2 vets. I am sure my mother knew what went on.

[purplepoppy]

Then perhaps men shouldn't start them.

[ManyFantasiGuy]

so if a female politicians in the future ever start a war, would men be allowed to leave the danger and women will leave to fight in the wars?

[purplepoppy]

Funny how throughout history, the first solution to a problem men have it to have a war. Don't like their religion, have a war. Insulted your honour, have a war. Want to impress daddy, have a war.

[Joshydavid25]

Queens started wars too, in fact Queens are 27% more likely to have started wars than kings..
qz.com/.../throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men

[dean53AU]

Plenty of women have too

[Radiate143]

Yes, why do you ask?

[KostasKouvalis]

What's the point you're trying to make?

[KrakenAttackin]

No, and they don't care.