Did you know that international women’s day was started by communists?

[SolitarySolace]

History of International Women's Day - origins.osu.edu/.../international-womens-day

Yes, I knew that and I support communism

Yes, I knew that and I don’t support communism

No, I didn’t know that and I support communism

No, I didn’t know that and I don’t support communism

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“In 1922, Lenin established International Women’s Day as a communist holiday in the new Soviet Union. The same year, Chinese communists began to celebrate it, and after the founding of the People’s Republic of China in 1949, it was proclaimed an official holiday. Spanish communists used March 8, 1936 as the occasion to stage a huge demonstration in Madrid, demanding protection of the Spanish Republic against the growing fascist threat.

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As women in the United States and across much of Europe gained suffrage in the wake of the First World War, much of the momentum for International Women’s Day celebrations waned. During the interwar years, some European socialists and social democrats continued to mark “Women’s Day,” carefully omitting the term “international” to distinguish it from its communist sister celebration.” - origins.osu.edu/.../international-womens-day

[RebelinSteel]

It was started by socialists not communists. It was started and happened in countries before the Russian revolution.

https://www.internationalwomensday.com/Activity/15586/The-history-of-IWD

To quote

In 1910 a second International Conference of Working Women was held in Copenhagen. A woman named Clara Zetkin (Leader of the 'Women's Office' for the Social Democratic Party in Germany) tabled the idea of an International Women's Day. She proposed that every year in every country there should be a celebration on the same day - a Women's Day - to press for their demands. The conference of over 100 women from 17 countries, representing unions, socialist parties, working women's clubs - and including the first three women elected to the Finnish parliament - greeted Zetkin's suggestion with unanimous approval and thus International Women's Day was the result.

notice no mention of communism, what is it with Americans not understanding the difference between communism and other left of centre movements. Also there was a lot of support from the more affluent women right of centre.

[SolitarySolace]

Communism/socialism are synonymous. They’re associated with each other.

[RebelinSteel]

No they are not and also the German party was not communist.
American politics is all right of centre this gives you a completely weird view compared to the rest of the world.
For example the Labour Party are a socialist party but they are centre and centre left. The far left of labour are Greens and communists

[RebelinSteel]

This stuff is basic junior school education stuff
www.policyforum.labour.org.uk/about/policy-process
Labour are a democratic socialist party,
Don’t go off the name of a party to work out what it stands for.
The Two main US parties are right of centre.

[SolitarySolace]

Than why were all of the communist countries adopting and celebrating international women’s day if it weren’t a communist holiday? Why were the communists adopting and celebrating it if communism weren’t synonymous with socialism?

[RebelinSteel]

Okay name the communists countries around the world in 1910 when it was decided to make this a global day.
List off every communist country in 1910
Off you go.

[SolitarySolace]

In 1922, Lenin established International Women’s Day as a communist holiday in the new Soviet Union. The same year, Chinese communists began to celebrate it, and after the founding of the People’s Republic of China in 1949, it was proclaimed an official holiday. Spanish communists used March 8, 1936 as the occasion to stage a huge demonstration in Madrid, demanding protection of the Spanish Republic against the growing fascist threat.

[SolitarySolace]

It did not start in 1910 it started in 1922 you were told wrong

[RebelinSteel]

1910 list the countries that is when it started, you said it was all the communist countries,
So get on and list them all in 1910.
It was adopted because the day already existed,
I am still waiting for these 1910 communist countries
This is when international women’s day was started and agreed as a global day,

Get typing 1910 communist countries,

[SolitarySolace]

Regardless the point is that people who are anti socialist and/or anti communist may have unknowingly celebrated a socialist or communist day.

[RebelinSteel]

Lmao I was told wrong by the various links below including the actual society

www.internationalwomensday.com/.../The-history-of-IWD

We get taught this shit in school, it is very very basic politics

But I will let you off you are an American, we need to make allowances.

[SolitarySolace]

Where are you from? @RebelinSteel

[RebelinSteel]

@SolitarySolace look you come from a country that until recently made black people sit at the back of the bus, have separate everything. Your political parties are right of centre. Do not try doing stuff outside of the US, you always fail. As I said we make exceptions for you because you are an American.

[SolitarySolace]

🤣 I doubt you know any American history. Which political party freed the slaves? I’ll give you a hint because it seems to me you don’t know, it starts with an R

[RebelinSteel]

Let’s face it American history is not really a large book to read. I do not care about your parties, no one really does. Freeing and then making it clear there were not equal, yes that freedom…
Anyhow, ta ta, as I said we make allowances for you.

[Dongie]

Bring forth the judgement upon us poor ignorant Americans ye of noble heritage. For we are but mutts in a pure herd world.

[marriecarlson]

they’re not?

[marriecarlson]

they’re not synonymous *

[Dongie]

No I didn't but considering the underlying ideology of controlling the masses it figures.

[marriecarlson]

huh?

[Dongie]

@marriecarlson
it goes deep

[LazerBean]

Nope, I've never cared enough about women's day to read anything about it.

[tremendousfern]

I don't find it surprising, but I also don't have a problem with a day celebrating women. I think it would be better to appropriate the day from communists and feminists and instead make it a day for celebrating a healthy and positive view of femininity.

[SolitarySolace]

There’s such a thing as healthy femininity? 🤣 I thought it was all toxic

[tremendousfern]

Of course there is. Women are pretty great. That's why I'm so critical of destructive ideologies like feminism.

[SolitarySolace]

My experience with women has all been shit. At least only with those of my age range.

[sawno]

Who else? The only people who care about this sort of thing support intersectionality.

[SolitarySolace]

People are probably celebrating it without knowing it was started by communist socialists and they might be anti communist anti socialist

[sawno]

They usually support intersectionality themselves.

[SolitarySolace]

If that is true than they are woke and regressing the country into ruin just to rebuild it in their own image.

[sawno]

Basically yes

[marriecarlson]

oh god here we go with the conservative trumpie who didn’t finish school 💀 dude if you don’t get yo propaganda outta here

[sawno]

@marriecarlson I did finish school, sorry that my brain is immune to staying indoctrinated for very long.

[sawno]

@marriecarlson But go on, you consider yourself more educated than me. Where am I wrong?

[marriecarlson]

what is this post supposed to imply? 💀

[msc545]

What difference does it make?

[laly520]

false

socialists started it

[SolitarySolace]

The outbreak of the First World War in 1914 halted much of the international collaboration that had underpinned International Women’s Day, and sowed deep divisions among socialist women. Some supported nationalist sentiments while others protested the war and called for working-class unity across national divides. Eventually many of these women, including Clara Zetkin, would abandon socialist parties who rallied around the war effort and instead embrace Communist parties and organizations.

[laly520]

yes still not communists started that day

[SolitarySolace]

Regardless people who are anti socialist who didn’t know before hopefully won’t be celebrating it next year knowing this

[laly520]

yk people nowadays aren't aware of lot of historical facts n won't care to learn about it
for em its a day that indicates this or that whatever it was

[SolitarySolace]

Not sure what that has to do with my point here

[laly520]

u were saying how those who r anti socialist would stop celebrating it n I said people nowadays aren't aware of the historical background aka dont even know about it being a socialist thing or not

[SolitarySolace]

Well those who see this poll and check out the article I liked and read the comments here will know and I’m sure they’d bring it up to their friends who will tell their friends and so on and so fourth. Eventually only communists and socialists will celebrate such a ridiculous thing and they’re not the majority