What would you count as "forcing your lifestyle on kids"?

[Anonymous]

Being in the presence of a kid is forcing your lifestyle on them.

Not A, but not keeping your lifestyle secret from kids is forcing it on them.

Not A or B, but practicing (any part of) your lifestyle in the presence of a kid is forcing it on them.

Not A, B, or C, but telling a kid that your lifestyle is good is forcing it on them.

Not A, B, C, or D, but allowing or enabling a kid to practice (any part of) your lifestyle is forcing it on them.

Not A, B, C, D, or E, but telling a kid that all other lifestyles are bad or worse than yours is forcing yours on them.

Not A, B, C, D, E, or F, but not allowing a kid to practice any other lifestyle but yours is forcing yours on them.

[gorydetails]

What lifestyle?

[Asker]

I don't care, you can pick one.

[gorydetails]

Parents raise their children with their values. That’s not “forcing a lifestyle” on them.

[Asker]

So nothing is forcing a lifestyle if it's the parents doing it. Okay. What about people other than the parents, like people who work with kids, or just anyone sharing public spaces like stores or theaters?

[gorydetails]

Are they the parents? Do the parents know what is going on?

[Asker]

I just said they're not the parents, and the parents would know what's going on the same as they normally would. Don't good parents normally know what's going on with their kids?

[gorydetails]

It depends. The state requires you to turn your children over to them for 180 days a year, 7 hours a day.

[Asker]

Okay. What would the difference be if the parent knew about it or not? I'm not asking if forcing a lifestyle is morally good or bad, I'm just asking what counts as "forcing" it. Personally I think parents are the people who force their lifestyle on their kids the most, but I know that most of the poll options, especially when done by parents, are harmless or even good for kids.

[gorydetails]

Again, parents don't "force a lifestyle" on children. They teach children their values. There is a massive difference.

[Asker]

Okay perfect tell me that: the difference. What is the line where teaching the kid your values ends and forcing your lifestyle on them begins? That's all I'm asking I really don't care who is doing it or what lifestyle it is. I just want to know what people think counts as "forcing" it.

[gorydetails]

If it goes against the values of the family or culture, that's when people would use the term "forcing".

[Asker]

But that has nothing to do with force, or kids. You mean if someone practiced a lifestyle that went against a family or culture, then that person would be forcing that lifestyle on kids? Even if they never even are in the presence of any kids? I don't think that's right, it doesn't make sense.

[gorydetails]

Of course, it does. Sex is a penis going into a vagina. Rape is a penis forcibly going into a vagina. Walking into your friend's house isn't force. Going in somewhere that you're not wanted requires force.

[Asker]

But you can't force your own lifestyle on yourself, even if you live in a culture that's against it. So there has to be some distinction between the culture as a whole and the individuals inside it. Otherwise even practicing your lifestyle in secret in the privacy of your own home, you are forcing it on everybody in your whole family and culture. That's impossible since they wouldn't even know you're doing it and they won't be impacted by it at all.

[gorydetails]

Lol, ok. Clearly you’re being obtuse act like a pseudo intellectual. I guess that’s what happens when you take a philosophy 101 class.

[Asker]

I would take a philosophy class if they actually try to explain something there. I'm not talking about cultures, I'm talking about people. One person, and one kid. The person can force their lifestyle on the kid, or not force it on the kid, no matter what culture either of them is from. So your "answer" doesn't make sense. It doesn't apply to people, only to communities. I have been clearly asking about individuals.

[gorydetails]

Lol, whatever dude.